A protest must be registered by us all.... On the proposed qur'aan burning day!

kashnex

Councller (250+ posts)
I firmly believe that we all Muslims should register our anger on the proposed remembrance of the 9/11 attacks by burning the Qur'aan by The Dove World Outreach Center (http://www.doveworld.org/). I am very much surprised that how could possibly this event be granted by the state and the US government. This will only incite the emotions of Muslims. I believe the governments all across the world must register their concern on this issue. They will burn the Qur'aan and it will ignite tension between the cultures. I have no doubt given the understanding on the severity of the issue the US government must stop this from happening. If this is let to happen I have no idea what it is going to be reaction of the Muslims around the world. I would be delighted to know your comments.
 
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Murshad Jee

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یہ ہمارے لئے لمحہ فکریہ ہے

بلکہ میں تو یہ کہوں گا کہ ہم ہی بے غیرت ہو چکے ہیں - ہمیں اپنی اپنی فکر پڑی ہے اور ہمارے دین اسلام کو ان کافروں نے یرغمال بنایا ہوا ہے . جو چاہتا ہے جس طرح چاہتا ہے ہمارے پیارے نبی (صلی الله علیھ وسلم) اور ہمارے اسلام کی بے عزتی کرتا رہتا ہے اور ہم زیادہ سے زیادہ اپنے ملکوں میں احتجاج کر کے چپ ہو جاتے ہیں

صرف ایک دفعہ اس ملک کے سفیر کو کہ جس ملک میں ہمارے اسلام کا مذاق اڑایا جاتا ہے بتا دیا جاے کہ ہم کیا کر سکتے ہے تو میرا یقین مانیے کہ اس طرح کی گستاخی کی کبھی بھی کوئی جرات نہیں کر سکتا

اب یہ جو امریکہ میں ہو رہا ہے اس کے لئے صرف یہ سرکاری طور پر اعلان کیا جائے کہ اگر ایسی کوئی گستاخی ہوئی تو پاکستان میں امریکہ کے سفیر کو زندہ جلا دیا جائے گا - پھر دیکھنا کہ کیسے یہ چپ ہوتے ہیں

ہمیں اپنی اہمیت کا احساس ہی نہیں ہے اور یہ کفّار ہماری اسی خاموشی کا فائدہ اٹھا رہے ہیں

اسی لئے تو ہمارے ملک میں عذاب پر عذاب آ رہا ہے

لعنت ہے ہماری اس طرح کی زندگی پر
 
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peace

Councller (250+ posts)
Brother defamation of Islam in one way or another seems to have caught pace now. First the head scarves issue, then cartoons, then the ground zero mosque and now this idiot needs his own publicity. I seriously believe the US govt can only be pressurized through its allies i.e. Saudis, Pakistan and other middle eastern countries. So far on that level we have utterly failed, I agree with you that it is now the responsibility of Muslim public to peacefully protest and condemn this act. I was really happy to see ICNA USA's response to this by setting up a booth and distributing free copies of Quran.

I would request all readers the best way to protest in my opinion is to join rallies in your cities or organize such rallies in their respective localities.
 
Join rallies...burn buses...break windows...burn tyres? Is that what you want? most muslims have not even heard of this day...you by posting this thread is giving free publicity to those idiots holding this event...if u had not posted it nobody woudl have known about it...the best way to deal withthese people is to ignore them. Someone said it rightly ignorance is bliss...
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Isn't burning of Qurans all over now because the promoting pastor has been arrested for child pornography?
 

Jinnah

Citizen
Join rallies...burn buses...break windows...burn tyres? Is that what you want? most muslims have not even heard of this day...you by posting this thread is giving free publicity to those idiots holding this event...if u had not posted it nobody woudl have known about it...the best way to deal withthese people is to ignore them. Someone said it rightly ignorance is bliss...

Ye ek alag baat he k ye khabar jhooti ho magar agar sach bhi ho to is beghairat insan k comments to parho k kia keh raha he.............Beghairat insan.........samajh raha he k kabutar ki tarah ankhen band kar k billi se bach jayega.......Bewaquf admi.......
 

Naima

Voter (50+ posts)
Dear members apni jaga per to we must protest against this..but remember...ye log QURAAN PAK k sath kuch ghalat karne ja rae hen..
imagine !!! muje to ye soch kar khof ata he k in logon k sath hoga kia ????
kia hashar kare gi WO ZAAT in logon ki JIS ne khud apni kitaab ki hifazat ka zima lia he..
my God..literally muje khof araha he ane wale waqt n azaab se jo is harkat k bad asakta he..
ALLAH rehem kare..ameen
 

Naima

Voter (50+ posts)
Join rallies...burn buses...break windows...burn tyres? Is that what you want? most muslims have not even heard of this day...you by posting this thread is giving free publicity to those idiots holding this event...if u had not posted it nobody woudl have known about it...the best way to deal withthese people is to ignore them. Someone said it rightly ignorance is bliss...
Mr. islambadi..
agar apki baat pe amal kiya jae to JIHAAD nam ki cheez khatam ho jae gi..q k ignore to phir HAR cheez ko kiya ja sakta he..
i agree with u k apne hi mulk ko nuqsan puhncha kar hamara protest successful nai ho sakta..but is ka hargiz ye matlab nai k ham ankhon aur kaanon pe kapra bandh kar so jaen..
thanks..
 

kashnex

Councller (250+ posts)
Join rallies...burn buses...break windows...burn tyres? Is that what you want? most muslims have not even heard of this day...you by posting this thread is giving free publicity to those idiots holding this event...if u had not posted it nobody woudl have known about it...the best way to deal withthese people is to ignore them. Someone said it rightly ignorance is bliss...

Did I say something like that....? Registering the protest does not necessarily mean that we break windows, burn tyres etc., what I meant was that we should pass our voice to the Government(s) and send a strong message to US in general and that church in particular that we are not sleeping. I think you haven't read and understood the context of my posting. I agree that this is not the right ways to protest but keeping silence is at its own worth is a SIN. How come we become so morons that whatever they want just impose on us. Do they only have lives, religious freedom? Indeed, everyone in this world has equal right to live his/her life according to their own wishes. I think you haven't heard much about it but remember Muslims and other people all over the world has condemned this act and asked to prevent this from happening. I don't how you infer that most Muslims have not even heard of this day. Oh come on! don't tell me that ..... "Ignorance is bliss" this is American quote and aimed at keep innocent people away from realizing the reality of what is going around them. I hope it might help you understand the severity of the issue.
 

biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Petraeus Condemns U.S. Church's Plan to Burn Qurans


By JULIAN E. BARNES And MATTHEW ROSENBERG

KABUL—The top U.S. commander in Afghanistan said the planned burning of Qurans on Sept. 11 by a small Florida church could put the lives of American troops in danger and damage the war effort.
Gen. David Petraeus said the Taliban would exploit the demonstration for propa****a purposes, drumming up anger toward the U.S. and making it harder for allied troops to carry out their mission of protecting Afghan civilians.
"It could endanger troops and it could endanger the overall effort," Gen. Petraeus said in an interview. "It is precisely the kind of action the Taliban uses and could cause significant problems. Not just here, but everywhere in the world we are engaged with the Islamic community."
Hundreds of Afghans attended a demonstration in Kabul on Monday to protest the plans of Florida pastor Terry Jones, who has said he will burn copies of Islam's holy book to mark the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Afghan protesters chanted "death to America," and speakers called on the U.S. to withdraw its troops. Some protesters threw rocks at a passing military convoy.

Military officials fear the protests will likely spread to other Afghan cities, especially if the event is broadcast or ends up on Internet video.
Mr. Jones, head of the 50-member Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Fla., said in a statement that "We understand the General's concerns. We are sure that his concerns are legitimate." Nonetheless, he added, "We must send a clear message to the radical element of Islam. We will no longer be controlled and dominated by their fears and threats."
Mr. Jones has been denied a permit for the demonstration, but has said he plans to go forward with the protest.
Rev. Stephanie Sapp, spokeswoman for the center, said no one from the Pentagon or other federal agencies had expressed concern or asked that the event be canceled. She did say that the Federal Bureau of Investigation had discussed security measures.
Pentagon officials said they were not aware that any Defense officials have reached out directly to Mr. Jones. But military officers said they hoped that Gen. Petraeus's statement—an unusual move since military commanders rarely get involved in politics—would convince Mr. Jones to change his plans.
Gen. Petraeus declined to elaborate on the nature of the threats or violence that could occur, but westerners in Afghanistan have been warned away from restaurants and other public places amid the rising tensions.
Other senior military leaders echoed Gen. Petraeus commentsMonday. Lt. Gen. William Caldwell, who oversees the effort to train Afghan security forces said he was informed of the planned Florida protests several days ago by a senior minister in the Afghan government.

Gen. Caldwell said many Afghans do not understand either the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment or the fact that President Barack Obama can't simply issue a decree to stop Mr. Jones from his demonstration. Military officials said they were not trying to deny Mr. Jones his right to free speech, but feared he was not thinking about the consequences of his actions.
"There is no question about First Amendment rights; that is not the issue," Gen. Caldwell said. "The question is: What is the implication over here? It is going to jeopardize the men and women serving in Afghanistan."

Military officials also fear that if video of the Quran burning is broadcast in Afghanistan, tensions could rise between NATO forces and the Afghan military and police. Allegations of mishandling the Quran have interrupted Afghan security training at least twice this year, Gen. Caldwell said.
In one instance, a Quran fell to the ground when an American officer opened a locker during an inspection of Afghan trainees' barracks. The rumor quickly spread that the officer had thrown it to the ground, angering the trainees at the camp. "He quickly apologized, but rumors took off like wildfire," Gen. Caldwell said. "It was so hard to get the misperception turned around we stopped all training for the rest of the day."
Reports about the Quran have set off violent protests before. A report in Newsweek, later retracted, that a U.S. interrogator at the Guantanamo Bay prison had flushed a Quran down a toilet set off riots in Afghanistan and elsewhere.
—Gary Fields in Washington contributed to this article.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703713504575475500753093116.html
 

JewayPakistan

MPA (400+ posts)
I firmly believe that we all Muslims should register our anger on the proposed remembrance of the 9/11 attacks by burning the Qur'aan by The Dove World Outreach Center (http://www.doveworld.org/). I am very much surprised that how could possibly this event be granted by the state and the US government. This will only incite the emotions of Muslims. I believe the governments all across the world must register their concern on this issue. They will burn the Qur'aan and it will ignite tension between the cultures. I have no doubt given the understanding on the severity of the issue the US government must stop this from happening. If this is let to happen I have no idea what it is going to be reaction of the Muslims around the world. I would be delighted to know your comments.
Yes we should and we should also sign at muslimpetition.org.They are compelling us towards 4th world war.
 
Ye ek alag baat he k ye khabar jhooti ho magar agar sach bhi ho to is beghairat insan k comments to parho k kia keh raha he.............Beghairat insan.........samajh raha he k kabutar ki tarah ankhen band kar k billi se bach jayega.......Bewaquf admi.......

Bayghairat tum ho...jao ja k bussen jalao...aur tyre jalao aur sheeshay toro...tum inn logon k isharon p naachney waley tatto ho...low life
 
Mr. islambadi..
agar apki baat pe amal kiya jae to JIHAAD nam ki cheez khatam ho jae gi..q k ignore to phir HAR cheez ko kiya ja sakta he..
i agree with u k apne hi mulk ko nuqsan puhncha kar hamara protest successful nai ho sakta..but is ka hargiz ye matlab nai k ham ankhon aur kaanon pe kapra bandh kar so jaen..
thanks..

Ye log confrontation chahtey he. Aap kiun nahi samajhti ..in logon ko lutf haasil hota hai by provoking Muslims. Abh kal ko ho sakta hai ye daily aisi harkatein karna shuru hojae to kia hum daily protests karna shuru hojae? Humari protests ne Denmark ka kia bigaar dia tha? Jahan pehley woh cartoons shaya huwei thay? Amkreeka mein Iss event k baad bhi ye sab low class Muslims AMrikan vison k liye line mein kharen nazar aengey...low lifes...
 

HarrisS

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Treat these people as you would treat a barking dog. Why must we bark back and give a dog something more to bark at? They are doing it for attention and you sheeple are playing in their hands by promoting them.

The above poster who recommends burning the ambassador in retaliation is a freaking moron. Simple as that!!!
It is NOT the government of U.S.A doing that but a private entity, protected by the freedom of expression which happens to be the corner stone of the U.S constitution.

Another poster said it correctly. Go out and burn the buses, break windows and stop hard working shopkeepers from opening their shops. May be that will satisfy your idiocy.
 

kashnex

Councller (250+ posts)
Treat these people as you would treat a barking dog. Why must we bark back and give a dog something more to bark at? They are doing it for attention and you sheeple are playing in their hands by promoting them.
The above poster who recommends burning the ambassador in retaliation is a freaking moron. Simple as that!!!
It is NOT the government of U.S.A doing that but a private entity, protected by the freedom of expression which happens to be the corner stone of the U.S constitution.
Another poster said it correctly. Go out and burn the buses, break windows and stop hard working shopkeepers from opening their shops. May be that will satisfy your idiocy.

FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION: A CORNER STONE OF US THE CONSTITUION.... What a joke!
What about Germans? where saying something about Hitler is a CRIME (an ultimate imprisonment) and several others example are there. So where is the freedom of expression?I would be delighted to know if you can provide me any reference which gives me some idea that freedom of expression accumulates to disregard others religion and their believes? I would appreciate.

Don't forget your roots Harris bhai, remember that you's first a Muslim and then anything else. Since I can see that you're in US then it's ultimate that you will say against the concerned by other siasat.pk fellows. OK! I accept your statement that the freedom of expression is prime for Americans so we are also have the right to express our anger (don't you think that we have the same right?). One very important thing for your kind attention, please have a look onto this video. http://news.yahoo.com/video/world-15749633/dining-room-table-turned-race-car-21777952#video=21798372

Tell me honestly, what do you feel in your heart?
 
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kashnex

Councller (250+ posts)
Ye log confrontation chahtey he. Aap kiun nahi samajhti ..in logon ko lutf haasil hota hai by provoking Muslims. Abh kal ko ho sakta hai ye daily aisi harkatein karna shuru hojae to kia hum daily protests karna shuru hojae? Humari protests ne Denmark ka kia bigaar dia tha? Jahan pehley woh cartoons shaya huwei thay? Amkreeka mein Iss event k baad bhi ye sab low class Muslims AMrikan vison k liye line mein kharen nazar aengey...low lifes...

Their efforts to confront us has become enormous because they have now understood that we can't do anything to them that's why they always try to incite us by doing something rubbish. Remember, if they are given tough time once, they will never dare to do it again. Only thing we need is to show respect to ourselves and towards religion then no one can dare inciting us. Have you realized that what ex-UK PM Blair said recently: "Invade Iran." just only for what they have made quite a long time. Their lives are lives, their religion is religion, their voices are voices and others nothing. Oh Come on .... ! at one side PEACE, LOVE, HARMONY and incitement on the other. Kool man....!
I honestly, believe that they are ruling us just because of our own weakness otherwise, what is special in them ...? How much pain we feel, they will the same. We have same physical characteristics as they have then what is special. Do they have more rights than other nations? Just ask this question from you. May Allah give you more understanding, Ameen!
 

HarrisS

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION: A CORNER STONE OF US THE CONSTITUION.... What a joke!
What about Germans? where saying something about Hitler is a CRIME (an ultimate imprisonment) and several others example are there. So where is the freedom of expression?I would be delighted to know if you can provide me any reference which gives me some idea that freedom of expression accumulates to disregard others religion and their believes? I would appreciate.

Don't forget your roots Harris bhai, remember that you's first a Muslim and then anything else. Since I can see that you're in US then it's ultimate that you will say against the concerned by other siasat.pk fellows. OK! I accept your statement that the freedom of expression is prime for Americans so we are also have the right to express our anger (don't you think that we have the same right?). One very important thing for your kind attention, please have a look onto this video. http://news.yahoo.com/video/world-15749633/dining-room-table-turned-race-car-21777952#video=21798372

Tell me honestly, what do you feel in your heart?

Bhai why are you equating U.S with Germany? They were two different countries with two different laws last I checked. You can praise Hitler, celebrate his birthday in public or walk on the street saluting him in the U.S and you will be protected under freedom of expression.

And don't act all goody goody with this issue. Blasphemy is a two way street my friend and Allah knows Muslims are as much responsible for hurting other people of faith as they are hurting ours. In this particular instance, I stand firm on my belief to ignore them as I would ignore a barking dog. Do you think all your protests and all your screaming will do anything? It will just give the perpetrators more pleasure. They want to hurt your feelings, you are playing straight into their hands.


You can do whatever you want. Set the entire world on fire in anger and still you won't be able to protect the book as well as Allah can. Remember he promises to do so?
 

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