Why statues of Maharaja Ranjit Singh must be erected in Pakistan

[Citizen X]

I know there are some Pathans who make fun of punjabis and look down at them but they are in minority & such stupid people exist in every society and ethnicity.

I wouldn't say some, I would say many. Even today I have so called Pathan friends and this goes on right in front of my face and for someone reason whenever I am introduced to someone or even mentioned over the phone to someone. De punjabiyaan da is the first thing to be said as some kind of qualifier or adjective about me?

Just check punjabi theatre dramas and tv shows where they regularly ridicule Pathans and use disrespectful and judgmental remarks.

With just as many about Sikhs, so at the very least we are equal opportunist racists. Urdu speaking people have so many jokes about us "paindos" because every Punjabi to them is a paindo, so what?

 

[A.G.Uddin]

آپکی بات کو آگے بڑھاتے ہوئے۔۔

یہ نہیں کہ سارے پنجابی ایسا سوچتے ہیں۔۔۔۔ یہ بس دو چار لبڑل ہیں جن کی ٹوئی کی خارش انہیں چین سے بیٹھنے نہیں دیتی۔۔

ان خچروں کو کوئی پاکستان ہجرت کرتے مسلمانوں کی حالت دکھائے۔۔ اگر اُن پنجابیوں کو اپنی ریس سے پیار ہوتا تو وہ وہیں رہ جاتے۔۔ انہوں نے اپنےدین کے لیئے ہجرت کی ۔۔یہ ان پنجابیوں کی شہادتوں کی توہین کرتے ہیں۔۔ بدبخت خچر جاہل۔۔​

I am not urdu speaking so I can’t speak for them. I am pathan and I consider myself Pakistani first and then pathan. I don’t favour afghanis nor do I like them much. Most of them are namak Haram and jahil people.
This is a fact that you guys love & respect Sikhs and other Indians more than your fellow Pakistanis.
You ridicule other ethnicities & make fun of them but if someone makes a little fun of punjabis then you become defensive and can’t take any jokes.
I have spent time with Punjabis in uni & hostel. 90% of the time they talk about their zaat, biradari and other such stupid stuff. This shows their stupid and backward mentality.
I am pretty sure if there is ever a conflict between me and a Sikh, you will always side with the Sikhs and Indians.

I wouldn't say some, I would say many. Even today I have so called Pathan friends and this goes on right in front of my face and for someone reason whenever I am introduced to someone or even mentioned over the phone to someone. De punjabiyaan da is the first thing to be said as some kind of qualifier or adjective about me?



With just as many about Sikhs, so at the very least we are equal opportunist racists. Urdu speaking people have so many jokes about us "paindos" because every Punjabi to them is a paindo, so what?

To jani1 and Modest ,

Did you check videos by Pathan Bhai and Afghan Bhaijaan on YouTube.....Look at the amount of venom they have for people of Pakistan. Did you forget how Afghan fans attacked Pakistanis during World Cup match back in 2019, and they're proud of it. On social media these supporters of Ashraf Ghani side with Modibhakts (from India) while using hashtags against Pakistan. Anytime a Pakistani becomes a victim of hate crime or Pakistan is negatively portrayed in Hollywood flicks then many Afghans laugh like Hyenas. And you are still believing in Ummah ka Chummah.
My point is pretty simple. If they have no problem with praising Narendra Modi despite his association with RSS then what's wrong with erecting statues of Maharaja Ranjit Singh in Pakistan (despite claims about his tortures against Muslims which are disputed).

As I mentioned earlier, I am NOT A PUNJABI but a Muhajir. My grandfather was born in Bidar which is now in Karnataka state, but used to be in princely state of Hyderabad till 1948. Moreover, partition would lead to massive displacement and bloodshed with division of Punjab however that all happened decades after end of Sikh Empire.

I have got no problem with likes of Jehangir Khan, Jan Sher Khan, Shahid Afridi, Col. Lalik Jan and other patriotic Pashtuns who contributed towards Pakistan but these PTM and Achakzai type crooks need to receive a psychological treatment together with TLP and TTP. Even pro-Pakistan Pashtuns are 'Gul Khans' as per supporters of Loya Afghanistan. In Saudi Arabia last year these nationalist Afghans would argue with a patriotic Pakistani Pashtun through net and later on injure him after actual faceoff. It was not even a one-on-one fight but they ganged up on him......Tell me how should I feel about it?

Celebrating Ranjit Singh's legacy will kill two birds with the same stone. I don't want to stereotype all Afghans either but to tackle aggressive attitude of hostile Afghans (whether Ghani lovers or Talibans) we need to develop a different attitude

 

[MADdoo]

our bharat maata will never tell you that 99 kargi war was not about tiger hill. Point 5353 was also captured by Pakistan and still is with Pakistan...

Bangladesh was the fine example of ENDIAN Terrorist mindset we had 32K soldiers who fought 450K EndiAn soldres and makti bahini terrorists in east Pakistan...

in West Pakistan you were just as duffer as in 65....

yar tum logon ka prob ha agar koi marzi k khilaf baat karay to wo opposite party ka ho jata.
Matlab jo PTI p right criticism karay wo PMLn ka supporter ha. ARMY p karay to endian ha.
good for you to live your own illusions.

 

[Citizen X]

yar tum logon ka prob ha agar koi marzi k khilaf baat karay to wo opposite party ka ho jata.
Matlab jo PTI p right criticism karay wo PMLn ka supporter ha. ARMY p karay to endian ha.
good for you to live your own illusions.

No such thing as tolerance for a different POV in Pakistan.

 

[aqibarain]

yar tum logon ka prob ha agar koi marzi k khilaf baat karay to wo opposite party ka ho jata.
Matlab jo PTI p right criticism karay wo PMLn ka supporter ha. ARMY p karay to endian ha.
good for you to live your own illusions.

i did not call you from opposition... you are an Indian dog or their sympathizer... I just put you back in your hole where you came from...

 

[Modest]

I wouldn't say some, I would say many. Even today I have so called Pathan friends and this goes on right in front of my face and for someone reason whenever I am introduced to someone or even mentioned over the phone to someone. De punjabiyaan da is the first thing to be said as some kind of qualifier or adjective about me?



With just as many about Sikhs, so at the very least we are equal opportunist racists. Urdu speaking people have so many jokes about us "paindos" because every Punjabi to them is a paindo, so what?

So what do you think how Pathans are introduced and treated by punjabis?
The way punjabis behave when you meet a bunch of them. Aap pathan ho, ye pathan hai, rather than introducing by name, they will say ye pathan Bhai hai as if we are some other creatures.

Some stupid punjabis will even randomly start their typical Punjabi jokes about Pathans without even knowing you and if we make a little joke about punjabis they get angry and defensive. If you can’t take it don’t start it and learn some respect which is beyond many punjabis.

Racism is more common in punjabis than any other ethnicity in Pakistan. Their disrespectful and zaat biradari attitude has confined their mentality to a very narrow mindset.

 

[Citizen X]

Racism is more common in punjabis than any other ethnicity in Pakistan.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to and I have my own and I am entitled to it too, you don't have to agree with mine and I don't have to agree with yours

 

[Modest]

To jani1 and Modest ,

Did you check videos by Pathan Bhai and Afghan Bhaijaan on YouTube.....Look at the amount of venom they have for people of Pakistan. Did you forget how Afghan fans attacked Pakistanis during World Cup match back in 2019, and they're proud of it. On social media these supporters of Ashraf Ghani side with Modibhakts (from India) while using hashtags against Pakistan. Anytime a Pakistani becomes a victim of hate crime or Pakistan is negatively portrayed in Hollywood flicks then many Afghans laugh like Hyenas. And you are still believing in Ummah ka Chummah.
My point is pretty simple. If they have no problem with praising Narendra Modi despite his association with RSS then what's wrong with erecting statues of Maharaja Ranjit Singh in Pakistan (despite claims about his tortures against Muslims which are disputed).

As I mentioned earlier, I am NOT A PUNJABI but a Muhajir. My grandfather was born in Bidar which is now in Karnataka state, but used to be in princely state of Hyderabad till 1948. Moreover, partition would lead to massive displacement and bloodshed with division of Punjab however that all happened decades after end of Sikh Empire.

I have got no problem with likes of Jehangir Khan, Jan Sher Khan, Shahid Afridi, Col. Lalik Jan and other patriotic Pashtuns who contributed towards Pakistan but these PTM and Achakzai type crooks need to receive a psychological treatment together with TLP and TTP. Even pro-Pakistan Pashtuns are 'Gul Khans' as per supporters of Loya Afghanistan. In Saudi Arabia last year these nationalist Afghans would argue with a patriotic Pakistani Pashtun through net and later on injure him after actual faceoff. It was not even a one-on-one fight but they ganged up on him......Tell me how should I feel about it?

Celebrating Ranjit Singh's legacy will kill two birds with the same stone. I don't want to stereotype all Afghans either but to tackle aggressive attitude of hostile Afghans (whether Ghani lovers or Talibans) we need to develop a different attitude

We didn’t mention any love for afghanis nor do we like them. Afghanis are namak Haram people. They are enemies of Pakistan like Indians and we equally hate them both. We are Pathans and we love our countrymen more than anyone.

On the other hand you punjabis love to worship Sikhs and Indians. You guys are more loyal to foreigners than your own countrymen.

You love Ranjit Singh more than your own muslim heroes.
May be you are a Hindu pretending to be a Pakistani Muslim on this forum.
No one can trust you cunning Endians.

 

[jani1]

تم رنجیتے کا پتلا لگاتے لگاتے افغانستان کہاں پہنچ گئے۔۔اور پشتونوں کا قصہ کدھر سے لے آئے۔۔

کیا تم جواب دے سکتے ہو کہ انہی سکھوں نے تقسیم ہند کے وقت مسلمان پنجابیوں کے ساتھ کیا کیا تھا؟
کس طرح خواتین کی شرم گاہوں میں لکڑیاں گھسا کر انہیں شہید کیا تھا۔۔ کس طرح مردوں کی شرم گاہوں کو کاٹ کاٹ کر انہوں مار دیا تھا۔۔

کیا تم بے شرم ہو یا بالکل ہی بے غیرت یا پھر تاریخ سے نابلد۔۔۔۔۔یہ سوال ہے، الزام نہیں۔
پنجابی مسلمان سے تمہیں ہمدردی نہیں تو اردو بولنے والوں سے تو ہوگی۔۔ انہیں کس بے دردی سے مارا تھا انہوں نے۔۔تم انہیں اب ہمارا ہیرو بتاتے ہو۔۔ جاو شرم کرو۔۔

پٹھان کون ہیں۔۔ جہنوں نے پاکستان بنانے میں اپنا خون دیا ۔۔ کشمیریوں کی پکار پر پہنچے اور وہاں بھی شہادتیں دیں۔۔

معظرت کے ساتھ۔۔۔۔تم تاریخ سے نابلد کوئی بچے ہو۔۔ یا کوئی ہندوتوا کے مارے انڈین۔۔ یا مخصوص فرقے کے پروپیگنڈہ کے اہل کار۔
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To jani1 and Modest ,

Did you check videos by Pathan Bhai and Afghan Bhaijaan on YouTube.....Look at the amount of venom they have for people of Pakistan. Did you forget how Afghan fans attacked Pakistanis during World Cup match back in 2019, and they're proud of it. On social media these supporters of Ashraf Ghani side with Modibhakts (from India) while using hashtags against Pakistan. Anytime a Pakistani becomes a victim of hate crime or Pakistan is negatively portrayed in Hollywood flicks then many Afghans laugh like Hyenas. And you are still believing in Ummah ka Chummah.
My point is pretty simple. If they have no problem with praising Narendra Modi despite his association with RSS then what's wrong with erecting statues of Maharaja Ranjit Singh in Pakistan (despite claims about his tortures against Muslims which are disputed).

As I mentioned earlier, I am NOT A PUNJABI but a Muhajir. My grandfather was born in Bidar which is now in Karnataka state, but used to be in princely state of Hyderabad till 1948. Moreover, partition would lead to massive displacement and bloodshed with division of Punjab however that all happened decades after end of Sikh Empire.

I have got no problem with likes of Jehangir Khan, Jan Sher Khan, Shahid Afridi, Col. Lalik Jan and other patriotic Pashtuns who contributed towards Pakistan but these PTM and Achakzai type crooks need to receive a psychological treatment together with TLP and TTP. Even pro-Pakistan Pashtuns are 'Gul Khans' as per supporters of Loya Afghanistan. In Saudi Arabia last year these nationalist Afghans would argue with a patriotic Pakistani Pashtun through net and later on injure him after actual faceoff. It was not even a one-on-one fight but they ganged up on him......Tell me how should I feel about it?

Celebrating Ranjit Singh's legacy will kill two birds with the same stone. I don't want to stereotype all Afghans either but to tackle aggressive attitude of hostile Afghans (whether Ghani lovers or Talibans) we need to develop a different attitude

​

 

[jani1]

To jani1 and Modest ,

Did you check videos by Pathan Bhai and Afghan Bhaijaan on YouTube.....Look at the amount of venom they have for people of Pakistan. Did you forget how Afghan fans attacked Pakistanis during World Cup match back in 2019, and they're proud of it. On social media these supporters of Ashraf Ghani side with Modibhakts (from India) while using hashtags against Pakistan. Anytime a Pakistani becomes a victim of hate crime or Pakistan is negatively portrayed in Hollywood flicks then many Afghans laugh like Hyenas. And you are still believing in Ummah ka Chummah.
My point is pretty simple. If they have no problem with praising Narendra Modi despite his association with RSS then what's wrong with erecting statues of Maharaja Ranjit Singh in Pakistan (despite claims about his tortures against Muslims which are disputed).

As I mentioned earlier, I am NOT A PUNJABI but a Muhajir. My grandfather was born in Bidar which is now in Karnataka state, but used to be in princely state of Hyderabad till 1948. Moreover, partition would lead to massive displacement and bloodshed with division of Punjab however that all happened decades after end of Sikh Empire.

I have got no problem with likes of Jehangir Khan, Jan Sher Khan, Shahid Afridi, Col. Lalik Jan and other patriotic Pashtuns who contributed towards Pakistan but these PTM and Achakzai type crooks need to receive a psychological treatment together with TLP and TTP. Even pro-Pakistan Pashtuns are 'Gul Khans' as per supporters of Loya Afghanistan. In Saudi Arabia last year these nationalist Afghans would argue with a patriotic Pakistani Pashtun through net and later on injure him after actual faceoff. It was not even a one-on-one fight but they ganged up on him......Tell me how should I feel about it?

Celebrating Ranjit Singh's legacy will kill two birds with the same stone. I don't want to stereotype all Afghans either but to tackle aggressive attitude of hostile Afghans (whether Ghani lovers or Talibans) we need to develop a different attitude

our bharat maata will never tell you that 99 kargi war was not about tiger hill. Point 5353 was also captured by Pakistan and still is with Pakistan...

Bangladesh was the fine example of ENDIAN Terrorist mindset we had 32K soldiers who fought 450K EndiAn soldres and makti bahini terrorists in east Pakistan...

in West Pakistan you were just as duffer as in 65....

Most of the people in Pakistan think Khalil Gibran was Muslim. Dr Abdul Qadir wrote a column in Jang and wrote Khalil Gibran murhoom. Also when Neil Armstrong heard the Azan on moon he converted to Islam . That is the reason he was banned to come in public and never gave any interviews after the moon landing. Lady Diana and Michael Jackson both had converted to Islam, that's why they were assassinated.

Leave aside Genghis and Alexander, the mom dad hye bye Brits invaded entire Muslim world

We didn’t mention any love for afghanis nor do we like them. Afghanis are namak Haram people. They are enemies of Pakistan like Indians and we equally hate them both. We are Pathans and we love our countrymen more than anyone.

On the other hand you punjabis love to worship Sikhs and Indians. You guys are more loyal to foreigners than your own countrymen.

You love Ranjit Singh more than your own muslim heroes.
May be you are a Hindu pretending to be a Pakistani Muslim on this forum.
No one can trust you cunning Endians.

https://siasat.pk/forums/threads/c-wht-kashmiri-patan-is-saying-to-who-wana-install-a-statue-of-ranjeet.809668/