دوسرا_سوال
Minister (2k+ posts)
Dear brother, can you please tell me which year you think you are living in? I think you're confusing 2015 AD with 1015 AD.
Wearing veil became ineligibility for admission in gcu lahore mehreen shafaq seeks public support
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دوسرا_سوال
Minister (2k+ posts)
Haan, aur Univeral Syllabus aur Run-Off-The-River Dams to bilkul bhi nahi hain.
Aur na hi illegitimate aulad paida kernay ki koi attraction.
Hmmmm.
دوسرا_سوال
Minister (2k+ posts)
O bhai jaan, everyone who doesn't wear full-on burqa as a woman or full-on beard with correct trouser height - is wrong anyway.
So all people except those are wrong.
Then, within the burqa wearing women and bearded-high-trousered men - there are munafiqs, who do mushriqana things like selfies and other islamically banned stuff.
So, if you have a beard (correct length, i.e. two muthis), correct length hair, correct height trousers and you also do everything instructed in islam - then you are good muslims (which I'm sure you must be).
Otherwise you are as wrong as everyone else.
It's very simple man. Just imagine you're living 1000 years behind and follow those rules. You'll automatically not make any mistakes at all.
ammadk
Minister (2k+ posts)
dunya mai har jaga logon ko facilitate krny k liye Nizam mai thori c tabdelian ki jati hai..or is mai Bat k patangr wali koi bat nai agr koi khatun mard ko apna chehra nai dekhana chahte or Intazamian ko itna he khof lahak or TALASHI ka zada he shok hai tou checking k liye sath aik Khatun ko rakha ja sakta hai is mai koi harj nai...Hum ne kahen nai dekha k kahen aik Jew kisi b airport mai apni cap ki talashi day ya Sikh kahen apni pagri utar k dekhae mgar jab musalmano ki bare ate hai tou us ko facilitate krny ki zarurat nai..or us ki waja Ap jesi zehniat hai jo samajhty hai hum jo marzi kren laikin dosra jo kry wo "Bat ka Patangr Banana"hta hai...or aisi he zehniat uper us khatun ne b bean ki hai
Ibrahim92
MPA (400+ posts)
A day of shame for the renowned GC University and Pakistan
Mehreen Shafaq
I need support of my every fellow student.
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Being a Pakistani, many times at different incidents, we are compelled to question our basic rights in our own Islamic Republic of Pakistan.
Especially being a female , we the lesser concerned individuals mostly face hurdles in a male dominant society like ours. But recently I faced the biggest dilemma of our society. A beard Student can attend a college or university but a Veiled girl can not!!
Recently I, Mehreen Shafaq, took the entrance test of a well renowned university of Pakistan, GC University Lahore. I submitted the fee and were allowed to take the examination in my veil. I qualified the test and received an interview call from the university administration for admission for Bsc. Hons. Applied Management.
On 6th of August , I went from Islamabad to Lahore for the interview. I reached the university on 9:40 am and after a quick search, I found the department of management studies. I was handed over a form to fill and all the necessary procedures were carried by the female coordinator present there. After copying my original documents and helping me fill the form she politely said ' Mehreen we have an issue here. You will not be forwarded to the interview panel if you did not take your veil off.'
I was shocked by her words . Take my veil off ? But for what ? I was about to be a student in a coeducational institute in an Islamic state and I qualified the test, I fulfilled the eligibility criteria but what to take my veil off for ? I asked her politely the reason and she said ' It is our policy that we do not take the students that wear veil.'
I requested her to forward me to the interview panel and let me talk to them. My interview was to be conducted earlier but I had to wait two hours for the Director Najaf Yawar to come to the interview panel as according to her , he was the ultimate authority to decide if I can be the part of this university with veil or not.
After a wait of two hours I was sent to the interview room. I gave a normal introduction and the interview panel asked me few normal questions. Then they asked:
'How do we know you are Mehreen Shafaq?'
' You have a female coordinator , ask her to match my face to my picture , I have no objection on that.' I replied.
Suddenly one of the interviewer raised the photocopy of my filled form , turned it towards me and said mockingly ' Here's your picture on it, I can see it , what's the point of wearing veil then?'
I was shocked at his disrespectful attitude towards a female student. The picture was meant for the management of GC and for the respect of the followed procedures and not for general public. I replied ' I may count it as a discrepancy of our system that at times females have to cooperate and compromise with such scenarios and hand over their pictures to institutes for verification and record'. When he noticed I wasn't getting confused neither was I misbehaving to give him a reason to reject me, he directly said ' Mehreen we don't take students that wear veil. We have all male lecturers and we can not take the headache of daily confirmation if it's you in the veil or not.' I said 'Sir how are we supposed to stand against laws of France and other countries against our religion if our own Islamic State will create hurdles in our path?' All of a sudden Mr. Najaf Yawar , the so called Director, started shouting at me ' Are you here to preach us ? We all have our own versions of religion and you are, in no way, a better Muslim than me . ' Then to utter disrespect in an insulting manner , the director of GC Mr. Najaf Yawar said ,' Ap Jesi larkion k lye girls colleges and women universities hain. Ap ja kar kisi aesi university me apply Karen . ( There are girls colleges and women universities for girls like you , you should apply in any of those.)
For girls like you ! This sentence still echoes in my brain raising many questions. Just because I wore a veil, he judged my character as one of those girls who did not deserve to be in co-education. A veil is supposed to be wore in a co-educational institute and not in a women university but because I am a female I cannot raise a voice in this male dominant society to ask him why a beard man can attend the university but a veiled woman can't ! Why the whole male lecturers are privileged in a way that all females shall be with no veil at all? Why the interview panel treated me just as a female veiled student and not like a normal Student . In this Islamic Republic of Pakistan , this debate can be raised in the name of the basic religion of this country as it is our very right to follow every Islamic rule in our country but here we should also consider the basic , ethical and moral rights of every male and female student of this country.
One of the interviewer said ' You are a good candidate but we can't let you study here in veil'. Today the merit list was published and despite the fact I qualified the test, gave the interview satisfactory in affluent English ( that was one of their requirements) , was called a 'good candidate' by the interviewer , I could not find my name in the merit list anywhere because I am a female that wears Veil in our Islamic Republic Of Pakistan.
A day of shame for the renowned GC university and Pakistan. A day of injustice and usurpation of basic rights of a Pakistani once again. I wish to raise a voice against this injustice and all I need, is Support !
Read , Share and Spread
So every person can know on what basis these so called pioneers of success and excellence select their candidates. I can not find any shelter from this injustice done to me but I can raise a voice by your help , file a suit and let them know that a female veiled student has as many rights and privileges as any other normal student!
Thank You.
SOURCE : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...525.1073741838.100005823161609&type=1&fref=nf
Mehreen Shafaq
I need support of my every fellow student.
Read, Share and Spread ....
Being a Pakistani, many times at different incidents, we are compelled to question our basic rights in our own Islamic Republic of Pakistan.
Especially being a female , we the lesser concerned individuals mostly face hurdles in a male dominant society like ours. But recently I faced the biggest dilemma of our society. A beard Student can attend a college or university but a Veiled girl can not!!
Recently I, Mehreen Shafaq, took the entrance test of a well renowned university of Pakistan, GC University Lahore. I submitted the fee and were allowed to take the examination in my veil. I qualified the test and received an interview call from the university administration for admission for Bsc. Hons. Applied Management.
On 6th of August , I went from Islamabad to Lahore for the interview. I reached the university on 9:40 am and after a quick search, I found the department of management studies. I was handed over a form to fill and all the necessary procedures were carried by the female coordinator present there. After copying my original documents and helping me fill the form she politely said ' Mehreen we have an issue here. You will not be forwarded to the interview panel if you did not take your veil off.'
I was shocked by her words . Take my veil off ? But for what ? I was about to be a student in a coeducational institute in an Islamic state and I qualified the test, I fulfilled the eligibility criteria but what to take my veil off for ? I asked her politely the reason and she said ' It is our policy that we do not take the students that wear veil.'
I requested her to forward me to the interview panel and let me talk to them. My interview was to be conducted earlier but I had to wait two hours for the Director Najaf Yawar to come to the interview panel as according to her , he was the ultimate authority to decide if I can be the part of this university with veil or not.
After a wait of two hours I was sent to the interview room. I gave a normal introduction and the interview panel asked me few normal questions. Then they asked:
'How do we know you are Mehreen Shafaq?'
' You have a female coordinator , ask her to match my face to my picture , I have no objection on that.' I replied.
Suddenly one of the interviewer raised the photocopy of my filled form , turned it towards me and said mockingly ' Here's your picture on it, I can see it , what's the point of wearing veil then?'
I was shocked at his disrespectful attitude towards a female student. The picture was meant for the management of GC and for the respect of the followed procedures and not for general public. I replied ' I may count it as a discrepancy of our system that at times females have to cooperate and compromise with such scenarios and hand over their pictures to institutes for verification and record'. When he noticed I wasn't getting confused neither was I misbehaving to give him a reason to reject me, he directly said ' Mehreen we don't take students that wear veil. We have all male lecturers and we can not take the headache of daily confirmation if it's you in the veil or not.' I said 'Sir how are we supposed to stand against laws of France and other countries against our religion if our own Islamic State will create hurdles in our path?' All of a sudden Mr. Najaf Yawar , the so called Director, started shouting at me ' Are you here to preach us ? We all have our own versions of religion and you are, in no way, a better Muslim than me . ' Then to utter disrespect in an insulting manner , the director of GC Mr. Najaf Yawar said ,' Ap Jesi larkion k lye girls colleges and women universities hain. Ap ja kar kisi aesi university me apply Karen . ( There are girls colleges and women universities for girls like you , you should apply in any of those.)
For girls like you ! This sentence still echoes in my brain raising many questions. Just because I wore a veil, he judged my character as one of those girls who did not deserve to be in co-education. A veil is supposed to be wore in a co-educational institute and not in a women university but because I am a female I cannot raise a voice in this male dominant society to ask him why a beard man can attend the university but a veiled woman can't ! Why the whole male lecturers are privileged in a way that all females shall be with no veil at all? Why the interview panel treated me just as a female veiled student and not like a normal Student . In this Islamic Republic of Pakistan , this debate can be raised in the name of the basic religion of this country as it is our very right to follow every Islamic rule in our country but here we should also consider the basic , ethical and moral rights of every male and female student of this country.
One of the interviewer said ' You are a good candidate but we can't let you study here in veil'. Today the merit list was published and despite the fact I qualified the test, gave the interview satisfactory in affluent English ( that was one of their requirements) , was called a 'good candidate' by the interviewer , I could not find my name in the merit list anywhere because I am a female that wears Veil in our Islamic Republic Of Pakistan.
A day of shame for the renowned GC university and Pakistan. A day of injustice and usurpation of basic rights of a Pakistani once again. I wish to raise a voice against this injustice and all I need, is Support !
Read , Share and Spread
So every person can know on what basis these so called pioneers of success and excellence select their candidates. I can not find any shelter from this injustice done to me but I can raise a voice by your help , file a suit and let them know that a female veiled student has as many rights and privileges as any other normal student!
Thank You.
SOURCE : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...525.1073741838.100005823161609&type=1&fref=nf
Kashif Rafiq
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
GC University : Naqaab Admission Main Rakawat Ban Gia
https://www.facebook.com/mehr.shafaq/videos/vb.100005823161609/432983403572428/?type=2&theater
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hafiz kashif amin
New Member
Assalam o Alaikum...
Mein ne ye sari story or comments parhey ,, Mera khayal hey mohtarma ko wqti nazakat k paish e nazar naqab utar daina chahye tha ,, admission honey k baad koi masla nahi tha , no one could have dismissed her for wearing veil...
Dusri baat ye hey k agar mohtarma nihayat taqwa pasand hein aik lamha ko bhi naqab hatana manzur nahi to unhein kisi women institution mein admission le lena chahye kiun k taqwa career se to ba hr surat brh kr hey...
Mein ye soch k preshan hun k agar in ka admission ho jata to wahan teachers ki bohat bri tadaad to mrd hey, phir ye doran e tdrees unki taraf kese daikhti Q k jb ye apna chehra kisi na mehram ko nahi dikha sakti to zahir hey kisi na mehram ka chehra bhi nahi daikhna chahein gi..
kuch hazraat frma rahey they k naqab poshon ki shanakht k lye kuch khwateen rakh li jaein, to hazrat un khwateen ki shnakht kon karey ga???agar ap kehtey hein wo parda na karein phir to jhagra hi khtm ,agar kisi na kisi ko parda chorna hey to ye mohtarma hi chor dain ta k baat khtm ho..
Is masley ka absolute solution koi nahi , q k msla staff wgera ka nahi hey balkey mkhloot nizaam e taleem is dor k andr apni zaat mein bohat bra masla hy..
In short ye k aik mattaqi khatun ka co education mein janey ka atal faisla nihayat mshkuk malum hota hey, or uska apne Taqwey k sath wahan survive karna nihayat
kathin...
jazakumullah
Mein ne ye sari story or comments parhey ,, Mera khayal hey mohtarma ko wqti nazakat k paish e nazar naqab utar daina chahye tha ,, admission honey k baad koi masla nahi tha , no one could have dismissed her for wearing veil...
Dusri baat ye hey k agar mohtarma nihayat taqwa pasand hein aik lamha ko bhi naqab hatana manzur nahi to unhein kisi women institution mein admission le lena chahye kiun k taqwa career se to ba hr surat brh kr hey...
Mein ye soch k preshan hun k agar in ka admission ho jata to wahan teachers ki bohat bri tadaad to mrd hey, phir ye doran e tdrees unki taraf kese daikhti Q k jb ye apna chehra kisi na mehram ko nahi dikha sakti to zahir hey kisi na mehram ka chehra bhi nahi daikhna chahein gi..
kuch hazraat frma rahey they k naqab poshon ki shanakht k lye kuch khwateen rakh li jaein, to hazrat un khwateen ki shnakht kon karey ga???agar ap kehtey hein wo parda na karein phir to jhagra hi khtm ,agar kisi na kisi ko parda chorna hey to ye mohtarma hi chor dain ta k baat khtm ho..
Is masley ka absolute solution koi nahi , q k msla staff wgera ka nahi hey balkey mkhloot nizaam e taleem is dor k andr apni zaat mein bohat bra masla hy..
In short ye k aik mattaqi khatun ka co education mein janey ka atal faisla nihayat mshkuk malum hota hey, or uska apne Taqwey k sath wahan survive karna nihayat
kathin...
jazakumullah
@mehreen Shafaq I agree, we need to have a policy in public for such rules. I know you are a common women not an Aalima or scholar, and I dont know why we want others to be a perfect Muslim before listening to their point of view. You are very well covered sister and we are so proud of you. Share this on social media, try to reach out to a channel, write an article to uncover these monsters (@najaf yawar) in our society. I wonder where these NGO's are now who are there to teach a girl how to stand against their religion and family but ignore real cultural issues like this faced by women in our society. Stay stong sis
uturninqlab
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
آپ اس ضدی شخص کی غلط توصیف کر رہے ہیں ۔ ۔۔۔۔کو ئی خاتون جتنی بھی باپردہ ہو جب نادرا آفس پکچر بنوائے گی ، ائیرپورٹ جائے گی تو اس کو ہر صورت نقاب اتارنا ہو گا ، نواز مخالفت میں لوجک کو ایک طرف نہ رکھ دو بھائی صاحب
uturninqlab
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: GC University : Naqaab Admission Main Rakawat Ban Gia
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اس ملا ذہنیت نے برٹش راج کے دوران انگریزی تعلیم کو خلاف شریعیت قرارد ے دیا تھا ، بعد میں انہی ملاوں نے ٹی وی کو حرام قرار دیا ، ۔۔اس کے بعد کتنا عرصہ تصویر کو حرام قرار دے کر شناختی کارڈ بغیر تصویر کے بنواتے رہے ۔ذرا سوچیں ان ملاوں نے ہمیں جاہل ،پس ماندہ اور غریب رکھنے میں کتنا اہم کردار ادا کیا ۔
uturninqlab
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: GC University : Naqaab Admission Main Rakawat Ban Gia
گورا کلچر میں عورت آزاد مگر زیادہ محفوظ ہے ، منافقانہ رویئے ہمارے سب سے بڑے دشمن ہیں ۔
گورا کلچر میں عورت آزاد مگر زیادہ محفوظ ہے ، منافقانہ رویئے ہمارے سب سے بڑے دشمن ہیں ۔
uturninqlab
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
جس کالج میں مخلوط تعلیمی نظام ہے وہاں پہ صرف خواتین کو رکھ لیں ؟
olympian
Councller (250+ posts)
Re: GC University : Naqaab Admission Main Rakawat Ban Gia
:) .سر سو آنے کی بات کہی ہے آپ نے
:) .سر سو آنے کی بات کہی ہے آپ نے
Gcu did a right thing.
they should strictly set the dress code fro females and that should be skirt with t.shirt.
bikini will be fine. Sex education should be taught in school. Practical examination should be conduct for sex eeucation.
gcu should allow to teach gay and lesbians education.
they should strictly set the dress code fro females and that should be skirt with t.shirt.
bikini will be fine. Sex education should be taught in school. Practical examination should be conduct for sex eeucation.
gcu should allow to teach gay and lesbians education.
Pak1stani
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
I have a few problems with this, first of all niqab is not a requirement in our deen, second of all with the terrible security situation in Pakistan this makes sense and thirdly, Hijab for women is covering of the head and hair, the arms till the wrist and legs till the ankles, any one else notice that the dress she is wearing is up to ther elbows !? Making so much noise about the optional and yet ignoring the rule is at the very least hypocritical.
Personally I couldn't careless about the lenght of her selves but since she herself wants to start a sh!tstorm about her niqaab, makes a video posts its on social media for millions to view one would assume she is a very strict follower of the hijab but doesn't seems like.
And WTF is up with those burka selfies ????
Personally I couldn't careless about the lenght of her selves but since she herself wants to start a sh!tstorm about her niqaab, makes a video posts its on social media for millions to view one would assume she is a very strict follower of the hijab but doesn't seems like.
And WTF is up with those burka selfies ????
Citizen X
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Just a little correction, Taking pictures is NOT haram , just like having your video taken or seeing TV ( as long as the contents are halal ) What you are talking about is that making paintings and statues of living objects ( usually by hand ) is forbidden, since they were in the time of jahilia ( and still are in many cases ) used to make false gods and worship them.
