Well Wishers Of Peace In Karachi

[digitalzygot]

Sad story YAHYA sahib is you will keep on denying and will keep ignoring, this is the saddest part of our society, I don't know what moral and ethical grounds you have to support an organisation who's and was responsible directly for innocent Muslim lives and you come here and bitch about Army. How old are you 12-15 years old???. I have lived there for over 40 years don't TRY and MAKE A PATHETIC ATTEMPT to label me as someone who doesn't live in or isn't a Karachite. Don't fool people and praise MQM. They might have done some developmental work in the past few years but it doesn't give them immunity/hide their horrible past for what they did or are doing now like May 12 and haqiqi/anp/ppp workers target killings in Karachi. Media have got video/audio evidences against MQM it's just matter of time all the goons currently in government will run cowardly like AH overseas. I don't support any ethnic group but it annoys the hell out of me when literate Pakistanis behave like Jahil, here we are going through such a critical time yet guys like you havn't realised to support what's/who's right.

Jamati/Haqiqi GOD you seriously are a teenager....LOL exposing myself by speaking the truth?????? SIGH. You know about one story where in N NB someone lost thier life cuzz of army I know dozen families in my locality that were hardworking factory workers/riksha drivers/police/armed forces that were killed simply cuzz they didn't have TYPICAL URDU SPEAKING ACCENT. My aim isn't to defame any ethnic group but to speak truth and write truth about a terrorist organisation.

 

[YAHYA87]

Sad story YAHYA sahib is you will keep on denying and will keep ignoring, this is the saddest part of our society, I don't know what moral and ethical grounds you have to support an organisation who's and was responsible directly for innocent Muslim lives and you come here and bitch about Army. How old are you 12-15 years old???. I have lived there for over 40 years don't TRY and MAKE A PATHETIC ATTEMPT to label me as someone who doesn't live in or isn't a Karachite. Don't fool people and praise MQM. They might have done some developmental work in the past few years but it doesn't give them immunity/hide their horrible past for what they did or are doing now like May 12 and haqiqi/anp/ppp workers target killings in Karachi. Media have got video/audio evidences against MQM it's just matter of time all the goons currently in government will run cowardly like AH overseas. I don't support any ethnic group but it annoys the hell out of me when literate Pakistanis behave like Jahil, here we are going through such a critical time yet guys like you havn't realised to support what's/who's right.

Jamati/Haqiqi GOD you seriously are a teenager....LOL exposing myself by speaking the truth?????? SIGH. You know about one story where in N NB someone lost thier life cuzz of army I know dozen families in my locality that were hardworking factory workers/riksha drivers/police/armed forces that were killed simply cuzz they didn't have TYPICAL URDU SPEAKING ACCENT. My aim isn't to defame any ethnic group but to speak truth and write truth about a terrorist organisation.

Just tell me what was the moral grounds of our Army and agencies to intervene with Karachi and what was the moral grounds for our military to take action against ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES OF KARACHI and what was the moral grounds they presented JINNAHPUR maps TO EVEN MAKING WHOLE COMMUNITY OF MUHAJIRS TRAITORS(not just MQM)????Do you have any answers for that???Do you even understand what happened to Sindhis and Muhajirs relationship due to this Jinnahpur drama???Many Muhajir who still live in Hyderabad, Sukker and Mirpurkhas been through hell after that and everything was teared an part as it was well known that Altaf Hussain was promoting Sindhi Muhajir Unity by having good relations with JM Syed and also with PPP back in 1988...everything destroyed just because our Army played Divide and rule game with Sindh...their are more then enough reason for them to retaliate as I even heard stories of women got rape in Army operation in Karachi and few of them are even verified stories from place called AlKaram...When these people couldnt find the actual person which they were finding they took their family members and toture them so that he could appear by himself..Same thing happens to Altaf Hussain and same story is of Hyder Abbas Rizvi and Faisal Subzwari's uncle was brutally murdered by Army when he wasnt even young enough to know about why it happened...Ever imagined their pain as what happened to their families and if they ever put weapons in their hands then for what circumstances they put weapons in their hands???Since you discuss non Muhajirs then non Muhajirs were never been through such hell any time in Karachi as MQm always tried to aviod disturbance in their areas and due to that Kati Paharh, Sohrab Goth, Liyari and other areas were peaceful throughout this period but only people who suffered were those who supported(including many Punjabi speaking as Altaf Hussain's song was also written by Punjabi speaking supporter of MQM) them for what???for fake cases and for Jinnahpur now tell me the moral grounds which everything was happened against them???You people dont have any information about things happen in Karachi but you people come here and start arguing with those who are themselves living in this city with all the cautions and precautions they have...On what basis you people try to tell us about MQm??Do we dont know them or you know better then us???If still people support MQM this means that their is something which they like about MQM and also their are some reasons why they dont want to be dictated by someone else...just tell me even a single case associated with MQM where MQM had been proven GUILTY of???Even Major kaleem case MQM got innocent, Hakeem Saeed case MQm got innocent, Jinnahpur case MQM got innocent, One renown Journalist and also famous for critics of MQM murder case his own daughter said in press conference that her husband and his son in law was involve in Killing and also took divorce from him as well...So just tell me what has been proved against them so far if you want to talk in technical grounds avoiding ground realities????Nothing just allegations and nothing else....

Looks like you think that whomever say a word Jamati or Haqiqi is small kid for your info I am living in Karachi since 25+ years(since my birth) and dont you tell me that I dont know anything about those groups that I have mentioned as seen from my own eyes what were they as lived in localities like Malir, Shah Faisal as well so dont tell me that I dont have any knowledge about...So dont tell me that I never seen dead bodies n my lives as If you know about Shah Faisal 2 number you will understand and in Malir Kala board, Khokrapar and few parts of Model calony(especially near Abbasi market) area you will understand the situation what I been through in my own live...Even I attend so many funerals and few were my own family members whom got shot by Rangers alleged for being MQM worker so dont tell me the role of Rangers, Army and Agencies were their and even some members of my family have also done businesses dangerously close to MQM and their strongholds so dont tell me I have not seen anything in my live..

 

[digitalzygot]

Very immature and unfactual post. You just tried to bring every single MQM worker and Muhajirs in one TERRORIST category so you can just prove your point/get sympathies from Urdu speaking readers/extreme frustation. But noone can change the reality and reality is MQM is a TERRORIST organisation and responsible for thousands of deaths over years. Now you mention what morale grounds agencies had when they carried out operation, how dumb a person can be to figure that out, with such horrible law and order situation and absolutely no regard for innocent peoples lives there was no choice but to put an end to lawlessness and MQMs GUNDA GARDE. Our army is hero if they eliminate anti state TTP but villian when they catch or eliminate MQM terrorists BRAVO.

There's VIDEO and audio evidences that Altaf is and was involved with India (RAW) AND MADE ANTI PAKISTAN STATEMENTS BUT YOU ARE BLINDED DUE TO ETHINICITY JUST SHOWS HOW MUCH REGARD AND LOVE YOU SHARE FOR OUR BELOVED NATION.

 

[digitalzygot]

Now I have personally been stopped dozens of times in Korangi and GJ during army operation b/w 8-11pm. I obliged and confirmed ID and respected what they wanted and I didn't had any TERRORIST ACCOMPLICES so I was always allowed to go.. so i don't know why you geting so emotional and defensive about THE TRUTH

 

[YAHYA87]

Very immature and unfactual post. You just tried to bring every single MQM worker and Muhajirs in one TERRORIST category so you can just prove your point/get sympathies from Urdu speaking readers/extreme frustation. But noone can change the reality and reality is MQM is a TERRORIST organisation and responsible for thousands of deaths over years. Now you mention what morale grounds agencies had when they carried out operation, how dumb a person can be to figure that out, with such horrible law and order situation and absolutely no regard for innocent peoples lives there was no choice but to put an end to lawlessness and MQMs GUNDA GARDE. Our army is hero if they eliminate anti state TTP but villian when they catch or eliminate MQM terrorists BRAVO.

There's VIDEO and audio evidences that Altaf is and was involved with India (RAW) AND MADE ANTI PAKISTAN STATEMENTS BUT YOU ARE BLINDED DUE TO ETHINICITY JUST SHOWS HOW MUCH REGARD AND LOVE YOU SHARE FOR OUR BELOVED NATION.

Matter of fact is that MQM was able to got 80% of monopoly of Muhajirs within them due to which they got successful as a nationalist party and the reason to put Muhajir here is because MQM was sole representatives of Muhajirs and people outside Karachi especially Sindhis were very angry when Jinnahpur came out in Public....And the operation was done on Muhajir Quomi Movement not Muthaheda Quomi Movement so thsi is why I have put Muhajirs because MQM was all about Muhajir in 1992 not whole Pakistan so put it that way....I think you are the one who is misunderstanding as this is always a duty of elected representatives in democracy to put an end to those crimes and if Army was so required then what was the reason of making excuse of capturing Dakus in interior Sindh??If they were really want to fix the situation in Karachi then why did they use interior Sindh for this operation before making it Karachi based???Could you explain???It was Army who tried to dictate karachiite what they should do and what they shouldnt and got humiliated to such extent that they had to taste what they spitted on Karachi and MQm...If their was worsening Law and Order conditions in Karachi then this would have been the duty of Sindh Govt. whos cheif minister was "Jam Madad Ali" of PMLN so what was Sindh Govt. doing when their was law and order conditions in Karachi????Their is a system that is made to fix the problems but since people like you have no regards for it so I can expect a childish stuff like that "Send Army to fix problem" and such stuff like that no wonder why democracy has failed because we have people like you who dont care about procedures and processes which takes to solve the problems you people just need to put things up for you but no responsibility of your own...Just say Our Army was great to face of any Karachiite from all parts of Karachi(including Baluch, Pashtuns or Muhajirs) you will get your answer as people in karachi hate army for their roles in Karachi, Baluchistan and also their role in those Taliban fasad back in 1990s....

If their is so much video evidence available THEN TAKE IT TO THE COURT(YOUR OWN AZAD ADLIA) AND PROVE THEM GUILTY INSTEAD OF MESSING AROUND AND COMPLAINS as even I know what those videos actually depicts PROPAGANDA and nothing else...You PTI supporters are just nothing as you people dont even knows the meaning of duties while come here and say this and say that and then go back...The reality is different here PTI is just ONE MAN INTERNET SHOWDOWN and nothing else just imagine every competent person leave PTI soon as he joined for few months like Khurshed Qasuri, Shumaila Rana, a member of Islamabad organizing committee(last year) but you still insist that Imran Khan is great leader and MQM is terrorist party and nothing else this is your fate that you will keep complaining and others who support competent people would move forward and will see develop their areas and also improve their lifestyle so keep living in dreams but we are better of in reality...

 

[YAHYA87]

Now I have personally been stopped dozens of times in Korangi and GJ during army operation b/w 8-11pm. I obliged and confirmed ID and respected what they wanted and I didn't had any TERRORIST ACCOMPLICES so I was always allowed to go.. so i don't know why you geting so emotional and defensive about THE TRUTH

You were personally havent seen what most PEOPLE IN KARACHI HAVE SEEN as Everyone knows most Army's targets were at that time so no need to put yourself right here and tell me that nothing happened because seen everything happening from my own eyes so better dont put things here and AVOID TALKING ABOUT MQM BECAUSE THIS IS THREAD RELATED TO IMRAN KHAN AND ITS CONTENTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH MQM SO IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS MQM THEN OPEN UP ANOTHER THREAD AND DISCUSS IT THEIR BUT THIS IS INAPPROPRIATE AND THIS IS THE LAST TIME I AM SAYING THAT....JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE RAISED ON MY FIRST POST AND IF YOU HAVE NO ANSWER THEN DONT BOTHER POST...If you know that ETHICS THEN YOU WOULD ACCEPT IT BUT IF YOU DONT THEN I CAN EXPECT THAT FROM PTI SUPPORTER...

 

[hamdani]