US to supply Pakistan with 85 mini-drones

[Geek]

(Reuters) - The United States will provide Pakistan with 85 small "Raven" drone aircraft, a U.S. military official told Reuters on Thursday, a key step to meeting Islamabad's calls for access to U.S. drone technology.

The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, declined to disclose the cost or model of the non-lethal, short-range aircraft, which are manufactured by the U.S.-based AeroVironment Inc

http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/04/21/usa-pakistan-drones-idINN2129161820110421

 

[sngilani]

Mini-drons ....hahhahahahahahahah ......without bombs lol ;)

 

[jaanmark]

wE DO NOT NEED SUCH WEAP IN PAKISTAN .

NO MORE KILLING IN PAKISTAN.

 

[Raaz]

Just to play around....

These r made of paper.

 

[Geek]

The AeroVironment RQ-11 Raven is a small hand-launched remote-controlled unmanned aerial vehicle (or SUAV) developed for the U.S. military, but now adopted by the military forces of many other countries.
The RQ-11 Raven was originally introduced as the FQM-151 in 1999, but in 2002 developed into its current form.[2] The craft is launched by hand and powered by an electric motor. The plane can fly up to 6.2 miles (10.0 km) at up to altitudes of 10,000 feet (3,000 m) above ground level (AGL), and 15,000 feet (4,600 m) mean sea level (MSL), at flying speeds of 28-60 mph (45–97 km/h).[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AeroVironment_RQ-11_Raven

 

[Night_Hawk]

Thank you for the info.

 

[sarbakaf]

 

[sarbakaf]

well i think if pakistanis can manage to get mini drones they will also manage to get the weaponized drones.
and secondly we probably will sacrifice few drones and copy the technology otherwise chinese will help us in copying that.

 

[drkjke]

(Reuters) - The United States will provide Pakistan with 85 small "Raven" drone aircraft, a U.S. military official told Reuters on Thursday, a key step to meeting Islamabad's calls for access to U.S. drone technology.

The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, declined to disclose the cost or model of the non-lethal, short-range aircraft, which are manufactured by the U.S.-based AeroVironment Inc

http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/04/21/usa-pakistan-drones-idINN2129161820110421

ok so kyani was successful in america
he begged his american masters to give his army drones so pak army can kill tribal people directly and do this honour for american zionists themselves
meanwhile in mohmand agency pak armys daily bombings are resulting in deaths of many people

anyway soon a day will come when whole nation will pay for this crime against islam and humanity

now kashmiris i talk to also say that why we join pakistan when there army kills fellow muslims for no reason
jamia hafza episode also resulted in loss of faith of kashmiri muslims regarding pakistan
if these civil and millitary rulers are not swiftly removed and dealt without any mercy,,,than be prepared for the tragic end

 

[Zindabad]

Well well they gave Pakistan mini drone why? I think bcoz shabaz sharif visited china few days ago and mention abt to get Chinese drone ok. But American giving Pakistan 10yrs old mini drone on very expense price u know it will be in millions and most of the money goes in pocket of big Politician leader.

 

[umarriaz]

US also giving packets of chocolate candies and lollipops for Pakistani leader ship
:banana: :baby: :banana:

 

[gazoomartian]

I pray that our scientists turn these drones into a full fledge high altitude, high payload bomber and high caliber fighters, Ameen

BUT there is something to think about. Why is US selling these? Who we gonna bomb? US definitely would want these drones to drop bombs on India. So who is left in our neighbors that we would use em on?

May be US is planning on playing Pakistan off against Iran thru US selected govt such as Zardari and cronies? this is the only reason I can think of.

Or may be its just a business. US will lend Pak few 100 million $ and Pak will use those money to buy drones from US manufacturers.

can you think of anything else?

 

[gazoomartian]

ok so kyani was successful in america
he begged his american masters to give his army drones so pak army can kill tribal people directly and do this honour for american zionists themselves
meanwhile in mohmand agency pak armys daily bombings are resulting in deaths of many people

anyway soon a day will come when whole nation will pay for this crime against islam and humanity

now kashmiris i talk to also say that why we join pakistan when there army kills fellow muslims for no reason
jamia hafza episode also resulted in loss of faith of kashmiri muslims regarding pakistan
if these civil and millitary rulers are not swiftly removed and dealt without any mercy,,,than be prepared for the tragic end

Its not a crime against Islam. Nobody is hurting or will be able to hurt Islam. Arent we already paying for crimes committed by Mush, BB, ZAB etc?

Would you like the army to fully de-armed? Would you like to fully dismantle the army, navy and the air force? Would these please you at all?

Our tragic end began the moment you started writing stupid posts. Everybody blames the army, have been brain washed by RAW.CIA,Mossad

 

[patriot]

By Michael Hughes

April 20, 2011 "Examiner" -- It’s more than a coincidence that Al Qaeda’s reemergence in northeastern Afghanistan is occurring at the same time Pakistan’s relationship with the U.S. is collapsing, according to several tribal elders and a native Afghan policy expert, as Islamabad attempts to align more closely with Kabul to establish a united front against the American-led coalition.

Haji Baydar Zazai, a tribal elder from Paktia province, said Pakistani officials are climbing in bed with Afghan President Hamid Karzai so they can achieve their security goals outside the watchful eye of the U.S. - objectives which include blocking India from having any influence in Kabul.

Afghan native Khalil Nouri, a policy strategist with the New World Strategies Coalition (NWSC), indicated that although the U.S. has given Islamabad billions of dollars to eliminate militant sanctuaries Pakistan has been enraged by CIA drone strikes and CIA contractors killing civilians, which has prompted Islamabad to “unleash the dogs” in retaliation for the U.S. violating its national sovereignty on a daily basis.

Irate Army chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani has kicked over 300 U.S. clandestine and Special Forces personnel out of the country and is demanding an end to the CIA’s drone campaign.
Meanwhile, Al Qaeda is expanding its network across Kunar and Nuristan in the wake of a U.S. drawdown from the region that began 18 months ago. Experts have said that, although Pakistan can help prevent it, increasing violence by militants has pressured Kabul to bow to Pakistani wishes.

According to former CIA officer Bruce Riedel, Kayani and the chief of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), Ahmed Shuja Pasha, want to return to what Riedel calls the “Reagan rules”, referring to the 1980s when the CIA and Saudis provided the ISI with the funds to arm and train the mujahideen. It was a very “hands off” approach that left the entire execution of the program in the hands of Pakistani intelligence The U.S. footprint – between Washington, Islamabad and Riyadh combined – was less than 100 CIA officers.

As a chill descends upon relations between Washington and Islamabad, Afghanistan and Pakistan agreed to form a commission to negotiate a power-sharing arrangement with the Taliban that would grant Pakistani military leaders a formal role in the reconciliation process.

Kayani has aggressively tried to strike a deal with Karzai knowing the U.S. will begin withdrawing forces from Afghanistan this summer and will try to remove all combat personnel by 2014. For Karzai’s part, he is concerned about his political future in a post-NATO world, fearful of standing naked against the insurgency, and thus is seeking Rawalpindi’s help in soothing tensions with the Taliban.

However, President Karzai acquiesces to Islamabad at his own peril because based on historical evidence and recent developments it’s easy to envision Al Qaeda and the Taliban running roughshod through Afghanistan, with support from Pakistan’s military and intelligence apparatus, once NATO leaves.

Pakistan's former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Iftikhar Ahmed Sirohey, cryptically summed up the Afghan President’s chances of survival when he told me last year that Karzai would survive only one day after his “external escort is removed."

In fact, it looks like Karzai’s honeymoon is already coming to an end, considering Afghan television station TOLOnews reported yesterday that Pakistani Premier Yusuf Raza Gilani issued Karzai a series of demands during his recent visit to Kabul. Pakistan said that Afghanistan must consult them on all activities related to the expansion and training of Afghan security forces, provide them a share in Afghan mine development and disclose details of any agreements Afghanistan has with its western allies.

Afghan experts believe these demands threaten Afghanistan’s sovereignty and independence. Noor-ul Haq Ulomi, an Afghan political analyst, said that Pakistan has never been honest with Afghanistan and now it appears Pakistan has "made a close friendship" with the Afghan government, previouly hidden from public view.

Pakistan has reportedly enhanced its influence within almost every Afghan government entity over the past 10 years, primarily clandestinely. Haroon Mir, another Afghan expert, alleged that President Karzai has begun negotiating covertly with Pakistan and was on the verge of making concessions in an effort to reconcile with the Taliban, which he believes would be a tragic mistake.

Islamabad has enjoyed considerable leverage over Washington knowing that Pakistan is indispensable to the success of President Obama’s Afghan war strategy. Yet the trust deficit is now so high that Pakistani leaders wholeheartedly believe the U.S. will abandon the region completely and will terminate the flow of financial aid. Because of this, according to Foreign Policy magazine, Pakistan wants the U.S. – just like the Soviets before them - to "bleed a little” on their way out the door.

Pakistani leaders realize they can deliver a crippling blow to the U.S. war effort by blocking critical NATO supply lines that run through Pakistan into Afghanistan. Former Pakistani spy chief Hamid Gul boasted in a recent interview that by choking off these supply routes Pakistan can turn Afghanistan into a “graveyard for U.S. troops.”

Many analysts have argued that the U.S.-led occupation of Afghanistan is actually fueling the insurgency and is the true destabilizing force in the region, which might be true. Yet, once the Western coalition is finally gone, Afghanistan will still have to deal with the destabilizing force next door.

 

[SaadKnight]

Yeh kya hai :angry_smile:? Yeh drone ka bacha nahein chahiye, poora sahi salamat drone bum wala do.

 

[crankthskunk]

Yeh kya hai :angry_smile:? Yeh drone ka bacha nahein chahiye, poora sahi salamat drone bum wala do.

I have written it before input of Pakistan in development of fighter jets by China is priceless. Pakistan helps and gives input on avionics, radar, electronics and body design of the aircraft, based on western technologies, to bring the Chinese products to western standards and compete with the west.

I know there are many Zaid Hamid fans here, I may not be a Defence Analyst like Zaid Hamid, but I know a thing or two.

For example, it has been alleged that J10 is based on F16, the technology transferred by Pakistan, and also on the design of abandoned Israeli fighter jet project Levi.

Now, it is also alleged that new Chinese drone, which could be fitted with weapons is based on USA predator drones. It is also alleged that Pakistan transferred the wreckage of a downed US drone to China.

Please look at the new Chinese drone, the resemblance with US drones is undeniable.

It seems Pakistan has already start the work on weapons carrying drone technology, but as I wrote on another thread, Pakistan is hamstrung due to the limited industrial base it has, therefore, Chinas larger and more developed industrial base is used to produce the results.

I am sure days are not far, when Pakistan will have drones with weapons mounted on them.

 

[PAINDO]

Yeh kya hai :angry_smile:? Yeh drone ka bacha nahein chahiye, poora sahi salamat drone bum wala do.

ABHEE YEH 05 SALL KA HAY 15 SALL BAAD JAWAN HO JAY GA AOR BLOGAT BHEE AA JAY GEE :lol: