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علامہ طاہر القادری کی جان کو خطرہ
دسمبر 2010 کی کرسمس تقریب میں خطاب کرتے ہوئے علامہ نے عیسائیوں اور یہودیو ں اور دوسرے اہل کتاب کو کافر قرار دینے منع کیا تو یہ جوش خطابت بریلوی اور دوسرے فرقوں کو اس حد تک ناگوار گزرا کہ انہوں نے نا صرف علامہ اور انکے ماننے والوں کو قرار دیا "کافر" بلکہ اب تو وزارت داخلہ نے بھی مان لیا ہے کہ علامہ کی زندگی خطرے میں ہے۔ اس خبر نے ایک بار پھر فتوے بازی کے شر اور اظہار رائے کی آزادی کا پول کھول دیا ہے۔
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Tahir Qadri changes his color like lizard.
When in Paksitan, he talks about Islam, and when in England he criticizes Islamic rules.
He follows the policy, "Do in Rome, what the Roman do"
Tahir Qadri has earned lot of money in England for composing Fatwas of West interests.
 

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guzishta 20 sal say yeh apni zindagi ko khatray ka drama kar k kaee bar mulk say ja chuka hai

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esko kia khatra hoga abb tu yeh murday ko kalma parhanay laga hai


 

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Its absolutely permissible to make dead person recite Kalima as dead can hear . It is proven in prophetic Hadith traditions and Dr.Tahir-ul-Qadri has done this in accordance with Hadith.

read complete clarification here http://www.thefatwa.com/urdu/questionID/1041


بعد اَز تدفین تلقین کے بارے میں فرامینِ رسول صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم

For Profs Read Sunan Ibn e Majah,Sunan Nasai,Al-Muhjam al-Kabir Tabrani,Imam Jalal ud din Sayuti,Kanz ul Amal,Ibne Rajab al-Hanbali,Ibn Abideen Shami,Mullah Ali Qadri,Imam Abu Dawood,
 
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Its absolutely permissible to make dead person recite Kalima as dead can hear . It is proven in prophetic Hadith traditions and Dr.Tahir-ul-Qadri has done this in accordance with Hadith.

read complete clarification here http://www.thefatwa.com/urdu/questionID/1041


بعد اَز تدفین تلقین کے بارے میں فرامینِ رسول صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم

For Profs Read Sunan Ibn e Majah,Sunan Nasai,Al-Muhjam al-Kabir Tabrani,Imam Jalal ud din Sayuti,Kanz ul Amal,Ibne Rajab al-Hanbali,Ibn Abideen Shami,Mullah Ali Qadri,Imam Abu Dawood,

tahir-ul-qadri is doing nothing but reviving a biddat. The hadeeths quoted in above fatwa can only be used to advise a person to recite Kalima on the dead bed (while still alive), not after a person death.

Lets see what Quraan says on this issue:

There are two unequivocal (
غَیر مُبہَم) texts from the Qur'an which deny the possibility of the dead in their graves possessing the faculty of hearing. Allah, the Blessed and Exalted, states :


إِنَّكَ لَا تُسْمِعُ الْمَوْتَىٰ وَلَا تُسْمِعُ الصُّمَّ الدُّعَاءَ إِذَا وَلَّوْا مُدْبِرِينَ [Surah an-Naml 27:80]
Yusuf Ali 80: Truly thou canst not cause the dead to listen, nor canst thou cause the deaf to hear the call, (especially) when they turn back in retreat.
البتہ تو مردوں کو نہیں سنا سکتا اور نہ بہروں کو اپنی پکارسنا سکتا ہے جب وہ پیٹھ پھیر کر لوٹیں

[Surah Fatir 35:22] وَمَا يَسْتَوِي الْأَحْيَاءُ وَلَا الْأَمْوَاتُ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُسْمِعُ مَن يَشَاءُ ۖ وَمَا أَنتَ بِمُسْمِعٍ مَّن فِي الْقُبُورِ
Yusuf Ali 22: Nor are alike those that are living and those that are dead. Allah can make any that He wills to hear; but thou canst not make those to hear who are (buried) in graves.
اور زندے اور مردے برابر نہیں ہیں بے شک الله سناتا ہے جسے چاہے اور آپ انہیں سنانے والے نہیں جو قبروں میں ہیں
In the first verse Allah addresses His messenger, Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وسلم), reminding him that he cannot make the disbelievers hear the invitation to Islam, for they are like the dead, who do not hear either. In the second verse Allah points to the difference between the living and the dead - they are not all alike. He further clarifies to His prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) that he cannot make the rejectors of faith hear the message (for they are dead in heart and in spirit) any more than he (صلى الله عليه وسلم) can make those in the graves hear what is spoken to them!
 
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if you are not blind i have quted hadiths related to advising a person to recite Kalima on the dead bed while still alive), as well as when he is inside the grave.


Dead Can Listen - Authentic Hadith


Anas b. Malik reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: When the dead body is placed in the grave, he listens to the sound of the shoes (as his friends and relatives return after burying him).

[Sahih Muslim Book 040, Hadith Number 6863]

Its absolutely permissible to make dead person recite Kalima as dead can hear . It is proven in prophetic Hadith traditions and Dr.Tahir-ul-Qadri has done this in accordance with Hadith.

read complete clarification here http://www.thefatwa.com/urdu/questionID/1041


بعد اَز تدفین تلقین کے بارے میں فرامینِ رسول صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم

For Profs & References Read Sunan Ibn e Majah,Sunan Nasai,Al-Muhjam al-Kabir Tabrani,Imam Jalal ud din Sayuti,Kanz ul Amal,Ibne Rajab al-Hanbali,Ibn Abideen Shami,Mullah Ali Qadri,Imam Abu Dawood,

 

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There are several proofs from Quran and authentic hadiths that those muslims who are in graves and Prophets [Peace be upon them] can not only hear but even reply from the grave and also become a Waseela. It is proven from authentic hadiths that even Non muslims can hear in graves but do not have capability to reply.


Proof from Al Quran # 1


Quran states:
So Salih left them, saying: "O my people! I did indeed convey to you the message for which I was sent by my Lord: I gave you good counsel, but ye love not good counselors!"(Quran 7:79)
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Here Salih (a.s) is addressing his dead people who had already been destroyed
, had dead not heard then Nauzobillah this ayah of Quran would have been illogical, secondly what is the meaning of Salih (a.s)'s address?

Tafsir Ibn Kathir states under this ayah


هذا تقريع من صالح عليه السلام لقومه، لما أهلكهم الله بمخالفتهم إياه، وتمردهم على الله، وإبائهم عن قبول الحق، وإعراضهم عن الهدى إلى العمى، قال لهم صالح ذلك بعد هلاكهم، تقريعاً وتوبيخاً، وهم يسمعون ذلك، كما ثبت في الصحيحين: أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم لما ظهر على أهل بدر،


Translation:
These were the words of admonishment which Salih exchanged with his nation after “ALLAH HAD DESTROYED THEM” for denying Him and also becoming renegades against Him, rejecting to accept the Haqq (truth) plus giving preference to misguidance over guidance. Hadrat Salih (a.s) said these words after they were “DESTROYED AND THEY HEARD THE WORDS TOO” In relevance to this It is narrated in the 2 books of Sahih (i.e. Bukhari and Muslim) that the Messenger (saw) defeated the kufaar in Badr … [then Imam Ibn Kathir mentions the sahih hadith in which Prophet clearly said that they (dead) hear better than you (alive)

[Tafsir Ibn Kathir under 7:79]

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Proof # 2 from Quran


Quran states: Lo! those who ward off , when a glamour from the devil troubleth them, they do but remember (Allah's Guidance) and behold them seers! (Quran 7:201).

Imam Ibn Kathir (rah) narrates under this ayah:.


أن شاباً كان يتعبد في المسجد، فهويته امرأة، فدعته إلى نفسها، فما زالت به حتى كاد يدخل معها المنزل، فذكر هذه الآية: { إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ ٱتَّقَوْاْ إِذَا مَسَّهُمْ طَـٰئِفٌ مِّنَ ٱلشَّيْطَـٰنِ تَذَكَّرُواْ فَإِذَا هُم مُّبْصِرُونَ ** فخر مغشياً عليه، ثم أفاق فأعادها، فمات، فجاء عمر، فعزى فيه أباه، وكان قد دفن ليلاً، فذهب فصلى على قبره بمن معه، ثم ناداه عمر فقال: يا فتى

{ وَلِمَنْ خَافَ مَقَامَ رَبِّهِ جَنَّتَانِ **
فأجابه الفتى من داخل القبر: يا عمر قد أعطانيهما ربي عز وجل في الجنة مرتين..


Translation:
A young boy used to do (a lot) of worship in Masjid, however one woman fell in love with him and she started to attract him towards herself until one day he got persuaded and came to her house, but he recalled this ayah: { Lo! those who ward off , when a glamour from the devil troubleth them, they do but remember (Allah's Guidance) and behold them seers**, he fainted right over there, when he recovered he remembered the ayah again and fainted once again but this time he passed away. After his death Sayyidna Umar (ra) met his father being saddened at his death, (the boy) was buried during night, Umar (ra) took his companions along and visited his grave, he prayed there and “Called the Boy” saying: Whosoever feared to stand in front of his Lord then there are 2 gardens for him! Voice came from the grave O (YA) Omar (ra) Allah has granted me both the gardens

[Tafsir Ibn Kathir,Under 7:201]

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Proofs from Authentic Hadiths :


Hadith #1


"The Messenger of Allah spoke to the People (buried) in the Well saying: "Have you found out that what your Lord had promised you is true?" then someone exclaimed: "Are you calling out to the dead!" The Prophet replied: "You do not hear better than they do, except they do not respond."

(Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 23, Number 452)



Hadith #2


Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) let the dead bodies of the unbelievers who fought in Badr (lie unburied) for three days. He then came to them and sat by their side and called them and said: O Abu Jahl b. Hisham, O Umayya b. Khalaf, O Utba b. Rab'ila, O Shaiba b. Rabi'a, have you not found what your Lord had promised with you to be correct? As for me, I have found the promises of my Lord to be (perfectly) correct. Umar listened to the words of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Allah's Messenger, how do they listen and respond to you? They are dead and their bodies have decayed. Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: By Him in Whose Hand is my life, what I am saying to them, even you cannot hear more distinctly than they, but they lack the power to reply. Then'he commanded that they should be buried in the well of Badr.

[Sahih Muslim, Hadith # 6869]


Note
: Here the Prophet (Peace be upon him) said , even you cannot hear more distinctly than they , Hence it proves that even Kafirs who are Dead can hear more clearly then alive can or equally let alone be Muslims and Prophets (aleh islam).But Kafirs cannot reply back according to this hadith, Where as muslims have the ability to reply as proved above and will be proved further.
 
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Hadith #3

Narrated Ibn Shihab:These were the battles of Allah's Apostle (which he fought), and while mentioning (the Badr battle) he said, "While the corpses of the pagans were being thrown into the well, Allah's Apostle said (to them), 'Have you found what your Lord promised true?" 'Abdullah said, "Some of the Prophet's companions said, "O Allah's Apostle! You are addressing dead people.' Allah's Apostle replied, 'You do not hear what I am saying, better than they.'

[Sahih Bukhari, Book 59, Number 360]



Hadith #4


Allah has declared it forbidden for the earth to eat the bodies of the prophets. So the prophets are living and they receive their sustenance

References


►Ibn Majah narrated this sahih (sound) hadith in his Sunan, b. of jana'iz (funerals) ch.65 (1:524#1636-7), b. of iqamat-us-salat was-sunnah fiha (establishing prayer and its sunnahs) ch.79 (1:345#1085)

► Abu Dawud, Sunan, b. of salat (prayer) 1:275 (#1047)

►Nasa'i, Sunan, b. of jumu'ah (Friday prayer) 3:92;

►Ahmad bin Hambal Musnad (4:8);

► Ibn Hibban, as-Sahih (3:191#910)

►Darimi, Sunan (1:307#1580)

► Ibn Khuzaymah, as-Sahih (3:118#1733)

►Ibn Abi Shaybah, al-Musannaf (2:516);

►Hakim, al-Mustadrak (1:278);

►Tabarani, al-Mu'jam-ul-kabir (1:217#589) and► Bayhaqi in as-Sunan-ul-kubra (3:249). Hadith #5 (Sahaba believed that they enjoyed the company of others after death)

Click Here to read more Proofs from Sahih hadiths on life of Prophets [aleh islam] in graves

Hadith #6,


Narrated Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri : Allah's Apostle said, "When the funeral is ready (for its burial) and the people lift it on their shoulders, then if deceased is a righteous person he says, 'Take me ahead,' and if he is not a righteous one then he says, 'Woe to it (me)! Where are you taking it (me)?' And his voice is audible to everything except human beings; and if they heard it they would fall down unconscious."

(Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 23, Number 462
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,This shows that the Dead can not only hear us, but they are also aware of what is happening in this world. And their voice is audible to everything except human beings.

Hadith #7


The Prophet [salehalawaalihi wasalam] said :
"My life is a great good for you, you will relate about me and it will be related to you, and my death is a great good for you, your actions will be presented to me (in my grave) and if I see goodness I will praise Allah, and if see other than that I will ask forgiveness of him (for you)."

References for above hadith:


►Qadi `Iyad cites it in "al-Shifa" (1:56 of the Amman edition)

► Suyuti said in his "Manahil al-safa fi takhrij ahadith al-shifa" (Beirut 1988/1408) p. 31 (#8):

►"Ibn Abi Usama cites it in his Musnad from the hadith of Bakr ibn `Abd Allah al-Mazni,

►al-Bazzar from the hadith of Ibn Mas`ud with a sound (sahih) chain.

►It is cited in Subki's Shifa' al-siqm fi ziyarat khayr al-anm
[The Healing of the Sick Concerning the Visit of the Best of Creation], where he mentions that Bakr ibn Abd Allah al-Mazini reported it, and Ibn al-Jawzi mentions it through Bakr and then again through Anas ibn Malik in the penultimate chapter of the penultimate section of al-Wafa, both huffaz without giving the isnad.

Ibn al-Jawzi statement on hadith


However, Ibn al-Jawzi specifies in the introduction of al-Wafa that he only included sound traditions in his book.
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He also mentions the version through Aws ibn Aws: "The actions of human beings are shown to me every Thursday on the night of (i.e. preceding) Friday."
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►See also FatH al-Bri 10:415,

►al-Mundhiri's Targheeb wa al-Tarheeb 3:343, ►and Ahmad 4:484
 

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Hadith #8

The Prophet (salehalawaalihiwasalam) Said

"Whoever invokes blessings on me at my grave, I hear him, and whoever invokes blessings on me from afar, I am informed about it

References:

►Ibn Hajar says in FatH al-Bri 6:379:

►Abu al-Shaykh cites it with a good chain (sanad jayyid),► Bayhaqi mentions it in Hayt al-anbiy with "ublightuhu" in the end


Hadith #9


Sahih Hadith states:


مَرَّ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ بِقُبُورِ الْمَدِينَةِ فَأَقْبَلَ عَلَيْهِمْ بِوَجْهِهِ فَقَالَ السَّلَامُ عَلَيْكُمْ يَا أَهْلَ الْقُبُورِ يَغْفِرُ اللَّهُ لَنَا وَلَكُمْ أَنْتُمْ سَلَفُنَا وَنَحْنُ بِالْأَثَرِ


Sayyindina lbn Abbas narrated that Allah’s Messenger — passed by some graves of Madinah. He turned his face towards them, and said: Peace be on you, O people of the grave![ السَّلَامُ عَلَيْكُمْ يَا أَهْلَ الْقُبُورِ] May Allah forgive us and you. You have gone before us and we are to follow.

[Sunan tirmidhi Chapter 59 Hadith # 1055]


Hadith #10


Narrated Abu Hurayra I heard the Prophet say: "By the one in Whose hand is Abu al-Qasim's soul, `Isa ibn Maryam shall descend as a just and wise ruler. He shall destroy the cross, slay the swine, eradicate discord and grudges, and money shall be offered to him but he will not accept it. Then he shall stand at my grave side and say: Ya Muhammad! and I will answer him.

Reference:

►Ibn Hajar al-`Asqalani cites it in al-Matalib al-`aliya (Kuwait, 1393/1973)

►Abu Ya`la relates it with a sound (sahih) chain in his Musnad Volume No. 11, Page No. 462, Published by Dar ul Kutb al-iLmiyyah;


Hadith #11


ضَرَبَ بَعْضُ أَصْحَابِ النَّبِيِّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ خِبَاءَهُ عَلَى قَبْرٍ وَهُوَ لَا يَحْسِبُ أَنَّهُ قَبْرٌ فَإِذَا فِيهِ إِنْسَانٌ يَقْرَأُ سُورَةَ تَبَارَكَ الَّذِي بِيَدِهِ الْمُلْكُ حَتَّى خَتَمَهَا فَأَتَى النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَقَالَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ إِنِّي ضَرَبْتُ خِبَائِي عَلَى قَبْرٍ وَأَنَا لَا أَحْسِبُ أَنَّهُ قَبْرٌ فَإِذَا فِيهِ إِنْسَانٌ يَقْرَأُ سُورَةَ تَبَارَكَ الْمُلْكِ حَتَّى خَتَمَهَا فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ هِيَ الْمَانِعَةُ هِيَ الْمُنْجِيَةُ تُنْجِيهِ مِنْ عَذَابِ الْقَبْرِ
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Sayyidina Ibn Abbas (RA) reported that one of the companions of the Prophet (SAW) pitched a tent on a grave. He did not know that there was grave. It was the grave of human beings, who recited surah al-Mulk (#67) to the end of it. He came to the Prophet (SAW) and said, “O Messenger of Allah (SAW), I pitched my tent over a grave without knowing that it was a grave. The man inside recited surah al-Mulk to its end.” The Prophet (SAW) said, “It is the rescuer. It rescues from punisment of the grave.”

Reference

► Chapter 9, Virtues of surah al-Mulk, Tirmidhi (2899)
 

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Objection No:1 Regarding Quranic verse



Quran says
Verily, you cannot make the dead to hear , nor can you make the deaf to hear the call, when they flee, turning their backs(27:80 and 30:52)
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Question
: Does above verse mean that Dead (muslims and non muslims cannot hear)
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Answer
: This verse has more of a methaphoric meaning, secondly it refers to the kufaar not muslims in this case

Next verse says
: Nor can you lead the blind out of their error, you can only make to hear those who believe in Our Ayt, and who have submitted

[Quran 27:81 and 30:53]


this doesn't only refute the argument regarding first verse which some put forward that dead cannot hear in any circumstances but also makes it clear that muslims can hear as Allah says himself in the next verse , you can only make to hear those who believe in Our Ayt,

now let us go and check various authentic tafsirs regarding this verse
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Tafsir ibn e khateer

for verse 27:80/1 and 30:52/3 says


{ إِنَّكَ لاَ تُسْمِعُ ٱلْمَوْتَىٰ ** أي: لا تسمعهم شيئاً ينفعهم، فكذلك هؤلاء، على قلوبهم غشاوة، وفي آذانهم وقر الكفر، ولهذا قال تعالى: { وَلاَ تُسْمِعُ ٱلصُّمَّ ٱلدُّعَآءَ إِذَا وَلَّوْاْ مُدْبِرِينَ وَمَآ أَنتَ بِهَادِي ٱلْعُمْيِ عَن ضَلالَتِهِمْ إِن تُسْمِعُ إِلاَّ مَن يُؤْمِنُ بِآيَاتِنَا فَهُم مُّسْلِمُونَ ** أي: إنما يستجيب لك من هو سميع بصير، السمع والبصر النافع في القلب والبصيرة، الخاضعُ لله ولما جاء عنه على ألسنة الرسل عليهم السلام.

(Verily, you cannot make the dead to hear)
meaning, you cannot cause them to hear anything that will benefit them. The same applies to those over whose hearts is a veil and in whose ears is deafness of disbelief. Allah says:

(nor can you make the deaf to hear the call, when they flee, turning their backs. Nor can you lead the blind out of their error. You can only make to hear those who believe in Our Ayat, so they submit (became Muslims).) meaning, those who have hearing and insight will respond to you, those whose hearing and sight are of benefit to their hearts and who are humble towards Allah and to the Message that comes to them through the mouths of the Messengers, may peace be upon them.[end]

Arabic link

http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?...0&LanguageId=1

From above it seems these verses are not for those in Grave even , its talking about non muslims in the world who don't get hidaya and don't listen to word of Allah with an open heart, whos Hearts are dead,
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People quote these verses out of context without going into Authentic tafsirs or reading the next verse even,peace

Objection No:2
Regarding Quranic verse

Quran states:
Nor are (alike) the living and the dead. Verily, Allh makes whom He will hear, but you cannot make hear those who are in graves

[quran 35:22]


In above verse the first part is talking about Disbelievers and muslims when it comes to Nor are (alike) the living and the dead and Tafsirs will shortly prove it,

In the second part Allah says Verily, Allh makes whom He will hear , this clearly indicated that whom Allah (swt) wills he can hear and its not impossible , its already proved from several hadiths that not only believers but even non muslims can hear better then living from the grave,

Tafsir Ibn Kathir on this verse



وقوله تعالى: { إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يُسْمِعُ مَن يَشَآءُ ** أي: يهديهم إلى سماع الحجة وقبولها والانقياد لها. { وَمَآ أَنتَ بِمُسْمِعٍ مَّن فِى ٱلْقُبُورِ ** أي: كما لا ينتفع الأموات بعد موتهم وصيرورتهم إلى قبورهم وهم كفار بالهداية والدعوة إليها، كذلك هؤلاء المشركون الذين كتب عليهم الشقاوة، لا حيلة لك فيهم، ولا تستطيع هدايتهم { إِنْ أَنتَ إِلاَّ نَذِيرٌ ** أي: إنما عليك البلاغ والإنذار، والله يضل من يشاء، ويهدي من يشاء، { إِنَّا أَرْسَلْنَـٰكَ بِٱلْحَقِّ بَشِيرًا وَنَذِيرًا ** أي: بشيراً للمؤمنين، ونذيراً للكافرين، { وَإِن مِّنْ أُمَّةٍ إِلاَّ خَلاَ فِيهَا نَذِيرٌ ** أي: وما من أمة خلت من بني آدم، إلا وقد بعث الله تعالى إليهم النذر، وأزاح عنهم العلل؛ كما قال تعالى:

(Verily, Allah makes whom He wills to hear,)
means. He guides them to listen to the proof and accept it and adhere it.

(but you cannot make hear those who are in graves.)
means, `just as the dead as disbelievers and ended up in the graves, so too you cannot help these idolators who are decreed to be doomed, and you cannot guide them.'[end]

Click here for Arabic source of Above Tafsir

The above Tafsir doesn't only seperat the hearing part of dead but says it explains that its talking about guidance and accepting the truth, not about hearing, its also an agreed and acceptable fact that dead cannot accept Islam once they are dead.
 
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mimran301

Guest
One can agree or disagree on what Tahir Qadri says, but trying to kill him is, where lies all evils and fanatic tendencies of Mullahs. As many people on this thread are making efforts to prove him wrong about whatever he say, do zero efforts against fanatics and jihadis. I ask simple question....why you people shut your mouths and why your pens get dry to speak and write against that army of evil and darkness.
Let me hear, what the supporters of Takfiris and Jihadis have to say on it??
 

mrbaig

Senator (1k+ posts)
Yar,baat kahan se kahan chali gai.Mera khayal mein Allama,professor,sheikh ul Islam,Doctor Tahir ul Qadri ko ab Shahadat k rutbey per sarfaraz ho jana chahiye.Govt ko chahiye un ko awara sand ki tarah aazad chor dey.
 

mmalihk

MPA (400+ posts)
najdee o kalima padhaney ka bhi ihsaan gaya...
aaj maan ley phir na maney geypbuh qayamat main agar maan gaya.........
 

Hatham

Banned
and ur bhotbandi(deobandi) and wahabi mullas hav only given us terrorism and terrorist identity in this world and accusing other muslims as kafirs

tahir-ul-qadri is doing nothing but reviving a biddat. The hadeeths quoted in above fatwa can only be used to advise a person to recite Kalima on the dead bed (while still alive), not after a person death.

Lets see what Quraan says on this issue:

There are two unequivocal texts from the Qur'an which deny the possibility of the dead in their graves possessing the faculty of hearing. Allah, the Blessed and Exalted, states :


[Surah an-Naml 27:80]
إِنَّكَ لَا تُسْمِعُ الْمَوْتَىٰ وَلَا تُسْمِعُ الصُّمَّ الدُّعَاءَ إِذَا وَلَّوْا مُدْبِرِينَ

Yusuf Ali 80: Truly thou canst not cause the dead to listen, nor canst thou cause the deaf to hear the call, (especially) when they turn back in retreat.
البتہ تو مردوں کو نہیں سنا سکتا اور نہ بہروں کو اپنی پکارسنا سکتا ہے جب وہ پیٹھ پھیر کر لوٹیں

[Surah Fatir 35:22]

وَمَا يَسْتَوِي الْأَحْيَاءُ وَلَا الْأَمْوَاتُ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُسْمِعُ مَن يَشَاءُ ۖ وَمَا أَنتَ بِمُسْمِعٍ مَّن فِي الْقُبُورِ
Yusuf Ali 22: Nor are alike those that are living and those that are dead. Allah can make any that He wills to hear; but thou canst not make those to hear who are (buried) in graves.
اور زندے اور مردے برابر نہیں ہیں بے شک الله سناتا ہے جسے چاہے اور آپ انہیں سنانے والے نہیں جو قبروں میں ہیں
In the first verse Allah addresses His messenger, Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وسلم), reminding him that he cannot make the disbelievers hear the invitation to Islam, for they are like the dead, who do not hear either. In the second verse Allah points to the difference between the living and the dead - they are not all alike. He further clarifies to His prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) that he cannot make the rejectors of faith hear the message (for they are dead in heart and in spirit) any more than he (صلى الله عليه وسلم) can make those in the graves hear what is spoken to them!
 

w-a-n-t-e-d-

Minister (2k+ posts)

abb btao munafik kon

samar bhai deen ki dawat tu bush or obama ko bhi dayni hai sarkozi ko bhi dayni hai...

in videos main yeh tu nahi kaha gea k Tahirul Qadri K Aqaed Durust Hain....???

Mulana Tariq Jameel Sahab Tu Faizan-e-Madnia Bhi Ja K Ilyas Qadri Say Milay

or bhi aysi misalayin hongi ....


JazakAllah khair
 
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zaigham

Senator (1k+ posts)
i think .. ham loag bahot jaldi bahot extreem faisla lay layte hein .. hamey dosrey logon ko bi apni baat kehney ka moqa dena chey .. mein samjhta hon dr qadri sahab ki koi baat kamzor bhi ho gi .. magar sirf oss ke liye foran ossey kafir karar day dena theek nahe .. honestly speaking mujhey sab say ziyada sipah sahaba ka akeeda motasir karta hai ..baki loag apney pass say bahhot khuch shamil kartey hein ... and personley belive yeh ghalat bhi ho sakti hai baat .. i rate shias lower than ahmadis .. ahmadies ka sirf eik iktalf hai but shias tu hain hi eikhtalaf or oss par koi baat daleel say bhi maney ko tayar nahe .. but i think still hamey har kisi ki baat ko sona or oss ki asal problem ko samjhna zaroor cheye . har baat ke pechay koi na koi logic zaroor hoti heiy ab woh kitni takatwar hai ya kamzor oss pay behas ho sakti hai
 
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