"Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you." (Q

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Islam came and destroyed the concept of hereditary ([FONT=&quot]موروثی[/FONT]) rank. The Quran declares that people are created inherently equal and differ only based on their Taqwa (piety):


[FONT=&quot]يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ إِنَّا خَلَقْنَاكُم مِّن ذَكَرٍ وَأُنثَىٰ وَجَعَلْنَاكُمْ شُعُوبًا وَقَبَائِلَ لِتَعَارَفُوا ۚ إِنَّ أَكْرَمَكُمْ عِندَ اللَّهِ أَتْقَاكُمْ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ خَبِيرٌ [/FONT](Quran, 49:13)​
[FONT=&quot]Yusuf Ali 13: [/FONT]
O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).
[FONT=&quot]ا ے لوگو ہم نے تمہیں ایک ہی مرد اور عورت سے پیدا کیا ہے اور تمہارے خاندان اور قومیں جو بنائی ہیں تاکہ تمہیں آپس میں پہچان ہو بے شک زیادہ عزت والا تم میں سے الله کے نزدیک وہ ہے جو تم میں سے زیادہ پرہیزگار ہے بے شک الله سب کچھ جاننے والا خبردار ہے[/FONT]​

The Quran repeatedly holds each individual responsible for his or her own conduct. The actions of one soul cannot affect another, neither positively nor negatively. Is their anyone wish to go against the egalitarian (سب انسان برابر ہیں) spirit of Islam, and would instead be a reflection of Jahiliyyah custom in which people thought they would be saved based on their familial connections as opposed to their Taqwa. The Quran categorically declares that on the Day of Judgement a person’s familial connections will be cut off:

[FONT=&quot]وَلَقَدْ جِئْتُمُونَا فُرَادَىٰ كَمَا خَلَقْنَاكُمْ أَوَّلَ مَرَّةٍ وَتَرَكْتُم مَّا خَوَّلْنَاكُمْ وَرَاءَ ظُهُورِكُمْ ۖ وَمَا نَرَىٰ مَعَكُمْ شُفَعَاءَكُمُ الَّذِينَ زَعَمْتُمْ أَنَّهُمْ فِيكُمْ شُرَكَاءُ ۚ لَقَد تَّقَطَّعَ بَيْنَكُمْ وَضَلَّ عَنكُم مَّا كُنتُمْ تَزْعُمُونَ [/FONT](Quran, 6:94)​
[FONT=&quot]Yusuf Ali 94: [/FONT]"And behold! ye come to us bare and alone as We created you for the first time: ye have left behind you all (the favours) which We bestowed on you: We see not with you your intercessors whom ye thought to be partners in your affairs: so now all relations between you have been cut off, and your (pet) fancies have left you in the lurch!"
[FONT=&quot]اور البتہ تم ہمارے پاس ایک ایک ہو کر آ گئے ہو جس طرح ہم نے تمہیں پہلی دفعہ پیدا کیا تھا اور جو کچھ ہم نے تمہیں دیا تھا وہ اپنے پیچھے ہی چھوڑ آئے ہو اور تمہارے ساتھ ان کی سفارش کرنے والوں کو نہیں دیکھتے جنہیں تم خیال کرتے تھے کہ وہ تمہارے معاملےمیں شریک ہیں تمہارا آپس میں قطع تعلق ہو گیا ہے اور جو تم خیال کرتے تھے وہ سب جاتا رہا[/FONT]​

And then Allah says:

[FONT=&quot]وَاتَّقُوا يَوْمًا لَّا تَجْزِي نَفْسٌ عَن نَّفْسٍ شَيْئًا وَلَا يُقْبَلُ مِنْهَا شَفَاعَةٌ وَلَا يُؤْخَذُ مِنْهَا عَدْلٌ وَلَا هُمْ يُنصَرُونَ [/FONT](Quran, 2:48)​
[FONT=&quot]Yusuf Ali 48: [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Then guard yourselves against a day when one soul shall not avail another nor shall intercession be accepted for her, nor shall compensation be taken from her, nor shall anyone be helped (from outside). [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]اوراس دن سے ڈرو جس دن کوئی شخص کسی کے کچھ بھی کام نہ آئے گا اور نہ ان کے لیے کوئی سفارش قبول ہو گی اورنہ اس کی طرف سے بدلہ لیا جائے گا اور نہ ان کی مدد کی جائے گی[/FONT]

And again:

[FONT=&quot]وَاتَّقُوا يَوْمًا لَّا تَجْزِي نَفْسٌ عَن نَّفْسٍ شَيْئًا وَلَا يُقْبَلُ مِنْهَا عَدْلٌ وَلَا تَنفَعُهَا شَفَاعَةٌ وَلَا هُمْ يُنصَرُونَ [/FONT](Quran, 2:123)​
[FONT=&quot]Yusuf Ali 123: [/FONT]Then guard yourselves against a-Day when one soul shall not avail another, nor shall compensation be accepted from her nor shall intercession profit her nor shall anyone be helped (from outside).
[FONT=&quot]اوراس دن سے ڈرو جس دن کوئی بھی کسی کے کام نہ آئے گا اور نہ اس سے بدلہ قبول کیا جائے گا اور نہ اسے کوئی سفارش نفع دے گی اور نہ وہ مدد دیے جائیں گے[/FONT]

The Quran categorically states that no soul shall have an effect on another:

[FONT=&quot]قُلْ أَغَيْرَ اللَّهِ أَبْغِي رَبًّا وَهُوَ رَبُّ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ ۚ وَلَا تَكْسِبُ كُلُّ نَفْسٍ إِلَّا عَلَيْهَا ۚ وَلَا تَزِرُ وَازِرَةٌ وِزْرَ أُخْرَىٰ ۚ ثُمَّ إِلَىٰ رَبِّكُم مَّرْجِعُكُمْ فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمْ فِيهِ تَخْتَلِفُونَ [/FONT](Quran, 6:164)​
[FONT=&quot]Yusuf Ali 164: [/FONT]Say: "Shall I seek for (my) Cherisher other than Allah, when He is the Cherisher of all things (that exist)? Every soul draws the meed of its acts on none but itself: no bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another. Your goal in the end is towards Allah. He will tell you the truth of the things wherein ye disputed."

[FONT=&quot]کہہ دو کیا اب میں الله کے سوا اور کوئی رب تلاش کروں حالانکہ وہی ہر چیز کا رب ہے اور جو شخص کوئی گناہ کرے گاتو وہ اسی کے ذمہ ہے اور ایک شخص دوسرے کا بوجھ نہیں اٹھائے گا پھر تمہارے رب کے ہاں ہی سب کو لوٹ کر جانا ہے سو جن باتو ں میں تم جھگڑتے تھے وہ تمہیں بتلاد ے گا[/FONT]​

And again, Allah repeats it: (Quran, 53:38-39)
[FONT=&quot]أَلَّا تَزِرُ وَازِرَةٌ وِزْرَ أُخْرَىٰ [/FONT](Quran, 53:38)​
[FONT=&quot]Yusuf Ali 38: [/FONT]Namely, that no bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another;
[FONT=&quot]وہ یہ کہ کوئی کسی کا بوجھ نہیں اٹھائے گا

[/FONT]​
[FONT=&quot]وَأَن لَّيْسَ لِلْإِنسَانِ إِلَّا مَا سَعَىٰ [/FONT](Quran, 53:39)​
[FONT=&quot]Yusuf Ali 39: [/FONT]That man can have nothing but what he strives for;
[FONT=&quot]اور یہ کہ انسان کو وہی ملتا ہے جو کرتا ہے[/FONT]​

As well as: (Quran, 6:70)
[FONT=&quot]وَذَرِ الَّذِينَ اتَّخَذُوا دِينَهُمْ لَعِبًا وَلَهْوًا وَغَرَّتْهُمُ الْحَيَاةُ الدُّنْيَا ۚ وَذَكِّرْ بِهِ أَن تُبْسَلَ نَفْسٌ بِمَا كَسَبَتْ لَيْسَ لَهَا مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ وَلِيٌّ وَلَا شَفِيعٌ وَإِن تَعْدِلْ كُلَّ عَدْلٍ لَّا يُؤْخَذْ مِنْهَا ۗ أُولَـٰئِكَ الَّذِينَ أُبْسِلُوا بِمَا كَسَبُوا ۖ لَهُمْ شَرَابٌ مِّنْ حَمِيمٍ وَعَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ بِمَا كَانُوا يَكْفُرُونَ [/FONT](Quran, 6:70)​
[FONT=&quot]Yusuf Ali 70:[/FONT]Leave alone those who take their religion to be mere play and amusement, and are deceived by the life of this world. But proclaim (to them) this (truth): that every soul delivers itself to ruin by its own acts: it will find for itself no protector or intercessor except Allah. if it offered every ransom, (or reparation), none will be accepted: such is (the end of) those who deliver themselves to ruin by their own acts: they will have for drink (only) boiling water, and for punishment, one most grievous: for they persisted in rejecting Allah.
[FONT=&quot]اور انہیں چھوڑ دو جنہوں نے اپنے دین کو کھیل اور تماشا بنا رکھا ہے اور دنیاکی زندگی نے انہیں دھوکہ دیا ہے اور انہیں قرآن سے نصیحت کرتا تاکہ کوئی اپنے کیے میں گرفتار نہ ہو جائے کہ اس کے لیے الله کے سوا کوئی دوست اور سفارش کرنے والا نہ ہوگا اور اگر دنیا بھر کا معاوضہ بھی دے گا تب بھی اس سے نہ لیا جائے گا یہی وہ لوگ ہیں جو اپنے کیے میں گرفتار ہوئے ان کے پینے کے لیے گرم پانی ہوگا اور ان کے کفر کے بدلہ میں دردناک عذاب ہو گا[/FONT]​
• The Hadiths
The Prophet ([FONT=&quot]صلّى[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]الله[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]عليه[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]وآله[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]وسلّم[/FONT]) declared that people were born inherently equal “except by piety and good action (Taqwa). Indeed the best among you is the one with the best character (Taqwa). Listen to me. Did I convey this to you properly?…Each one of you who is here must convey this to everyone not present.” (Excerpt from the Prophet’s Last Sermon as in Baihiqi)

The Prophet ([FONT=&quot]صلّى[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]الله[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]عليه[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]وآله[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]وسلّم[/FONT]) said:“There are indeed people who boast of their dead ancestors; but in the sight of Allah they are more contemptible than the black beetle that rolls a piece of dung with its nose. Behold, Allah has removed from you the arrogance of the Time of Jahiliyyah (Ignorance) with its boast of ancestral glories. Man is but an Allah-fearing believer or an unfortunate sinner. All people are the children of Adam, and Adam was created out of dust.” [At-Tirmidhi and Abu Dawud]

The Prophet ([FONT=&quot]صلّى[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]الله[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]عليه[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]وآله[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]وسلّم[/FONT]) said further: “Undoubtedly Allah has removed from you the pride of arrogance of the age of Jahiliyah (ignorance) and the glorification of ancestors. Now people are of two kinds. Either believers who are aware or transgressors who do wrong. You are all the children of Adam and Adam was made of clay… If they do not give this up (i.e. pride in ancestors) Allah will consider them lower than the lowly worm which pushes itself through Khara (dung).” [Abu Dawud and Tirmidhi]

'A'isha, the wife of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him), reported that the Quraish were concerned about the woman who had committed theft during the lifetime of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him), in the expedition of Victory (of Mecca). They said: Who would speak to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) about her? They (again) said: Who can dare do this but Usama b Zaid, the loved one of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him)? She was brought to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and Usama b. Zaid spoke about her to him (interceded on her behalf). The colour of the face of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) changed, and he said: Do you intercede in one of the prescribed punishments of Allah? He (Usama) said: 'Messenger of Allah, seek forgiveness for me. When it was dusk. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) stood up and gave an address. He (first) glorified Allah as He deserves, and then said: Now to our topic. This (injustice) destroyed those before you that when any one of (high) rank committed theft among them, they spared him, and when any weak one among them committed theft, they inflicted the prescribed punishment upon him. By Him in Whose Hand is my life, even if Fatima daughter of Muhammad were to commit theft, I would have cut off her hand. He (the Holy Prophet) then commanded about that woman who had committed theft, and her hand was cut off. 'A'isha (further) said: Hers was a good respentance, and she later on married and used to come to me after that, and I conveyed her needs (and problems) to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). [Sahih Muslim, Book# 017, Hadeeth# 4188]

After reading above verses of Quraan and hadith it would be accusation on Prophet Muhammad
(صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) if some insists that Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) praised and exalted his progeny (آل اولاد) and lineage (حسب نسب). After all, how could the Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) praise and exalt ([FONT=&quot]مرتبہ[/FONT]) his progeny (آل اولاد) and lineage (حسب نسب) whilst forbidding anyone else from glorifying their lineage?
 
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hans

Banned
Well ... if your post headline is what you want to bet on.. then may I ask why was this critria not adopted in selection of khalifah ar rasyidin?

May
Allah Subhana wa talla protect me for my simple thoughts.
 

Veila Mast

Senator (1k+ posts)
Mr Pakistan1947: Just a brief question

MORAL LESSON that you extracted from those Ayats of Quran is your own thought or it has already been extracted by some scholar!

If you know those scholars then please let me know their names as well!

If that is your IMAGINATION then you can keep your IMAGINATIONS with yourself as we don't need a NEW THOUGHT in Islam!
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Mr Pakistan1947: Just a brief question

MORAL LESSON that you extracted from those Ayats of Quran is your own thought or it has already been extracted by some scholar!

If you know those scholars then please let me know their names as well!

If that is your IMAGINATION then you can keep your IMAGINATIONS with yourself as we don't need a NEW THOUGHT in Islam!

I do not follow blindly any Peer when the Quraan and authentic Hadeeths are available. Please let me know if there is any Quraanic verse or hadeeth is mis-quoted.
 

Veila Mast

Senator (1k+ posts)
I do not follow blindly any Peer when the Quraan and authentic Hadeeths are available. Please let me know if there is any Quraanic verse or hadeeth is mis-quoted.

//Islam came and destroyed concept of hereditary rank//

That is your opening line but you misunderstood it.

If I believe you then I must ask you:

Why Rasool Allah pbuh belonged to most respectable family of Arab?

Why Hazrat Abu Bakr Sadeeq Razi Allah Tala Anho insisted KHILEEFAH to be from Quraish Tribe!

You answer two question first then I shall take next part of your great opening statement!
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Well ... if your post headline is what you want to bet on.. then may I ask why was this critria not adopted in selection of khalifah ar rasyidin?

May
Allah Subhana wa talla protect me for my simple thoughts.

The method by which Abu Bakr
(رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ) became Khalifa was by selection (ikhtiar) though there is a difference of opinion on whether the selection was carried out by a Majlis-Ash-Shura or the general populace (عوام الناس). There are certain actions of the Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) which implied that he wanted Abu Bakr (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ).

Narrated 'Aisha: When Allah's Apostle became seriously ill, Bilal came to him for the prayer. He said, "Tell Abu Bakr to lead the people in the prayer." I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Abu Bakr is a soft-hearted man and if he stands in your place, he would not be able to make the people hear him. Will you order 'Umar (to lead the prayer)?" The Prophet said, "Tell Abu Bakr to lead the people in the prayer." Then I said to Hafsa, "Tell him, Abu i Bakr is a soft-hearted man and if he stands in his place, he would not be able to make the people hear him. Would you order 'Umar to lead the prayer?' " Hafsa did so. The Prophet said, "Verily you are the companions of Joseph. Tell Abu Bakr to lead the people in the prayer." So Abu- Bakr stood for the prayer. In the meantime Allah's Apostle felt better and came out with the help of two persons and both of his legs were dragging on the ground till he entered the mosque. When Abu Bakr heard him coming, he tried to retreat but Allah's Apostle beckoned him to carry on. The Prophet sat on his left side. Abu Bakr was praying while standing and Allah's Apostle was leading the prayer while sitting. Abu Bakr was following the Prophet and the people were following Abu Bakr (in the prayer). (Sahih Bukhari; Book #11, Hadith #681)

Narrated Hamza bin 'Abdullah: My father said, "When Allah's Apostle became seriously ill, he was told about the prayer. He said, 'Tell Abu Bakr to lead the people in the prayer.' 'Aisha said, 'Abu Bakr is a soft-hearted man and he would be over-powered by his weeping if he recited the Qur'an.' He said to them, 'Tell him (Abu Bakr) to lead the prayer. The same reply was given to him. He said again, 'Tell him to lead the prayer. You (women) are the companions of Joseph."
(Sahih Bukhari; Book #11, Hadith #650)

Narrated Sahl bin Sa'd As-Sa'idi: Allah's Apostle went to establish peace among Bani 'Amr bin 'Auf. In the meantime the time of prayer was due and the Mu'adh-dhin went to Abu Bakr and said, "Will you lead the prayer, so that I may pronounce the Iqama?" Abu Bakr replied in the affirmative and led the prayer. Allah's Apostle came while the people were still praying and he entered the rows of the praying people till he stood in the (first row). The people clapped their hands. Abu Bakr never glanced sideways in his prayer but when the people continued clapping, Abu Bakr looked and saw Allah's Apostle. Allah's Apostle beckoned him to stay at his place. Abu Bakr raised his hands and thanked Allah for that order of Allah's Apostle and then he retreated till he reached the first row. Allah's Apostle went forward and led the prayer. When Allah's Apostle finished the prayer, he said, "O Abu Bakr! What prevented you from staying when I ordered you to do so?" Abu Bakr replied, "How can Ibn Abi Quhafa (Abu Bakr) dare to lead the prayer in the presence of Allah's Apostle?" Then Allah's Apostle said, "Why did you clap so much? If something happens to anyone during his prayer he should say Subhan Allah. If he says so he will be attended to, for clapping is for women."
(Sahih Bukhari; Book #11, Hadith #652)

Narrated Al-Qasim bin Muhammad: 'Aisha said, "O my head!" Allah's Apostle said, "If that (i.e., your death) should happen while I am still alive, I would ask Allah to forgive you and would invoke Allah for you." 'Aisha said, "O my life which is going to be lost! By Allah, I think that you wish for my death, and if that should happen then you would be busy enjoying the company of one of your wives in the last part of that day." The Prophet said, "But I should say, 'O my head!' I feel like calling Abu Bakr and his son and appoint (the former as my successors lest people should say something or wish for something. Allah will insist (on Abu Bakr becoming a Caliph) and the believers will prevent (anyone else from claiming the Caliphate)," or "..Allah will prevent (anyone else from claiming the Caliphate) and the believers will insist (on Abu Bakr becoming the Caliph)."
(Sahih Bukhari; Book #89, Hadith #324)

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: Allah's Apostle addressed the people saying, "Allah has given option to a slave to choose this world or what is with Him. The slave has chosen what is with Allah." Abu Bakr wept, and we were astonished at his weeping caused by what the Prophet mentioned as to a Slave ( of Allah) who had been offered a choice, (we learned later on) that Allah's Apostle himself was the person who was given the choice, and that Abu Bakr knew best of all of us. Allah's Apostle added, "The person who has favored me most of all both with his company and wealth, is Abu Bakr. If I were to take a Khalil other than my Lord, I would have taken Abu Bakr as such, but (what relates us) is the Islamic brotherhood and friendliness. All the gates of the Mosque should be closed except the gate of Abu Bakr."
(Sahih Bukhari; Book #57, Hadith #6)

Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) asked Abu Bakr (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ) to lead the payers proves that he
(صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) wanted him to be his (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم)successors. If someone tries to find a different meaning then we can only pray for that person.
 
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Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
//Islam came and destroyed concept of hereditary rank//
That is your opening line but you misunderstood it.
If I believe you then I must ask you:
Why Rasool Allah pbuh belonged to most respectable family of Arab?

Veila Mast, I am very disappointed with you. I am quoting Quraan and Authentic Hadeeths and you are asking an immature question. What is the purpose of asking this question.

Bilawal Bhuto Zardari belong to very respected family of Sind!!!!

Hazrat Bilal (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ) were slave before accepting Islam. Look what respect our beloved prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) offered him (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ).

Narrated Abu Huraira: At the time of the Fajr prayer the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) asked Bilal (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ), "Tell me of the best deed you did after embracing Islam, for I heard your footsteps in front of me in Paradise." Bilal (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ) replied, "I did not do anything worth mentioning except that whenever I performed ablution during the day or night, I prayed after that ablution as much as was written for me." (Sahih Bukhari; Book #21, Hadith #250)


Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet went out and offered a two Rakat prayer on the Day of 'Id ul Fitr and did not offer any other prayer before or after it and at that time Bilal (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ) was accompanying him. (Sahi Bukhari; Book #15, Hadith #104)


Is there any King on this planet earth who can claimed to be more respectful than Hazrat Bilal (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ).
 

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
After reading above verses of Quraan and hadith it would be accusation on Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) if some insists that Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) praised and exalted his progeny (آل اولاد) and lineage (حسب نسب). After all, how could the Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) praise and exalt ([FONT="]مرتبہ[/FONT]) his progeny (آل اولاد) and lineage (حسب نسب) whilst forbidding anyone else from glorifying their lineage?

Who is/are the progeny of our Prophet(PBUH); are you, brother not aware about Quranic verse that says that "Muhammad(PBUH) is not
the father of any male......". First define the progeny of our Prophet(PBUH). Now you also are taking "Auladay Abu Talib" as "Auladay Prophet",
second thing in Quran frequently the word "Aal" has been used, did you check that if anywhere it is written as "Aalay Muhammad".?
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
//Islam came and destroyed concept of hereditary rank//

Why Hazrat Abu Bakr Sadeeq Razi Allah Tala Anho insisted KHILEEFAH to be from Quraish Tribe!

Dear Velia Mast, I have already answered this question above in my post no. 6.
 
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Veila Mast

Senator (1k+ posts)
Veila Mast, I am very disappointed with you. I am quoting Quraan and Authentic Hadeeths and you are asking an immature question. What is the purpose of asking this question.

Bilawal Bhuto Zardari belong to very respected family of Sind!!!!

Hazrat Bilal (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ) were slave before accepting Islam. Look what respect our beloved prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) offered him (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ).

Narrated Abu Huraira: At the time of the Fajr prayer the Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) asked Bilal (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ), "Tell me of the best deed you did after embracing Islam, for I heard your footsteps in front of me in Paradise." Bilal (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ) replied, "I did not do anything worth mentioning except that whenever I performed ablution during the day or night, I prayed after that ablution as much as was written for me." (Sahih Bukhari; Book #21, Hadith #250)


Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet went out and offered a two Rakat prayer on the Day of 'Id ul Fitr and did not offer any other prayer before or after it and at that time Bilal (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ) was accompanying him. (Sahi Bukhari; Book #15, Hadith #104)


Is there any King on this planet earth who can claimed to be more respectful than Hazrat Bilal (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ).

Disappointment is mine indeed!

You don't know even basics of comparisons!

Compare apple with apples not with bananas!

You are comparing Bilawal to family of Rasool Allah pbuh!!!!!

Lol!!!!!
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Compare apple with apples not with bananas!

You are comparing Bilawal to family of Rasool Allah pbuh!!!!!

Lol!!!!!

Nauzobillah! How can you conclude this from my post? You misunderstood my post my brother.

I wanted to say,
the criteria to be respectful in front of Allah is `Taqwa` as per the verse, `Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you.` But according to your criteria, it seems that since Bilawal Bhuto Zardari belong to very respected family of Sind hence he will be considered respectful.
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Mr Pakistan1947: Just a brief question

MORAL LESSON that you extracted from those Ayats of Quran is your own thought or it has already been extracted by some scholar!

If you know those scholars then please let me know their names as well!

If that is your IMAGINATION then you can keep your IMAGINATIONS with yourself as we don't need a NEW THOUGHT in Islam!

I do not follow blindly any Peer when the Quraan and authentic Hadeeths are available. Please let me know if there is any Quraanic verse or hadeeth is mis-quoted.
 

Veila Mast

Senator (1k+ posts)
Nauzobillah! How can you conclude this from my post? You misunderstood my post my brother.

I wanted to say,
the criteria to be respectful in front of Allah is `Taqwa` as per the verse, `Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you.` But according to your criteria, it seems that since Bilawal Bhuto Zardari belong to very respected family of Sind hence he will be considered respectful.

You did not understand my point indeed:

You concluded lineage has no importance at all!

Am I right?

But what I am trying to prove is lineage have importance and Taqwa makes it "Sonay Pah Suhaga".

That's why I asked you about reason of awarding Khilafah to Quraish!

If I take your opinion that lineage has no importance at all then Khilfah would have been among Ansari Sahaba Rizwan Allah Tala Ajmaeen as well!

I hope you understand my point.
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Allah's Messenger (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) eradicated the problem of racial or colour discrimination so successfully that superiority is not by birth or colour or blood, but by God-fearing and righteousness.


The message of Islam is for the entire human race. According to Islam, Allah (SWT) is the God of the entire world and the Prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) is a messenger for the whole of mankind. Islam unites the entire human race under one banner without any kind of discrimination.


Allah (SWT) says in Surat Al-Hujurat, "O Mankind! We have created you from a male and female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another. Verily, the most honorable of you in the sight of Allah is he who has most Taqwa among of you. Verily, Allah is All-Knowing, All-Aware." Noble Qur'an (49:13)


In surah Al-Room Allah (SWT) says, "And one of His signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth and the diversity of your tongues and colors; most surely there are signs in this for the learned." Noble Qur'an (30:22)


With this verse, Islam declares equality among people as one human race, one humanity, that is because Islam respect a human for being a human not for any other reason; Islam does not distinguish between two races, or two groups of people, or between two colors, and the prophet Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) addressed the people signifying that concept during the last Hajj pilgrimage, saying: "O People! Your God is one; your father is one; no preference of an Arab neither over non-Arab nor of a non-Arab over an Arab or red over black or black over red except for the most righteous. Verily the most honored of you is the most righteous."
 

Newt0n

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
@Everyone ---- jo baat PAKISTAN1947 nay quote ki hay wo QURAN say hay, yehh to kaha jasakta hay k uss ka matlab wo nahi samj paya but uss ki baat ko galat kehnay ka koi jawaaz hi nahi paida hota....

aur most importantly, i strongly recommend k 1st Caliph ko iss topic may nahi ghasita jaye, kyu k un per baat hi nahi horahi aur na hi khilafat per, baat muqammal tarikay say doosra rukh ikhtiyar karjaye gi....


 

Newt0n

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
@PAKISTAN1947 --- bro, jub hum Huzoor(saww) ki Ahleybait(as) ki baat kartay hain to hamara maqsad har aira gaira nahi hota, hum b un k kirdaar ki waja say hi un ko superior maantay hain,,, aap ko un k taqway may shaq hay??

kyu k agar mehaz family ko hi maanna hota to Huzoor (saww) ki hi family ki chand shakhsiyat say humay ikhtelaf na hota... aur jis particular context may aap baat kar rahay hain, uss silsilay may hum shio ka aqeeda yeh hay k baad az Rasool-e-Akram(sawW) haq-e-Khilafat un ki Ahleybait(aS) ka isliay tha k aap hi un ki ilm k haqiqi waaris thay.... yeh aik alag matter hay aur yeh baat haqiqatan Khilafat say taaluq rakhti hay... jo aayat aap nay quote ki wo umoom per baat kar rahi hay, aur Allah k nazdeek kon motabar hay yeh bata rahi hay, aap k nazdeek kaun hona chaiay yeh nahi....aur uss aayat per kisi ka ikhtelaaf b nahi hay...

koi yeh nahi kehta k Huzoor(saww) ki family sari ki sari afzal thi aur ankh band kar k un ka iteba karna chaiay... balkay infact yeh nazriya to aap k maslak walo ka hay k character ho na ho but jo Nabi k saath tha poora k poora mohtaram tha....

unless until aap ko un k taqway per aitraaz na ho... iss thread ka maqsad mujay to samj nahi aata mere bhai.... and taqwa k saath Huzoor (saww) ki nisbat mil jaye khandaan ki to zaahir hay wo thora ziada mukarram hojaye ga, kyu k Huzoor(saww) ki nisbat b bari nisbat hay... but no doubt Taqwa pehli shart hay jo humay Ahleybait(saww) may nazar aaya aur yaqeeenan Huzoor(saww) ko b nazar hi aaya hoga...jo Hasith-e-Saqlain jaisi ahadith un ki shaan may aap ki zubaan say jaari hui but aap nay nahi parhi galiban....

i hope u get my msg k hum aisa kyu kehtay hain, khuda na karay hum Quraan ki asool say takra nahi rahay... balkay uss k andar reh kar hi keh rahay hain jo keh rahay hain....


 

Newt0n

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
@PAKISTAN1947 ----Waisay mere bhai, just for the record arz kar raha hu for further clarifying what i said above....

Sura-e-Ankaboot ki aayat 27 may Zuriyat ka zikr hay k "Aur hum nay ISHAAQ aur YAQOOB ata kia aur un ki zuriyat may Nabuwat aur Kitaab karaar di awr hum ka is ka badla ussay duniy amay dia aur wo aakhirat may b naiko may sayy hoga"

ab yaha zuriyat may kitaab aur nabuwat kyu qaraar day di?? itnay baray uhday, taqway ki bunyaad per kyu takseem nahi huay?? ab zaahir hay yeh sawaal apnay andar hi jaahilana hay, kyu k jisay b kitaab ya nabuwat mili obviously wo mutaaqi to hoga hi.... iss say zuriyat per koi faraq nahi parta.... but haan yeh fazilat zuriyat ko hi mili....

Then again in Sura-e-Kahaf, aayat 86, Allah has again said, "We gave guidance to Ishmael, Elisha and Jonah and Lot; And We favoured them over the other people of the world" and then in 87 "As We did some of their fathers and progeny and brethren, and chose them, and showed them the right path."

Then again in Sura-e-Aal-e-Imaran Verse 33,"Allah chose Adam, Nuh (Noah), the family of Ibrahim (Abraham) and the family of 'Imran above the 'Alamin (mankind and jinn) (of their times)

then in Sura-e-Baqara, Verse 124,"And (remember) when the Lord of Ibrahim (Abraham) [i.e., Allah] tried him with (certain) Commands, which he fulfilled. He (Allah) said (to him), "Verily, I am going to make you an Imam (a leader) for mankind (to follow you)." [Ibrahim (Abraham)] said, "And of my offspring (to make leaders)." (Allah) said, "My Covenant (Prophethood) includes not Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers)."

Then again in Sura-e-Furqan Verse 35,"We gave Moses the Book, and made his brother Aaron his minister" and Y was Haroon(as) appointed his Wazeer.... I hope u remember Hz Moosa's prayer in Sura-e-Ta-HA.,"(Moses) said: "O my Lord! expand me my breast;(25)And make my mission easy. (26)Remove the defect of my tongue(27) "So they may understand what I say:(28) And give me a Minister from my family,(29) Aaron, my brother;(30)"

to bhai mere aisa b nahi hay k families important nahi hoti, but jo asool aap nay kaha uss usool k maa-tahet, yeh dono aayat aapas may takrati nahi hain, ab aap nay iss say family ko nikaal bahar kia to yeh aap ki marzi hay, wrna Quran may uss nasal ka b zikr milta hay k inhi paigambaro ki aulaado may say kuch nafarmaan thay.... Hz. Ibrahim ki b dua hay k Ay mere Allah meri nasal may say aik girooh aisa rakh jo teri ibadat karay!!.... aur ussi nasal may Huzoor(saww) aaye....aur Huzoor(saww) ka AHL un ki family may wohi hoga jo Allah ka ibadatguzaar aur muttaqi hoga.... but har Nabi ka wasi uss k khaandaan say hua hay... as i said k yeh alag topic hay... ya to Ahleybait Muttaqi nahi thay..... agar mehaz Huzoor(saww) ki b baat aap karain to Quran hi may un k khaandaan ki fazilat ka pata chalta hay, ab yeh behas chalti rahay gi k family may kaun hay aur kaun nahi hay, yeh aik ikhtelafi masla hay, but iss say un k khandaan ki sehat per koi farak nahi parta... aur as i said ya to aap yeh bataye k Ahleybait(saww) mutaqi nahi thay, aur agar thay to un ki fazilat maannay may aap ko kia aitraaz hay???


 

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