An open letter to Imran Khan from Zaid Zaman Hamid !

btghazwa

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
The character, language, and substance of the leader reflects in the followers. Amal o kum ummal o kum !
 

its_nomi

Voter (50+ posts)
Very good analysis Zaid Sahb. It is very true that Imran Khan is totally ignorant of ground realities and his thought can't go beyond Patvarees.
I have seen his interview and i was also shocked that this guy doesn't a pinch of understanding about foreign relations. He needs to improve himself a lot.He is simply a duffer as far as knowledge and vision is concern.
 

btghazwa

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Imran Khan is a good man, but to become the guardian of Pakistan, the criteria is very very high. Pakistan has suffered alot at the hands of munafiq, fasiq and fajirs and now when we are under 4th Generation war and surrounded by all sides we cannot experiment because our youth is in a hurry to cook up inqalabi carnival. Inqalab brings genuine change only when the leader has the hand of Rasul Allah (SAW) on his shoulder, and the people are willing to change like sahabas did. The new types of Mushrikeen/non believers say that now Khilafat e Rashidah cannot come, how can we develop a character like Sahabah e Karam, nauzo billah. Such lack of faith, such short sightedness and Qeht ar rijaal, Allah ki Panah.
 

knower

Minister (2k+ posts)
To be fair, I agree with Zaid Hamid,

NOOrey ke sath debate karna fazool hai,

Imran should debate with Zaid Hamid, this would be a nailbitter! 2 true Pakistanis, with different ideas, different thinking

noora will first of all never debate with IK, and he doesn't have anything useful to say ;;;;

I believe Zaid is right on on ''War againstTerrorism'', but with some arguments I don't agree of zaid hamid

same with Imran , I agree with most of his policies, but can't understand how he can reduce the defense budget while we are surrounded by so many enemies... also his stance on TTP is not logical I think...;

I've been supporting PTI for a long time , but after Imrans tour of India I'm confused , ; should I continue supporting IK, or look for a alternative?? Dr. Tahir ul Qadri?
 

Pracha

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
We have to fear the enemy within. It is corruption, cronyism, dynastic parties, and dual nationals who are sitting in the assemblies and government who have no loyalties to pakistan. Their families, wealth, and interests are outside the country. The time has come to spend money on education, human development, and good governance. Yes, we have spend on the defence, but not at the cost of human development and education.
 

Pracha

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
We have to get out of this cold war mentality. It not the guns and tanks that will protect you. It will be your people and industry that will become the barrier to foreign aggression. Look at Russia. Where it was and where it is now. Their economy is in shambles. It is considered a third rate country despite having the military might. Put your money where your mouth is.
 

Fursan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: An open letter to Imran Khan from Zaid Hamid !

Zaid Hamid saab, you are very emotional person. Thats why you can never be a leader. What Imran did was right. You guys want us to fight for no reason and let army to take our budget. We need to spend our budget for education. You are referring Prophet pbuh , If you have knowledge, the first thing he emphasis, education. Matter of effect he pardon prisoner with the condition of worldly teaching. We respect your honesty towards Pakistan, but we need leader like Imran, who has better vision and plan for us. Thanks but no thanks.... May Allah protect my leader IK.


This means that PTI is anti-army
Who said that army eats 80% of our budget ?
 

nuzhatghazali

Minister (2k+ posts)
زید حامد اور عمران خان دونوں ہی انتہائی دیانت دار انسان ہیں ..
........... لیکن
دونوں کی ورکنگ فیلڈ علیحدہ ہیں اور اسی لئے دونوں کے نظریات کا ٹکراؤ ہو سکتا ہے
لیکن
یہ ٹکراؤ کوئی بری بات نہیں ہے نظریات یا مقاصد الگ ہونے کی وجہ سے لازمی نہیں ہے کہ ایک برا اور ایک اچھا ہو گیا
عمران خان ایک سیاست دا ن ہیں اور زید حامد ایک عسکری تجزیہ نگار انہیں ہم تھوڑی دیر کے لئے فوج کا ترجمان تصور کر لیتے ہیں
عمران خان نے ہندوستان کا دورہ کیا جو کچھ لوگوں کو پسند نہیں آیا بہ حثیت سیاستدان کے اگر عمران خان نے ملکوں میں جا کر اپنے موقف کو واضح کیا تو کوئی بری بات نہیں کی یوں تو پاکستان کے اندرونی الیکشن سے باہر کے ملکوں کا کوئی تعلق نہیں ہے لیکن تیسری دنیا کے ملکوں پر بیرونی دباؤ موجود ہے لہٰذا اگر عمران خان بغیر کچھ خرچ کیے رایے عامہ اپنے حق میں کر لیں تو کوئی بری بات نہیں
اگر غزوہ ہند کی پیشن گوئی موجود ہے تو ضرور پوری ہو گی مجھے بھی یقین ہے کہ جس طرح اور پشنگویا ن پوری ہوئی ہیں یا پوری ہونے کے آثار نظر ا رہے ہیں اسی طرح یہ پیشوں گوئی بھی پوری ہو گی لیکن کس وقت پوری ہوگی اس کا کوئی وقت مقرر نہیں ہے ....ہوسکتا ہے غزوہ ہند سو سال بعد ہو ستر سال بعد ہو دو سو سال بعد ہو ہم ابھی سے اپنی تلواریں کس کر کیوں کھڑے ہوجائیں ...... اور اگر زید حامد کو یہ یقین ہے کہ غزوہ ہند ہوکر رہے گا تو پھر دونوں ملک پیار کی پینگیں بڑھا رہے ہیں تو بڑھانے دیں جو بات ہونے والی ہو گی وہ ہو کر رہے گی دو ملکوں کے درمیاں جنگ چھڑنے میں ایک منٹ کی دیر نہیں لگتی جب جنگ چھیڑیں گے
تو دیکھ لیں گے ہو سکتا ہے کہ پیا ر و محبت کی حکمت عملی سے ہی جنگ جیتنے کا
کوئی راستہ نکل آیے
 

nuzhatghazali

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: An open letter to Imran Khan from Zaid Hamid !

دوسرا گھمبیر مسلہ ہے آیندہ ہونے والے انتخاب
یہاں زید حامد کا موقف بلکل صحیح ہے
کرپٹ حکمرانوں کی موجودگی میں صاف و شفاف انتخابات اور اس کے ذریے عمران خان کا جیتنا ایک ناممکن بلکے ناممکن ترین بات ہے
اگر دنیا کی کوئی ناممکن بات ہے تو وہ یہی ہے اسٹیٹس کیو کی ساری طاقتیں مل کی بےبس عدلیہ یا پھر اندر سے بلیک میل ہوئی ہوئی عدلیہ
کو گونگا بہرہ کر کے انتخابات لڑیں گی یہ تینوں پارٹیوں کی موت اور زندگی کی جنگ ہو گی لہٰذا مک مکے کے ساتھ ہارنے کا کوئی امکان نہیں
میڈیا پر خزانوں کے منھ کھول دئیے جایئں گے ..... میڈیا کا اصل کام فوج کو استٹس کیو کی طاقتوں سے دور رکھنا ہوگا
عوام تبدیلی کی اس لگایے بیٹھے ہوں گے وہ کسی صورت دوبارہ اس سیٹ اپ کو قبول نہیں کریں گے
ملک میں ایک اعجیب افراتفری کا عالم ہوگا
ملک میں ایک عجیب افراتفری کا عالم ہو گا .... یہاں زید حامد کی پیشن گوئی بلکل درست ہے کہ ایسے انارکی کے دور میں فوج کا آنا ناگزیر ہو جایے گا تو پھر وہ فوج جس کا نہ عدلیہ نے ساتھ دیا نہ عوام نے ساتھ دیا حتی کہ سب کے دباؤ میں اکر عمران خان بھی فوج کا بجٹ کم کرنے کی بات کرنے لگے بجایے اس کے کہ وہ اس پریشر میں فوج کا ساتھ دیں لہٰذا یہاں زید حامد کا سوال بلکل جائز ہے کہ اگر کل ملک کے حالات ایسے ہوجایئں کہ فوج کو ملک بچانے کے لئے آنا ہی پڑے تو وہ پھر ملک بچانے ہی آیے گی عمران خان کو بچانے یا ان کو انتخابات جتوانے کے لئے نہیں اور ملک بچانے کا طریقہ تو یہی ہے کہ ملک میں موجود سارے دلدر کو صاف کیا جایے اور پھر الیکشن کیے جایئں یہاں مجھے فوج اور طاہر ال قادری ایک ہی صفحے پر نظر آ رہے ہیں ... یہاں عمران خان کو فوج کے ساتھ اپنا الائنمنٹ درست کرنے کی ضرورت ہے
 
Zahid Hamid is an extremist nutcase, a shoelicker of establishment and nothing but an idiot. His views are not even worth responding to. He wants to conquer the world (how?), but complains about his backside kicked by America and India. He believes in conquering India, but talks about occupation in Kashmir. He is a hypocrite extremist duffer, idiot.

Him talking about Imran Khan is like spitting on the moon.
 

btghazwa

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
We have to fear the enemy within. It is corruption, cronyism, dynastic parties, and dual nationals who are sitting in the assemblies and government who have no loyalties to pakistan. Their families, wealth, and interests are outside the country. The time has come to spend money on education, human development, and good governance. Yes, we have spend on the defence, but not at the cost of human development and education.

Pakistan is destroyed by the educated people not the illiterate ones firstly and secondly, we have been ordered to keep our defenses even if we are hungry. Rasul Allah SAW would be often hungry for the days but he would have the finest swords and horses ready for wars. The enemy propaganda has softened you up guys, without ghairat, dignity and honor their remains no human, hunger and education is secondary. Our education system doesnt enlighted us anyways, it just arms idiots with smarter words to fool others.
 

romihussain

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: An open letter to Imran Khan from Zaid Hamid !

Stop making a joke out of yourself and this country. This is a very serious matter. Fear Allah from the day India and Nato armies will break your doors and grab your sisters like in Iraq and Palestine. Enough of non sense !

wtf ...you r talking mate!! you've got any idea that pakistan is the fort of islam?? mujahids from all over the world go there and get trained...... and the people of pakistan?? don't underestimate them .... they're not arabs who throw stones in response of missiles and rokets..... how can you compare pakistanis with poor palestinians and poor iraqis?? there is no doubt about it that they're fighting with each other at the moment .... but when it comes to the security of pakistani soil and islam they always have shown unity....... and whenever god forbid anyone attack whether its india america isreal or iran ..... the people of pakstan have got enough courage to stand with there armed forces and take part in battles physically...... each and everyone of them ...... and those ttp's activists fighting against army of their own..... they'll foget every difference and will definitely stand with their army..... no one in this world is brave enough to grab our sisters from home inshallah..... pakistanis know how to tackle with invaders.... they know how to do jihad!!
 

btghazwa

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: An open letter to Imran Khan from Zaid Hamid !

wtf ...you r talking mate!! you've got any idea that pakistan is the fort of islam?? mujahids from all over the world go there and get trained...... and the people of pakistan?? don't underestimate them .... they're not arabs who throw stones in response of missiles and rokets..... how can you compare pakistanis with poor palestinians and poor iraqis?? there is no doubt about it that they're fighting with each other at the moment .... but when it comes to the security of pakistani soil and islam they always have shown unity....... and whenever god forbid anyone attack whether its india america isreal or iran ..... the people of pakstan have got enough courage to stand with there armed forces and take part in battles physically...... each and everyone of them ...... and those ttp's activists fighting against army of their own..... they'll foget every difference and will definitely stand with their army..... no one in this world is brave enough to grab our sisters from home inshallah..... pakistanis know how to tackle with invaders.... they know how to do jihad!!

Brother you are saying this to the wrong person. And TTP are Khawarij they will never stand with us.
 

romihussain

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: An open letter to Imran Khan from Zaid Hamid !

Brother you are saying this to the wrong person. And TTP are Khawarij they will never stand with us.

fatwa sazi ka hunar bhi koot koot ke bhara hai hamarey logo mein jisko chahey apni marzi sey yazeedi ka title dedein jisko chahein khawarij kehdein jisko chahy kafir o mushrik biddati kehdein ...... arey bhai yeh kaam islami nazaryati council jo is mulk ka ek baaqaida idara hai unka hai .... aap zabardasti mein ttp ko khawarij kehrahey ho lekin agar phir bhi dil chahta hai to kehtey raho aap ke kehney sey woh khawarij behraal ho nahi jayngey.....
 

btghazwa

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: An open letter to Imran Khan from Zaid Hamid !

fatwa sazi ka hunar bhi koot koot ke bhara hai hamarey logo mein jisko chahey apni marzi sey yazeedi ka title dedein jisko chahein khawarij kehdein jisko chahy kafir o mushrik biddati kehdein ...... arey bhai yeh kaam islami nazaryati council jo is mulk ka ek baaqaida idara hai unka hai .... aap zabardasti mein ttp ko khawarij kehrahey ho lekin agar phir bhi dil chahta hai to kehtey raho aap ke kehney sey woh khawarij behraal ho nahi jayngey.....

You do not know our work and it's reach, and the authority we have to say so, and it's impossible for me to write all that here. If you are really interested you can check our work here www.brasstacks.pk. Check out the policy papers, magazines,programs, and books. If nothing it will increase your knowledge.
 

Pracha

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You have made me speechless. There is a thing called "straw man fallacy". No one has said that you have to be "begairat", and have no dignity. This country is destroyed by the feudal system and establishment mafia (military). Most of your leaders in parliament are uneducated and ultra corrupt. They want their followers to be uneducated, and emotional - so they can manipulate them with emotions, slogans, and gimmicks. On the other hand these parliamentarians, generals, and religiously scholars are sending their children to the best universities of the world. So that, they come back and use their high tech ways to plunder your money. So, please go ahead and keep shouting those slogans and keep polishing their shoes.

As someone has said, military is made for the country. In pakistan, country is made for the military.
 

Pracha

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Pakistan is destroyed by the educated people not the illiterate ones firstly and secondly, we have been ordered to keep our defenses even if we are hungry. Rasul Allah SAW would be often hungry for the days but he would have the finest swords and horses ready for wars. The enemy propaganda has softened you up guys, without ghairat, dignity and honor their remains no human, hunger and education is secondary. Our education system doesnt enlighted us anyways, it just arms idiots with smarter words to fool others.

You have made me speechless. There is a thing called "straw man fallacy". No one has said that you have to be "begairat", and have no dignity. This country is destroyed by the feudal system and establishment mafia (military). Most of your leaders in parliament are uneducated and ultra corrupt. They want their followers to be uneducated, and emotional - so they can manipulate them with emotions, slogans, and gimmicks. On the other hand these parliamentarians, generals, and religiously scholars are sending their children to the best universities of the world. So that, they come back and use their high tech ways to plunder your money. So, please go ahead and keep shouting those slogans and keep polishing their shoes.

As someone has said, military is made for the country. In pakistan, country is made for the military.
 

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