1942: A Rare footage of Hur Freedom Movement in Sindh

rtabasum2

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You have to broaden your horizon here :-)

I am being lazy and just quoting the most authentic of sources, wikipedia :-) But it gives you some basic facts. Hurs struggle against the British predates Muslim League or Congress or struggle for independent Pakistan. I am not sure why are you trying to put the guy in such a negative light. I am sure he must be doing something right for the goras to feel threatened and to hang him. Anyone fighting against the British rule is a hero to me even if his vision was just focused on freeing a small area and people living there.

By the way I am not sure where are you getting the idea of him trying to become a ruler of all of sindh, some british sources maybe?

Freedom Struggle[edit]

According to Lutaf Mangrio and Nadeem Wagan, "The Hur movement began with Sibghtullah Shah Badshah I [1831-1779] and reached its peak in days Sibghtullah Shah Shaheed Suraih Badshah, when the Hurs became active against their British rulers who imprisoned many in Vasarpur district Ahmed Nangar".[SUP][citation needed][/SUP]
Sibghatullah Shah 1 provided forces to Syed Ahmed Shaheed to fight against Sikhs and since then these people have been called "Hurs" [free people] The freedom struggle started by Syed Sibghtullah Shah Shaheed Awal in 1246 [Hijri].
Pagaras' and their followers fought against their British rulers for 108 years, from 1843 to 1951.



Wiki we cannot even use it as reference at undergraduate level in UK:) read this book if u hv the time
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I think u can find a link online as well
 

mrk123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
They were fighting for the freedom of their Pir nothing to be nostalgic about it

Our prejudices against the grave worshipers are showing a little, huh? :-) When Pushtuns fight against the invaders then they are the supreme freedom fighters even if they are fighting to free their land and as a result get to keep their 'primitive tribal way of life' but we can't accord the same privilege to a band of Sindhis fighting the same fight. Why do we have to see their struggle in a lesser light? Why do we need to find excuse to relegate their struggle as a band of blind murids doing the bidding of their Pir? At least Pir Sibghatullah didn't run away on a camel (because it would have been difficult to find a good reliable motorcycle in those times in Sindh :-)
 

mrk123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Wiki we cannot even use it as reference at undergraduate level in UK:)

I guess you missed the smiley and my attempt at some self deprecating humor. Its not humor when you have to explain it afterwards but just to be clear it was sarcasm on my part. I know just a little bit about wikipedia and its authenticity or authority :-)


read this book if u hv the time
41CckLEk4EL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
I think u can find a link online as well


Even after spending a good amount of time trying to find an online version I was not able to find one for this book. In fact not much on this book except a site that had some excerpts and list of content.

If you have a copy and you could share the relevant parts then it would be appreciated. I would like to know the sources of information for that book.
The British went after him and the Hurs with a vengeance so much so that they passed a law against the Hurs. I am sure that most of the material available
on him via the British sources must have been tainted against him and the movement as they pestered them for over a century. The tone and over the top senseless vitriol of this old footage gives it away. I can imagine what the British sources would have put down against him and how objective they would have been.

Khadim Hussain has written a book on him 'Freedom at the Gallows' which is a good resource. Unfortunately I can't find that book online either.

Anyway, one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist. He may not have been perfect or a saint (pun intended) but I would still respect him given that he was the son of the soil and was fighting against occupiers and foreign invaders.

I never liked the last Pir Pagara but its a fact that the Hurs fought alongside Pak army on the southern front in 1965 war - I am not sure if those grave and pir worshiping Hurs were fighting to establish Pir Pagara as the sole Pir of all of Sindh ;-)

Here are couple of links from the local sources:

http://www.dawn.com/news/307674/karachi-the-turbulent-life-and-times-of-sibghatullah-shah

Here is another book by Khadim Hussain - The Great Game and The Indus Civilization

http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/12402995/1648993613/name/The (read the part about Sindh and yes it does talk about the great Bacha Khan:)
 

rtabasum2

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I guess you missed the smiley and my attempt at some self deprecating humor. Its not humor when you have to explain it afterwards but just to be clear it was sarcasm on my part. I know just a little bit about wikipedia and its authenticity or authority :-)

Here is the link, she has good analysis worth spending some time even if u skim through
The conclusion part is worth reading rest is history n blah blah
http://lib.freescienceengineering.org/view.php?id=475782
 

mrk123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I guess you missed the smiley and my attempt at some self deprecating humor. Its not humor when you have to explain it afterwards but just to be clear it was sarcasm on my part. I know just a little bit about wikipedia and its authenticity or authority :-)

Here is the link, she has good analysis worth spending some time even if u skim through
The conclusion part is worth reading rest is history n blah blah
http://lib.freescienceengineering.org/view.php?id=475782

Thanks a lot!

You are a far better searcher than I am. I tried for a while to find it to no avail.

[Deleted my comment about the bibliography as I mistakenly took a list of books as the bibliography]
 
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