1942: A Rare footage of Hur Freedom Movement in Sindh

mrk123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The brutal and pathetic british invaders are calling the people of the land fighting for their sovereignty bandits, gangsters and terrorist. Oh the irony!
 

ZenoInTheZoo

Minister (2k+ posts)
Hur bhi terrorist nikley(bigsmile)

The brutal and pathetic british invaders are calling the people of the land fighting for their sovereignty bandits, gangsters and terrorist. Oh the irony!

The video did not stop at calling them gangsters and terrorists. Did u notice the further twist? In the end they were Klu Klux Klan.......

They always love to define others and shape narratives..........and most of us in the Islam world have yet to realize this treeq-e- wardaat.....
 
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حکایت جنوں

Guest
The brutal and pathetic british invaders are calling the people of the land fighting for their sovereignty bandits, gangsters and terrorist. Oh the irony!

The video did not stop at calling them gangsters and terrorists. Did u notice the further twist? In the end they were Klu Klux Klan.......

They always love to define others and shape narratives..........and most of us in the Islam world have yet to realize this treeq-e- wardaat.....
The newscaster said that the Hur derailed the train. Now fighting for sovereignty can include derailing of train in which twenty two people are killed? Is it a terrorist act? Or the newscaster is lying and doing propaganda and these were British themselves who derailed the train to use the incident as a pretext for their operation on Hurs?
 

ZenoInTheZoo

Minister (2k+ posts)
The brutal and pathetic british invaders are calling the people of the land fighting for their sovereignty bandits, gangsters and terrorist. Oh the irony!

The newscaster said that the Hur derailed the train. Now fighting for sovereignty can include derailing of train in which twenty two people are killed? Is it a terrorist act? Or the newscaster is lying and doing propaganda and these were British themselves who derailed the train to use the incident as a pretext for their operation on Hurs?

@Junoon

Not sure about the veracity of the contents, so cant say anything.

But this video clip can definitely be used as good piece of rebuttal in any good talk in any gather of western academia or similar groups to show them the reality of their deep rooted mindset that shape such narratives.
 
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حکایت جنوں

Guest
@Junoon

Not sure about the veracity of the contents, so cant say anything.

But this video clip can definitely be used as good piece of rebuttal in any good talk in any gather of western academia or similar groups to show them the reality of their deep rooted mindset that shape such narratives.
But Pir of Pagara at that time was hanged due to his and his followers violent activities. Moreover Hurs are sufis, a religious group. Suppose, the incident is true then? Are they terrorists or freedom fighters?
 

rtabasum2

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The newscaster said that the Hur derailed the train. Now fighting for sovereignty can include derailing of train in which twenty two people are killed? Is it a terrorist act? Or the newscaster is lying and doing propaganda and these were British themselves who derailed the train to use the incident as a pretext for their operation on Hurs?

@Junoon

re about the veracity of the contents, so cant say anything.? a

But this video clip can definitely be used as good piece of rebuttal in any good talk in any gather of western academia or similar groups to show them the reality of their deep rooted mindset that shape such narratives.

Were they related to PIr Pagaro, if so than were they created by British? see how the colonial strategy still works in present world little refined plot but still the same old characters
 

dilavar

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Thank you very much for this rare footage - Gives a very unique insight into the colonial era !
 

mrk123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
But Pir of Pagara at that time was hanged due to his and his followers violent activities. Moreover Hurs are sufis, a religious group. Suppose, the incident is true then? Are they terrorists or freedom fighters?

Violent activities? They were struggling to free themselves from the occupiers. Why do you have any doubt that they were not freedom fighters and buying into most blatant and evident propaganda blitz. Klu Klux Klan of the NW??? Come on!

The civilized gora can declare any people of color as savage, bandit, terrorist or gangster because they dared to resist their occupation.

Hur is derived from hurriyat or freedom because they didn't want to be ruled by the British.

I don't know the details but the attack on the mail train may have been part of the guerrilla warfare. Who knows what that mail train was carrying - arms, ammunition, supplies that would have been used against the people by the british? The people on the mail train that were killed may have been the troops protecting the supplies. In that case the attack on the train would have been justified in my opinion.

This is the trait of the gora people. They have always controlled the narrative and always come across as self righteous to justify their excesses.

I still can't get over the KKK reference!
 
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حکایت جنوں

Guest
Violent activities? They were struggling to free themselves from the occupiers. Why do you have any doubt that they were not freedom fighters and buying into most blatant and evident propaganda blitz. Klu Klux Klan of the NW??? Come on!

The civilized gora can declare any people of color as savage, bandit, terrorist or gangster because they dared to resist their occupation.

Hur is derived from hurriyat or freedom because they didn't want to be ruled by the British.

I don't know the details but the attack on the mail train may have been part of the guerrilla warfare. Who knows what that mail train was carrying - arms, ammunition, supplies that would have been used against the people by the british? The people on the mail train that were killed may have been the troops protecting the supplies. In that case the attack on the train would have been justified in my opinion.

This is the trait of the gora people. They have always controlled the narrative and always come across as self righteous to justify their excesses.

I still can't get over the KKK reference!
Thanks! I expected the same answer from you. We should support every group of people fighting against the occupation of their land
 

rtabasum2

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Violent activities? They were struggling to free themselves from the occupiers. Why do you have any doubt that they were not freedom fighters and buying into most blatant and evident propaganda blitz. Klu Klux Klan of the NW??? Come on!

The civilized gora can declare any people of color as savage, bandit, terrorist or gangster because they dared to resist their occupation.

Hur is derived from hurriyat or freedom because they didn't want to be ruled by the British.

I don't know the details but the attack on the mail train may have been part of the guerrilla warfare. Who knows what that mail train was carrying - arms, ammunition, supplies that would have been used against the people by the british? The people on the mail train that were killed may have been the troops protecting the supplies. In that case the attack on the train would have been justified in my opinion.

This is the trait of the gora people. They have always controlled the narrative and always come across as self righteous to justify their excesses.

I still can't get over the KKK reference!

They were fighting for the freedom of their Pir nothing to be nostalgic about it
 

rtabasum2

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Violent activities? They were struggling to free themselves from the occupiers. Why do you have any doubt that they were not freedom fighters and buying into most blatant and evident propaganda blitz. Klu Klux Klan of the NW??? Come on!

The civilized gora can declare any people of color as savage, bandit, terrorist or gangster because they dared to resist their occupation.

Hur is derived from hurriyat or freedom because they didn't want to be ruled by the British.

I don't know the details but the attack on the mail train may have been part of the guerrilla warfare. Who knows what that mail train was carrying - arms, ammunition, supplies that would have been used against the people by the british? The people on the mail train that were killed may have been the troops protecting the supplies. In that case the attack on the train would have been justified in my opinion.

This is the trait of the gora people. They have always controlled the narrative and always come across as self righteous to justify their excesses.

I still can't get over the KKK reference!

It is people like Hurs that what Sind has been reduced too, bunch of pir n grave worshippers with no spine
 

mrk123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Were they related to PIr Pagaro, if so than were they created by British? see how the colonial strategy still works in present world little refined plot but still the same old characters


Yes, the guy who was hanged by the british was the father of Pir Pagaro (not the current one but the one before him) and the spiritual leader of Hurs. As in true gora way the british killed his father because he refused to bow and was resisting their rule and then took away his young son to wilayat and set him back on us. He didn't have iota of what his father had and paid back the goras by being the a brown master to the Hurs and the people of Pakistan.

According to some accounts Hur had fought alongside Syed Ahmed Shaheed against the sikhs and also took part in the 1965 war alongside the Pak army and the rangers on the southern front in West Pakistan.
 

rtabasum2

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Yes, the guy who was hanged by the british was the father of Pir Pagaro (not the current one but the one before him) and the spiritual leader of Hurs. As in true gora way the british killed his father because he refused to bow and was resisting their rule and then took away his young son to wilayat and set him back on us. He didn't have iota of what his father had and paid back the goras by being the a brown master to the Hurs and the people of Pakistan.

According to some accounts Hur had fought alongside Syed Ahmed Shaheed against the sikhs and also took part in the 1965 war alongside the Pak army and the rangers on the southern front in West Pakistan.

What was that all about?
 

ZenoInTheZoo

Minister (2k+ posts)
But Pir of Pagara at that time was hanged due to his and his followers violent activities. Moreover Hurs are sufis, a religious group. Suppose, the incident is true then? Are they terrorists or freedom fighters?

I don't think anyone can quote any campaign/struggle for rights wherein no innocent casualties except the struggle of our Prophet (PBUH), that is why there are strict rules which had been defined for all the times to come as the rules of enemy engagement.

But some struggles in history have so much burden of innocent lives on them that the balance of morality/moral verdict is against them. But I dont think Hur struggle was one of them. There may have some isolated instances of innocent causalities but for me it was a genuine struggle for independence of their land.

Have u ever wonder why outside subcontinent, Gandhi is well-known while Quaid MAJ is not despite being a constitutionalist of par excellence standing?
 

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