پاکستان میں مارشل لاء کا حقیقی خطرہ – خدارا ڈینائل موڈ سے نکلیں

chak14

MPA (400+ posts)
If Gen Bajwa is doing everything then why IK is openly taking ownership? For me I am not strong like IK but even I will be at IK's place if I can't make decision, I will resign but will ever take ownership of someone else's decisions. I am a strong believer that IK is not kind of person who will take dictation of Gen Bajwa unless he is convinced to do.
In fact, IK is hungry for fame. He should have resigned when NS was sent abroad by shameless Army/Agencies. His status would have gone up in the history of Pakistan who stood against unequal accountability. They way PTI govt was formed, it was doomed to be a failure. IK should never accepted such handicapped type govt. He was as desperate as BeNazir 1989.
 

chak14

MPA (400+ posts)
If they are able to manage all that from behind the screen , what makes you think they want to come to the front ?
These Generals now have become after what happened to Musharraf. They need a goat like IK or someone else to keep this circus going on.
 

chak14

MPA (400+ posts)
They always intervene . I have mentioned General's intervention in my blog.
When they did not intervene ?

By the way, Why would they need a letter or verbal request to intervene when they are indirectly controlling the system?
True. Who sent NS abroad. Was it IK? Not at all. It was our loyal Army and Agencies who are in fact puppet in the hands of America.
 

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If Gen Bajwa is doing everything then why IK is openly taking ownership? For me I am not strong like IK but even I will be at IK's place if I can't make decision, I will resign but will ever take ownership of someone else's decisions. I am a strong believer that IK is not kind of person who will take dictation of Gen Bajwa unless he is convinced to do.

Bajwa is not stupid that he is gonna give direct dictate to IK. I agree if IK feels that he is directly undermine, he would dissolve the assemblies and go for fresh elections.

So Bajwa is pulling strings on vital things, not on all things. He dare not give the impression to IK that he is not incharge.
IK also understands what games is played. He is also waiting patiently for them to make a false move. A chess game is played.

One thing gives me the proof needed , the return of Shahbaz.
I said 3/4 years ago to my wife, long before the elections when the courts made two very strange decision on the same day. One in the favour of Shahbaz and the other against IK.
I am sure, if i search i may find the post here on the forum too.
I said, today Shahbaz is saved for the future by the Army.
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Bajwa is not stupid that he is gonna give direct dictate to IK. I agree if IK feels that he is directly undermine, he would dissolve the assemblies and go for fresh elections.

So Bajwa is pulling strings on vital things, not on all things. He dare not give the impression to IK that he is not incharge.
IK also understands what games is played. He is also waiting patiently for them to make a false move. A chess game is played.

One thing gives me the proof needed , the return of Shahbaz.
I said 3/4 years ago to my wife, long before the elections when the courts made two very strange decision on the same day. One in the favour of Shahbaz and the other against IK.
I am sure, if i search i may find the post here on the forum too.
I said, today Shahbaz is saved for the future by the Army.
Please forgive me for not agreeing with u. If u can make a guess how come not IK.
May Allah protect us all from evils including criminals Amin.
 

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Please forgive me for not agreeing with u. If u can make a guess how come not IK.
May Allah protect us all from evils including criminals Amin.
you can have your opinion.
I tell u why not IK. Do you see what's happening to anyone opposing IK! See the media's downfall. Generals know, if they come in open, their credibility would be destroyed and people would not accept it. Let them make a move and we all would see the results. It is not easy to move IK, i can assure you.
 

Okara

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
you can have your opinion.
I tell u why not IK. Do you see what's happening to anyone opposing IK! See the media's downfall. Generals know, if they come in open, their credibility would be destroyed and people would not accept it. Let them make a move and we all would see the results. It is not easy to move IK, i can assure you.
To be honest time has changed and even few Generals tried, they will be defeated by the Pak Army itself. Yes we do have chain of command in Army but but with few exceptions most of the officers are very knowledgeable and they know since we have IK as our PM, we as a nation are respected all over the world which was not the case when corrupts were roaming in Pakistan.
I hope Pak Army Generals won't behave stupidly as they wont be able to survive in this current Pakistan.
 

Syed Haider Imam

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Haider Sb,
No matter who forced IK but at the end of the day it was IK's decision. In case he was not in favor of extension then he was having an option called resignation.

Leader's do not think like an ordinary person.
Let's agree to disagree brother.
 

Syed Haider Imam

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
True. Who sent NS abroad. Was it IK? Not at all. It was our loyal Army and Agencies who are in fact puppet in the hands of America.

Brother, We do not drag "Army" as an institution into filthy politics.
Army is discipline under the command of Army Chief. As an institution, this is their strongest and weakest point as well.
Our issue is " Fauji Foundation " waley who are running their business empire. They are also running Pakistan as their business empire. We all love and respect our Army as an institution. Please desist and do not drag them into the discussion.
 

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