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I want to know that Quran says that only Allah knows the Unseen. But i found out in a hadith that Prophet PBUH told us that Jinn the fortuneteller a part of truth and then fortune teller mix it with a hundred lies and tells to us , In another hadiths Prophet PBUH tells us that Astrology is only based on lies " Sun and Moon are only Signs of Allah"
So How does Jinn tells the fortune while only Allah knows the Fortune?.
Praise be to Allaah.
Knowledge of the unseen is something that Allaah has kept for Himself, as is indicated by the texts of the Qur’aan and Sunnah. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):“Say: “None in the heavens and the earth knows the Ghaib (Unseen) except Allaah, nor can they perceive when they shall be resurrected”[al-Naml 27:65]
“And with Him are the keys of the Ghayb (all that is hidden), none knows them but He. And He knows whatever there is in the land and in the sea; not a leaf falls, but He knows it. There is not a grain in the darkness of the earth nor anything fresh or dry, but is written in a Clear Record”[al-An’aam 6:59]
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) explained these keys as referring to five things which are mentioned in Soorat Luqmaan, where Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):“Verily, Allaah, with Him (Alone) is the knowledge of the Hour, He sends down the rain, and knows that which is in the wombs. No person knows what he will earn tomorrow, and no person knows in what land he will die. Verily, Allaah is All?Knower, All?Aware (of things)”[Luqmaan 31:34].
Al-Bukhaari narrated in his Saheeh (hadeeth no. 4477) that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “Whoever tells you that he knows what will happen tomorrow is lying.” Then she recited, “No person knows what he will earn tomorrow.”
But with regard to this matter it is important to know what is the unseen the knowledge of which Allaah has kept to Himself, because al-ghayb (the unseen) means that which is not seen, and that which is not seen may be either that which is not seen by all of creation – both those who are in the heavens and those who are on earth – this kind of unseen is known to no one but Allaah, and this is that which is called al-ghayb al-mutlaq (the unseen in the absolute sense); or this unseen matter may be unseen for some people, and known to some others. This is called unseen for the one who is ignorant of it, but it is not unseen or unknown to all people, and knowledge of it is not unique to Allaah. Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in Sharh al-‘Aqeedah al-Waasitiyyah (p. 158): What is meant by the unseen is that which is not seen. The unseen is something relative. But that which is unseen in the absolute sense (al-ghyab al-mutlaq) is known only to Allaah. End quote.
What fortune-tellers say of things that will happen in the future has nothing to do with the unseen or with knowledge of the unseen, and it is not knowledge of what will happen in the future. Rather they are liars who make false claims. But the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) has told us that they steal knowledge of that which Allaah has revealed to His angels. It was narrated that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: Some people asked the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) about fortune-tellers, and he said: “They are nothing.” They said: O Messenger of Allaah, they say something and it comes true. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “That is a word of truth which the jinni snatches and cackles into the ear of his familiar like the cackling of a hen, and they mix more than one hundred lies with it.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (7561).
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) explained how the jinn steal this word. He said: “…when our Lord, may His name be blessed and exalted, decrees some matter, the bearers of the Throne glorify Him, then the people of heaven who are closest to them glorify Him, until the tasbeeh reaches the people of the lowest heaven. Then those who are nearest to the bearers of the Throne say: What did your Lord say? And they tell them what He said. And the people of heaven ask one another for the news, until the news reaches the lowest heaven. Then the eavesdropping jinn snatch what they can and convey it to their familiars. What they narrated as they heard it is true, but they add lies to it.” Narrated by Muslim (2229).
From this it is clear that the jinn do not have knowledge of the unseen, rather they steal words that they hear from the angels, but the angels themselves do not have any knowledge of that unless Allaah tells them of it. After they are told of it, it is no longer regarded as unseen in the absolute sense, but before that they are like anyone else in creation and do not know anything of the unseen. This depends on Allaah’s telling them of it. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):““(He Alone is) the All?Knower of the Ghayb (Unseen), and He reveals to none His Ghayb (Unseen)”[al-Jinn 72:26].
Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The noblest of the angelic Messengers, Jibreel, asked the noblest of the human Messengers, Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “Tell me about the Hour.” He said: “The one who is asked about it is does not know any more about it than the one who is asking” meaning, just as you have no knowledge of it, I have no knowledge of it either. End quote.
Sharh al-‘Aqeedah al-Waasitiyyah, p. 158
Dear Pakistani, regarding jinns telling people lies, my question is why would they tell people lies about the unseen? This will clearly discredit them, can they not think even that much for themselves? If I really do have capability to know something regardless how I come to know it, it would build my reputation to tell only that what is true so that people have reason to follow me. If I keep telling them truths and lies then people with a bit of sense will come to know that I am not a credible person to be trusted.
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I believe in quran as the only truth available on the face of this earth... in quran it is clearly mention what jins can do..like they can build castles then can cook they can dive in the deep sea they can listen few words from heaven and passed it to their partners in human. (Story of Suliman (A.S) in quran )
They travel and can spy ..like they listen the quran (sura jin) they were spying why the heaven is protected now..etc.
there are shiateen who are friend to the people who are like them there main task is not to provide service to human but to misguide them that what they do .. they make people
to start worship false peer.. they harm people so they start search to harm people they spy and give specific information to peer so as you enter he will tell your name and from where
you are coming and your current situation etc... there are reference in Quran and Hadith...
They can appear in human form like iblees appear at the time of Badar (in a shape of a tribe leader) and later run away when he saw the angles are coming (Quran).
also when the kaffer were planning to kill Muhammad (S.A.W) he was there and rejecting all ideas until they decide to kill.
Finally no human can get control over them like making them slave it is not possible because it was specific to hazarat Suliman (A.S) .. (Quran)
Dear jahanzaibi, the problem with saying that Allah said this or that, or the prophet said this or that is that, in case of Allah the interpretation is by humans and in case of prophet we also need to prove that what we claim as hadith to be is actually hadith and also that we have understood it correctly. Otherwise whatever we attribute to Allah or the prophet is open to possibility of being true or false.
If it is true fine but what if it is false? Because the quran command that we attribute to Allah nothing save that which is true. This is why we need to know the rules or ways whereby we could be sure that what we say is saying of Allah or the prophet is actually so. This then helps us to eliminate a lot of falsehood that is attributed to Allah and his messenger.
In other words we need to wisen up a bit if we are to come out of our ignorance and divisions. This is simply not possible if we just do not learn the ways that will help us. It is like if we want to solve mathematical problems then we must get to know ways and means of solving those problems. So if we want to get out of rut and division then we must work out ways and means that wil help us do that. No way of doing something means you cannot do it. If you can do something then there has to be a way to do it so we must find it out and use it.
regards and all the best
Dear jahanzaibi, the problem with saying that Allah said this or that, or the prophet said this or that is that, in case of Allah the interpretation is by humans and in case of prophet we also need to prove that what we claim as hadith to be is actually hadith and also that we have understood it correctly. Otherwise whatever we attribute to Allah or the prophet is open to possibility of being true or false.
regards and all the best
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