WHY ZAID HAMID WAS TRAPPED BY YOUSUF KAZAB

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: ANOTHER REASON: WHY ZAID HAMID WAS TRAPPED BY YOUSUF KAZ

Pakistani1947 said:
It is very important to have correct Islamic believes otherwise there are very serious implications. For example, the correct Islamic believe is that we cannot see Prophet Muhammad (??? ???? ???? ???? ????) in a dream. In fact, the Bukhari hadith says that whoever sees Muhammad (??? ???? ???? ???? ????) in a dream has seen him in wakefulness. Since none of us have seen him in wakefulness, we cant see him in a dream. ...............



Alhamdulillah-i-rabbil alameen. I have seen in my dreams:

Aqa (s.a.w.)---- 5 or 6 times

Ibrahim (alaihissaalam): once

Musa (alaihissaalam): once

My dua is with Allah that I see Isa (alaihissaalam), and Ismaeel Ibrahim (alaihissaalam) before pass on, for only Allah knows if I will ever be forgiven...

I know there is a hadith: Shaitan does not have any power to duplicate any of the nabis or rasuls (alaihi-mu-ssaalam) in flesh or in dream. He is just not been empowered.

So based on the ahadeeth in your thread what have I seen??

Even if I have seen their (alaihi-mu-ssaalam) sketches or 'khaka', good enough for me and its been trememndous honor and previledge, alhamdulillah
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: ANOTHER REASON: WHY ZAID HAMID WAS TRAPPED BY YOUSUF KAZ

Dear Gazoo,

You are right following is the Hadeeth you are referring to:

It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah said: I heard the Prophet (??? ???? ???? ???? ????) say: Whoever sees me in a dream will see me when he is awake; the Shaytaan cannot take my shape.
(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 6592; Muslim, 2266)

Based on the very clear message in the above ahadith, we can state that only those people could dream about the Prophet (??? ???? ???? ???? ????) who had seen him in wakefulness, i.e. in real life. This is very very important. If Satan had been able to impersonate the Prophet (??? ???? ???? ???? ????), he could misguide the Sahaba (RA). Similarly, Sahaba (RA) could be sure they had indeed seen the Nabi (??? ???? ???? ???? ????) because they knew what he looked like! Thus, both conditions are met: Satan cant impersonate Muhammad (??? ???? ???? ???? ????), and the dreamer can be certain this is the case precisely because he knows what Nabi (??? ???? ???? ???? ???? looked like.
 

saynotwar

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Re: ANOTHER REASON: WHY ZAID HAMID WAS TRAPPED BY YOUSUF KAZ

pakistani1947

AL-BAQRA 257
There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Tght[] and believes in Allh, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allh is All-Hearer, All-Knower. (256) Allh is the Wal (Protector or Guardian) of those who believe. He brings them out from darkness into light. But as for those who disbelieve, their Auliy (supporters and helpers) are Tght [false deities and false leaders], they bring them out from light into darkness. Those are the dwellers of the Fire, and they will abide therein forever. (see v.2:81,82) (257)

CHECK THE BOLD PART - TRY FOR THE HANDHOLD YOU WILL GET ALL THE ANSWERS AND ALL YOUR CONFUSION WILL REMOVED -HE IS THE OWNER OF THIS RELIGION HE WILL GUIDE YOU DONT WORRY! JUST DEVELOP YOUR GOOD RELATIONSHIP HE WILL NOT DISAPPOINT YOU [hmmm]
 

Knowledge Seeker

Senator (1k+ posts)
Pakistani1947 said:
Have you ever thought....

- Why people like Yusuf Kazab managed to fool educated Muslims like Zaid Hamid?

- Why we see Shirk around Mazars and Durgahs? Why Allah did not give power to Muhammad (??? ???? ???? ???? ????) to have knowledge of unseen (??? ?????)but still there are Muslims who believe that Peer, Walis, Durwaish has the knowledge of unseen (??? ?????) despite the Qur'aanic verse: Say: None in the heavens and the earth knows the Ghaib (Unseen) except Allaah, nor can they perceive when they shall be resurrected [al-Naml 27:65] ?

- Why some Muslims believe that Muhammad (??? ???? ???? ???? ????) is still alive even though Abu Bakr (Razi Allah Talah Anhum) declared after the death of prophet that Prophet Muhammad (??? ???? ???? ???? ????) is dead and read the Quraanic verses. "And Muhammad is no more than a messenger; the messengers have already passed away before him; if then he dies or is killed will you turn back upon your heels? And whoever turns back upon his heels!s, he will by no means do harm to Allah in the least and Allah will reward the grateful." (Quraan 3.144)

- Why, when the army of Aisha (Razi Allah Talah Anhum) and Alis (Razi Allah Talah Anhum) were face to face, Muhammad (??? ???? ???? ???? ????) did not came into the dream of anyone to avoid that war.

- Why cant we find any authentic Hadeeth to support Sufism and all the Shirkia act Muslims are doing today.

There is only one answer Muslims are deviating from the straight path because of Shirk, innovations, leaving the Qur'aan and the Sunnah (??? ???? ???? ???? ????)

JUST THINK ABOUT IT...IF INTELECTUAL LIKE ZAID HAMID CAN BE TRAPPED BY YOUSUF KAZAB..... THEN WHAT ABOUT INNOCENT AND JAHIL AWAM....

There is only one answer It is only Qur'aan and the Sunnah that can keep Muslim united and avoid them from deviating from the stright path"

Ibn Mas'ood said: "The Messenger of Allaah drew a line for us and then said: 'This is the Straight Path of Allaah.' And he drew lines on the left and right of it, and then said: 'These are paths of which there is not one except that there is a devil upon it calling towards it.' Then he recited the statements of Allaah (Surat-ul-Ana'aam [3:153]): 'And verily, this is My Straight Path, so follow it, and do not follow (other) paths for they will separate you away from His path." (An authentic hadeeth recorded by Ahmad and An-Nasaa'ee.)

Please click following link to read full article:
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=19338" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What is your agenda to Copy-past information most of the time on this forum against Tasawwaf and beliefs of other Schools of Thought??
 

Afsr

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: ANOTHER REASON: WHY ZAID HAMID WAS TRAPPED BY YOUSUF KAZ

Pakistani1947 said:
To conclude:

We cannot see Prophet Muhammad (??? ???? ???? ???? ????) in a dream. In fact, the Bukhari hadith mentioned earlier says that whoever sees Muhammad (S.A.W) in a dream has seen him in wakefulness. Since none of us have seen him in wakefulness, we cant see him in a dream.

The very serious implication of holding this belief is that many hopefuls have launched their religious careers (fan following) by making this claim. Almost all our Sufi saints have established their credibility, and their thrones, by doing this. They first claim to have seen the Prophet (S.A.W), then they say they are in direct contact with him, then they claim they have been divinely inspired, and then they build their economic empires which they leave to their successors.

It is due to this severe and far reaching consequence that we need to set the record straight and prove to readers that is it NOT possible to see Muhammad (S.A.W) in our dreams, since we have neither seen him in his life, nor will we see him in our wakefulness. This is in strict accordance with the Bukhari ahadith above.

Asalam o Alekum my dear brother Pakistani1947

With the name of Allah, Praise and thanks are due to Him, and may Allah, raise the rank of our beloved Prophet Muhammad, his kind relatives and companions and protect his nation from that which he feared for them. (ameen)
The Messenger of Allah, Sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam, said: the one who sees me in a dream has truly seen me for indeed the devil can not take my shape to deceive people.
Mentioned in the Hadith Shall really see me while awake refers to an actual and real seeing of the Prophet while awake before death.
How can we not yearn for Prophet Muhammad sallallahu ^alayhi wasallam when he (SAW) is the one who said: [Whoever sees me in a dream shall really see me while awake.]
This means that the one who sees the Messenger of Allah sallallahu ^alayhi wasallam in the dream, receives the glad tidings of dying as a believer.
We ask Allah to grant us seeing our beloved and choicest prophet Muhammad in our dream tonight. (ameen)

Watch this video at u tube plz.
I saw Nabi Muhammad (s.a.w.) in my dreams ( by: Sheikh Muhammad Hassan )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX48sFSuLdg
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
My Dear brother Knowledge Seeker,

I apologize if my thread has hurt anybody's feeling. The intention is to make Muslim united and requesting them to follow only one path which is Qur'aan and Sunnah (??? ???? ???? ???? ????).

I do not have any ill agenda other than pointing my fellow Muslims towards the straight path. You can not debate with people who invented different school of thoughts but you can try to bring Muslims who are blindingly following different school of thoughts without doing any research, they are unaware that some of their believes are very clearly against Qur'aan and authentic Ahahdeeth . Many of us believe that Prophet Muhammad is alive just because their ancestors and their peer, durwaish and wali believes so. Just think about it, wasn't it the case with people of Mecca when Prophet Muhammad (??? ???? ???? ???? ????)was showing people of Mecca the straight path.

As a Muslim this is our responsibility to search for the knowledge and you cant get correct knowledge by just blindly following peer, durwaish and wali. You need to read and UNDERSTAND Qur'aan and read Ahadeeth.

Allah said: And We have indeed made the Quran easy to understand and remember, then is there any that will remember (or receive admonition)? (Quran 54:17)

You cant just keep on rejecting Qur'aanic verses and authentic Ahadeeth just because they do not match with what your peer, durwaish and wali is saying.
 

drkjke

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
saynotwar said:
WHat is sufism!

Make Relationship with ALLAH - body and soul


IN SUFISM YOU LOOK AT THE SKY FOR GUIDANCE
AND LOOK ON EARTH FOR GOOD DEEDS.

THIS IS IT! ALL THE STORIES DANCE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SUFISM

YAHAN LOG ALLAH KEY NAAM PAR BHE PESA LETE HAIN
AUR DEEN KO ALAG BADNAM KARTAY HAIN! [wall]

SUFISM IS NOT TELLING YOU TO DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY BUT BRING IMPROVEMENT
AND PURITY IN YOUR PRAYERS. [hmmm]


sufism is all bakwaas
if sufism was the right way of life than prophet sallalah u alihe wasallum himself would have chosen this way of life
remember that our prophet (s a w )was perfect human.whatever way of life he chose nothing can be better than that
prophet (s a w )married ,had kids ,fought wars ,built mosques,did business,but all his life was an alive demonstartion of quran

now thats the way to live
not sufism which is mostly an astray lifestyle
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: ANOTHER REASON: WHY ZAID HAMID WAS TRAPPED BY YOUSUF KAZ

saynotwar said:
pakistani1947

AL-BAQRA 257
There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Tght[] and believes in Allh, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allh is All-Hearer, All-Knower. (256) Allh is the Wal (Protector or Guardian) of those who believe. He brings them out from darkness into light. But as for those who disbelieve, their Auliy (supporters and helpers) are Tght [false deities and false leaders], they bring them out from light into darkness. Those are the dwellers of the Fire, and they will abide therein forever. (see v.2:81,82) (257)

CHECK THE BOLD PART - TRY FOR THE HANDHOLD YOU WILL GET ALL THE ANSWERS AND ALL YOUR CONFUSION WILL REMOVED -HE IS THE OWNER OF THIS RELIGION HE WILL GUIDE YOU DONT WORRY! JUST DEVELOP YOUR GOOD RELATIONSHIP HE WILL NOT DISAPPOINT YOU [hmmm]

Dear Saynotwar,

You have quoted a Quraanic verse to support your argument. Following are the pages form Tafseer Ibn-e-Kaseer :

Ayah 256-257: Surah Al-Baqarah



The Quraanic verse # 256 quoted by you. Ibn-e-Kaseer described an Hadeeth under Tafseer of this Ayah. The Hadith refer toseeing of Prophet Muhammad (??? ???? ???? ???? ????) in dream by a Sahaba (RA) and it clearly mention near the bottom of page 368 that " main Ney Hazoor ki mojoodgi main kuwab Dekha Tha" (??? ?? ???? ?? ??????? ??? ???? ????? ???). Hence it further confirms the argument that a only Muslim who has seen Prophet Muhammad (??? ???? ???? ???? ????) alive can only see him (??? ???? ???? ???? ????) in their dreams. I hope that Tafseer of the Ayah 256 -257 will Insha-Allah open your heart and you will be able to resolve any confusion in your mind. Insha-Allah

May Allah give Hidaya to all of us (Aameen).
 

Knowledge Seeker

Senator (1k+ posts)
Pakistani1947 said:
My Dear brother Knowledge Seeker,

I apologize if my thread has hurt anybody's feeling. The intention is to make Muslim united and requesting them to follow only one path which is Qur'aan and Sunnah (??? ???? ???? ???? ????).

Thanks for your reply. I appreciate your intention for the unity of Muslims. Brother, we should really be very careful when discussing the differences in people.

Allah said: And We have indeed made the Quran easy to understand and remember, then is there any that will remember (or receive admonition)? (Quran 54:17)

Brother, Please be careful about the correct translation when quoting Quran.

You cant just keep on rejecting Qur'aanic verses and authentic Ahadeeth just because they do not match with what your peer, durwaish and wali is saying.

Add Islamic Scholars as well.
 

Knowledge Seeker

Senator (1k+ posts)
Pakistani1947 said:
There is only one answer Muslims are deviating from the straight path because of Shirk, innovations, leaving the Qur'aan and the Sunnah (??? ???? ???? ???? ????)

The statement is very harsh regarding Muslims. Nowadays, Even some Scholars are too quick to declare Muslims as mushrik and kafir.
 

wsher

Citizen
Main aaj yahan aik discussion kerna chahta hoon. Main chahoon ga ke aap sab urdu mein jawab dein ta ke jin logon ko English samajh nahi aati woh aasani se samajh sakein. Mere kuch sawal hain aap sab se jo main aik Musalman bhai ke tor pe poochna chahta hoon.

Kya yeh jaaiz hai ke kisi musalman pe kufr ka fatwa de diya jaye jab ke woh insane sab ke samney aa ke apne aqeedey ka ayelaan ker de?

Kya yeh jaaiz hai ke hum ucc insane ko sunaney ke baad be ucc ke khilaaf propaganda kerte rahein?

Kya yeh kisi Musalman ko ijaazat deta hai ke jo maamlaat Allah aur aik insane ke beech ke hain un mein dakhal andaazi karey?

Jab aik Musalman Khilafat ki baat karey Allah ke deen ki serparasti ki baat karey kya yeh jaaiz hai ke hum ucc ki mukhalfat karein?

Mera aik sawal jo sab se ahem hai Jaamat e Islami se hai ke inn logon ko yeh haq kiss ne diya key eh kisi insane pe kufr ka fatwa lagayein? Yeh khud tu Zardari jaise logon ke saath mil ke government banatey hain corruption mein be involve hain aur aaj tak in mein se kisi ne hakoomat ke khilaf awaz e haq buland nahi ki? Aaj tak in mein se kisi ne hakoomat se alag honey ke liye asteefa nahi diya? Inhon ne ghareef awam se saath kitna acha salook kiya hai?

Pehle tu yeh loog yeh daawa kerte rahe ke Zaid Hamid hakoomat ke saath mila hua hai lekin yeh baat kitni bewakoofana hai jo insane be aisi hakoomat ko support karey ga woh in ki so called democracy ki baat karey ga na ke Khilafat ki?

Aur yeh loog khud kyon bhaag bhaag ke gaye Shehbaz Sharif ke paas ta ke NOC cancel kerwaya jaye Zaid Hamid ke mission ka?

Let us suppose ager hum Zaid Hamid ka saath dete hain aur woh icc mulak mein Nizaam e Khilafat qaim ker de aur icc mulak ko Allah ke qanoon ke mutabik bana de tu humein aur kya chahye?

Zaid Hamid kya ker sakta hai icc government se zayada bura kya ho ga?

Akhari aur ahem sawal ager Zaid Hamid itna hi bura hai tu Indians ucc ke itne khilaaf kyon hain? Woh kyon mer rahe hain ucc ka naam sun sun ke?


Allah pe barosa karein mere bhai aur Allah sab ke dilon ka haal jananey wala hai kuch faisley Allah pe chorein. Jo maamley Allah aur aik insane ke dermiyaan hain ucc se door rahein. Apni neeyat theek ker lein aur Amal ka daar o midaar niyaton pe hai.

Allah hum sab ko hidayat de! Ameen
 

Back
Top