This is stupid, Qadiani se muslim ko preshani kiunke woh muslim nooni hy. ? Can't beat that logic.
مرزائیوں کو اقلیتی حقوق دینے کے حکومتی فیصلہ پر اسلام پسندوں کا نکتہ نظر
- Thread starter tarzanfaridi
- Start date
These are our issues, ummahs issues.
It's not qadinies business. You stick to your Mirza.
I can only admire your innocence if its really innocence.
If you heard ibtesam Elahi sahib he already answer your question.
Counterfeit, 2 number, fake etc products are not accepted.
You are absolutely right. This is what we are talking about. These qadianies dont accept them as non muslims . The government knows this and has given them a green light to damage what ever is left of Pakistan.
They are a counterfeit, 2 number, fake brand. They can not be allowed as a product of same value. No one says they are not humans.
Are you sleep walking or brain dead? Christian's, Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists etc are accepted as minorities without any objection! Right? If you dont understand this then do ask an adult.
تمہاری سوچ اور کم علمی پہ افسوس ہی کیا جا سکتا ہے اپنی اسلام دشمنی سے باہر نکل کر اسلام کے بارے میں صیح معلومات حاصل کرو
ts_rana
Minister (2k+ posts)
Khuda behtar janta hai ke kon dushman hai aur kon nahi aur ham apne muamlat khuda per hi chorte hain.
mirza sb ka khudaa ki taraf se nabuwwat ke milne ka dawaa jhoota tha. agar sacha hota to us ka aaj bhi koi saboot hota magar nahin hai. ye dawa bilkul ussi tarah jhoota saabit kiya jaa sakta hai jaise deegar mazaahib ke bebunyaad dawe keh woh khudaa ki taraf se hen.
is liye keh un ke paas quraan jaisi koi kitaab hi nahin hai. agarche qadiyani hazraat quraan ko maanane ka dawa karte hen magar quraan to mirza sb per nahin utaara gayaa woh to un ki paidaash se be bahot pehle ka is duniya main mojood hai.
mirza sb per kon si wahee utri zaraa woh to qadiyani hazraat khudaa ka kalaam saabit karen. issi baat per faisla ho jaata hai keh mirza sb sache the apane dawe main ya jhoote.
quraan ko maanane ka dawa kerne waala koi aik shakhs bhi agar dawae nabuwwat kare to woh us ko kabhi saabit ker hi nahin sakta. ye hai quraan ki sachayee ka jeeta jaagta saboot keh keh ye khudaa ka naazil karda hai.
For a detailed explanation of things about the quran, deen of islam and pakistan see HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE and HERE.
No doubt, we all must judge opinions of each other to come to realise what is actually true and what is actually right. However before we do that we must learn the quran properly ourselves or shooting at each other in the dark is in no way any service to the mission assigned by the quran.
is liye keh un ke paas quraan jaisi koi kitaab hi nahin hai. agarche qadiyani hazraat quraan ko maanane ka dawa karte hen magar quraan to mirza sb per nahin utaara gayaa woh to un ki paidaash se be bahot pehle ka is duniya main mojood hai.
mirza sb per kon si wahee utri zaraa woh to qadiyani hazraat khudaa ka kalaam saabit karen. issi baat per faisla ho jaata hai keh mirza sb sache the apane dawe main ya jhoote.
quraan ko maanane ka dawa kerne waala koi aik shakhs bhi agar dawae nabuwwat kare to woh us ko kabhi saabit ker hi nahin sakta. ye hai quraan ki sachayee ka jeeta jaagta saboot keh keh ye khudaa ka naazil karda hai.
For a detailed explanation of things about the quran, deen of islam and pakistan see HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE and HERE.
Khatm-e-Nabowat wa Tehreek-e-Ahmadiat : Allama Ghulam Ahmed Parwez : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
Khatm-e-Nabowat wa Tehreek-e-Ahmadiat by G A Parwez Published by tulueislam. Reality of qadyaaniat or Ahmadiat.
archive.org
No doubt, we all must judge opinions of each other to come to realise what is actually true and what is actually right. However before we do that we must learn the quran properly ourselves or shooting at each other in the dark is in no way any service to the mission assigned by the quran.
Last edited:
azeezam behnam sb, is duniya main sirf aur sirf wohee shakhs asal musalmaan hai jo dil se haq ya sach ki talaash main hai aur us ko paane ke liye apni taraf se poori poori mehnat karta hai apni khudadaad salahiyatoon ke mutaabiq. baaqi sab apne apne gumaan main musalmaan hen warna aaj insaanu ki is duniya main ye haalat na hoti agar woh quraan ko theek tarah se samajh ker us per amal ker rahe hote.
regards and all the best.
azeezam karachi waala sb, baghair daleel ke kisi baat ko maanana ya na maanana dono baaten quraan ki roshni main ghalat maloom hoti hen. quraan khud bhi dalaail deta hai aur doosrun se bhi dalaail maangta hai aur logon ko un baatun se door rehne ko kehta hai jin ka un ko ilm na ho jab tak un ka ilm woh haasil na kar len. lihaaza quran ki roshni main zaroori hai jo jiye daleel se jiye aur jo mare daleel se mare. in baatun ke mutaliq poochha jaaye ga.
regards and all the best.
The nation where a 'sarkari musalman' moulvi calls the entire nation as besharam, bahaya, chor, badmaash, haram khor, is out in force to label other groups as good or bad Muslims or even if someone is a Muslim. If one looks at deeds, then majority of this jaahil nation is in fact non Muslim.
Rahi baat khatme nabuwat ki, to jakar apnay moulvioun kay ustadon ki kitabein parho jis mein woh bhi yehi opinion rakhtay hein ke khatam ka maina Urdu wala akhri/khatam nahin hai.
Bhai Logo. Pehli hi Allah ka azaab sar par hai. Aur apni jahalat say Allah ko naraz na karo key jis baat ka ilm nahin, us kay baray mein behas mein paro.
Rahi baat khatme nabuwat ki, to jakar apnay moulvioun kay ustadon ki kitabein parho jis mein woh bhi yehi opinion rakhtay hein ke khatam ka maina Urdu wala akhri/khatam nahin hai.
Bhai Logo. Pehli hi Allah ka azaab sar par hai. Aur apni jahalat say Allah ko naraz na karo key jis baat ka ilm nahin, us kay baray mein behas mein paro.
Regardless of sarkari or ghair sarkari, regardless of azab or no azab qadianies are non muslims. Mirza was a kizzab a lair.
And you are God's appointed representative? Lagay raho apni isi jahalat mein.
ok mirza is a liar but what do govt do with his followers in pakistan?
1) Kill them all?
2) Throw them out of pakistan?
3) Treat them as non muslims?
Clearly any sane Muslim would go with 3rd option.
No, leave them alone. Don't give them a free hand to enter every institution openly.
Obviously no one is going to treat them as muslims and that's been declared almost 50 years ago. No need to dance again.
That's a stupid statement, I guess you are frustrated.
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know some one claiming to be a prophet after Muhammad PBUH is a kafir.
Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
A big and ever growing number of Muslims, including me do not believe in this. What about us then.
Frustration aap logon mein hai. Jo marzi karlo aap log, Jo bhi apnay aap ko Musalmaan kahay ga usay jaahil moulvi types kabhi kafir nahin bana saktay. Yeh Allah ka faisla hai kon Muslim hai aur kon nahin.
Ahmadis are in fact accepted everywhere as Muslims, they go for Hajj and Umrah, and are growing in large numbers even in Arab countries where people have begun to wake up and question the absurd claims made by jaahil moulvis, giving up the silly interpretations of Islam and shunning the extremist ideologies like kafir this, kafir that and seeing what happens when they follow 'sarkari muslaman moulvis' in the form of daesh/isis. I guess it hurts you given how much hatred you have but you can't escape from the facts.
It's up to you what to believe in. No one has the right to say that you are not allowed to believe in whatever you want to believe in. That is the issue. It's not about who is going to heaven or hell or right or wrong or if someone is Muslim or not. That's for God alone to decide.
The sad thing is that the very people who are rotten to the core in terms of their deeds have the gall to deem others non Muslim.
Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
That's rich coming from a people who don't consider us as Muslims.
