Aapas Ki Baat - 12th April 2011 - Army & ISI Are Supporting Imran Khan For Next PM!!

usm100

Minister (2k+ posts)
Nothing will change. once a person goes offtrack its difficult to come back. He has started to lie and he has started to be mouka parast and there is nothing good in it.
So unfortunate, yes he had betrayed very badly, but still I don't know, why i AM HOPEFUL, HE MIGHT RECONSIDER HIS DECISION, ALL HE HAS TO DO IS TO STAY STAND ON HIS PREVIOUS STAND, WHICH WE AS SUPPORTERS BACKED HIM.
 

redaxe

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
agar army nay hi imran khan ko select kerna tu hum kyun itni jaan maar rahay hain .imran khan dont need army to come . he can do it on his own

Can or Can't is out of debate in this context, He himself should not compromise his principles otherwise what will be the point of his government anyway, we are hoping that he will come to correct these things. He can't kill the Genii while sitting on Genii's shoulder??? I hope you guys are getting my point.


One thing is certain, Good Objective do not make a wrong action correct.
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Still , I will be thankful to Military, if they picked IK this time.

Last time they picked Nawaz , the most corrupt untrained person.

BB was also their choice with Zardari .

This time they picked Zardari with NRO.

The NRO was among zardari and Military actually not Mushraf.

But , Gen . Kiani looks honest to counrty , more than others.... The next batches are better actually.

So , IK is better choice.

Our Country is so badly disfigured in the past and present that it will take loots of steps to become healed up ,if treated.

It is people of Pakistan defeat again that they could not identify and support an honest man , and finally military has to take step.
 
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Zameer Uddin

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
@Usm 100

how could you say that Imran Khan is off track infact ISI and Army is on the right track now and following the path of Imran Khan, you are expecting change from NRO benefeciries and credit card theives.

Nothing will change. once a person goes offtrack its difficult to come back. He has started to lie and he has started to be mouka parast and there is nothing good in it.
 

usm100

Minister (2k+ posts)
Army has never ever been on tracck . What ever they have planned good for pakistan has always had consiquences and all the nation had to pay. What do they loose nothing. ANd in case of Imran, he already have changed all his previous thoughts. Like he is not criticizing MQM at all even when report told every one most of the target killers are from mqm. This inn itself tells us how much it has been changed. For Imran the killing of innocent pakistanis on the streets of karachi does not mean anything just cause he wants to get close to them? Isnt it hypocracy.
@Usm 100

how could you say that Imran Khan is off track infact ISI and Army is on the right track now and following the path of Imran Khan, you are expecting change from NRO benefeciries and credit card theives.
 

mjzafar

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Are tables turned?

Excuse me..... so you are trying to say MQM was/is not an establishment party? Yes, PPP and ANP were and are not.... but for your kind information, if you don't mind, MQM is an establishment party - totally created by establishment (Zia's time) and is still an establishment party.

Just wanted to correct the fact.
Thanks!

There was time when nationalist parties used to be punished by the establishments and MQM, PPP and ANP (NAP) complained about them. Now, PML-N is complaining about them as Chaudhry Nisar mentioned in his speech about Raymond Davis case.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2011\04\12\story_12-4-2011_pg1_7

Also, is there any truth in Imran Khan dealing with the agencies as mentioned by Najam Sethi in his program.

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...amp-ISI-Are-Supporting-Imran-Khan-For-Next-PM!!

Did IK really met Musharraf and was telephonic conversation with Altaf Hussain was only possible with the help of establishment? Is that the reason PTI and MQM trying to avoid any REAL criticism of each other?
 

Zameer Uddin

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
@usm 100

Shahbaz Sharif met General Kayani and who took him no other than Chaudhry Nisar and the worst part was they completely denied the meeting, but when media caught them they accepted and even Nawaz Sharif criticized that.

PPP is in power today just because of Nawaz Sharif (Heart transplant), if he has so much love for the people of Pakistan, why doesn't he bring vote of no confidence against PM Gillani.

OOpar say larai
andar say Nawaz Zardari bhai bhai
 

arslan4u

Minister (2k+ posts)
So unfortunate, yes he had betrayed very badly, but still I don't know, why i AM HOPEFUL, HE MIGHT RECONSIDER HIS DECISION, ALL HE HAS TO DO IS TO STAY STAND ON HIS PREVIOUS STAND, WHICH WE AS SUPPORTERS BACKED HIM.
Please tell me what his previous stand was and whats his new stand because i havent heard anything regarding this.
 

usm100

Minister (2k+ posts)
Offcourse its wrong if they meet him and change any of there stance. Offcourse it was wrong for what they did in term of raymond davis of providing support to ISI and letting him go. Its all wrong.
When did i say its not wrong. And its just you and couple of more guys like arslan who when have no answer you start pointing the other to be nawaz supporter. Are you guys serious.
I mean if you dont have answer to what some one is asking that means the other is nawaz supporter? Does that make sense to you?
And if you guys have an answer of why Imran changed his stance against MQM in his recent shows? Why is he not criticizing now? Give me one video of Imran talking in the same tone as he used to before he had a conversation with him. Just one.
@usm 100

Shahbaz Sharif met General Kayani and who took him no other than Chaudhry Nisar and the worst part was they completely denied the meeting, but when media caught them they accepted and even Nawaz Sharif criticized that.

PPP is in power today just because of Nawaz Sharif (Heart transplant), if he has so much love for the people of Pakistan, why doesn't he bring vote of no confidence against PM Gillani.

OOpar say larai
andar say Nawaz Zardari bhai bhai
 

usm100

Minister (2k+ posts)
If you can be kind enough to give us one video where Imran criticizes MQM in the same tone as he use to do before. Just one video after his conversation with MQM.
Please tell me what his previous stand was and whats his new stand because i havent heard anything regarding this.
 

tijaz

MPA (400+ posts)
PTI does not need financial support from any agency. Why would it follow such a controversial path when it has used place itself in political arena as an independent party that cannot be influenced. It is well funded by monthly and one time voluntary donations from its members all over the world. All of its financial dealings and resources are available on its web site. Najam Sethi should be very careful in making such sweeping statements. He is clearly doing partisan journalism and politics, which can damage the country.
 

arslan4u

Minister (2k+ posts)
PTI does not need financial support from any agency. Why would it follow such a controversial path when it has used place itself in political arena as an independent party that cannot be influenced. It is well funded by monthly and one time voluntary donations from its members all over the world. All of its financial dealings and resources are available on its web site. Najam Sethi should be very careful in making such sweeping statements. He is clearly doing partisan journalism and politics, which can damage the country.
Najam Sethi got Hilal-e-Imtiaz for this kind of journalist, thats why he will keep doing it.
 

arslan4u

Minister (2k+ posts)
Offcourse its wrong if they meet him and change any of there stance. Offcourse it was wrong for what they did in term of raymond davis of providing support to ISI and letting him go. Its all wrong.
When did i say its not wrong. And its just you and couple of more guys like arslan who when have no answer you start pointing the other to be nawaz supporter. Are you guys serious.
I mean if you dont have answer to what some one is asking that means the other is nawaz supporter? Does that make sense to you?
And if you guys have an answer of why Imran changed his stance against MQM in his recent shows? Why is he not criticizing now? Give me one video of Imran talking in the same tone as he used to before he had a conversation with him. Just one.
If Imran Khan doesnt talk about MQM now its because MQM is a smaller problem, the biggest problem is the corrupt group that is destroying Pakistan's economy and sovereignty and they must be stopped first. MQM will be dealt with later, you shouldnt worry.
And dont try to hide your love for Nawaz Sharif, this neutrality act is old now. All your criticism is against Imran Khan and army, never for Nawaz Sharif. All your criticism is based on rumors and hearsay, no real facts.
 
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