پرویز ہود بھائے ۔۔ سائنس اور اسلام ۔۔ دونوں میں ناکام

rahail

MPA (400+ posts)
Very warped logic . Convenient and self serving fallacy. One can't swing both ways.
Either you believe in it or you don't.....you can't pick and choose and then come up with seld assuring rationalisations. Same could be said about ham, wine etc. They too are creatures ....why not love as well then? I won't argue any further because there is no name for someone who believe in fairies .

Wait a minute? Who said we don't like swine? It is an animal and a creature of God. WE DO NOT LIKE EATING IT because we have our reasons. You cannot label a man muslim who hates eating ham and pork. There are literally millions in the world especially in the west who don't like eating pork in fact they abhor it. They are perhaps, a billion, who hate wine and any other intoxicating drinks.

Stop going sideways. Come to the point. What exactly do you want to say? Or are you among those who think criticising Islam is the new cool and a way to uphold scientific research which people like you consider as an opposite to any or all religions? Science is a vehicle that cannot run on water. Physics is amazing but it is nothing in front of metaphysics.

My views are exact Islam and the belief it teaches. Many a Muslims fail to recognize that. There is no swinging both ways. We accept all things as God-made..

Care to argue on darwinism.. ? eh?

I can go on and on. In fact, I can successfully annihilate your entire belief system in, say, 10 minutes.
 

Eyeaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Very warped logic .
Yes but that's within binary-logic: -But how far logic go? Rationalism (as a philosophy and method of knowledge) is a grand failure and false. Science is not based on logic or rationalism but on data and experimentation (and due to unknown and illogical mysterious reasons on mathematics) - (mathematics is logical but then there is many kinds of logic and logic is a part of mathematics (circular?) any way mathematics is product of human minds and maybe rationalism - Science is not)
Science is empiricism within well-defined and well-posed questions and tests .It is about experiments and about consensus among the practitioners about the interpretation of the results.

Science is not a belief but a consensus about the interpretations of results subject to constant change and improvement. Nothing less and nothing more - ever. (for example about interpretations, both Newton and Darwin were False ;Advent of genetics and relatively have PROOVED that Newtonian mechanic an Darwinist' survival of the fittest' were WRONG (in theory or as a fact but we may use them for approximations)
Each and every well-posed and well-defined question is limited to its own assumptions, premises, category and domain and cannot be extrapolated beyond that. It is wrong and absurd to carryout such an extrapolation. Opinions one may have many but opinions are not science.
And never to ignore the fact that well-posed and well defined questions results from the existing data and existing techniques of mathematics - new mathematics and new data with new techniques of measurements -> new questions -> new theories -> new consensus among the scientific community.
 
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NCP123

Senator (1k+ posts)
YE HOODBHOY Chala houaa KARTOOS hey kehney do becharey ku ju kehta hey......es ne bohat se loug BEY Deen keyey hein...es ke saath es kaa eik dum chulaa houtaa thaa Abdul Hameed NAyyaer (A.H.Nayyer) wu es se bhi burh ker drama hey......
 

saadmahhmood83

Minister (2k+ posts)
پچانویں فیصد جدید بیائیولوجسٹ آج بھی ایولوشنری تھوری کو درست مانتے ہیں چند ایک بائیولوجسٹ کی رائے لکھ کر کہہ دینا کہ نئے بائیولوجسٹ ایولوشن کو ریجیکٹ کرتے ہیں اور جدید بائیولوجی ایولوشن کا غلط مانتی یے لہذا ہود بھائی کو نئی سانئنسی تھیوریز کا علم نہیں سراسر جھوٹ ہے۔۔۔
ہمیشہ سے ہی 5 فیصد سائنٹسٹ ایولوشن یا نیو ڈارون ازم پر سوال اٹھاتے رہتے ہیں اور باقی کے 95 فیصد (جدید) بائیولوجسٹ اس ڈارون کی تھوری کے حق میں بھی اپنی ریسرچز پیش کرتے رہتے ہیں ۔۔۔لہذا یہ کوئی نئی بات نہیں مگر اجماع بائیولوجسٹ یہی ہے کہ ایولوشنری تھوری درست ہے۔۔۔درست نہ ماننے والے بائیولوجسٹ شاز ہیں
 

rahail

MPA (400+ posts)
پچانویں فیصد جدید بیائیولوجسٹ آج بھی ایولوشنری تھوری کو درست مانتے ہیں چند ایک بائیولوجسٹ کی رائے لکھ کر کہہ دینا کہ نئے بائیولوجسٹ ایولوشن کو ریجیکٹ کرتے ہیں اور جدید بائیولوجی ایولوشن کا غلط مانتی یے لہذا ہود بھائی کو نئی سانئنسی تھیوریز کا علم نہیں سراسر جھوٹ ہے۔۔۔
ہمیشہ سے ہی 5 فیصد سائنٹسٹ ایولوشن یا نیو ڈارون ازم پر سوال اٹھاتے رہتے ہیں اور باقی کے 95 فیصد (جدید) بائیولوجسٹ اس ڈارون کی تھوری کے حق میں بھی اپنی ریسرچز پیش کرتے رہتے ہیں ۔۔۔لہذا یہ کوئی نئی بات نہیں مگر اجماع بائیولوجسٹ یہی ہے کہ ایولوشنری تھوری درست ہے۔۔۔درست نہ ماننے والے بائیولوجسٹ شاز ہیں

Aisa he hai lakin sawal yeh hai kay kia app is evolutionary theory ko mante hain? Biologists ko apna pata nahin hota.. un kay saari ki saari daleenain bohat kamzoor hain.. For example neanderthals. Is par tou meri bhi thori bohat research hai. Two minutes mein un ko chup kara diya tha.. Confuse ho gaye thay..
 
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