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Why statues of Maharaja Ranjit Singh must be erected in Pakistan
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Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
By Indian muslims he meant us Muslims of the Indian sub continent
Modest
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Some of these idiots whose ancestors came from Indian Punjab are more loyal to Sikhs (nothing against Sikhs) than other Pakistanis.
These rac!st pos disrespect and ridicule non punjabis but lick and worship their own race and ethnicity (Muslims & non Muslims).
Remember these are the same people who butchered each other during partition but now have unprecedented love for each other.
that is his own scientific theory... that doesn't make a difference. he is more than welcome to call himself indian muslims... will they accept him?? do they accept him??e
jani1
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
آپکی بات کو آگے بڑھاتے ہوئے۔۔
یہ نہیں کہ سارے پنجابی ایسا سوچتے ہیں۔۔۔۔ یہ بس دو چار لبڑل ہیں جن کی ٹوئی کی خارش انہیں چین سے بیٹھنے نہیں دیتی۔۔
ان خچروں کو کوئی پاکستان ہجرت کرتے مسلمانوں کی حالت دکھائے۔۔ اگر اُن پنجابیوں کو اپنی ریس سے پیار ہوتا تو وہ وہیں رہ جاتے۔۔ انہوں نے اپنےدین کے لیئے ہجرت کی ۔۔یہ ان پنجابیوں کی شہادتوں کی توہین کرتے ہیں۔۔ بدبخت خچر جاہل۔۔
یہ نہیں کہ سارے پنجابی ایسا سوچتے ہیں۔۔۔۔ یہ بس دو چار لبڑل ہیں جن کی ٹوئی کی خارش انہیں چین سے بیٹھنے نہیں دیتی۔۔
ان خچروں کو کوئی پاکستان ہجرت کرتے مسلمانوں کی حالت دکھائے۔۔ اگر اُن پنجابیوں کو اپنی ریس سے پیار ہوتا تو وہ وہیں رہ جاتے۔۔ انہوں نے اپنےدین کے لیئے ہجرت کی ۔۔یہ ان پنجابیوں کی شہادتوں کی توہین کرتے ہیں۔۔ بدبخت خچر جاہل۔۔
jani1
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
کیا پاکستان ہجرت کرتے مسلمان۔۔۔ جن میں بڑی تعداد پنجابیوں کی بھی تھی۔۔ انہوں نے شہادتیں اس دن کے لیئے دی تھی۔۔
یا وہ اپنے آباو اجداد کے جاہلانہ دین سے نکل کر مومن بن گئے اور اس رب العزت کے دین کی خاطر ہجرت کی اور بہت سارے شہید بھی ہوئے۔۔
آج کے لبڑل جہلا کو اپنی تاریخ پڑھنی چاہیئے۔۔۔۔۔تاکہ ان شہدا کی توہین کرنا بند کریں۔۔۔۔ اور ہندووں و سکھوں کی تاریخ پر فخر کرنے کے بجائے اسلامی تاریخ پر فخر کرنا سیکھیں
یا وہ اپنے آباو اجداد کے جاہلانہ دین سے نکل کر مومن بن گئے اور اس رب العزت کے دین کی خاطر ہجرت کی اور بہت سارے شہید بھی ہوئے۔۔
آج کے لبڑل جہلا کو اپنی تاریخ پڑھنی چاہیئے۔۔۔۔۔تاکہ ان شہدا کی توہین کرنا بند کریں۔۔۔۔ اور ہندووں و سکھوں کی تاریخ پر فخر کرنے کے بجائے اسلامی تاریخ پر فخر کرنا سیکھیں
StarTrooper
MPA (400+ posts)
Well Ranjeet Singh was not Indian he was a Pakistani from Gujranwala nor the partition happened under his rule
StarTrooper
MPA (400+ posts)
Under Ranjeet Singh Muslims Hindus Sikh were all living happily. His Prime Minister was a Muslim.
Modest
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Aap ki baat kafi had tak sahi hai lekin mera experience aur mushahida ye raha hai k ye loag Sikho ko sar aankho par bithate hai lekin pathano aur Urdu speaking ki disrespect karte hai aur un ko ridicule karte hai.
Agar aap yehi kaam inn k sath kare tou ye kehte hai k aap Punjabion se nafrat karte hai?
Khud ye loag doosro ki respect nahi karte lekin doosro se full respect mangte hai.
jani1
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
اسکا آسان حل۔۔
اپنے ایمان کو اتنا مضبوط کریں کہ خود کو اپنی قوم کی بجائے، اپنے دین سے پہچاننے لگیں۔۔
اسطرح ۔ دنیا کی کسی بھی قوم کا مومن ہوگا وہ آپکو بھائی لگے گا۔۔
اور اگر کوئی آپکی قوم سے متعلق بکواس کرے تو یہ سوچ کر درگزر کریں کہ یہ دور جاہلیت میں زندہ ہے۔۔۔جو اسکے اپنے لیئے ہی تباہی ہے۔۔
قومیت اور نسل پرستی میں جینے والوں اور اس پر فخر یا کسی کی تحقیر کرنے کو قرآن نے جاہلیت کے دور کے اثرات سے تشبیح دی ہے۔۔کیونکہ اس رب کی نظر میں نسل نہیں بلکہ عمل سے برتری آتی ہے۔
ایمان کی مضبوطی اپنے دین کے علم سے آئے گی۔۔۔اپنے رب کو پہچاننے سے آئے گی۔۔ قرآن کو ترجمہ و تفسیر کے ساتھ پڑھیں
اپنے ایمان کو اتنا مضبوط کریں کہ خود کو اپنی قوم کی بجائے، اپنے دین سے پہچاننے لگیں۔۔
اسطرح ۔ دنیا کی کسی بھی قوم کا مومن ہوگا وہ آپکو بھائی لگے گا۔۔
اور اگر کوئی آپکی قوم سے متعلق بکواس کرے تو یہ سوچ کر درگزر کریں کہ یہ دور جاہلیت میں زندہ ہے۔۔۔جو اسکے اپنے لیئے ہی تباہی ہے۔۔
قومیت اور نسل پرستی میں جینے والوں اور اس پر فخر یا کسی کی تحقیر کرنے کو قرآن نے جاہلیت کے دور کے اثرات سے تشبیح دی ہے۔۔کیونکہ اس رب کی نظر میں نسل نہیں بلکہ عمل سے برتری آتی ہے۔
ایمان کی مضبوطی اپنے دین کے علم سے آئے گی۔۔۔اپنے رب کو پہچاننے سے آئے گی۔۔ قرآن کو ترجمہ و تفسیر کے ساتھ پڑھیں
Modest
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Mein hamesha apne aap ko muslaman aur Pakistani kehne par fakhar mehsoos karta hoo. Ye loag abhi tak zaat, biradari waghera may zinda hai even the educated ones. Ye samajhte hai k doosro ki disrespect kar ke ye apne aap ko bara sabit kar lenge jo inn ki ghalat fehmi hai.
jani1
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
یہ کوئی انڈین سائیٹ ہے ۔۔ اسی میں دیکھ لیں۔۔ کتنی شہادتیں ہوئی تھیں۔۔ اور یہ کیسے اپنے آباو اجداد کی شہادتوں کی توہین کرتے ہیں۔۔ سکھوں اور ہندووں کو ہیرو بنا کر۔۔۔ جبکہ وہ کب کے مومن بن گئے تھے۔
19 Aug 2021 — ... million people were killed and over ten million crossed the border – Muslims from East Punjab (in India) to West Punjab (in Pakistan),
Punjab 1947: Bloodied and Partitioned by Competing Nationalisms
A rare contemporary report reveals how the Muslim League, Akalis, RSS and Hindu Mahasabha used armed bands to exterminate minorities in targeted areas in their ongoing power struggle – aided by an administration geared not to stop the riots but to spread them.
Modest
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I know muslim Punjabis whose familiarise were slaughtered while migrating from east Punjab to West Punjab (Pakistan). These muslim families were murdered by the same people who they are embracing now. There is nothing wrong in forgetting about such horrible incidents but behaving like as if nothing happened shows how stupid and naive these people are. The worst thing is that these people love Indians more than their fellow Pakistanis.یہ کوئی انڈین سائیٹ ہے ۔۔ اسی میں دیکھ لیں۔۔ کتنی شہادتیں ہوئی تھیں۔۔ اور یہ کیسے اپنے آباو اجداد کی شہادتوں کی توہین کرتے ہیں۔۔ سکھوں اور ہندووں کو ہیرو بنا کر۔۔۔ جبکہ وہ کب کے مومن بن گئے تھے۔
19 Aug 2021 — ... million people were killed and over ten million crossed the border – Muslims from East Punjab (in India) to West Punjab (in Pakistan),
Punjab 1947: Bloodied and Partitioned by Competing Nationalisms
A rare contemporary report reveals how the Muslim League, Akalis, RSS and Hindu Mahasabha used armed bands to exterminate minorities in targeted areas in their ongoing power struggle – aided by an administration geared not to stop the riots but to spread them.thewire.in
Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
This is nothing but your Urdu speaking peoples own inferiority complex, same thing can be said about Pathans who favour Afghanis so much. Or Urdu Speaking who favour their own people over everyone else.
Just as an example the amount of Sikh jokes in Punjabi is a testament to that and till date I've not heard a single joke about Urdu speaking people. You still call your self Muhajirs while many more migrated from Punjab but you will never hear them call themselves Muhajirs. Why is this so?
Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
? ? ? ? ? Sigh!
Modest
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I am not urdu speaking so I can’t speak for them. I am pathan and I consider myself Pakistani first and then pathan. I don’t favour afghanis nor do I like them much. Most of them are namak Haram and jahil people.
This is a fact that you guys love & respect Sikhs and other Indians more than your fellow Pakistanis.
You ridicule other ethnicities & make fun of them but if someone makes a little fun of punjabis then you become defensive and can’t take any jokes.
I have spent time with Punjabis in uni & hostel. 90% of the time they talk about their zaat, biradari and other such stupid stuff. This shows their stupid and backward mentality.
I am pretty sure if there is ever a conflict between me and a Sikh, you will always side with the Sikhs and Indians.
Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
I grew up with pathans since the age of 4, meaning to say my dad owned a business that 90% dealt with pathans and majority of our workers were also pathans, so I have been watching listening, working and dealing with them till my 20s. So I am very well familiar with how much they do or don't favour afghanis. Your case might be different or maybe you are from a younger generation there views I'm not familiar with. But what I saw was a clear affiliation and I understand that, since majority of them speak the same language, dress the same, are of the same religion, share the same customs etc etc.
In fact. Pakistani pathans have more in common with Afghanis than they have with other Pakistanis. Similarly due to living for centuries together, sharing the language and region Punjabis have a commonality with Sikhs. But to say they prefer Sikhs over other Pakistanis is absurd and specially "other Indians" is down right insulting.
As if you pathans never make any jokes or ridicule us "Punjabiyaan" many times right on our faces thinking no one understands a word of pashto. As I told you since I was around pathans since the age of 4 not wanting to learn pashto I still picked up quite a lot, never spoke it though so not fluent in it and even more rusty in it now, but can understand enough as to what is going on.
That is a curse I agree, but I noted a similar thing in Pathans, but its more geographically than cast based. Oh he's from mardan, every one from mardan is stupid. Oh he's from swabi, all of them are arseholes. But them also some casts are given respect too. Oh these people are Afridis etc etc.
Basically TBH really honest you will find this everywhere. Regardless if it is Germany, UK or USA to some extent or the other. Canadians are the one people in which I haven't seen this. Maybe because I haven't met enough Canadians.
I had a similar understanding about Pathans and Afghanis until a member here cleared it out. So let me clear this out for you too. I would prefer to save one Pakistani Pathan over all of India's Sikhs and I'm not just saying this.
Every culture has its good and its bad. But thats what makes the world interesting. I know there are no better hosts or mehman nawaz people in the entire world than our Pathan brothers. They will literally give you their house and sleep themselves outside in the cold if you are their guest.
Their code of Pashtunwali is strong. But at their are also somethings I don't like, similarly I don't like many things in our own culture, like you mentioned this zaat paat biradari thing.
Modest
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I reckon the Pathans you grew up with were mostly from tribal areas. Tribal Pathans have more in common with afghanis because of their historic affiliation with Afghanistan.
Pathans from main districts of KPK don’t associate themselves with Afghanistan or afghanis. We gave them shelter in our cities since the 1980s but afghanis are very unthankful people. Our culture, accent, dress code and traditions are very different from afghanis.
For us Pathans our Pakistani brothers are more dearer to us than any afghani.
I know there are some Pathans who make fun of punjabis and look down at them but they are in minority & such stupid people exist in every society and ethnicity.
on the other hand, this racist culture is more rampant among Punjabis. Just check punjabi theatre dramas and tv shows where they regularly ridicule Pathans and use disrespectful and judgmental remarks.
