طاہر ال قادری پاکستانی یے یا غیر ملکی ؟؟؟

Xiggs

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Winners & losers of Dr. Qadri's long march.

what a stupid thread... loosers will be all the parties esp PTI.. winners will be army and judiciary....


my thought exactly! how can PPPP PMLN be winners...and how can PTI and judiciary be losers.

total bullcrap analysis!
 

Pracha

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Winners & losers of Dr. Qadri's long march.

my thought exactly! how can PPPP PMLN be winners...and how can PTI and judiciary be losers.

total bullcrap analysis!

Either you have not read the whole post or you are a true mureed. If you have read my arguments, then justify yours. Just don't make statements.
 

Night_Hawk

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: Winners & losers of Dr. Qadri's long march.

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khanpanni

Minister (2k+ posts)
Who Is Dr Tahir al-Qadri?

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Have you been knowing that much about Allama Dr. Tahir-al-qadri before ? The same case was with me and after reading the below article about him, my mind setup has changed totally. Although
I am not from his followers but now I know him better then before ? Lot of Pakistani
dislike him because of his new ( Suffi-ism faith QADRIA never existed ) in Islam ? I personally do not know
his motives at the end ? It is up to our SC and people to accept him as a religious
and political leader? I am infavour of peaceful Pakistan for all, that is why his introduction is as below, wasalam.


Who Is Dr Tahir al-Qadri?


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Saddened by the doubts, cynicism and out right hate seen on media and most of my friends updates, am compelled to write this and clear at least some of the mystery surrounding Dr Tahir ul Qadri, whom my family has known personally since i was a child.

First and foremost Dr Qadri, is the mureed (spiritual disciple) of His Holiness Shaikh Tahir Allaud-din-Qadri of Baghad, who moved to Pakistan and settled first in Faisalabad and then Karachi. The house on sunset boulevard on the left with the green dome when ur headed towards Phase 2 is his. :) Agreed upon by all the Sufi Saints and Shaikhs, including those of Syria, Egypt and Pakistan, Syedna Tahir Allaud-din-Qadri was the "Qutb" or Spiritual Pole of his age, the Grand Sheikh, heir of the Prophet's mystic bounty. Many consider Dr Tahir ul Qadri to be his greatest student and his miracle.
Dr Tahir ul Qadri denied his Sheikh's many requests to grant him "Khilafat", (spiritual inheritance of sainthood) as he had taken an oath never to become a "Pir" (spiritual master) himself.
Dr Tahir ul Qadri belongs to the Silsila (Spiritual chain) Qadriya named after the Grand Sheikh Ghaus ul Azam Hazrat Abdul Qadir al Jilani of Baghdad.
The white headgear and the long garb he has worn since the last 10-15 years is the traditional clothing of the Sheikhs of this silsila………….to answer the tweet--"where does he get his wardrobe!"

He is not a Mullah nor is he a Maulana, as both are, contrary to popular belief, not just labels for bearded fundamentalist types but academic ranks. He is schooled from Sacred Heart in Jhang……which is a convent!!! (Surprise surprise!!!) He has an LLB and a Phd in Islamic Jurisprudence from University of Punjab where he soon after became a professor.
One of his first brushes with controversy were on a case of islamic ruling where he challenged the greatest books and masters of Fiqh (Islamic Law) and declared that a murdered woman's blood money could not be less than that of a man. He was quickly branded "modern, heretic, secular" by the "Mullah's" and Scholars.

The Tehreek e Minhaj ul Quran movement, with its centre in Lahore is a global organization with centers in more than 90 countries and millions of members……..including myself and my mom! :) :) :)
What we may not have heard about Minhaj ul Quran…….because all such names are pronounced "Al Qaida" in our vast vocab:

* TMQ (Tehreek e Minhaj ul Quran) has set up 572 schools including 72 colleges all over Pakistan with 120,000 students. These are schools NOT Madrassa's. (Funded by Israel ?)
* 3000 Libraries including books, CD's and DVD's
* Set up Minhaj ul Quran Women's league. (Funded by Taliban ?)
* Set up Itekaf City………where 40,000 people gather for Itekaf in the last 10 days of Ramadan and have been for the last 30 years. i have been there twice, it was awesome!
* Annual gathering at Minar e Pakistan for 12th of Rabbi Awwal for close to 30 years………if u think his jalsa was huge, u've never attended that party! I have :) Funded by USAID ?
* Annual gathering of Shab e Qadr, 27th of Ramadan, one of the largest congregational prayers after Hajj and the Tableeghi love parade. (PS: he is not tableeghi, more on that later!) (Funded by India??)
* Minhaj ul Quran University in Lahore, which includes departments of Mathematics, Commerce and Management, Social Science and Humanities, Information Technology and Computer Science, English, Urdu, Arabic and Islam. Second campus in Karachi. Dr Qadri is the Chancellor.
*Minhaj Welfare Organization in 90 countries focusing on disaster relief, poverty relief and aiding blind and disabled people and raising scholarships for under privileged students.
*102 free clinics and blood banks across Pakistan (Funded by Google)
*Collective Marriage ceremony system, to aid poor people who cannot afford to get their children, mostly daughters married due to our cruel dowry system.
*1500 free water pumps to get clean water to rural areas across Pakistan
*System of FREE LEGAL ASSISTANCE for Abused and exploited women which attempts to get them through the police and legal system safely, raising awareness about rights and atrocities against women.(Funded by KKK)

*Dr Qadri himself has authored close to 1000 books, 400 in publication in various languages spanning, Sufism, Islamic Law, Social system, Science, Evolution, Human Rights, Philosophy, Translation and Tafsir of Quran (14 Volumes) , Hadith and science of Hadith (24 Volumes), Life of the Holy Prophet (14 Volumes, largest ever!), History of Islam, Constitutional Theory and more.

*Monumental 600 page Fatwa on Suicide Bombings……THE ONLY ONE IN THE WORLD which took him global. Search for his fatwa related interviews on BBC, CNN, Skynews. This work also led to him being appointed Advisor to counter Radicalism to the Gov of Britian.

*Conference for Peace---Wembley Arena, London. Interfaith event representing all faiths where Jews, Christians, Hindu's, Buddhists not only came but also did Zikr and mid Zikr were asked to pray in their own ways to prove that Islam was not intolerant towards other beliefs as marketed by post 911 global media, Islamophobes and our own "mullah crew". (Funded by Aerosmith)

He is also the only Islamic Scholar to have defended Salman Taseer's murder and declared that the killer be tried for murder. There is a 1400 hour speech on this very case and the forged out of context blasphemy law clips so popular and quickly shared these days are from this speech. Please see the whole thing to get the correct perspective, and stop ignorantly promoting hate and cynicism towards a person who is the most liberal, broad minded and academically gifted scholar to have perhaps ever graced our nation.

For a commentary on his now famous dreams……..again, please google for the commentary, perspective and analogy before buying into the same media which you proclaim to be lies all year around. Read about the concept and interpretation of dreams in Hadith and the writings of mystics.

Dr Tahir ul Qadri is not a Saudi inspired Wahabi, Salafi, Deobandi, Tableeghi extremist. I hate to use these labels but unfortunately modern day Islam has more genres than House music! Neither is he a hard line barelvi, which is the other extreme of the Sunni sect.
He always has a Shia scholar accompany him everywhere and is one of the very very few Sunni Scholars to be loved, respected, admired and invited to speak at Majlis by the Shia community.
He is one of the few people, especially in Pakistan, who speaks openly condemning the Khwariji Movement and school of extremist Islam which has so successfully infiltrated, corrupted, hijacked and divided our beliefs. Research!! Dr Qadri is the foremost scholar working and correcting Sunni/Shia misunderstandings.

So to answer the FB update from the day of his first jalsa: Where did TQ come from and how did he mobilize so many people so soon ?…………..it took him 30 years of academic service, hundreds of thousands of speeches, 1000 books and lectures all over the world, teaching 2 generations of muslims globally. What you missed were his 30 years of serving a subject that did not interest you. Neither were you probably aware that his lectures have been broadcast, (recorded and live) on PTV since the early 80's (and then banned by Zia), twice everyday on QTV, ATV, ARY, live broadcasts of all his major annual gatherings, plus huge amounts of media coverage from Europe and most superstar news chans. But we don't watch or listen to bearded people. Ever. Unless its ZZ Top! Or Gandalf.

But it did interest millions in the world. Some of whom have travelled from all over to be with him in his march, donated millions to this cause,and paid for his security and bullet proof vehicle because it matters to THEM. And Pakistan matters to them and the future of pakistan matters to them. And maybe they could afford the media campaign and security measures. It doesn't have to be funded by an agenda or agency. It could. Maybe it was. What if its not ? Do you know for sure ?

But yeah…..he didn't win a world cup and he has a beard. And he came from nowhere, speaks weird english (coz he's from JHANG!!), wears a white hat, cries during his speeches (which are delivered with a bit more passion and rage than we are used to), speaks often about the Prophet(SAWW) and his Ahle Bayt, brings his whole family to the march, and has thousands of people standing with him in bitter cold, demanding everything which most of us would agree with. Not a single one of them an extremist, neither are any islamic political leaders, organizations or scholars supporting him.(which is awesome!!!) He is not fighting democracy, he is fighting a failed system, very bravely, and trying to restore true democracy. I do not doubt his intention or that of those who actually made his march happen, the youth, the men, the women.

The responsible method would be to do a few minutes of google and use ur own intellect to sift through the truth and propaganda. Then maybe tally his ideology, track record and achievements with that of those who have had power again and again in our democratic system for decades, and draw your own conclusions, hopefully based on facts rather than indoctrination, prejudice, and media propaganda.
But don't look towards Wiki………they blocked his page! :)

Dr Tahir ul Qadri is not a Mullah. But he is misunderstood, misquoted and was largely ignored.
Our music, art, fashion, lifestyle choices and ideas are not under threat by him or his movement. But our rights, freedom, safety and future are, under the system which he is fighting against.
To the marchers he is a leader, reformer, hope. To the Sufis and faqirs, he is something else entirely.
And he did not come out of nowhere.

May the next couple of days be safe and historic for our country. May truth and bravery succeed and may we all unite for Pakistan. Under the banner of truth, not lies and propaganda.
May Allah protect us all from liars, thugs, thieves corruption and injustice and may our country finally attain the greatness which our nation deserves.

Wishing Pakistan an awesome future.



 
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sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Who Is Dr Tahir al-Qadri?

this imposers story is finished no need to glorify him... we all know him very well by now


Imran Khan's DEMAND to the government to negotiate a settlement with Tahirul Qadri immediately is well known? Please read our (PTI) official press release below:

http://www.insaf.pk/News/tabid/60/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/14736/Government-should-immediately-open-negotations-with-Dr-Tahir-Ul-Qadri-and-desist-from-violence-against-the-crowd-says-Imran-Khan.aspx

The problem is that you are not understanding with open mind. You have sectarian mind. Leave your personal grudges apart and then try to understand things with open mind. It was agreed upon that the focus will be on the enforcement of electoral reforms prior to the polls on: (a) Article 62, 63 and 218 (3) of the constitution; b) Section 77 to 82 of the Representation of Peoples’ Act 1976 and other relevant provisions relating to conducting free, fair, just and honest elections guarded against all corrupt practices and; (c) The Supreme Court Judgement of June 8, 2012 on constitutional petition of 2011 must be implemented in Toto and in true letter and spirit.
 

Mansoor Khan

Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Who Is Dr Tahir al-Qadri?

hahhahaah yeah yeah we did see all his great deeds which you guys have mentioned. he is a great scholar of lies and his fatwas of hussainiyat and yazeediat are seen there. and we have seen some greatest achievements of his truthfullness and his strength and bravery was seen when all his followers were in shahdat proof chambers and he was guarding them with a sword in his hand. comeon yaar. common sense bhi koi cheez hoti hai. you dont need to read 1oo books to know that sky is blue. just look up and you will see it.
 

hans

Banned
Re: Who Is Dr Tahir al-Qadri?

One more Punjabi with an Arab link. Almost any one who is a Mullah seem to have an arab link.
 

Zoaib

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Who Is Dr Tahir al-Qadri?

Who is he?

Akbar Babar (who has been close to IK) says about him:

"I know Qadri very well as IK and I used to meet him regularly as part of the post 2002 election scenario along with Ejaz ul Haq and Hamid Nasir Chattha. This was the time when we were labeled the establishment’s ‘tonga’ parties. I realize that he can shift faster then shifting sands. Despite him, the art of politics is to get maximum mileage from a given situation."

Given how things have gone since yesterday, he seems to have understood him well.
 

karachiwala

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Who Is Dr Tahir al-Qadri?

Sorry to disagree but do you take people of this forum to be illiterate??? After seeing the video proof why would we buy your thesis??? Amazing thing is he got Canadian citizenship after meeting the most hated person on earth by the Muslims, the Danish cartoonist??? You still consider him to be worth 2 cents? If you do then thank you for letting me know so at least I can put you in my Junk folder as well.
 

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