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[arafay]

No, leave them alone. Don't give them a free hand to enter every institution openly.
Obviously no one is going to treat them as muslims and that's been declared almost 50 years ago. No need to dance again.

The only one dancing is you with your vague statements like the one below.
"Don't give them a free hand to enter every institution openly."

Is it okay to let qadiani enter institutions secretly but not openly? or should we allow them in some institutions and not others? What exactly is the plan here? Is there a list institutions that pakistani maulvis have prepared?

Also how are other Muslim countries dealing with qadianis in their respective countries? Are there any models from muslim world that you recommend for Pakistan?

This qadiani issue needs to sorted asap. Only thing that has been finalized so far is that qadianis are non muslims/kafirs. However, there are now thousands of qadianis living in the country. The burning issue now is to settle the relationship of qadiani people with Pakistani state because it seems maulvis do not want to give them same rights as other minorities. Every time govt tries to resolve this issue, maulvis start shouting qadiani agent.

Instead of jumping and shouting, maulvis should come up with an alternative set of rights and responsibilities for qadinis and work on getting it passed from parliament. This is how amendment to declare qadiani non mulsim was passed in 1973.

The main questions to be decided are the following.

1) what constitutional rights do qadianis get in Pakistan. eg. freedom of religion
2) what constitutional rights qadianis do NOT get in pakistan. eg. enlisting in army
3) what the State of pakistan demands from qadianis in return of ensured in question (1). eg. income tax, sales tax etc.

Just dancing and name calling will not solve this problem.

 

[Oldwish]

The only one dancing is you with your vague statements like the one below.
"Don't give them a free hand to enter every institution openly."

Is it okay to let qadiani enter institutions secretly but not openly? or should we allow them in some institutions and not others? What exactly is the plan here? Is there a list institutions that pakistani maulvis have prepared?

Also how are other Muslim countries dealing with qadianis in their respective countries? Are there any models from muslim world that you recommend for Pakistan?

This qadiani issue needs to sorted asap. Only thing that has been finalized so far is that qadianis are non muslims/kafirs. However, there are now thousands of qadianis living in the country. The burning issue now is to settle the relationship of qadiani people with Pakistani state because it seems maulvis do not want to give them same rights as other minorities. Every time govt tries to resolve this issue, maulvis start shouting qadiani agent.

Instead of jumping and shouting, maulvis should come up with an alternative set of rights and responsibilities for qadinis and work on getting it passed from parliament. This is how amendment to declare qadiani non mulsim was passed in 1973.

The main questions to be decided are the following.

1) what constitutional rights do qadianis get in Pakistan. eg. freedom of religion
2) what constitutional rights qadianis do NOT get in pakistan. eg. enlisting in army
3) what the State of pakistan demands from qadianis in return of ensured in question (1). eg. income tax, sales tax etc.

Just dancing and name calling will not solve this problem.

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No it's not ok, they are enemies of the muslims. They must not be given a free hand. If they want to be accepted as a minority they have to accept they are non muslims period.

 

[Oldwish]

Frustration aap logon mein hai. Jo marzi karlo aap log, Jo bhi apnay aap ko Musalmaan kahay ga usay jaahil moulvi types kabhi kafir nahin bana saktay. Yeh Allah ka faisla hai kon Muslim hai aur kon nahin.
Ahmadis are in fact accepted everywhere as Muslims, they go for Hajj and Umrah, and are growing in large numbers even in Arab countries where people have begun to wake up and question the absurd claims made by jaahil moulvis, giving up the silly interpretations of Islam and shunning the extremist ideologies like kafir this, kafir that and seeing what happens when they follow 'sarkari muslaman moulvis' in the form of daesh/isis. I guess it hurts you given how much hatred you have but you can't escape from the facts.

Khatam e nabuwat is the defining line. If you do not accept the finality of the Prophet Muhammad pbuh then you have no right to call yourself a muslim PERIOD.

 

[debugz]

Khatam e nabuwat is the defining line. If you do not accept the finality of the Prophet Muhammad pbuh then you have no right to call yourself a muslim PERIOD.

According to whom? You or the Killer, crazed mullahs that have poisoned the nation? I have a right to accept and believe in what I see as the truth. The 'bad tareen makhlooq in the world' as foretold by Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW certainly have no right to tell who's Muslim and not.
First reform yourself. Read. Study and pray. Instead of dishing out judgements on who's Muslim and who is not.
Or You can remain in your ignorant world while Ahmadis go on, spreading true Islam.

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