کیا حکومت نے امریکی خاتون سنتھیارچی کو پیپلز پارٹی کیخلاف لانچ کیا ہے؟

[FarooqShad]

 

[3rd_Umpire]

کپتان کو ایسا کرنے کی کیا لوڑ ہے ؟؟؟
پیپل پالٹی تو پہلے ہی بقول حسن نثار "مرحومہ و مغفورہ" ہو چکی ہے

پاکستان سے سمٹ کر سندھ،، سندھ سے سمٹ کر لاڑکانہ
اور' لاڑکانہ سے سمٹ کر گڑھی خدا بخش تک سمٹنے والی ہے

 

[stoic]

if that was the case why target useless shill like rehman malik and joseph gillani? what threat do they pose to anyone really?

If she was being backed by anyone they would have gone for the leadership and blamed bilawal of rape... oh wait... no one would have believed her if she had blamed bilawal of sexual misconduct with a woman...

 

[Immu123]

Kisi na kisi ney to launch Kia hey warna 1 American aurat rape honey k baad 9 saal tak khamosh rahe esa possible nahe hey. US counselt apney citizen ko ketna support kerti hey Raymond Davis case mein dekh lo.
Rehman malik ki maa behen 1 ker deti ager is ney rape kia hota.

 

[Will_Bite]

Kisi na kisi ney to launch Kia hey warna 1 American aurat rape honey k baad 9 saal tak khamosh rahe esa possible nahe hey. US counselt apney citizen ko ketna support kerti hey Raymond Davis case mein dekh lo.
Rehman malik ki maa behen 1 ker deti ager is ney rape kia hota.

She didn't come out with it out of the blue. It was after PPP started cursing her out on social media.
It all started when she compared the attitude of Malik riazs daughters to that of benazir. And all hell broke loose. Since then, PPP has been constantly shooting itself in the foot

 

[Immu123]

She didn't come out with it out of the blue. It was after PPP started cursing her out on social media.
It all started when she compared the attitude of Malik riazs daughters to that of benazir. And all hell broke loose. Since then, PPP has been constantly shooting itself in the foot

Cursing doesn’t have to do anything with crime reporting. Rape is a crime and you are saying if ppp hadn’t cursed she wouldn’t have reported?
she is not Pakistani woman who someone can scare. she is American she knows her rights very well. Definately she is planted by someone

 

[Will_Bite]

Cursing doesn’t have to do anything with crime reporting. Rape is a crime and you are saying if ppp hadn’t cursed she wouldn’t have reported?

Yes she very likely wouldn't have. And even now, she didn't exactly report it. She just threw out the info. There's no way to prove a rape allegation from 9 years ago, unless the perps confess themselves.
It's more of a personal issue between her and PPP. Check her history. She came to Pakistan during PPP tenure and held some official post during PPP era. She was given residency by Rahman malik. So there is more to it than meets the eye

 

[Immu123]

Yes she very likely wouldn't have. And even now, she didn't exactly report it. She just threw out the info. There's no way to prove a rape allegation from 9 years ago, unless the perps confess themselves.
It's more of a personal issue between her and PPP. Check her history. She came to Pakistan during PPP tenure and held some official post during PPP era. She was given residency by Rahman malik. So there is more to it than meets the eye

See my full comments then comments plz.
My question is that if she had a sexual relation with him in return of any thing( obviously with her own will) then it’s not rape it’s sex and there is no law for sex. And if it were really a rape why than there is no reason to be quite after ppp tenure, even after pmln tenure. Don’t u think counslte would help her if she complained and seeked helped? it’s USA not Bangladeshi or afghani embassy. American can kills 1000s of people to save their 1 citizen

 

[Immu123]

Yes she very likely wouldn't have. And even now, she didn't exactly report it. She just threw out the info. There's no way to prove a rape allegation from 9 years ago, unless the perps confess themselves.
It's more of a personal issue between her and PPP. Check her history. She came to Pakistan during PPP tenure and held some official post during PPP era. She was given residency by Rahman malik. So there is more to it than meets the eye

Aap ki baat esi hi hey jese
Bilawal Bhutto boley mere baap ney aaj tak 1 luqma bhi haram nahe khaya hey

maryum nawaz boley mere baap ney aaj tak jhoot nahe bola hey
Aur imran Khan kahey Tyrian white meri beti nahe hey


I know ab pmln ppp aur pti k paid worker akar galian dena start ker dein gey magar Kia karein such ko jhutlaya nahe ja sakta

 

[Will_Bite]

See my full comments then comments plz.
My question is that if she had a sexual relation with him in return of any thing( obviously with her own will) then it’s not rape it’s sex and there is no law for sex. And if it were really a rape why than there is no reason to be quite after ppp tenure, even after pmln tenure. Don’t u think counslte would help her if she complained and seeked helped? it’s USA not Bangladeshi or afghani embassy. American can kills 1000s of people to save their 1 citizen

I clearly stated that it's impossible to prove rape after 9 years...so it's quite possible that it was consensual if it happened. And she didn't come out with it out of the blue. It was after the abuse she got as a result of comparison of Malik riazs daughters to benazir. So no, she wasn't filing a complaint and was never looking for US embassy support. She was just upping the ante in her feud with PPP....and PPP fell for it hook line and sinker.
At this stage, noone cares whether the allegations are true or false. PPp should have gracefully ignored it and let it die out. Instead they thought to use benazirs death as a trump card defense, and hope public would support them....but they don't realize that is something that has outlived it's utility.

 

[Immu123]

I clearly stated that it's impossible to prove rape after 9 years...so it's quite possible that it was consensual if it happened. And she didn't come out with it out of the blue. It was after the abuse she got as a result of comparison of Malik riazs daughters to benazir. So no, she wasn't filing a complaint and was never looking for US embassy support. She was just upping the ante in her feud with PPP....and PPP fell for it hook line and sinker.
At this stage, noone cares whether the allegations are true or false. PPp should have gracefully ignored it and let it die out. Instead they thought to use benazirs death as a trump card defense, and hope public would support them....but they don't realize that is something that has outlived it's utility.

Childish excuse and no one believe on it. U wasted your 2 minutes. What she has to do with Malik riaz daughters? It was the failure of the govt, civil society and state of Pakistan where a Pakistani couldn’t got the justice.

 

[Will_Bite]

Childish excuse and no one believe on it. U wasted your 2 minutes. What she has to do with Malik riaz daughters? It was the failure of the govt, civil society and state of Pakistan where a Pakistani couldn’t got the justice.

Not sure if you read her tweet, but after Malik riazs episode, she tweeted that benazir used to get women raped by her guards who had had affairs with zardari. PPP responded in the dumbest way possible, by trying to defend BBs 'honor' by abusing Cynthia and calling her all sorts of names. That is what started all this BS.
Justice at large in Malik riazs episode is a different matter....not the issue here...but yes, justice was not delivered in that case.

 

[Immu123]

Not sure if you read her tweet, but after Malik riazs episode, she tweeted that benazir used to get women raped by her guards who had had affairs with zardari. PPP responded in the dumbest way possible, by trying to defend BBs 'honor' by abusing Cynthia and calling her all sorts of names. That is what started all this BS.
Justice at large in Malik riazs episode is a different matter....not the issue here...but yes, justice was not delivered in that case.

Honestly speaking I didn’t see her tweet but on the other hand no one will accept her excuse to be silent 13 years on her rape. Definitely she is planted by someone and if ppp pull her to court she and her sponsor will be fucked up.

 

[Hate_Nooras]

Cursing doesn’t have to do anything with crime reporting. Rape is a crime and you are saying if ppp hadn’t cursed she wouldn’t have reported?
she is not Pakistani woman who someone can scare. she is American she knows her rights very well. Definately she is planted by someone

Many American Women also dont report rape.

 

[Immu123]

Many American Women also dont report rape.

Never seen any American woman who didn’t report the rape or any crime outside the US.

 

[Will_Bite]

Honestly speaking I didn’t see her tweet but on the other hand no one will accept her excuse to be silent 13 years on her rape. Definitely she is planted by someone and if ppp pull her to court she and her sponsor will be fucked up.

I already told you that she was not gonna talk about it even after another 13 years, if PPP MPAs and social media had not abused her. If she had meant to press charges, she would have done so years ago.

If PPP take her to court (which they already have), it will be a needless self humiliation parade for the party. Latif Khosa was on a program the other day and said that he was not in favor of filing a complaint on this, and he was not consulted. Goes to show that certain quarters in PPP are trying to be shah sey zyada shah kay wafadar, by creating embarrassment for the family that they claim to worship.

And PS ....her original sponsor was PPP itself. If the sponsor has changed now for some reason, that is a different debate, but the chicken has come home to roost for PPP.

 

[Immu123]

I already told you that she was not gonna talk about it even after another 13 years, if PPP MPAs and social media had not abused her. If she had meant to press charges, she would have done so years ago.

If PPP take her to court (which they already have), it will be a needless self humiliation parade for the party. Latif Khosa was on a program the other day and said that he was not in favor of filing a complaint on this, and he was not consulted. Goes to show that certain quarters in PPP are trying to be shah sey zyada shah kay wafadar, by creating embarrassment for the family that they claim to worship.

And PS ....her original sponsor was PPP itself. If the sponsor has changed now for some reason, that is a different debate, but the chicken has come home to roost for PPP.

And I already told you this assumption is not digestible and how come you are so confident about this assumption? Did she tell herself?
I don’t know who brought her but definitely someone brought her and this story is fabricated and planted.

 

[Will_Bite]

And I already told you this assumption is not digestible and how come you are so confident about this assumption? Did she tell herself?
I don’t know who brought her but definitely someone brought her and this story is fabricated and planted.

She came to Pakistan in 2009, and she worked as a consultant for PPP for a while. She was attached at the hip to PPP for a long time... You need to keep up with the news.

Check the following interview for information on her beginnings in Pakistan and relationship to PPP.

 

[Moula Jutt]

ٹی وی اور اخباروں میں بیٹھے ڈرائنگ روم بابے بس ٹانک ٹوہیاں مار کر صحافت میں زندہ رھنے کی کوشش کر رھے ھیں ۔ ورنہ حقیقت میں یہ سسی ای بے خبرے تیرا لیٹا شہر بھنبھور ہیں ۔

 

[hello]

بابا جی اس عمر میں کراہت ہی ہونی ہے جب گوڈے گٹے رہ جایں باقی اس اینکر عورت کو دیکھو کس طرح چسکے لے لے کر توجہ دلا رہی ہے کیونکہ اس میں رمق باقی ہے