Unvisible hands behind terrorism in Karachi. But who are the their local operators in Pakistan, spec

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: MQM Target Killers & PPP - Secrete Deals

The report contained many names of MQM karkun arrested for target killing.
Can you deny that?
Why Zulfiqar Mirza is afraid to bring them in front of media?
The same type of report published, when Zulfiqar Mirza claimed that, 26 target killers belong to MQM out of captured 60, and majority of target killers captured from MQM.
Then MQM said to him, that present them in the court, then CCPO Sind admitted only 33 were captured, just two days after Zulfiqar Mirza statement on TV.



Regarding, why Zulfiqar Mirza is afraid.
I think the same reason, why other afraid, after
accusing MQM on JINNAH PUR conspiracy, Hakeem Saeed Murder, Editor Sallahuddin Murder, Mufti Shamzai Murder, etc.
They also didn't prove, what they said.





Only For Haters Education.


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Haters have a habit of blaming MQM for every crime in Karachi, But Allah always put Kalak on their dirty faces.

For instance when Suicide Bomber attacked 12 Rabi ul Awal procession in Nishter park Karachi, Jamat e Islami quickly points towards MQM,
but later the Jamat e Ahl e Sunnat Ameer cleared that it was a suicide attack and the attacker belonged from Mansehra.



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Major Kaleem Case, again embarrassment was the fate of liers.





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Accusing lawyers burning of MQM on 12th April, 2008 is another misleading story. Till today, they haven't issued the name of lawyers were burnt. Although, they offered, GHAIBANA NAMAZ-e-JANAZA of the lawyers.

Ask the Aitizaz Ahsan, the name of the lawyers, who burnt on 12th April, 2008. I'm not posting the video, but I'm posting the names of the supporters, who burnt in Lawyer chambers, who you people have been thinking was lawyers.




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Editor Takbeer Murder accusation.
By the grace of God. Jamaaties and haters faced humiliation of life time.


KARACHI, Jan 7: The murder case of Maulana Salahuddin has taken dramatic turn with the startling disclosures
by his daughter that she suspects the involvement of her husband in the assassination of her father, who was editor of Takbeer. She called upon the government to reinvestigate the case. She also pleaded for associating her husband, Rafiq Afghan, editor of an Urdu daily, with the inquiry and added that she had decided to seek separation from her husband. Speaking to Dawn on Thursday, Saadia said she had sent a request to the interior minister a few days ago expressing her concern over the state of investigations conducted in the case. She said in her communication to the minister that the police had installed "fake" suspects. The interior minister, Chaudhry Shujaat, when contacted by Dawn, said that now the case of Maulana Salahuddin, who was murdered outside his offices in 1994, could not bereinvestigated as a scrutiny committee comprising the personnel of the army's judge advocate general branch, military intelligence, the ISI and the chief secretary had scrutinised the case andprepared it for its trial by a military court. Terming the move by Saadia as a
"belated one", the interior minister said Rafiq Afghan could not be cited even as
co-accused in the case according to the procedures being adopted in the scrutiny and disposal of cases. In her letter to the federal minister, Saadia said, she had expressed her fears that Rafiq Afghan wanted to flee the country with their two-year-old son and,
therefore, his name be put on theexit control list. She said she had also written that Rafiq would be fleeing the country to either Iran or Afghanistan, alleging that he had in his possession an ID card with the fake name of Saleem, "and he must be having a passport with a fake name, as well." A few days later, Saadia said, she s***e to the interior minister who acknowledged the receipt of her letter, saying the government would definitely do something in this regard. Saadia, who, according to her, has had estranged relations with her husband
ever since "he kicked me out from his house in 1997", said that her suspicions, which had now turned into a firm belief, were
based on "convincing reasons". The woman claimed that the only witness and complainant in the murder case, the late Salahuddin's driver, had been coerced by her husband to identify one of the two "fake" suspects in police custody, Saleem TT. Later on, she said, the CIA police on their own brought the other "fake" suspect, Nadeem Mota, to the residence of the driver, Amjad Pervaiz, to force him to identify Nadeem as well as an assassin.

She said the management of Takbeer, headed by her, had taken a stand soon after the case was reopened following
the imposition of governor's rule and had detected numerous instances of foul play in
the investigations carried out by the police. She said Amjad Pervaiz volunteered to speak out the truth when he found that the magazine had already taken a stand on the issue and on the occasion of second fake identification he refused to oblige the police. "I noticed a U-turn in the overall attitude of my husband soon after the reopening of the case as he who had ejected me from the house was now showing willingness to welcome me, which I refused," said Saadia, who was married to Rafiq Afghan in 1988. Only yesterday, she said, the
witness (Amjad Pervaiz) was unofficially produced before the high-ranking police officials comprising, among others, the DIG of Karachi, at Takbeer's offices. He told them that he was shown various photographs of suspect Saleem TT by Rafiq in the latter's office "forcing" him to identify the suspect for police. Saadia claimed that in the entire course of inquiries no one from Takbeer had been approached by the law enforcement agencies since the murder. She said that the driver was approached independently and the management had never been informed about it. She said the situation suggested that the police wanted to save the real culprits involved in the conspiracy hatched to kill her father.

The
DAWN Group of Newspapers, 1999



And no need to say, what happened to Jinnah Pur accusation, Hakeem Saeed Murder Case, etc.
 

PTI_Lover

MPA (400+ posts)
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bhaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnn

baat bari simple see hai aur aap itnniiiiiiiiiiiiiii lambi daastaane le k aa jatay ho pata nhi kaha kaha se

Deal is between PPP and MQM

MQM target killers are being used as a trump card in this deal to keep the govt. alive, but tum jese logo k pas behs karne k ilawa aur koi raasta hi nahi hai, tum logo k liye wo raat hi hogi, jo chahye poori dunya k liye din ho
 

PTI_Lover

MPA (400+ posts)
Re: MQM Target Killers & PPP - Secrete Deals

The same type of report published, when Zulfiqar Mirza claimed that, 26 target killers belong to MQM out of captured 60, and majority of target killers captured from MQM.
Then MQM said to him, that present them in the court, then CCPO Sind admitted only 33 were captured, just two days after Zulfiqar Mirza statement on TV.

Debate is on a news of Daily Jang, not on a statement of a political party
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bhaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnn

baat bari simple see hai aur aap itnniiiiiiiiiiiiiii lambi daastaane le k aa jatay ho pata nhi kaha kaha se

Deal is between PPP and MQM


MQM target killers are being used as a trump card in this deal to keep the govt. alive, but tum jese logo k pas behs karne k ilawa aur koi raasta hi nahi hai, tum logo k liye wo raat hi hogi, jo chahye poori dunya k liye din ho
To make reply immaculate.
Not a single example was figment of imagination, all of them was proven.
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: MQM Target Killers & PPP - Secrete Deals

Debate is on a news of Daily Jang, not on a statement of a political party
All my replies related to that.
If not than point out that part of the reply which you think was not.
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: MQM Target Killers & PPP - Secrete Deals

:( You mean, if the ruling party is under pressure, they have the right to release the target killers through such deals ?
What made you think that? I didn't say that.
All I said, if PPP govt is such a believer in rule of law that, they didn't compromise in arresting target killers who belongs to PPP.
Then why PPP is doing deal with MQM as claiming in the news.
 

nasirzaman

Senator (1k+ posts)
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bhaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnn

baat bari simple see hai aur aap itnniiiiiiiiiiiiiii lambi daastaane le k aa jatay ho pata nhi kaha kaha se

Deal is between PPP and MQM

MQM target killers are being used as a trump card in this deal to keep the govt. alive, but tum jese logo k pas behs karne k ilawa aur koi raasta hi nahi hai, tum logo k liye wo raat hi hogi, jo chahye poori dunya k liye din ho

aur tum inter net party pti wakon ke pass such sunne aur dekhne ki himmat nahi hai.sirf iljam lagane ki aadat hai aur jab sacha aadmi apne haq me dalail de to tum log bor hune lagte ho tum logon ka dil sirf inter net me apne leader ke susralion ki gori camri dekhne me lagta hai isi lye inter net tak mehdood ho
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
yaar apke gharon men bhaion ko bajian kaha jata hai to iska mutlab yeh nahi ke yeh salah her gaga istenmal ho to bahi apni saqafat apne ghar tuk mehdood rakhen

aur tum inter net party pti wakon ke pass such sunne aur dekhne ki himmat nahi hai.sirf iljam lagane ki aadat hai aur jab sacha aadmi apne haq me dalail de to tum log bor hune lagte ho tum logon ka dil sirf inter net me apne leader ke susralion ki gori camri dekhne me lagta hai isi lye inter net tak mehdood ho

Again Indians running to rescue of their assets in Pakistan. (omg)
 

nasirzaman

Senator (1k+ posts)
Again Indians running to rescue of their assets in Pakistan. (omg)

chalo baqool tumhare hum indian sahi lekin tum log to abhi bhi angresoon ki hi emma per amal ker rahe ho tumhare leader ka pora susral gora hai lekin hum mqm wale is pakistani awam ko dobara goron ka ghulam nahi banne den ge pakistan zindabad
 

elipst

Minister (2k+ posts)
The same hands that support the banned organisations in Karachi like Lashkar-e-jhangvi, Sipah-e-Sahaba, Sipah-e-Muhammad, Harkat ul jehad etc etc.
They are responsible for target killings, they are the local operators
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
The same hands that support the banned organisations in Karachi like Lashkar-e-jhangvi, Sipah-e-Sahaba, Sipah-e-Muhammad, Harkat ul jehad etc etc.
They are responsible for target killings, they are the local operators

Have these criminals signed any agreement with the (MQM+PPPP+ANP) to kill their poor activists? What is fixed as fee for per murder? What is the rate for the head of innocent passer by? What is the score (targeted murders) of these organizations. What about the MQM+ANP workers who are more often than not caught red handed in target killing and then released on the orders of people in government?
 

elipst

Minister (2k+ posts)
Have these criminals signed any agreement with the (MQM+PPPP+ANP) to kill their poor activists? What is fixed as fee for per murder? What is the rate for the head of innocent passer by? What is the score (targeted murders) of these organizations. What about the MQM+ANP workers who are more often than not caught red handed in target killing and then released on the orders of people in government?

I am not saying that political parties dont kill but we have seen in the past that these banned organisations would kill members of all parties to spark a war between them. Political parties are to blame of course for not acting more maturely.

The banned organisations are responsible for killing members of other sects, doctors, religous leaders, businessmen and also MQM, ANP, PPP members because they are secular parties and (mostly) against sectarianism. And since MQM is the most vocal and the largest party it takes the most casualties.
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
I am not saying that political parties dont kill but we have seen in the past that these banned organisations would kill members of all parties to spark a war between them. Political parties are to blame of course for not acting more maturely.

The banned organisations are responsible for killing members of other sects, doctors, religous leaders, businessmen and also MQM, ANP, PPP members because they are secular parties and (mostly) against sectarianism. And since MQM is the most vocal and the largest party it takes the most casualties.

Agreed brother, but please enlighten me on the following questions:

1. Can these banned terrorist org work without support?
2. Suppose political parties don't support them, then who facilitates them? Black Water/XE? RAW? MOSSAD? CIA? Isn't it an open secret now?
3. Where are these spy and shooter agencies stationed? In all the big cities in Pakistan, specially in Karachi? They have hired dozens of large houses there with help of whom, isn't it government?
4. Whose is the most popular in Karachi politics and in Government since long?
5. Aren't MQM/PPPP/ANP committing treason against Pakistan?

What is your take?
 

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