RajaRawal111
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Aoo pray merey Mujhey maaf kur do. Men ne kha he trial courts ka Fesla aaney do phir baat kuren gey. Us waqt tuk tusi wadey. Tusi wadey tusi wadey.
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Aoo pray merey Mujhey maaf kur do. Men ne kha he trial courts ka Fesla aaney do phir baat kuren gey. Us waqt tuk tusi wadey. Tusi wadey tusi wadey.
جسکو گھر بیٹھے بری کر کے خوش ہو رہے ہو وہ بیچارہ پورے ٹبر سمیت عدالتوں میں دھکے کھا رہا ہے. بیٹے اشتہاری ہوئے پڑے ہیں اور بیوی کسی ہسپتال میں انکے جرائم کا دنیاوی عذاب بھگت رہی ہے
عبرت ناک مقام ہے
اور اسکے حواری گھر بیٹھے تکے لگا رہے ہیں کہ سب خیر ہے
ہاہا
راجہ صاحب رونے نہ لگ جایا کریں
میں نے آپ سے بھی کچھ سوال پوچھے ہیں اور زیدی صاحب سے بھی
دونوں نے رونا شروع کر دیا ہے
زیدی صاحب کی تو کیسٹ ہی پھنس گئی ہے
rtabasum2
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
PMLN is the single largest party in Senate now with 27 seats
9 will complete their term in this March
Likely to win 11 from Punjab
Doubtful 3 from Balochistan
Doubtful 1 from KP
2 from Islamabad
If wins all its max strength-36/38, simple majority-53
PPP: 26, 18 will retire- Likely to win 8/9 from Sindh- 16/17 any seat from KP/Balochistan/ICT bonus
ANP: 6 senators, 5 will retire- 1 left
MQM: 8,4 will retire,winning 4 doubtful
PMLQ: 4,all retire
So those doubtful 3 from Baluchistan were assured 3 to 4 seats from there ...........now you see the reason behind the change.......tell what NS has in mind after Senate election if interested
Those in red were all PMLn voters as they go with the highest bidders ..........ANP 5 seats might go to PTI so more headache for PMLn
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rtabasum2
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
yes that is the right approach lets wait for verdict from trial court n than we can have a rationale debate..........till than it is all assumptions
Zaidi Qasim
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Here comes another wasted post . I knew that you are concocted a lie which you can't prove with any evidence .So, now since you admitted that you have no proof to provide, let me give you a summary of what you have been accusing NS for.
NS is corrupt since he couldn't prove the income to buy his properties ...
Do you have any proof that the property was bought by the corruption money ?
No, I don't have any proof but I am Ilzam Khan and this is my Job.
NS is corrupt and got lots of kickbacks from the power projects.
Do, you have any proof of his corruption ?
No, I don't have any proof of his kickbacks, But I am Mr. Ilzam Khan and it is my job to blame.
Ns is corrupt because he built his empire outside of the country .
Do you have any proof of his illicit activities ?
No, I don't have any proof of his laundering the money but I am Mr. Ilzam Khan and this is my job.
Has NS been convicted by any court is Pakistan for corruption ?
No, He hasn't been but I am Ilzam Khan and this is my Job to call him corrupt.
Do you have any evidence of NS's corruption ?
No, I don't have any Evidence , but he is corrupt and I don't have to prove it.I am Mr. Ilzam Khan and this is My Job.
NS is corrupt because lots of children are being kidnapped in his tenure .
Do you have any evidence that he is behind these criminal acts ?
No, I don't any any evidence but I am Mr. Ilzam Khan and this is my job .
NS is corrupt because a lot of buses missing its stops.
Do you have any evidence that NS makes these buses miss the stop ?
No, I don't have any evidence but you have to believe me because I am Mr. Ilzam Khan and this is my Job .
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RajaRawal111
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Oo yar ye pehli bar to nheen jub men apni kismet ko ro raha hoon. Aap ne pehley bhi Mujhey zor zor se rulaya hoowa he azli chighal bun kur.
Men dekh raha hoon Zaidi sahib ki cassette phunsi he ya aap ki. Jwab aap ke pass nheen un ke swal ka jo koi naee baat nhen.
Apney liye men yehi request karoon ga keh Allah ke bundey Adalton men is waqt yehi dekha ja raha he jis pur aap tabba azmaai kurney lugey hoowey hen. Zara sabar kur lo. Zara sabar.
RajaRawal111
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Right at this point I am not prepared for the numbers in senate. I will look at this later. But one thing I am sure PMLN is gaining otherwise it would not be that intrested.
About your question what after senate elections. My guess is early elrctions. Only problem may be the constitutional bar of delimitation according to new census. But PPP and PMLN can over ride it together and both will be intrested in doing so. Mind it soon as the 6th month is over PMLN will start playing innocent. And it is in their best interest to hold elections before trial courts judgements. The pressure on the courts will be relieved and reversed if they win again.
rtabasum2
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Is not that supposed to be next month???
Captain Safdar
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
basically Porn Leage is saying that dont discus Zainab's rape and murder case. iss qisam kay incident to poori dunya main hotay hain. Mitti pao.
ini raja?
ini raja?
Zaidi Qasim
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Honestly Raja Sahib . The PTI's grass root supporters who were the real revolutionaries left the PTI only because of this kind of idiotic non stop BS from the poodles like this guy. They live on the weaknesses of the others rather than the strength of their own . But this incident in Qasoor is blown out of the proportion by this troll .
Pakistan2017
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I said one line of just few words about this pathetic pigmae Rajarawal111, and here is bunch of fools to comment and discuss his thread.
راجہ صاحب جن سوالوں کا جواب میں نے آپ سے مانگا ہے اسکا جواب دیں
آپ دونوں بس اپنے ہی سوالوں پہ زور دیے رکھتے ہیں
سوال کا حق صرف آپ کو ہی ہے؟
Here comes another wasted post . I knew that you are concocted a lie which you can't prove with any evidence .So, now since you admitted that you have no proof to provide, let me give you a summary of what you have been accusing NS for.
NS is corrupt since he couldn't prove the income to buy his properties ...
Do you have any proof that the property was bought by the corruption money ?
یہی دنیا میں ہر جگہ قانون ہے
ثبوت میرے پاس نہیں میاں صاحب کے پاس ہونا چاہیے
میاں صاحب کو شکر کرنا چاہیے کہ آپ اور راجہ صاحب انکے وکیل نہیں ورنہ آپ نے تو عدالت میں یہی کہنا تھا کہ جی رسیدیں بھی دوسرے وکیل صاحب نے دینی ہیں
NS is corrupt and got lots of kickbacks from the power projects.
Do, you have any proof of his corruption ?
میں کوئی تفتیشی ادارہ نہیں ہوں. تفتیش کرنا اور ثبوت فراہم کرنا اداروں کا کام ہے اور اداروں نے جتنے ثبوت فراہم کیے ہیں انہی کی بنیاد پہ میاں صاحب ١٨ جائیدادوں کے کیس بھگت رہے ہیں
عام عوام مال سے اندازہ لگاتی ہے کہ کس کے پاس ناجائز مال ہے جیسا کہ حضرت عمر کے کیس میں ایک عام شخص نے صرف حق سے زیادہ لباس دیکھ کر لگایا تھا
Ns is corrupt because he built his empire outside of the country .
Do you have any proof of his illicit activities ?
یہاں بھی وہی غلطی کہ ثبوت کسی نے بھی فراہم نہیں کرنا بلکہ میاں صاحب نے ثابت کرنا ہے کہ وہ پیسا قانونی طریقے سے باہر لے کر گئے
Has NS been convicted by any court is Pakistan for corruption ?
میاں صاحب ملک کی سب سے بڑی عدالت میں اپنی جائیداد کی صفائی میں ناکام ہو چکے ہیں اور جھوٹے بھی ثابت ہو چکے ہیں. اس وقت میاں صاحب اسی جھوٹ کی بنیاد پہ سپریم کورٹ کے حکم پہ عدالتوں میں آمدن سے زائد اثاثہ جات اور منی لانڈرنگ کے کیس بھگت رہے ہیں
Do you have any evidence of NS's corruption ?
اس کا جواب اوپر دیا جا چکا ہے
بار ثبوت میاں صاحب پہ ہے
NS is corrupt because lots of children are being kidnapped in his tenure .
Do you have any evidence that he is behind these criminal acts ?
معاشرے میں جرائم کے بڑھتے تناسب کی ذمہ داری حکمران پہ ہی ہوتی ہے یہاں بھی حضرت عمر اور دریائے فارم کے کنارے والی مثال صادق آتی ہے اگر انسان بے شرم نہ ہو
جرائم کے بڑھتے تناسب کی بنیاد پہ حکمران کو کرپٹ نہیں نالائق اور نا اہل قرار دیا جاتا ہے جو کہ وہ سپریم کورٹ سے ہو چکے ہیں
NS is corrupt because a lot of buses missing its stops.
یہ منطق میں نے کبھی استعمال کی تو نہیں لیکن آپ نے لکھ ہی دی ہے تو جتنا پیسا میاں صاحب نے سڑکوں اور بسوں پہ لگا دیا ہے بس تو واقعی کوئی لیٹ نہیں ہونی چاہیے
No, I don't have any evidence but you have to believe me because I am Mr. Ilzam Khan and this is my Job .
آپ اس بات کی فکر نہ کریں کہ میرے پاس ثبوت نہیں ہے
آپ اس بات کی فکر کریں کہ میاں صاحب کے پاس کوئی ثبوت نہیں ہے جیسا کہ میاں صاحب کے وکیل نے عدالت میں کہا کہ
اگر کچھ ہوتا تو ابھی تک پیش نہ کر چکے ہوتے؟
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NATIONAL ACCOUNTABILITY ORDINANCE
(c) In any trial of an offence punishable under [SUP]1[/SUP][“clause (v) of sub-section (a) of section 9 of”] this Ordinance, the fact that the accused person or any other person on his behalf, is in possession, for which the accused person cannot satisfactorily account, of [SUP]2[/SUP][assets] or pecuniary resources disproportionate to his known source of income, or that such person has, at or about the time of the commission of the, offence with which he is charged, obtained an accretion to his pecuniary resources or property for which he cannot satisfactorily account the Court shall presume, unless the contrary is proved, that the accused person is guilty of the offence of corruption and [SUP]3[/SUP]* corrupt practices and his conviction [SUP]4[/SUP][therefore] shall not be invalid by reason only that it is based solely on such a presumption.
[SUP]5[/SUP][ (d) [SUP]6[/SUP][In any trial] of an offence under [SUP]7[/SUP][clauses (vi) and (vii) of section 9], the burden of proof that he used his authority, or issued any directive, or authorised the issuance of any policy or statutory rule or order (SRO), or made any grant or allowed any concession, in the public interest, fairly, justly, and for the advancement of the purpose of the enactment under which the authority was used, directive or policy or rule or order was issued or grant was made or concession was allowed shall lie on [SUP]8[/SUP][the accused], and in the absence of such proof the accused shall be guilty of the offence, and his conviction shall not be invalid by the reason that it is based solely on such presumption:]
9 (a) A holder of a public office, or any other person, is said to commit or to have committed the offence of corruption and corrupt practices-
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RajaRawal111
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
What I mean that the judgments are not coming in next month (at least the way cases are proceeding). It will be delayed. But elections may take place before that.
RajaRawal111
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
جناب ا چیچڑ اعظم صاحب ایک فیصلے کے الفاظ یہ ہیں
We enquired whether respondents Nos. 1 to 9 were called upon to explain the allegations and the learned Prosecutor states that there is nothing on record to confirm this. The References also do not mention the ingredients which constitute the aforesaid offences; they do not allege that respondent Nos. 2 to 9 had assets “disproportionate” to their “known sources of income” which they could not “reasonably account for” and/or had misused their “authority to gain any benefit or favour for himself or any other person”.
باقی ابھی آنے ہیں ان کے لئےخود ہی شتڑ شتڑ نہ کرو نا
وہ جج آپ سے کہیں زیادہ عقل مند ہیں ان کا انتظار کرو - چول نہ بنو
We enquired whether respondents Nos. 1 to 9 were called upon to explain the allegations and the learned Prosecutor states that there is nothing on record to confirm this. The References also do not mention the ingredients which constitute the aforesaid offences; they do not allege that respondent Nos. 2 to 9 had assets “disproportionate” to their “known sources of income” which they could not “reasonably account for” and/or had misused their “authority to gain any benefit or favour for himself or any other person”.
باقی ابھی آنے ہیں ان کے لئےخود ہی شتڑ شتڑ نہ کرو نا
وہ جج آپ سے کہیں زیادہ عقل مند ہیں ان کا انتظار کرو - چول نہ بنو
NATIONAL ACCOUNTABILITY ORDINANCE
(c) In any trial of an offence punishable under [SUP]1[/SUP][“clause (v) of sub-section (a) of section 9 of”] this Ordinance, the fact that the accused person or any other person on his behalf, is in possession, for which the accused person cannot satisfactorily account, of [SUP]2[/SUP][assets] or pecuniary resources disproportionate to his known source of income, or that such person has, at or about the time of the commission of the, offence with which he is charged, obtained an accretion to his pecuniary resources or property for which he cannot satisfactorily account the Court shall presume, unless the contrary is proved, that the accused person is guilty of the offence of corruption and [SUP]3[/SUP]* corrupt practices and his conviction [SUP]4[/SUP][therefore] shall not be invalid by reason only that it is based solely on such a presumption.
[SUP]5[/SUP][ (d) [SUP]6[/SUP][In any trial] of an offence under [SUP]7[/SUP][clauses (vi) and (vii) of section 9], the burden of proof that he used his authority, or issued any directive, or authorised the issuance of any policy or statutory rule or order (SRO), or made any grant or allowed any concession, in the public interest, fairly, justly, and for the advancement of the purpose of the enactment under which the authority was used, directive or policy or rule or order was issued or grant was made or concession was allowed shall lie on [SUP]8[/SUP][the accused], and in the absence of such proof the accused shall be guilty of the offence, and his conviction shall not be invalid by the reason that it is based solely on such presumption:]
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RajaRawal111
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
I absolutely know how miserable they are. And this shagoofa is one best example.
The Zenub case is definitely blown out of proportion and every other case big or small in coming days will be blown out of proportion, because as you said, their Rungeela also survives on the weaknesses of others because he himself has no nothing in hand to prove his worth. And these are their last days to do all efforts they can do.
The Zenub case is definitely blown out of proportion and every other case big or small in coming days will be blown out of proportion, because as you said, their Rungeela also survives on the weaknesses of others because he himself has no nothing in hand to prove his worth. And these are their last days to do all efforts they can do.
راجہ صاحب یہ ریفرنس تب کے ہیں جب فلیٹس کی ملکیت تسلیم نہیں کی گئی تھی تو ظاہر ہے کہ عدالت یہی کہے گی جائیداد تو ثابت ہے ہی نہیں
اب یہ جائیداد ٢٠٠٦ سے تسلیم کر لی گئی ہے لہٰذا اب تو اس کے ذرائع بتانے ہی ہیں
اسکے علاوہ اسکا مقصد زیدی صاحب کی پھنسی ہوئی کیسٹ کا علاج کرنا تھا
وہ سارے ثبوتوں کی امید مجھ سے لگائے بیٹھے تھے
اب انکا جھوٹ واضح ہو گیا ہے تو امید ہے کہ شرم کر لیں گے
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Zaidi Qasim
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
What have you admitted here is that you don't have any proof of any of the above charges . You don't have an answer of my basic question that if NS has been convicted by any court in corruption . You don't have any answer if the court found him guilty of any corruption charges . Yet, you are still playing Ilzam Khan of Pakistan . This is the kind of cynical politics which I see from the PTI and its troll. I have one word of advise . wait till your Ilzam Khan stand shoulder to shoulder yet again with TUQ and Zardari to fight against corruption . The bunch of hypocrites who are brought together to take advantage of an opportunity . What a shame that you and they have no regret from their acts of opportunism.
