Why does UAE want to break Pakistan? Why does it support Baluchistan Insurgency?

[Keepinformed]

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So whats the deal with UAE supporting insurgency in Baluchistan? Places like Al Ain, Rasal Khaimah etc fully support the war of independence from Pakistan.

I can take it that Muscat wants Baluchistan because its a Gold mine and these so called stupid Arabs are smarter than us to realize that. Pakistani Government has not been able to take advantage of what Baluchistan is worth neither for us nor for its locals.

It is rumored that most of the oil is actually found below the lands of Baluchistan or that its the largest copper land field in the world.

Under any case we should not be blaming India when our so called brotherhood is stabbing us in the back.

 

[adnan_younus]

i think its because good chunk of balochi population work tehre... specially muscat.. i dont think its a state policy

 

[Keepinformed]

i think its because good chunk of balochi population work tehre... specially muscat.. i dont think its a state policy

I would disagree.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/84902/wikileaks-india-russia-supporting-baloch-insurgency/

A briefing given by the then director general of military operations, Ahmed Shuja Pasha, to parliamentarians has been characterised as being supportive of the US.
According to the WikiLeaks cable, a draft of a presentation shared with the US by National Security Adviser Mahmud Ali Durrani stated that Pakistan had not allowed the US to conduct cross-border operations. Parliamentarians were also told that India and Russia were involved in the insurgency in Balochistan. Pasha said India has established nine training camps along the Afghan border, where they are training members of the Baloch Liberation Army. He also claimed “India and the UAE (reportedly due to opposition to construction of the Gwadar port) were funding and arming the Baloch. Pasha also claimed that the Russian government was directly involved in funding/training/supporting the insurgency.”
Former president Pervez Musharraf had also raised the point with US officials in September 2007. According to a memo, he had asked the US to intervene on “the ‘deliberate’ attempt of Kabul and New Delhi to destabilise Balochistan.”
Musharraf told officials that Pakistan had proof that India and Afghanistan were “involved in efforts to provide weapons, training and funding for Baloch extremists through Brahamdagh Bugti and Baloch Marri, two Baloch nationalists, who were living in Kabul.”
“We have letters instructing who to give what weapons [and] to whom,” he said.
A source who had attended the in-camera session told the US, “Pasha’s briefing consisted mainly of videos and photos of Taliban and other terrorist organisation’s activities that demonstrated the militants were both inhumane and un-Islamic.” According to the source, “At several points, female parliamentarians asked the army to stop showing disturbing footage, including a gory beheading.”
However, the memo notes, Pasha did not mention the threat from Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan leader Baitullah Mehsud, who was killed in a drone strike in August 2009.
In a meeting with US Senators Joe Biden (now US vice president) and Lindsey Graham, Kayani said: “He was painfully aware that the army had to retake South Waziristan since 90 per cent of the suicide bombers came from Baitullah Mehsud.” “He has to be cut down to size,” he said.
Pasha briefed members on what he termed “United States government drone incursions and missile strikes.” The source told the embassy that Pasha praised the US for its support through these methods and showed statistics to parliamentarians that demonstrated the vast majority of those killed in these attacks were either foreign or Taliban fighters.
However, politicians believed that the briefing had not provided any new information. Details of a dinner which was attended by several political leaders in attendance noted that “Pasha, unsurprisingly, defended Pakistan’s sovereignty against US incursions.”
However, they “did not share details from the briefing about foreign fighters killed in the alleged US drone attacks.”
Leaked documents show support from Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani for drone strikes, and that the Pakistan Army asked for US special operations elements to be deployed with the Frontier Corps.
Federally Administered Tribal Areas (Fata) parliamentarians Shaukatullah and Munir Khan Orakzai and Muttahida Qaumi Movement leader Farooq Sattar said at the dinner that they had pointed out during the question-and-answer session in parliament that “not all terrorists were tribals and that the government needed to address growing extremism in Punjab.”
Other details about the Inter-Services Intelligence have also emerged in the leaked documents.
According to an October 2009 memo, ISI director general Pasha had told the US ambassador that he had “followed up on threat information that an attack would be launched against India
between September-November. He had been in direct touch with the Israelis on possible threats against Israeli targets in India.” Pakistan does not recognise Israel as a country.
Published in The Express Tribune, December 3rd, 2010.

 

[D'Invincible]

i think its because good chunk of balochi population work tehre... specially muscat.. i dont think its a state policy

Muscat you mean Oman? but thread is about UAE

 

[pakipunjabi]

A significant proportion of Balochi people live in UAE and Oman, they are called "Al Baloshi" there. They are living there since many many generations and speak Arabic as their mother language and also dress like any arab. I doubt the actual arabic people of UAE have any sentiments for Balochistan, perhaps these "Al Baloshi" people of UAE have some agenda of their own as they trace their origin to Balochistan but then it would also include irani Balochistan.

 

[pakipunjabi]

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So whats the deal with UAE supporting insurgency in Baluchistan? Places like Al Ain, Rasal Khaimah etc fully support the war of independence from Pakistan.

I can take it that Muscat wants Baluchistan because its a Gold mine and these so called stupid Arabs are smarter than us to realize that. Pakistani Government has not been able to take advantage of what Baluchistan is worth neither for us nor for its locals.

It is rumored that most of the oil is actually found below the lands of Baluchistan or that its the largest copper land field in the world.

Under any case we should not be blaming India when our so called brotherhood is stabbing us in the back.

But never the less I know where you are coming from , you belong to the sect/religion of Iran and since these days alot of threads are made against iran so you want to counter them by this kind of BS, but believe me that is not going to change anything for our perception of Iran.

 

[Chaudhry_1960]

I think the real question is; Is Pakistan a nation or it's just a crowd and the answer is it started as a nation but today it's just a crowd where people including the so called self proclaimed leaders only look for their own benefits not national interests.

 

[Keepinformed]

A significant proportion of Balochi people live in UAE and Oman, they are called "Al Baloshi" there. They are living there since many many generations and speak Arabic as their mother language and also dress like any arab. I doubt the actual arabic people of UAE have any sentiments for Balochistan, perhaps these "Al Baloshi" people of UAE have some agenda of their own as they trace their origin to Balochistan but then it would also include irani Balochistan.

Makes more sense. Yup Al Baloshis are well known in the UAE. They are the ones that look all black like africans right??

Even then there is state evidence from intelligence agencies in Pak that UAE is involved and I am sure they have raised this with their royals.

 

[Keepinformed]

But never the less I know where you are coming from , you belong to the sect/religion of Iran and since these days alot of threads are made against iran so you want to counter them by this kind of BS, but believe me that is not going to change anything for our perception of Iran.

You are wrong here. I do not belong to shia sect. I belong to Sunni sect BUT I have a secular belief system so to me it does not matter if one is a muslim, christian, jew, martian etc. Second Iran or Saudi or UAE NO ONE should be allowed to interfere with the local interests of Pakistan period. It just breaks my heart that our so called brothers like UAE, Iran, Saudi are stabbing us in the back.

I will however grant you one thing. I do have a personal agenda against Arabs especially the locals of the UAE due to an incident of a professional nature. This case nevertheless is beyond that comprehension.

 

[dildada]

i think its because good chunk of balochi population work tehre... specially muscat.. i dont think its a state policy

I have no doubt that USA is mastermind behind it and UAE is convinced that if Gawadar port succeeded then no one think about Daubi free port. Baluchistan is the best place that suit USA to control China. Simple Equation !!! but those who think from their stomach cannot understand it.

 

[Keepinformed]

I have no doubt that USA is mastermind behind it and UAE is convinced that if Gawadar port succeeded then no one think about Daubi free port. Baluchistan is the best place that suit USA to control China. Simple Equation !!! but those who think from their stomach cannot understand it.

I also believe the connection is of economic nature. Money is the root of all evil. I do not think USA is involved. If anything it would be Saudi, Iran and UAE fighting for their own religious and economic interests.

No matter what the final victims are baluchis and the state of Pakistan both socially and economically. The fu*k tard arabs will smoke their shishas on our dead bodies.

 

[HAMMER]

Muscat you mean Oman? but thread is about UAE

oman walay kahty hain balochistan un ka hai - aur baloch logoon ko visa k nhi chaiay hota oman k liay-ya boht easily mil jata hai un ko.

 

[Altaf Lutfi]

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So whats the deal with UAE supporting insurgency in Baluchistan? Places like Al Ain, Rasal Khaimah etc fully support the war of independence from Pakistan.

I can take it that Muscat wants Baluchistan because its a Gold mine and these so called stupid Arabs are smarter than us to realize that. Pakistani Government has not been able to take advantage of what Baluchistan is worth neither for us nor for its locals.

It is rumored that most of the oil is actually found below the lands of Baluchistan or that its the largest copper land field in the world.

Under any case we should not be blaming India when our so called brotherhood is stabbing us in the back.

It is highly unfortunate and deplorable to see this site becoming spring board for anti-Pakistani elements, the moderators are to remove threads maligning Pakstan's face. This devlish report is simply fictional. Arab countries may have differences at times with policies of our governments but as a state Pakistan is dear to them all. As for UAE,this brotherly country has always been at forefront to help out Pakistan in difficult times economically and diplomatically.UAE's internal policy is to strictly suppress any political activism by foreigners and it is mere lunatic to assume Balochs can use a place inside UAE as Hyde Park to speak whatever.Nobody can do that. UAE does have concerns about Gawadar Port but thats about competition only, not to the extent of bombing Gawadar or supporting insurgency in Balochistan as tit for tat. Its idiotic to say Ras-al-Khaimah and Al-Ain support Baloch insurgency because both emirates are dependent on funds from Abu-Dhabi and have little say in government. Al-Ain is emirate of the ruling family in Abu-Dhabi and RAK's budget is fully funded by Abu-Dhabi, more to that policy decisions are made by Abu-Dhabi national government, not by emirates in the union. We must remember that Gulf countries in particular and other Arab ststes in general look to Saudi Arabia before taking a political or geostrategic line and Saudi influence is beyond comprehension for tribal linkage to Gulf States and economic supremacy. Saudia has pro-Pakistan stance as basic policy without change for decades. UAE, like Kuwait has developed its alternate economy in parallel to oil earnings and does not need Copper in Balochistan. This negative and fictional article is not factual and lacks basic information by the writer. At the time when US and Israel are fine tuning plans against Iran, Iran shares Pakistan's concerns about Balochistan issue and Arabs are being pressurised by US to help against Iran, this article serves purpose of those who do not like Pakistan's close coordination with brotherly neighbouring Iran, UAE and Oman before Israel takes a chance ahainst Iran.

 

[Keepinformed]

It is highly unfortunate and deplorable to see this site becoming spring board for anti-Pakistani elements, the moderators are to remove threads maligning Pakstan's face. This devlish report is simply fictional. Arab countries may have differences at times with policies of our governments but as a state Pakistan is dear to them all. As for UAE,this brotherly country has always been at forefront to help out Pakistan in difficult times economically and diplomatically.UAE's internal policy is to strictly suppress any political activism by foreigners and it is mere lunatic to assume Balochs can use a place inside UAE as Hyde Park to speak whatever.Nobody can do that. UAE does have concerns about Gawadar Port but thats about competition only, not to the extent of bombing Gawadar or supporting insurgency in Balochistan as tit for tat. Its idiotic to say Ras-al-Khaimah and Al-Ain support Baloch insurgency because both emirates are dependent on funds from Abu-Dhabi and have little say in government. Al-Ain is emirate of the ruling family in Abu-Dhabi and RAK's budget is fully funded by Abu-Dhabi, more to that policy decisions are made by Abu-Dhabi national government, not by emirates in the union. We must remember that Gulf countries in particular and other Arab ststes in general look to Saudi Arabia before taking a political or geostrategic line and Saudi influence is beyond comprehension for tribal linkage to Gulf States and economic supremacy. Saudia has pro-Pakistan stance as basic policy without change for decades. UAE, like Kuwait has developed its alternate economy in parallel to oil earnings and does not need Copper in Balochistan. This negative and fictional article is not factual and lacks basic information by the writer. At the time when US and Israel are fine tuning plans against Iran, Iran shares Pakistan's concerns about Balochistan issue and Arabs are being pressurised by US to help against Iran, this article serves purpose of those who do not like Pakistan's close coordination with brotherly neighbouring Iran, UAE and Oman before Israel takes a chance ahainst Iran.

It is because of pathetic PTV style all is well people like you that we lost Bangladesh. It is people like you that would not take charge instead brush off hard evidence so that you can blend your mind towards the road that leads to the La La Land.

It is PROVEN fact that Saudi, Iran and now UAE are anti Pakistan and playing double games by supporting all the anti Pakistan outfits like Jihadi organizations.

You sir are an enemy of Pakistan. Change your stance if you want Pakistan to survive and smell the sh*t around you. One cannot look the other way when your house is on fire.

 

[ranaji]

amrici dulla geeri ki wajah say

 

[murfi]

Are we even afraid of these hijra's?

 

[sngilani]

Blochi tribes are scattered over Iran (Irani Blochistan) , Gulf (Muscat and UAE) and Pakistan. Major territory lies with Pakistan full of mineral reserves. If it is explored and tapped properly, Blochistan would be the richest state in the region. But current Pakistani government is not interested in it because of their vested interests. Most Pakistani leaders earn percentages (10-40%) in importing oil products from abroad.

 

[crowbar]

Everybody knows it wel that India is supportive of MQM.They provide them training facilities, they arrange money and weapons for them and they would come to their help as and when they ask for any . The leader of MQM during his visit to INDIA said it loudly that ," the division of the sub-continent was a blunder and i would request to the INDIAN government to let us come back". Very strangely ,non of his "killer squad" boys disappears nor would their families get mutilated bodies somewhere in the bushes and neither would the LEADER be paraded for a trail.
Another Leader would get up and challange the federation with a slogan of "JAG PUNJABI JAG TERI PUG NO LAG GAYEE DHAG".The same leader would sale AIMAL KANSI to americans with out having a treaty to deport own individual to that country. Another leader Mustafa Khar,from the same area would rush to INDIA and request them to attack pakistan but neither them nor their supporters gets disappeared.
On the contrary , few weeks back in Baluchistan , Dr. Baqir shah , a police surgeon and a witness to the bodies of women killed by army ,was shot dead in broad day light. A shut up messege was sent to Media , not a single anchor could even discuss this hineous act of barbarism.
When this kind of discrimination is metted out to people of one athnicity then such kind of songs become popular in the streets.

 

[nauman]

Large number of bloch are uae nationals .they support pakistan

 

[Humi]

Arent most of the arab countries required to required to invest a lot of their money in US by agreements signed during the kissinger period. US wants pakistan broken and these arab leaders will do anything to help US to keep their own money safe.