Analysis on recent Talat Hussain show with Imran Khan (please read and comment)

[EniGma90]

Re: Imran Khan Vs Talat Hussain (please read and comment)

that point number 4 that you said is the most worrying one for me.
Now that we have reports that innocent people are getting killed as well in these drones....its a violation of human rights, our integrity etc,....so we should do nothing cus we don't want US to attack other cities, other people in our country.
How mean...how cruel....and let me asure That is precisely the reason why they come and do sueside attackts on you....cus qabailis think you think of them less then humans....
why is a qabaili not as important to you as a Lahori or a karachitti?
How shameful.

Lastly I agree siasat mein koi hurfe akhir nahi hota...of course....I think khan's strategy should be given a chance...
Give qabailis a chance....and by the way why exactly are we fightling US war?
If it fails yes then there should be a change in strategy....

You are taking it completely wrong, U presented a justification for suicidal attacks, fine.

There were 2 suicide attack in karachi's mosques in 2004 before the first drone hit the Waziristan, I lost my blood relatives and friends in those incident?? what would u make up of it??

Malala yousafzai had to any thing with dornes???

I gave a link of dawn news, where our 4 star general has termed drones as "Helpful" for Pak army, should I believe u or him?? leave shias aside, tell me what the ppl of data darbaar had to do with drones?? why these drones never hit karachi, islamabad or any other area??

Ur argument is completely wrong, Amount of innocent people killed in drone can be no more than shia killed in pakistan in the same tenure. My uncle died in a blast in mosque 7 year ago, he has 2 sons should they start killing innocent deobandis/wahabi because some one of their sect killed his father

2 months back, my friend in quetta got beheading by Lej, should his family also start doing the same???

If we start believing in ur argument then it means that there will be no more pakistan but a large area of jungle there..

If Pak army thinks that drone are good for them, and mass murderers like Baitulla, illyas kashmiri etc are getting beating then we have no choice but to believe in army,

I, u media anyone never went there, only pak army has boots on ground, so i have to believe in Army rather than listening a propganda by bro takfeeris group.

Every human blood is equal, whether karachiite, lahori, multani, qabaili, sunni, wahabhi shia or anybody...

Why i said that this is not war tuning issue for other pakis because i used to watch tv progs some times, where anchors usually asking ppl about their major problems, never heard of anyone from lahor, multan, karachi or islamabad that drone is our issue

same goes to tribal areas, if u ask a person about his biggest problem in waziristan, he would say drones. he wont say that target killing in karachi is my biggest issue or robbery and kidnapping in lahor is my biggest problem.

But when we will go to a war, it will be a all scale war.

I would suggest talal and other prominent anchors to do a road show in lahore, karachi, islamabad, multan, quetta and faisalabad. ask ppl about their top 3 major problems. u wont find drone even in top 5, i can bet

 

[Raaz]

Re: Imran Khan Vs Talat Hussain (please read and comment)

اچھے صحافی کی یہی نشانی ہوتی ہے کے وہ اگلے بندے سے وہ بات باہر نکلواے جو وہ چاہتا ہے مگر بتا نہیں پا تا . دوسری بات یہ ہے اگر صحافی نے اتنے آسان سوال ہی پوچھنے ہوں تو آپ کو بلانے کی کیا ضرورت وہ جواب بھی خود سے لکھ دے. آپ لوگ پتا نہیں کس بات سے اتنا گھبراتے ہو . اگر کسی صحافی نے خان صاحب کو اپنے پروگرام میں بلایا ہے تو سوال بھی اسنے اپنی مرضی کے ہی پوچھنے ہیں نہ که خان صاحب کی مرضی کے . خان صاحب کو اسلیے بلایا جاتا ہے تا کہ انکا موقف سامنے لایاجاۓ. تو صحافی اپنی مرضی کے سوال ہی پوچھے گا کیوں کے وہ جانتا ہے که وہ آپ کو کیا پوچھناچاہ رہا ہے اور اسکو جب تک وہ مطلوبہ جواب نہیں ملے گا وہ آپ کو ایسے ہی سوال پوچھے گا .

واہ جی واہ
امن مارچ پر جنگ ہی کی سوال کرے گا ، یہی اس کی اچھائی ہے
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[anyie1]

Re: Imran Khan Vs Talat Hussain (please read and comment)

How would you ensure that no terrorism will take place from Pakistan? There are major fallacies in Imran's policy:

1- Once you give the administration of tribal areas back to tribes what makes you sure that they will retain terrorists? what if they fail?
2- What about groups like Haqqani? What is PTI stand on these groups?


3- What happened in Swat? What makes Imran sure that same won't happen in Tribal areas?
4- In all this Army plays the most important role and no one knows for sure what is their plan (e.g. They might want to hold onto Taliban assets for using them when Taliban become a ruling power in Afghanistan, actually that is The opinion at the moment) In Imran's discourse army does not figure prominently which shallows the whole argument.
5- There is ample proof that Pakistan Army wants to continue the use of drones, many statements are on record. Why doesn't Imran question the Army policy of strategic depth? (the lame mantra of elected govt is responsible does not cut it)

Imran says Swat is settled area and can't be compared to Tribal areas on the next breath says that Tribal areas should be developed into properly settled areas! He is also shockingly unaware of the fact that TTP through Dir accessed Swat and it is the main reason for continued Military presence. Secondly who cares if Angelina Jolie appears in a rally, really is this something to boost by a Pakistani leader? It shows the depth of Imran's strategic vision.

Talat was spot on and actually very forgiving since Imran could not save face in even a single argument be it Romney, Swat or strategy on how to stop drones.

بھی صاحب ،،،، آپ اپنے کوممنٹس اپنے پاس ہی رکھیں تو زیادہ بہتر ہو گا.. پیسے لے کر لکھنے والوں کے پاس لوجیک نہیں ہوتا

 

[EniGma90]

Re: Imran Khan Vs Talat Hussain (please read and comment)

بھی صاحب ،،،، آپ اپنے کوممنٹس اپنے پاس ہی رکھیں تو زیادہ بہتر ہو گا.. پیسے لے کر لکھنے والوں کے پاس لوجیک نہیں ہوتا

Talat bhi paisy lainy laga kia??? (serious) Mery khayal se Imran khan sahab ka interview letay hue counter question allow hi nahi karna chayee, buss Sawal pucho, jawab suno or agey bharo...:)

 

[InsafianPTI]

Re: Imran Khan Vs Talat Hussain (please read and comment)

we went in war with US in 2001 not 2004
IK is not only talking about drones...he talks about whole war on terror...we need to get out of it..

its clear that qabailis are against US and their war on terror....

I would not sit here justify any of their attacks....I can never do that....but same goes for US..
and same goes for secterian violence which was here for over 20 years...not new..

I think common qabalis don't do such things but those who join militants they do...and they are doing it for different reasons....

OUR damn army should deal with it themselves.....why don't they?

Why our army is sending mixed signals about WOT and drone use?
THey have big big questions to answer.
If US has to do it then why on earth we are spending 50% of our GDP on this useless army?
To hell with these stupid generals if they were right then they bloody should come out and tell the nation.

I Don't want to believe these coward generals even if they are right!
They are responsible to push us in this mad mess to start with...

and sorry for your loss!

You are taking it completely wrong, U presented a justification for suicidal attacks, fine.

There were 2 suicide attack in karachi's mosques in 2004 before the first drone hit the Waziristan, I lost my blood relatives and friends in those incident?? what would u make up of it??

Malala yousafzai had to any thing with dornes???

I gave a link of dawn news, where our 4 star general has termed as "Helpful" for Pak army, should I believe u or him?? leave shias aside, tell me what the ppl of data darbaar had to do with drones?? why these drones never hit karachi, islamabad or any other area??

Ur argument is completely wrong, Amount of innocent people killed in drone can be no more than shia killed in pakistan in the same tenure. My uncle died in a blast in mosque 7 year ago, he has 2 sons should they start killing innocent deobandis/wahabi because some one of their sect killed his father

2 months back, my friend in quetta got beheading by Lej, should family also start doing the same???

If we start believing in ur argument then it means that there will be no more pakistan a large area of jungle there..

If Pak army thinks that drone are good for them, andmass murderers like Baitulla, illyas kashmiri etc are getting beating then we have no choice but to believe in army,

I, u media anyone never went there, only pak army has boots on ground, so i have to believe in Army rather than listening a propganda by bro takfeeris group

 

[InsafianPTI]

Re: Imran Khan Vs Talat Hussain (please read and comment)

oye shahzadey!
IK ki policy flawed he sahi.....where is your geedar leader's POlicy???

in raiwands basement???

uss ko bolo kabhi humein bhi bataoo???

IK has given his complete course of action..........the way he wan ts to deal with it......with many ways to go on about it...
and we all know that he will sincerely work on them....to find the best way out....will try his best to be fair to all stake holders...
you go and worry about your Geedar!
who is afraid to come out!

How would you ensure that no terrorism will take place from Pakistan? There are major fallacies in Imran's policy:

1- Once you give the administration of tribal areas back to tribes what makes you sure that they will retain terrorists? what if they fail?
2- What about groups like Haqqani? What is PTI stand on these groups?
3- What happened in Swat? What makes Imran sure that same won't happen in Tribal areas?
4- In all this Army plays the most important role and no one knows for sure what is their plan (e.g. They might want to hold onto Taliban assets for using them when Taliban become a ruling power in Afghanistan, actually that is The opinion at the moment) In Imran's discourse army does not figure prominently which shallows the whole argument.
5- There is ample proof that Pakistan Army wants to continue the use of drones, many statements are on record. Why doesn't Imran question the Army policy of strategic depth? (the lame mantra of elected govt is responsible does not cut it)

Imran says Swat is settled area and can't be compared to Tribal areas on the next breath says that Tribal areas should be developed into properly settled areas! He is also shockingly unaware of the fact that TTP through Dir accessed Swat and it is the main reason for continued Military presence. Secondly who cares if Angelina Jolie appears in a rally, really is this something to boost by a Pakistani leader? It shows the depth of Imran's strategic vision.

Talat was spot on and actually very forgiving since Imran could not save face in even a single argument be it Romney, Swat or strategy on how to stop drones.

 

[Killthecorrupts]

Re: Imran Khan Vs Talat Hussain (please read and comment)

These Question were asked and will be asked from Imran Khan.
Please try to understand these anchors are doing all this for ratings.

 

[k.a.kiani]

Re: Imran Khan Vs Talat Hussain (please read and comment)

2 much flaws there,

1) Talat didn't say kay Taliban n.waziristan se Americi salmiat per hamla karte hayn, He talked about Haqaani network which is definitely fighting against Nato forces in Afg and are operated from cross-borders.

2) Drone hamlay Yaqeenan Pakistan ki khuddaari or saalmiat per hamla hayn, Mager Humare core commander of Peshawer or former Isi chief ka bayan record per mojood hay hay kay Drone pakistani affuaj kay liye bays-e-sahulaat hayn.
"General Officer Commanding 7-Division Maj-Gen Ghayur Mehmood said in a briefing here: “Myths and rumours about US predator strikes and the casualty figures are many, but it’s a reality that many of those being killed in these strikes are hardcore elements, a sizeable number of them foreigners.“Yes there are a few civilian casualties in such precision strikes, but a majority of those eliminated are terrorists, including foreign terrorist elements.”http://dawn.com/2011/03/09/most-of-those-killed-in-drone-attacks-were-terrorists-military/

3) kia aap samjhtey hayn kay Bait-ullah-mehsud, Naik mohd, ilyaas kashmiri,Abu Yahya al-Libi or chand naami garami Har*mkhoron ki drone humlo mein halakat kay baad china or russia is issue per aapkey sath kharey hongey.

4) Kia aap ye smjhtey hayn kay drone hamlo ki waja se karachi, lahore, islamabad, multan or in jaisy sekron cities ko or in me basne wali croron awam ko teh taigh kardiya jayega??? jabkay Imran khan sahab nay hum awam ko eik roshan or tabnaak pakistan ka khuwab dihkaya hay, na kay nuclear effected state. Ap to UK mein bethy hayn kia jang ki soorat mein aap yahan koi "jihadi" karwai krengy ya Pakistan jaker larengy americion se??? UK bhi nato ka hissa hay

5) Mulk or riyasat jazbaat se nahi paisy, wasail or law and order se chalai jaati hayn.. kia aap ye smjhtey hayn kay hyderabad, karachi, islamabd, multan, lahore waghera mein rheny waley shehrion ka sabse bara masla drone hay?? ya phir Loadshedding, mehngai, agwa barae tawan, chori dakait or joblessness waghera??

6) Jitni beghunnah shahdatein abtak drone mein huin hayn, itni karachi mein 3-4 mahiney mqm, anp or aman kameti apas mein logo ko maarchuki hy..

7) ager army ko isse koi problem nahi hy or army ny iski ijazat di hui hay to yaqeenan wo hamse behtr jaantey hayn, hum sirf media per suntay hayn itnay aadmi halak.

8) pichlay saal pheli may ko 4 helicopter afghanistan se ur kar hamarey radars ko jaam kartey hue islamabad se chand km door usama ko uthaker legaye, or army airforce ko pata tak na chala, phir bhi aap samjhtey hayn kay drone kay issue per america or 22 mulkon se jang lari jaskegi??

9) Mera khayal hay talat ny tamam baatein 100% durust kahin hayn, Khan sahab yaqeenan apni policy change kreingy, siasat mein koi cheez hurf-akhir nahi hoti. tarbyat or seekhne ka amal humesha jari rehta hay

میرے بھایی اب آپ ٹھنڈے پانی کا گلاس پیجیے گا اور ٹھنڈے دل سے اپنے ان تمام نقاط کر جواب پڑھیے گا۔


١) میں نے دہشت گرد کہا تھا نہ تحریک طالبان کا نام لیا تھا اور نہ ہی حقانی گروپ کا۔ میں نقطہ یہ تھا کہ جب طلعت نے کہا کہ یو این کی سلامتی کونسل یہ کہے گی کہ آپکی سرزمین سے دہشت گردی ہوتی ہے اسلیے ڈرون جایز ہیں تو پاکستان اسکا یہ جواب دے گا اسمیں مین نے غلط کیا کہا۔


٢) یا تو ڈرون حملے پاکستان کی سالمیت پر حملے ہو سکتے ہیں یا پھر ہماری فوج کے لیے سہولت۔ آپ پہلے یہ فیصلہ کریں کہ ڈرون حملے کہاں ہے۔ اگر پشاور کا کور کمانڈر بھی یہی سمجھتا ہے کہ ڈرون حملے ملک کی سالمیت پر حملہ ہیں لیکن وہ اسکو اسلیے نہیں گراییں گے کیونکہ وہ انکو سہولت دیتے ہیں تو پھر انکا غداری کے جرم میں کورٹ مارشل کرنا چاہیے کہ وہ ایسی چیز سے سہولت لے رہے جو ملک کی سالمیت پر حملہ ہیں۔ انکی ملک کی سالمیت کی حفاظت کے لیے برتی کیا گیا ہے نا کہ ملک کی سالمیت کے لیے خطرے والی چیزوں سے سہولت لینے کے لیے۔


٣)بیت اللہ محسود، نیک محمد اور الیا س کشمیری سے روس کو کویی خطرہ نہیں اور باقی رہی بات امریکی سالمیت کی تو امریکہ نے بڑی پرواہ کی تھی جب طالبان کی وہ مدد کررہا تھا روس کے خلاف۔ دوست یہ مفاد کی جنگ ہوتی ہے ۔ روس اور چین کے اس خطے میں مفاد ہیں سو اگر پاکستان اپنی ڈپلومیٹک سٹریٹیجی اور خارجہ پالیسی کو بہتر بناے تو وہ ان دونوں بڑے ملکوں کو اپنے پواینٹ پر قایل کرسکتاہے لیکن ایسا ایسی حکومت ہی کر سکتی ہے جو آزاد اور خود مختار الیکشن کے ذریعے حکومت میں آے نہ کہ امریکی کندھوں پر چڑھ کر این آر او کا سہارا لیکر آے اور ہر بات میں امریکہ کی ڈکٹیشن لے۔


٤) میرے بھایی پاکستان صرف لاہور، اسلام آباد، کراچی اور ملتان ہی نہیں بلکہ ٧ لاکھ ٩٦ ہزار مربع کلومیٹر پر پھیلا ایک وسیع خطہ ہے۔ اسکے کسی خطے پر حملہ پورا پاکستان کی سالمیت پر حملہ ہے سو اگر آج قبایلی علاقوں پر ڈرون کے حملے کراچی لاہور اور اسلام آباد والوں کے لیے مسلہ نہیں تو کل لاہور ، کراچی اور ملتان پر حملہ انکے لیے مسلہ نہیں ہو گا۔ ریاست کا کام ہے وہ اپنے ہر خطے کی حفاظت کرے نہ کہ چند مخصوص شہروں کی ۔ ویسے اپنی ملک کی سالمیت پر لاہور کراچی ، ملتان کے سینکڑوں لوگ قربا ن نہیں ہو سکتے تو آزادی لینے کی ضرورت کیا تھی اگر یہی حضور سوچتے کہ میں اپنے چند لوگوں کو کفار سے تہہ و تیغ کیوں کرواوں بدر کی جنگ میں تو آج دنیا میں ایک ارب ٣٠ کروڑ مسلمان نہ ہوتے اگر ویت نام بھی یہی سوچ لیتا تو آج ویت نام ویت نام نہ ہوتا۔ تاریخ بھری پڑی ہے ایسی مثالوں سے ذرا پڑھیں تو آپکو پتہ چلے گا۔ لیکن ایک نوکری ، بیوی بچے ، ایک مکان، تنخواہ ،پینشن، بجلی پانی گیس کے بل والا ذہن رکھ کر یہ بات سمجھ میں نہیں آے گی کہ ملک کی سالمیت ، قوم کی خود مختاری اور آزادی کیا چیز ہوتی ہے۔


٥) میں نے کچھ چیزیں اوپر چوتھے پواینٹ میں بیا ن کردی ہیں ۔ آپ نے بالکل ٹھیک کہا کہ ملک اور ریاست جزبات سے نہیں چلایی جاتی۔ تو مجھے یہ بتا ییں کہ ملک کی سالمیت اور آزادی سے بھی کویی سنجیدہ چیز ہے ۔ اگر امریکہ آپکی طرح سوچے تو اسے تو امریکہ میں ہی رہنا چاہیے اس نے جتنے پیسے افغان اور عراق کی جنگ میں جھونکے ہیں وہ اگر اپنے ملک کی عوام کے لیے لگاتے تو کیا اچھا نہ ہوتا لیکن وہ اپنے ملک کی سالمیت کی حفاظت کے نام پر پیسہ بھی لگارہے ہیں اور اپنی فوج بھی مروا رہے ہیں۔ کس لیے ؟ اپنے ملک کی سالمیت پر ہونے والے اس حملے کو روکنے کے لیے جو ابھی ہو ا ہی نہیں لیکن ہم پر تو ہو رہا ہے نا سو ہم کیا کریں ہونے دیں


٦) ڈرون میں ہونے والی شہادتو ں کی تعداد اور کراچی میں ہونے والے قتلوں کی تعداد بھلے ایک جیسی ہو لیکن کراچی کا معاملہ ہمارا داخلی ہے اور ڈرون بیرون ملک کا حملہ ہے آپ کے گھر میں بچے لڑیں تو اور بات ہے لیکن باہر سے آپکو کویی مار دے یہ آپ کبھی برداشت نہیں کریں گے ۔ ہر ملک میں دھنگے فسادات اور قتل ہوتے ہیں لیکن کتنے ملکوں میں باہر سے ڈرون یا کچھ اور چیزیں آکر آپکے لوگوں کو مار دیتے ہیں ۔ مہربانی کرے دونوں کو مکس مت کریں۔ دونوں کلنگز ختم ہونی چاہیے ۔ کراچی کی کلنگ اچھی پولیسنگ کرنے سے ختم ہو سکتی ہے لیکن ڈرونز بالکل دوسرا معاملہ ہے ۔


٧) اسکا جواب میں دوسرے پواینٹ میں دے چکا ہوں یہ تو آپ خود بھی مان چکے ہیں کہ ڈرون آپکی ملک کی سالمیت پر حملہ ہیں تو پھربات ہی کیا رہ گیی ۔ اگر فوج ایسے اقدام کو انڈورس کرتی ہے جو ملک کی سالمیت پر حملہ ہے تو پھر ایسی فوج اور ایسے ملک کا اللہ ہی حافظ ہے ۔ اور کیا کہہ سکتا ہوں


٨) میں نے اپنے پوسٹ میں کہا ہے نا کہ اگر ایسا ہے تو فوج کو کریں فارغ اور اپنے ملک کی حفاظت امریکہ کو سونپیں اور امریکہ کی ایک کالونی بنکر رہنا شروع کردیں سارا جھنجھٹ ہی ختم ہو جاے گا۔ مسلہ کیا ہے


٩) طلعت ہر بات میں صحیح نہیں ہو سکتا اور عمران بھی نہ میں اور نہ آپ غلطی اور درستگی کی گنجایش ہر جگہ ہوتی ہے اور اگر ہمیں کسی کی بات ہم سے زیادہ درست لگے تو ہمیں مان لینےمیں کویی حرج بھی نہیں ہونا چاہیے ویسے میں دونوں کی بہت عزت کرتا ہوں ۔ ​

 

[EniGma90]

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٧) اسکا جواب میں دوسرے پواینٹ میں دے چکا ہوں یہ تو آپ خود بھی مان چکے ہیں کہ ڈرون آپکی ملک کی سالمیت پر حملہ ہیں تو پھربات ہی کیا رہ گیی ۔ اگر فوج ایسے اقدام کو انڈورس کرتی ہے جو ملک کی سالمیت پر حملہ ہے تو پھر ایسی فوج اور ایسے ملک کا اللہ ہی حافظ ہے ۔ اور کیا کہہ سکتا ہوں

Aapki tamam baatein durust hayn, Mager saari baat yahin aker khatm hojaati jo aapne kaha, na hi ye riyasat, iskay shehri or na hi afwuaj ideal state of mind mein hayn, qoum kay izzat or waqar ka levle aap dekhna chahtey hayn wohi meri bhi khuhaish hay,

Mager aisa nahi hosakta kay eik hath se hum salana 2-3 billion dollar ki imdaad lein or dusri taraf ushi mulk ko ankh dhikayen, aj ager akoi bartanya per ghair mulk se eik goli bhi fire kare, to ye jang k liye tayar hojate hayn, china or japan ky conflict ki misaal apke saamne hay..

Ap ki baatein bawazan hayn mager abhi humaari ryasat, qoum or afuwaj itnay alaa mayaar per nahi ponchsaki kay ye baatein samjh saken, akhir ko jo tayare hamari fizzaya ka fakhr hay wo bhi to americi hayn.. phely khud ko maashi tour per itna mazboot banana hoga kay bheek na mangni parey, warna Jiski lathi uski bhens ka riwaaj hay dunya mein.​

 

[Sedqal]

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٢) یا تو ڈرون حملے پاکستان کی سالمیت پر حملے ہو سکتے ہیں یا پھر ہماری فوج کے لیے سہولت۔ آپ پہلے یہ فیصلہ کریں کہ ڈرون حملے کہاں ہے۔ اگر پشاور کا کور کمانڈر بھی یہی سمجھتا ہے کہ ڈرون حملے ملک کی سالمیت پر حملہ ہیں لیکن وہ اسکو اسلیے نہیں گراییں گے کیونکہ وہ انکو سہولت دیتے ہیں تو پھر انکا غداری کے جرم میں کورٹ مارشل کرنا چاہیے کہ وہ ایسی چیز سے سہولت لے رہے جو ملک کی سالمیت پر حملہ ہیں۔ انکی ملک کی سالمیت کی حفاظت کے لیے برتی کیا گیا ہے نا کہ ملک کی سالمیت کے لیے خطرے والی چیزوں سے سہولت لینے کے لیے۔ ​

Bilkul Mumkin hai keh yeh hamlay Pak Army kee ijazat aur madad say ho rahay houn. Pakistan Army 'apnay' danishwaoun kay zaariey yeh paighaam day chuki hai keh woh aik saath itnay mahaaz nahi khol sakti. ANP aik nationalist party hai (pakhtoonon kee) aur in attacks kee hamayat kerti hai. Taliban nay asal nuqsaan to KPK ko puhunchaya hai.

٣)بیت اللہ محسود، نیک محمد اور الیا س کشمیری سے روس کو کویی خطرہ نہیں اور باقی رہی بات امریکی سالمیت کی تو امریکہ نے بڑی پرواہ کی تھی جب طالبان کی وہ مدد کررہا تھا روس کے خلاف۔ دوست یہ مفاد کی جنگ ہوتی ہے ۔ روس اور چین کے اس خطے میں مفاد ہیں سو اگر پاکستان اپنی ڈپلومیٹک سٹریٹیجی اور خارجہ پالیسی کو بہتر بناے تو وہ ان دونوں بڑے ملکوں کو اپنے پواینٹ پر قایل کرسکتاہے لیکن ایسا ایسی حکومت ہی کر سکتی ہے جو آزاد اور خود مختار الیکشن کے ذریعے حکومت میں آے نہ کہ امریکی کندھوں پر چڑھ کر این آر او کا سہارا لیکر آے اور ہر بات میں امریکہ کی ڈکٹیشن لے۔ ​

Muhtaram Russia ka masla Chechnya hai aur Tribal area mein chechyans kee aik bari taadad mojood hai. Secondly china/ Russia ka masla Uzbik aur deegar central asian states hain, Tribal area mein inki bhi bari taadad mojood hai. Finally China mein Muslim aqleeiat mojood hai aur un kay bhi chand log tribal areas mein mojood hain.

Talibaan hakoomat Afghanistan mein China aur Russia dono nahi chahtay! America ko nuqsaan dainay tak to support ker saktay hain laikin Afghanistan per hakoomat kay liey nahi (mumkin hai un ka stand bandal jaaey abhi tak to yah hai).

 

[hawkeyeblue]

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Talat please dont ASK Imran how and who will he stop the drones, Imran did what he could do now its YOUR (Media and all the opinion makers) responsibility to work unit the nation on this issue and must not divide the opinion which will bring pressure to the ruling elite of Pakistan which will influence foreign policy of Pakistan and TRUST me America cannot and will not outright reject the true united sentiment of Pakistan. So stop talking and start walking.

One big fat advice to Imran Kahn do not answer any HYPOTHETICAL questions. Talat should know better that one should not ask such questions.

 

[Sedqal]

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One big fat advice to Imran Kahn do not answer any HYPOTHETICAL questions. Talat should know better that one should not ask such questions.

Imran said that he will order drones to be shot down - to ask what will he do if that results in an all out war with USA/ Nato is not hypothetical (it is a logical development).

 

[Sedqal]

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oye shahzadey!
IK ki policy flawed he sahi.....where is your geedar leader's POlicy???

in raiwands basement???

uss ko bolo kabhi humein bhi bataoo???

IK has given his complete course of action..........the way he wan ts to deal with it......with many ways to go on about it...
and we all know that he will sincerely work on them....to find the best way out....will try his best to be fair to all stake holders...
you go and worry about your Geedar!
who is afraid to come out!

- IK has NO complete course of action. Complete course of action is when he points out what will happen in case things get out of control, how many countries will be on our side? What will be the nature of our relationship with Taliban? What effect will sanctions have on our economy? How will we recover from sanctions when USA is a major market for exports? How will we ensure no terrorism will take place from Pakistani soil?

Problem with Imran is that he is playing to the gallery in a very sensitive matter. We simply don't have enough data on what the 'establishment' is planning. All the major agreements took place in Musharaffs govt when Khurshid Qasoori was foreign minister and in the loop. Ask him to divulge the information regarding those agreements.

PML-N stance is obvious, democratic system & power to democratic institutions. People may have forgotten but way back in 98-99 Shariff's stance was that Pakistan's relationship should be with the Afghan awam not talibaan (they should get legitimacy by being elected).

 

[aykay47]

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acha kal tak doosron ko aik general say dar kar jeddah bhaagnay walay jo blah blah kartay thay aaj unn ka apna geedar aik chekpost say aagay naheen ja saka, north kia south waziristan main bhee naheen ja saka, jis aadmi main itni himmat na ho kay apnay alfaaz ko poora kar sakay uss say bara geedar kon hoga

shairon nay AIK longmarch keya or results dikhaye dunya ko, yeh naheen kaha kay yeh ho gyaa woh gyaa, geedar khan kay loomar supporter

oye shahzadey!
IK ki policy flawed he sahi.....where is your geedar leader's POlicy???

in raiwands basement???

uss ko bolo kabhi humein bhi bataoo???

IK has given his complete course of action..........the way he wan ts to deal with it......with many ways to go on about it...
and we all know that he will sincerely work on them....to find the best way out....will try his best to be fair to all stake holders...
you go and worry about your Geedar!
who is afraid to come out!

 

[InsafianPTI]

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IK ney jo kia woh bhi poori dunya ney daikha.....
shareefoon keh lifafa anchors ney nahi per puri dunya ney uss kee awaaz achhay tareekay sey sunni...so on your face!!!

doosri baat judges wala long march tumharay geedar leaders shareefos ney shuron nahi kia tha..lawyers and other political parties did it too...your geeder cheated people and made Noora deal...with half the demands met...
get your facts right!

acha kal tak doosron ko aik general say dar kar jeddah bhaagnay walay jo blah blah kartay thay aaj unn ka apna geedar aik chekpost say aagay naheen ja saka, north kia south waziristan main bhee naheen ja saka, jis aadmi main itni himmat na ho kay apnay alfaaz ko poora kar sakay uss say bara geedar kon hoga

shairon nay AIK longmarch keya or results dikhaye dunya ko, yeh naheen kaha kay yeh ho gyaa woh gyaa, geedar khan kay loomar supporter

 

[InsafianPTI]

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we are already in war??
when your noora had to do atomic blasts...that he tells the world so proudly...which was a retaliation to india did we not get sanctions??
did people not take it??
IK is not planning to attack but to defend its country from the agression of another country....its simple as that.

hahhhahahaha raiwind waloon ki US foreign policy hai???? oye kithay???? oh daso sanu????
I don't see any anywhere at all????

what isw your plan about drones?
what is your plan about dealing with qabailis?
WOT?
US relations?
the foreign aid?
educational reforms to provide basic education to the left out 50% population?

the monster population growth, heath food, and employment programmes??

don't tell me it s peeli taxi, aqalo-danish stupidity...and laptops....and few roads stunts

haha laptops..............thats your loser's vision....I think about them and feel like smaking them on their face.

- IK has NO complete course of action. Complete course of action is when he points out what will happen in case things get out of control, how many countries will be on our side? What will be the nature of our relationship with Taliban? What effect will sanctions have on our economy? How will we recover from sanctions when USA is a major market for exports? How will we ensure no terrorism will take place from Pakistani soil?

Problem with Imran is that he is playing to the gallery in a very sensitive matter. We simply don't have enough data on what the 'establishment' is planning. All the major agreements took place in Musharaffs govt when Khurshid Qasoori was foreign minister and in the loop. Ask him to divulge the information regarding those agreements.

PML-N stance is obvious, democratic system & power to democratic institutions. People may have forgotten but way back in 98-99 Shariff's stance was that Pakistan's relationship should be with the Afghan awam not talibaan (they should get legitimacy by being elected).

 

[k.a.kiani]

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Bilkul Mumkin hai keh yeh hamlay Pak Army kee ijazat aur madad say ho rahay houn. Pakistan Army 'apnay' danishwaoun kay zaariey yeh paighaam day chuki hai keh woh aik saath itnay mahaaz nahi khol sakti. ANP aik nationalist party hai (pakhtoonon kee) aur in attacks kee hamayat kerti hai. Taliban nay asal nuqsaan to KPK ko puhunchaya hai.



Muhtaram Russia ka masla Chechnya hai aur Tribal area mein chechyans kee aik bari taadad mojood hai. Secondly china/ Russia ka masla Uzbik aur deegar central asian states hain, Tribal area mein inki bhi bari taadad mojood hai. Finally China mein Muslim aqleeiat mojood hai aur un kay bhi chand log tribal areas mein mojood hain.

Talibaan hakoomat Afghanistan mein China aur Russia dono nahi chahtay! America ko nuqsaan dainay tak to support ker saktay hain laikin Afghanistan per hakoomat kay liey nahi (mumkin hai un ka stand bandal jaaey abhi tak to yah hai).

Yaar you must be in ISI otherwise how can somebody be so sure where tribal area exist or not. Do not talk about assumptions . can you tell me the source of your all of these news. Any news clip, any channel's accusations from any body. Don't tell me that you saying this on hear-say basis. do you think that tribal area has nothing to do other than fighting in different countries on the name of jahad. I have not heard any bigger rubbish than this. Even if it is possible, it could be bunch of people who went their to fight on their own. they have nothing to do with government of Pakistan. i am talking about Pakistan government convincing Russia and china. In present, pakistan has no policy against russia or china. I also didn't say to ask russia and china's support to make taliban government in afghanistan. Please don't go out of context.

 

[k.a.kiani]

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٧) اسکا جواب میں دوسرے پواینٹ میں دے چکا ہوں یہ تو آپ خود بھی مان چکے ہیں کہ ڈرون آپکی ملک کی سالمیت پر حملہ ہیں تو پھربات ہی کیا رہ گیی ۔ اگر فوج ایسے اقدام کو انڈورس کرتی ہے جو ملک کی سالمیت پر حملہ ہے تو پھر ایسی فوج اور ایسے ملک کا اللہ ہی حافظ ہے ۔ اور کیا کہہ سکتا ہوں

Aapki tamam baatein durust hayn, Mager saari baat yahin aker khatm hojaati jo aapne kaha, na hi ye riyasat, iskay shehri or na hi afwuaj ideal state of mind mein hayn, qoum kay izzat or waqar ka levle aap dekhna chahtey hayn wohi meri bhi khuhaish hay,

Mager aisa nahi hosakta kay eik hath se hum salana 2-3 billion dollar ki imdaad lein or dusri taraf ushi mulk ko ankh dhikayen, aj ager akoi bartanya per ghair mulk se eik goli bhi fire kare, to ye jang k liye tayar hojate hayn, china or japan ky conflict ki misaal apke saamne hay..

Ap ki baatein bawazan hayn mager abhi humaari ryasat, qoum or afuwaj itnay alaa mayaar per nahi ponchsaki kay ye baatein samjh saken, akhir ko jo tayare hamari fizzaya ka fakhr hay wo bhi to americi hayn.. phely khud ko maashi tour per itna mazboot banana hoga kay bheek na mangni parey, warna Jiski lathi uski bhens ka riwaaj hay dunya mein.​

No problem Aap bhi dua karein aur mein bhi krta hon kah pakistan mein aisi hakoomat aa'ey jo apne faislai khud kr sakai. 2-3 billion dollar waise america hamein daita nahi hai wo bhi sirf waada hi hota hai. agr aapko facts and figures se baat pata chali kah last time america ne hamein kab aid di thi tu mujhe bhi btaiya ga. yeh sab jo kuchh ho raha hai wo NRO ki hakoomat awr rubber stamp parliament ki waja se hai .
Aap ki aik aur baat per mujhe aitraaz hai bari ehtraam k saath r wo ye kah qoom k mayyar ko ap kuchh na kahein aur issko afwaaj aur hakoomat se compare mat krein balkai fooj ka bhi high ranks na kah low ranks ko. baaqi mujhe aapki saari baaton se ittefaq hai

 

[unique]

طلعت ایک اچھا صحافی ہے لیکن بے وجہ لفاظی کا عادی ہے

 

[aykay47]

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achha tou half demands met? waqai main? or poori demands kia theen? it was a movement for restoration of judiciary, which has been accomplished, ab aagay kia rondi maarni hai aap nay? o greebo, soch ke bhee ghurbat....

awaz suna dee jee bara kamal keya, amreeka darr gyaa kay drone attacks naheen karay ga.... baaton kay shair aisay he hotay hain na, jo apni baat bhee poori naheen kar saktay, darpok geedar

PMLN nay policies CHALA kar dikhaye hain, they dont need to bark like khan and his supporters, 97 to 99 govt main US will kay against atomic blasts bhee keyay and uss kay baa'd Kargill kay blunder ka solution bhee diplomacy kay through solve keya through US.... tum ghareeb soch kay loag ho, gaali say aagay kia soch saktay ho, itna he seekha hai kay bus sub kaafir aik tum momin

IK ney jo kia woh bhi poori dunya ney daikha.....
shareefoon keh lifafa anchors ney nahi per puri dunya ney uss kee awaaz achhay tareekay sey sunni...so on your face!!!

doosri baat judges wala long march tumharay geedar leaders shareefos ney shuron nahi kia tha..lawyers and other political parties did it too...your geeder cheated people and made Noora deal...with half the demands met...
get your facts right!