America Punjab mai b army operation karwana chahta hai | The war on terror comes to Punjab|Blackwate

LeftBrain

MPA (400+ posts)
You are talking about before 1930 ...... Iqbal was the President of All India Muslim League when party was inaugurated in Allahabad ... want me to give you pictorial proof ?

I asked for proofs of any Punjabi doing any thing for Baluchis and Sindhis in 1970s and 1980s first. You have them?
 

Ammad Hafeez

Minister (2k+ posts)
Punjabi Taliban preparing for major terror attack: Malik

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The government was cooperating with the US in the Faisal Shahzad case: Rehman Malik
Interior Minister Rehman Malik on Wednesday claimed that the Punjabi Taliban were preparing for a major terror attack in the country and said Lashkar-i-Jhangvi was involved in the attacks on the Marriott hotel in Islamabad, the GHQ in Rawalpindi and the terror attacks in Lahore.


Malik, while briefing the Senate Standing Committee, said the Punjabi Taliban are a big threat to the country and they are preparing to launch a major attack.
He said the government was cooperating with the US in the Faisal Shahzad case.
He further informed the committee that he had asked the Punjab government to take immediate action against the terrorists.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect...reparing+for+major+terror+attack+malik--bi-03
 

greywolf

Councller (250+ posts)
to merey munney kia tumahrey NO kehney se Operation naheen ho ga? Tum jesey log to shor macha macha kar mar gaye lekin aaj tak kuch naheen hua!!!
Or ye aik watan or aik mulk ki baatain paanchween ki muasharti uloom ki book main achi lagti hain, is ka koi practical implication naheen hey, all these talks do is fool people like you.

so daboo uncle ... you agree ke hum jaise log shor macha macha kar mar gaye ... phir tum kehte ho ke Punjab se bola koi naheen ... tumhari konsi baat sahi mani jaye ?

Jab Punjab Bank banaya ja raha tha tab tum naheen boley they ke yeh kiun ban raha hey, Pakistan Bank hona chahiye bas?

Kiyun jab Sindh Agricultural bank bana thaa to kya tum bolay thay ... yeh koi issues naheen hain ... tumharay paas koi baat hi naheen karne ke liye ...


Jab Punjab or baqi soobey paani or revenue ki distribution par lartey hain tab yeh tumhari aik watam ki theory kahan ja kar mar jaati hey merey munney?

dabboo uncle ... sab se zyada revenue phir bhee punjab se hi ikatha hota hai ... paani ki distribution ? Sindh main konsa bumper crop hai dabboo uncle ? Baluchistan ka NFC award Sindh to naheen laya ... hamari hi theory kaam ayee aik watan wali ...

Agar aik watan naam ki koi cheez hoti to ab tak Kala Baagh dam ban chuka hota, agar naheen bana hey to us ki aik hi waja hey ke we are not one, we think differently, act differeently and begave differently.
bekar aur larakoo aurton ki tarah taa'nay na do ... apni aur sindh ki baat karo ... Kala Bagh dam naheen bana to yeh bhee Punjab ki aik watan wali theory hi hai na ... verna hum taqat ke zor par bana lete ... phir tum kehte ke fauj ne operation kiyun kiya ? kiyun hai na dabboo uncle ?

Jab Pakistan ban raha tha tab bhi poora ka poora Punjab Muslim League ke opponents (Mian Shafi, Doltanas and Hayat family and that Mushtaq Gormani guy) ki god main betha hua tha......

Mian Shafi aik aadmi thaa jo Muslim League ka mukhalif thaa ... Doltanas were with Quaid ..... I don't understand who you mean by Hayat Family aur ... dabboo uncle ... Mushtaq Gurmani Bengali thaa aur Liaqat Ali Khan ke qatal ke peechhe bhee ussi ka haath thaa ... Governor Gen. Ghulam Mohammad ko support karne wala bhee yehi thaa ... aur phir yehi Bengal ka Governor bana aur Bengal main famine ke doar main yehi shakhs thaa jiss ne anaaj store kar ke bengalis ko bhooka mar diya thaa ...

merey dost aankahin kholo or paancheen ki muasharti uloom ki kitaab se bahar niklo, their is nothing lik eunity or any thing in this country.

tumhen na nazar aati ho gi unity magar hamaray dushmanon ko khoob nazar aati hai ... woh jab Pakistan par attack karte hain to Sindh main hamla karte hain, Punjab main hamla karte hain, Sarhad aur Baluchistan main hamla karte hain aur kehte hain hum ne Pakistan par hamla kiya ..... tum hamaray dushmanon se bhee gaye guzray ho ...
 

BluntMan

MPA (400+ posts)
well it appears that logic is some alien thing for you but we are talking about army, and Musharraf was head of army, it doesnt make army free of all failures because he was the chief, it is still our army that failed to deliver. Similarly 1971 war lost was a war lost. there are no IFs and BUTs in it.

Kargil was a disaster but PAKISTAN DIDNT LOSE AN INCH OF ITS TERRITORY.

1971 was a war that was ended by Bhutto and Mujeeb who agreed to two seperate countries.

1948, Pakistan won half of Kashmir from India which is now in Pakistan

1965 i have mentioned above, Pakistan launched Operation Grand Slam, read about it. Read about the battles in sialkot and Lahore.

1967 Pakistani forces were sent to aid Arab forces. Check Pakistan's record in that

1973 again Pakistan sent its forces to aid Arab countries against Israel, again Pakistan's result was 100 % against Israel

USSR was defeated in Afghanistan by Pakistan

Bosnian Muslims were able to avoid annahilition by Pakistani help

All the stuff required to make nuclear weapons was arranged by Pakistan Army's agencies and many people gave their life in this. the whole world was against it.

Pakistan's agencies secured the nuclear programme which the whole world was against.
 

greywolf

Councller (250+ posts)
well it appears that logic is some alien thing for you but we are talking about army, and Musharraf was head of army, it doesnt make army free of all failures because he was the chief, it is still our army that failed to deliver. Similarly 1971 war lost was a war lost. there are no IFs and BUTs in it.
yeh khala jee ka ghar naheen hai Army hai ... yehan saari zimma-dari sirf aur sirf Chief par hoti hai ... agar aik soldier apne commander ke hukum par ankhen band karke daryaa main kood sakta hai to phir uss ki zimma-dari naheen rehti ... and even if there are no IFs and Butts ... still it was not a conventional war ... because it was an engineered freedom movement ... verna jiss ne jang jeeti thee woh Bangladesh ka malik ban gaya hota .....
 

BluntMan

MPA (400+ posts)
Its all about cooperation with the USA. Rehman Malik and his ''chalis chor'' with Zardari offered more to USA then Musharraf. Now they will go to any extent. What is happening in Pakistan will increase extremism not abolish it. USA and India are Pakistan's friends? the advice they are giving to Pakistan would be good for Pakistan?
 

greywolf

Councller (250+ posts)
I asked for proofs of any Punjabi doing any thing for Baluchis and Sindhis in 1970s and 1980s first. You have them?


kya yeh proof kafi hai ?

o merey munney kia tumahrey NO kehney se Operation naheen ho ga? Tum jesey log to shor macha macha kar mar gaye lekin aaj tak kuch naheen hua!!!
Or ye aik watan or aik mulk ki baatain paanchween ki muasharti uloom ki book main achi lagti hain, is ka koi practical implication naheen hey, all these talks do is fool people like you.

Was it you who wrote this :
I dont want to bust you imaginatory world my friend but Iqbal joined Mian Muhammad Shafi's League (known as Shafi League) which was working against Quaid-e-Azam and was a Pro-British party. Iqbal was member of that league.
???

So I told you that you were talking about before 1930. And at that time even Quaid e Azam was not in Muslim League ... he was still in Congress. Later he separated from Congress and left for UK ... and then Dr. Iqbal RA brought him back right into Muslim League ... go read history before you try to distort it.
 

sangeen

Minister (2k+ posts)
Khuda ki panah MQM to Pakistan dushmani mae USA se bhi aage nikal gaya.... I can see the pathetic attempts from MQM fellows to start operations everywhere in Pakistan...... How about starting an intense army operation in karachi by eliminating all the BHATTA khors from Pakistan and send them on exile to their beloved lost land i.e India....

imaging this is year 2020. Pak army is in intense pressure to start new operations. Pak army perviously did operations in Peshawar, Lahore, Koita, Multan, Wihari, Bahawalpor, Sahiwal, Chak No.2 Faisalabad, so many other small areas and Qasbas, and Colonies, and streets, Lahore Food Street, Gulbarg, Lahore University and so on on on... USA and MQM's guys still asking for more operations... USA is now demanding pak army to do operation in Allah Ditta's home or US will do it..... Taliban's fear or excuse doesn't exist anymore and there are new American enemies "Alliens" hiding and getting training inside Pakistan... Fawad Digital's bank balance is over flowing of $$$$ and the the welwishers of America and India having Green Cards (did i say MQM?? :))...... Oh God 2020 is amazing.... Israel is no more a small country but rather a big continent now consisting of all Middle East and most asian countries.... India is a world power with Brahmans the most powerful eliet but it is still a big slum as their poors' life never changes..... A Pakistan- US national is recently arrested accused of hiding an atom bomb in his nose with intentions to destroy north and south American continents and 1000 Kg uranium discoverd out of his nose.... Rehman Malik proved his relations to N.Waziristan by using his devine magical powers.... ooppppppppssss bohat aage nikal gaya..... Allah hafiz ab rakhta hon...

 

LeftBrain

MPA (400+ posts)
so daboo uncle ... you agree ke hum jaise log shor macha macha kar mar gaye ... phir tum kehte ho ke Punjab se bola koi naheen ... tumhari konsi baat sahi mani jaye ?



Kiyun jab Sindh Agricultural bank bana thaa to kya tum bolay thay ... yeh koi issues naheen hain ... tumharay paas koi baat hi naheen karne ke liye ...




dabboo uncle ... sab se zyada revenue phir bhee punjab se hi ikatha hota hai ... paani ki distribution ? Sindh main konsa bumper crop hai dabboo uncle ? Baluchistan ka NFC award Sindh to naheen laya ... hamari hi theory kaam ayee aik watan wali ...


bekar aur larakoo aurton ki tarah taa'nay na do ... apni aur sindh ki baat karo ... Kala Bagh dam naheen bana to yeh bhee Punjab ki aik watan wali theory hi hai na ... verna hum taqat ke zor par bana lete ... phir tum kehte ke fauj ne operation kiyun kiya ? kiyun hai na dabboo uncle ?



Mian Shafi aik aadmi thaa jo Muslim League ka mukhalif thaa ... Doltanas were with Quaid ..... I don't understand who you mean by Hayat Family aur ... dabboo uncle ... Mushtaq Gurmani Bengali thaa aur Liaqat Ali Khan ke qatal ke peechhe bhee ussi ka haath thaa ... Governor Gen. Ghulam Mohammad ko support karne wala bhee yehi thaa ... aur phir yehi Bengal ka Governor bana aur Bengal main famine ke doar main yehi shakhs thaa jiss ne anaaj store kar ke bengalis ko bhooka mar diya thaa ...



tumhen na nazar aati ho gi unity magar hamaray dushmanon ko khoob nazar aati hai ... woh jab Pakistan par attack karte hain to Sindh main hamla karte hain, Punjab main hamla karte hain, Sarhad aur Baluchistan main hamla karte hain aur kehte hain hum ne Pakistan par hamla kiya ..... tum hamaray dushmanon se bhee gaye guzray ho ...

after reading your "brilliant" replies, I am forced to realize once again about lack of mental abilities and lack of logical thinking in this country.
I rest my case!!!!!!!
 

greywolf

Councller (250+ posts)
Khuda ki panah MQM to Pakistan dushmani mae USA se bhi aage nikal gaya.... I can see the pathetic attempts from MQM fellows to start operations everywhere in Pakistan...... How about starting an intense army operation in karachi by eliminating all the BHATTA khors from Pakistan and send them on exile to their beloved lost land i.e India....

imaging this is year 2020. Pak army is in intense pressure to start new operations. Pak army perviously did operations in Peshawar, Lahore, Koita, Multan, Wihari, Bahawalpor, Sahiwal, Chak No.2 Faisalabad, so many other small areas and Qasbas, and Colonies, and streets, Lahore Food Street, Gulbarg, Lahore University and so on on on... USA and MQM's guys still asking for more operations... USA is now demanding pak army to do operation in Allah Ditta's home or US will do it..... Taliban's fear or excuse doesn't exist anymore and there are new American enemies "Alliens" hiding and getting training inside Pakistan... Fawad Digital's bank balance is over flowing of $$$$ and the the welwishers of America and India having Green Cards (did i say MQM?? :))...... Oh God 2020 is amazing.... Israel is no more a small country but rather a big continent now consisting of all Middle East and most asian countries.... India is a world power with Brahmans the most powerful eliet but it is still a big slum as their poors' life never changes..... A Pakistan- US national is recently arrested accused of hiding an atom bomb in his nose with intentions to destroy north and south American continents and 1000 Kg uranium discoverd out of his nose.... Rehman Malik proved his relations to N.Waziristan by using his devine magical powers.... ooppppppppssss bohat aage nikal gaya..... Allah hafiz ab rakhta hon...


and while chor always machaye shor ke Doltanas, Shafis and Gurmanis were against Muslim League ... I am sure Quaid meant this element when he said he had some loose change in his pocket he knew.
 

LeftBrain

MPA (400+ posts)
Khuda ki panah MQM to Pakistan dushmani mae USA se bhi aage nikal gaya.... I can see the pathetic attempts from MQM fellows to start operations everywhere in Pakistan...... How about starting an intense army operation in karachi by eliminating all the BHATTA khors from Pakistan and send them on exile to their beloved lost land i.e India....

imaging this is year 2020. Pak army is in intense pressure to start new operations. Pak army perviously did operations in Peshawar, Lahore, Koita, Multan, Wihari, Bahawalpor, Sahiwal, Chak No.2 Faisalabad, so many other small areas and Qasbas, and Colonies, and streets, Lahore Food Street, Gulbarg, Lahore University and so on on on... USA and MQM's guys still asking for more operations... USA is now demanding pak army to do operation in Allah Ditta's home or US will do it..... Taliban's fear or excuse doesn't exist anymore and there are new American enemies "Alliens" hiding and getting training inside Pakistan... Fawad Digital's bank balance is over flowing of $$$$ and the the welwishers of America and India having Green Cards (did i say MQM?? :))...... Oh God 2020 is amazing.... Israel is no more a small country but rather a big continent now consisting of all Middle East and most asian countries.... India is a world power with Brahmans the most powerful eliet but it is still a big slum as their poors' life never changes..... A Pakistan- US national is recently arrested accused of hiding an atom bomb in his nose with intentions to destroy north and south American continents and 1000 Kg uranium discoverd out of his nose.... Rehman Malik proved his relations to N.Waziristan by using his devine magical powers.... ooppppppppssss bohat aage nikal gaya..... Allah hafiz ab rakhta hon...


hahahahahaha
to jab Israel or India itni bari powers ban rahey they to us waqt kiya tum or tumhari army bhuttey bhoon rahi thi!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

BluntMan

MPA (400+ posts)
well it appears that logic is some alien thing for you but we are talking about army, and Musharraf was head of army, it doesnt make army free of all failures because he was the chief, it is still our army that failed to deliver. Similarly 1971 war lost was a war lost. there are no IFs and BUTs in it. Kargil was a disaster but PAKISTAN DIDNT LOSE AN INCH OF ITS TERRITORY.

1971 was a war that was ended by Bhutto and Mujeeb who agreed to two seperate countries.

1948, Pakistan won half of Kashmir from India which is now in Pakistan

1965 i have mentioned above, Pakistan launched Operation Grand Slam, read about it. Read about the battles in sialkot and Lahore.

1967 Pakistani forces were sent to aid Arab forces. Check Pakistan's record in that

1973
again Pakistan sent its forces to aid Arab countries against Israel, again Pakistan's result was 100 % against Israel

USSR was defeated in Afghanistan by Pakistan

Bosnian Muslims were able to avoid annahilition by Pakistani help

All the stuff required to make nuclear weapons was arranged by Pakistan Army's agencies and many people gave their life in this. the whole world was against it.

Pakistan's agencies secured the nuclear programme which the whole world was against.
 

BluntMan

MPA (400+ posts)

hahahahahaha
to jab Israel or India itni bari powers ban rahey they to us waqt kiya tum or tumhari army bhuttey bhoon rahi thi!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes it is Pakistan's army. Why are you concerned about Pakistan's army? you refer to Pakistan Army as ''your army''. Pakistan Army's achievements have been mentioned by me above. Here they are again,

1971 was a war that was ended by Bhutto and Mujeeb who agreed to two seperate countries.

1948, Pakistan won half of Kashmir from India which is now in Pakistan

1965 i have mentioned above, Pakistan launched Operation Grand Slam, read about it. Read about the battles in sialkot and Lahore.

1967 Pakistani forces were sent to aid Arab forces. Check Pakistan's record in that

1973
again Pakistan sent its forces to aid Arab countries against Israel, again Pakistan's result was 100 % against Israel

USSR was defeated in Afghanistan by Pakistan

Bosnian Muslims were able to avoid annahilition by Pakistani help

All the stuff required to make nuclear weapons was arranged by Pakistan Army's agencies and many people gave their life in this. the whole world was against it.

Pakistan's agencies secured the nuclear programme which the whole world was against.
 

greywolf

Councller (250+ posts)
Yes it is Pakistan's army. Why are you concerned about Pakistan's army? you refer to Pakistan Army as ''your army''. Pakistan Army's achievements have been mentioned by me above. Here they are again,

1971 was a war that was ended by Bhutto and Mujeeb who agreed to two seperate countries.

1948, Pakistan won half of Kashmir from India which is now in Pakistan

1965 i have mentioned above, Pakistan launched Operation Grand Slam, read about it. Read about the battles in sialkot and Lahore.

1967 Pakistani forces were sent to aid Arab forces. Check Pakistan's record in that

1973
again Pakistan sent its forces to aid Arab countries against Israel, again Pakistan's result was 100 % against Israel

USSR was defeated in Afghanistan by Pakistan

Bosnian Muslims were able to avoid annahilition by Pakistani help

All the stuff required to make nuclear weapons was arranged by Pakistan Army's agencies and many people gave their life in this. the whole world was against it.

Pakistan's agencies secured the nuclear programme which the whole world was against.


yaar yeh log bohat hi be-sharam aur be-ghairat hain ... abb to Mujeeb ur Rehman ki grand-daughter bhee maan gayee hai ke uss ka dada indians mukti bahni se mila huaa thaa ... magar yeh log phir bhee apni baat kiye jatay hain ... tuff hai inn par.
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
I see that quiet a heated discussion is going on but I joined late so I am not gonna read all them long posts. But I will write this:

1. I noticed that StateDept has used the word
'DOST', I wonder since when they became our DOST. For a friend like them who needs enemy?

2.
وہ اعداد وشمار اور جاری منصوبوں پر نظر ڈاليں جو اس وقت بے شمار امريکی نجی اور سرکاری تنظيموں کے توسط سے جاری ہيں۔
Seriously, Paleeeeeeeeeeese 'go on!! take the money and run' (bigsmile)

3. Yahoods have always been creator or murder, terror, bhook, pyaas, anti-peace, even in the day of Moses (as). Didnt He (as) leave for 40 nights and Jews started worshiping gold cows?

4. Americans have worked their head off to dis-balance the world power by bringing down the Soviets. They are just reaping the benefits of what Reagan admin did, kill, terrorize the hell outta Muslims with false 911 case.

I dont blame the grass root Christians of the US. Those poor people dont even know and don't want to think what their CIA with mossad is doing or their defense dept is doing. They have been brainwashed by the Jewish media. They are very busy holding bottle by the neck and woman by the waste. However if ONE American is hurt by Muslim, specially a Pakistani, Arab, he becomes instant al-qaeda member.

One of my Christian buddy from New Mexico said it all: I don't understand the mentality of the western media. When an Islamic guy kills bunch of Jews, he becomes an instant terrorist. But when a Jew showers innocent Muslims in mosques with ak47, he is a Jewish settler.

But you must hand it to the Jews for incredible planning of 911 and steering the US, the media, the world, in the direction of nukes in Pakistan. Israel has concern with our nukes because we might become in her way of expanding into neighboring countries. I bet it was well in advance board-room edited and dry-run, and practiced.


 
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Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
hahahahahaha
to jab Israel or India itni bari powers ban rahey they to us waqt kiya tum or tumhari army bhuttey bhoon rahi thi!!!!!!!!!!!!

By reading your comments I start to think that if you really are Pakistani or you belong to our great friend at the border.With all its faults and weaknesses and with all its mistakes, Pakistan Army is indeed needed to protect and secure this country. I am dead against their interferance with our political system since Pakistanis have paid very heavy price for army's intervention in to our politics. Having said that, this is also a reality that we need army , every country need one.As much as we want army to stay and focus on their defense work and don't get invloved in to running the country, we have to encourage our soldiers and honor their sacrifices in the past. I do not want to get in to the discussions of previous wars and bettles, however I do appreciate their services and the services of the common soldiers who got nothing to do with the decisions of higher ups.When you pass comments, consider the necessity of having armed forces and keeping their moral up. And please do not make derogatory comments about different ethnicities and provinces and divide the people as per their race and language they speak. I know that it is tough for MQM supporters, however, do not bring army in to this division and request other countries to start an operation in Pakistan.Those who are sitting in the glass rooms should not throw stones.........
 

Bret Hawk

Senator (1k+ posts)
Tera Kya Hoga Kaalia (Pakistani Establishemnt)

Well keeping myself alien to this highly charged ethnic and racial debate among the participants of this thread I would like to post a unique dimension to this news item which has appeared in a localised newspaper of Pakistan about the possibility of initiating a military operation in the Southern Punjab region on the behest of Pakistan’s Godfather, the US. After almost doing a perfect slavish jobs for Americans the Pakistani establishment can expect this sort of reward very soon from their paying lords in the future;








In this allegorical video clip one can assign the fictional characters to some of the real characters of this region in \a following manner;


Gabbar Singh: US

The Three Condemned Executed Henchmen of Gabbar Singh The Great: Three famous characters of Pakistani establishment, Army (Kaalia) bureaucrats and cohesive rotten ruling elite of Pakistan.

The Audience of this Whole Account: American allies from the eastern and western regions of the world

Sambha: The IMF and World Bank to tell the worth of their evil master Gabbar Singh aka USA.
 
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