To The Point - 24th December 2011 - Imran Khan - Questions & Answers with IBA Students & Faculty

indigo

Siasat.pk - Blogger
pochta hu me tum se... kiyo na aesa kiya jaye k mard pe pabandi lagai jaye k woh aurat ko na dekhae....
parda k zaroorat hi hatam hojaye gi... par yaha k mullah yeh kaam kabhi nai karae ge... jis se sar jukae

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Also yes i agree that most probably IK will make an alliance with religious parties which would help drive some change towards islam in our society.
 

indigo

Siasat.pk - Blogger
bhai tum kis islam ki baat krtae ho? islam sab ka ek hai, Hum Quran Hadith or Sunah ko follow krtae hai or hamesha krae ge...
bilkul jese iqbal ne apni reconstruction of religious thought in islam me kaha hai...

ham pakistan ko reform krae ge inshallah!

Islam ki bunyad Quran aur Sunnah hain.

Quran aur sunnah donon main buhat wazih beghair kisi ibham k laws bayan kiye gaye hain k regarding clothing for muslim men and women.

Now that is Islam.

I sincerely ask you to think before you write something so erratic.
 

IhsanIlahi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
How decently students of Karachi have asked smart questions to Imran Khan...argument with no hate no anger (clap)

It shows clear difference of mentality of Karachi's youth and Lahore's youth (Ref. Kamran Shahid program)


meray bhai lahore ki youth bhi imran ko dil se pasand krti hai,,,, kamran shahid k program me pml-n ne apny boys plant kye te,,,, u would remember especially wo terhy muo wala jo bar bar long march ki baat kr rha tha,,, jesy us ki maa ko imran ne ankh mari ho gali me,,,, ya phir nawaz uski behen ka hony wala mangetar lagta ho,,,, we should not consider them as youth representatives,,,, they are just nawaz paid servants
 

Abdul Allah

Minister (2k+ posts)
Islam is what Quran and hadith said
So
Read What Quran says
(30. Tell the believing men to lower their gaze, and protect their private parts. That is purer for them. Verily, Allah is All-Aware of what they do.)

In Verse 31 from Sura-e-Noor Chapter 24 Allah SWT says:

And say to the believing women that they cast down their looks and guard their modesty (private parts) and do not display their beauty and ornaments except what appear thereof, and let them wear their head-coverings over their bosoms and not display their ornaments except to their husbands,(Mahrams). ..and let them not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments

(31. And tell the believing women to lower their gaze, and protect their private parts and not to show off their adornment except that which is apparent, and to draw their veils all over their Juyub and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband's fathers, or their sons, or their husband's sons, or their brothers or their brother's sons, or their sister's sons, or their women, or their right hand possessions, or the Tabi`in among men who do not have desire, or children who are not aware of the nakedness of women. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful.)


and both parties please Imran have said it only in light mood not it means that he is saying that he will promote any thing bad etc...
 

Abdul Allah

Minister (2k+ posts)
Bhai Marad py kis type ki pabandi lagai ja sakti hy jis sy ZARORAT hy khatam ho jaye??

please practical solution.

by the way Mullah(as you said ) promote (or atleast try to promote) Quran so Quran have already say this
Clear orders for both men and women read my last post.

So in light of that now give a practical solution about what you said
 
I live in swedan the $** center Europe. I wont ask govt of Swedan govt to put woman in Hijab because it make complication in my status but yes All woman in pakistan should be barred by a "UNISLAMIC" party
Tehreek-e-Insaf auraton k kapron main mudakhlat nahin kare ge.

IK ne apni asli shakal dikha de...


IK agar tum Pakistan ko Islami falahi riyasat banana chahite ho to Islami nizam bhi lana pare gaa...
 

PAINDO

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Tehreek-e-Insaf auraton k kapron main mudakhlat nahin kare ge.

IK ne apni asli shakal dikha de...


IK agar tum Pakistan ko Islami falahi riyasat banana chahite ho to Islami nizam bhi lana pare gaa...


179987-deen-islam-main-zabardasti-nahi.html

لَا إِكْرَاهَ فِي الدِّينِ ۖ قَدْ تَبَيَّنَ الرُّشْدُ مِنَ الْغَيِّ ۚ فَمَنْ يَكْفُرْ بِالطَّاغُوتِ وَيُؤْمِنْ بِاللَّهِ فَقَدِ اسْتَمْسَكَ بِالْعُرْوَةِ الْوُثْقَىٰ لَا انْفِصَامَ لَهَا ۗ وَاللَّهُ سَمِيعٌ عَلِيمٌ

اللَّهُ وَلِيُّ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا يُخْرِجُهُمْ مِنَ الظُّلُمَاتِ إِلَى النُّورِ ۖ وَالَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا أَوْلِيَاؤُهُمُ الطَّاغُوتُ يُخْرِجُونَهُمْ مِنَ النُّورِ إِلَى الظُّلُمَاتِ ۗ أُولَٰئِكَ أَصْحَابُ النَّارِ ۖ هُمْ فِيهَا خَالِدُونَ


دین (اسلام) میں زبردستی نہیں ہے ہدایت (صاف طور پر ظاہر اور) گمراہی سے الگ ہو چکی ہے تو جو شخص بتوں سے اعتقاد نہ رکھے اور اللہ پر ایمان لائے اس نے ایسی مضبوط رسی ہاتھ میں پکڑ لی ہے جو کبھی ٹوٹنے والی نہیں اور اللہ (سب کچھ) سنتا اور (سب کچھ) جانتا ہے

جو لوگ ایمان لائے ہیں ان کا دوست اللہ ہے کہ اُن کو اندھیرے سے نکال کر روشنی میں لے جاتا ہے اور جو کافر ہیں ان کے دوست شیطان ہیں کہ ان کو روشنی سے نکال کر اندھیرے میں لے جاتے ہیں یہی لوگ اہل دوزخ ہیں کہ اس میں ہمیشہ رہیں گے



Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth stands out clear from Error; whoever rejects Evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.

Allah is the Protector of those who have faith: from the depths of darkness, He will lead them forth into light. Of those who reject faith the patrons are the Evil Ones: from light they will lead them forth into the depths of darkness. They will be companions of the fire, to dwell therein (for ever).


 

SalmanKhanN

MPA (400+ posts)
I agree with everything u say... and also agree that imran khan should be better.. but he is not perfect..he is not like khalifas even.. his quality is his honesty.. and believe in one Allah and he tries to follow Prophet Muhammad SAW.. and i disagree with him with some of his religious stances or others.. but he is trying.. pray from Allah SWT that he becomes a better muslim and also everyone in pakistan also for urself and me..
yaar if today mahdi comes inshAllah i will leave imran khan.. and i am sure even imran will leave himself and follow the Mehdi that is to come inshAllah.. but now we dont see anything like a leader then..munawar hassan are good people.. but they lack leadership quality in my opinion.. and the following.. they should keep their efforts.. but inshAllah.. they can make alliance and we can move towards a true islamic republic of Pakistan and dont waste time with some of the brothers here... some of them have lost the meaning of true Islam.. they say that following Quran and Sunnah is Mullahism or something.. dont waste time with them.. i have wasted my time with some of those.. they are slaves of western mind.. and they are inspired by Western minds not from the Prophet Muhammad SAW..on the other hand imran khan is inspired by our Prophet Muhammbad SAW and gives Prophet Muhammad SAW examples.. but i agree he says things that are not right but yaar... pray Allah SWT puts in imran khan heart inshAllah
All of us want to implement Quran and Sunnah, but seeing women in this show without any pardah and open mingling with opposite sex is creating a destructive force to our islamic values. Atleast Imran khan should have mentioned that he will be the torch bearer of islamic teachings in this era and will take help of Ulama to teach islamic values and laws to society which is getting away from islam day by day due to liberal agenda being pushed by media. But seeing women shout on this statement by Ik , i was disappointed to the core where are we going.

Brother in sweden, women are not extra happy because they can wear almost no clothes in the swedish society, and i believe this constant agenda of women liberation is a hoax. It was Islam which actually liberated women and these western women are a slave to latest fashions, make up items and etc. Believe u me, western women are not liberated and i have seen them being exploited under the name of women liberation in west. So, We need to get back to our Islamic values and be proud of that. Ik should have said something about that.

Also yes i agree that most probably IK will make an alliance with religious parties which would help drive some change towards islam in our society.
 

fasi2003

Senator (1k+ posts)
Haha. Brother no haterdism. Kamran ka program planted tha. Please watch Mubashar Luqman UCP program....... Thanks.
How decently students of Karachi have asked smart questions to Imran Khan...argument with no hate no anger (clap)

It shows clear difference of mentality of Karachi's youth and Lahore's youth (Ref. Kamran Shahid program)
 

fasi2003

Senator (1k+ posts)
Shoro paidu bhai kin kai sath matha laga rahe hoo.
179987-deen-islam-main-zabardasti-nahi.html

لَا إِكْرَاهَ فِي الدِّينِ ۖ قَدْ تَبَيَّنَ الرُّشْدُ مِنَ الْغَيِّ ۚ فَمَنْ يَكْفُرْ بِالطَّاغُوتِ وَيُؤْمِنْ بِاللَّهِ فَقَدِ اسْتَمْسَكَ بِالْعُرْوَةِ الْوُثْقَىٰ لَا انْفِصَامَ لَهَا ۗ وَاللَّهُ سَمِيعٌ عَلِيمٌ

اللَّهُ وَلِيُّ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا يُخْرِجُهُمْ مِنَ الظُّلُمَاتِ إِلَى النُّورِ ۖ وَالَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا أَوْلِيَاؤُهُمُ الطَّاغُوتُ يُخْرِجُونَهُمْ مِنَ النُّورِ إِلَى الظُّلُمَاتِ ۗ أُولَٰئِكَ أَصْحَابُ النَّارِ ۖ هُمْ فِيهَا خَالِدُونَ


دین (اسلام) میں زبردستی نہیں ہے ہدایت (صاف طور پر ظاہر اور) گمراہی سے الگ ہو چکی ہے تو جو شخص بتوں سے اعتقاد نہ رکھے اور اللہ پر ایمان لائے اس نے ایسی مضبوط رسی ہاتھ میں پکڑ لی ہے جو کبھی ٹوٹنے والی نہیں اور اللہ (سب کچھ) سنتا اور (سب کچھ) جانتا ہے

جو لوگ ایمان لائے ہیں ان کا دوست اللہ ہے کہ اُن کو اندھیرے سے نکال کر روشنی میں لے جاتا ہے اور جو کافر ہیں ان کے دوست شیطان ہیں کہ ان کو روشنی سے نکال کر اندھیرے میں لے جاتے ہیں یہی لوگ اہل دوزخ ہیں کہ اس میں ہمیشہ رہیں گے



Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth stands out clear from Error; whoever rejects Evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.

Allah is the Protector of those who have faith: from the depths of darkness, He will lead them forth into light. Of those who reject faith the patrons are the Evil Ones: from light they will lead them forth into the depths of darkness. They will be companions of the fire, to dwell therein (for ever).
 

apkadost

Voter (50+ posts)
salam

islam me jabr nahi magar ne ek musalman mard or aurat dono ke liye akhlaqi hudood qaaem ki hain mard ko bhi apni nigahon ki hifazat ka hukum diya hai or aurat ko bhi pardah kerne ka hukum diya hai. ab jo bhi in hudood se tajawuz kerta hai wo yaqeenan Allah ke qanoon ko torta hai islam ko
HAZRAT KHUDAIJATUL KUBRA (RAZIALLAHU TALA ANHA)
HAZRAT AYESHA (RAZIALLAHU TALA ANHA)
BAQI TAMAM UMMAHATUL MOMINEEN (RAZIALLAHU TALA ANHA)
SAHABIYAAT (RAZIALLAHU TALA ANHA)
HAZRAT FATIMATUZ ZAHARA (RAZIALLAHU TALA ANHA)

IN SAB SE BEHTAR KISI NE SAMJHA ??????????????? AB INKI DRESING KIA THI ??? IN KA LIBAS KIA THA ???? KIA BAGHER LIBAS YA KAM LIBAS SE HI INSAN TARAQQI KERTA HAI ?????? AJ IN TAMAM KAHAWATEEN KO DUNYA ME KON NAHI JANTA ......

AGAR KISI KO ZAATI TOR PER KAM KAPRE PEHENNE KA SHOQ HAI WO ZAROOR POORA KARE.... MAGAR QURAAN KI AYAAT KE TAQADDUS KA AHTERAM ZAROOR KIYA JAE DEEN ME JABR NAHI MAGAR DEEN KE AHKAMAAT SUNNATE RASOOL SALLAHU ALAIHI WASALLM OR KHAWATEEN ISLAAM EK MUSALMAN KI ZINDAGI KA AHEM HISSA HAI ... HAMARE MAZHAB MAIN HAR MOTABAR OR TAQADDUS WALI CHEEZ KO DHAANP KER KHAS PARDAH ME RAKHA JATA HAI .... AB KOI KHUD LIBAS SE BEZAR HAI TO WO USKI APNI MARZI....
 

apkadost

Voter (50+ posts)
bhai jo banda apni aurto ko pardy ka kehta hai bohot achi baat hai,,, atleast jism khol khol k dikhany wala kam galat ,,, har kisi ko chahye k apni aurto ko samjhaye,,,,, lekin,,,,,

1) jo 7 pardo me apni aurto ko rakh kr unki jayedaad khaye,,, shadi se pehly lerki se tamam jayedad lerko k nam karaye,,,, ya shadi k bad bhi agar aurat apny jayedad ka naam ly to even maikay jana bhi dushwar ho jata hai,,, then where goes islam?
2) zabardasti apny kisi bhanjy bhatejay se shadi krwa dety hain,,, then where goes islam?
3) aurat pe to sakhti jayez manta hu me k ghair mardo se na milay etc lekin jo ham mardo ne khud 4, 4 gf rakhi hoti hain,,, wo bhi to kisi ki maa behnain hoti hain,,,, then where goes islam?
4) mard khud ghar ya office me bhet k mazay le, aur apni bv ko bazar soda leny bhejty hain,,,, school bacho k mamlaat bhi ham log bv hawaly kr dety hain, wo he jati hai teachers etc se baat krti hai,,, then where goes islam?

Many many other issues which we ignore,,,, qu k waha mardo ko ungli uthte hai,,,,, bas apni matlab ki baat manwao,,, baqi bato me islam yad ajata hai


1- jo log kisi ka bhi maal khate hain wo zulm kerte hain aap pehle islam me aurat ke huqooq parhiye to sahi apko maloom ho ye islam me nahi ke aurat ke sath esa kiya jae ye kisi bhi mard or aurat ka zati amal ho sakta hai. Islam to hukum deta hai ke shohar apni biwi ke maan baap behen bhai ko apni maan baap behen bhai samjhe isi tarha biwi ko.

2- islam ne aurat or mard ko bilkul ijazat hai wo apni pasand se shadi ker sakte hain magar date mar ker nahi ye problem un chacha chachi mama mami ka hai jo zabardasti kerte hain

3- ji aap aurat per sakhti ka maan sakte hain magar islam ijazat nahi deta ye or bat hai ke aap islami qanoon ko sakhti mante hain. Jo 4,4 gf rakhi hain apko sochna chahiye apki bhi behen beti hain or un gf ko bhi jo apni izat dao per laga ker ghar se nikalti hain islam me girl frnd rakhne ki kahin per ijazat nahi

4- ji tamam mard ese nahi hote jo ghar or office me maze kerte hain or biwi ko apni khadim bana ker rakhte hain jo log esa kerte hain wo ghalat kerte hain. Biwi or shohar dono ko apni zimadari ka pata hona chahiye biwi pardeh me har jaez kaam ker sakti hai agar wo nahi kerti to shohar uska haath bata sakte hain. Ye hamare islam ki taleemat hain.

Mere bhai islam deen-e-fitrat hai means natural religion agar koi islam qabool na bhi kare magar islam ki dunyawi cheezon per amal ker le to bhi uski zindgi me bohot si problem solve ho jati hain.... Islam per itni mushkilat ke bawjood aj dunya specially america europe me islam hi wahid mazhab hai jo tezi se phail raha hai.. Agar islam .. Itna hi kamzor deen hota .... To wo american or european sab kuch ker ke .... Dekh chuke hain. ... Lihaza .... Ye muasharti, samaji problems hain jis din islam ko sache dil se maaan liye us din .... Ye tamam problem solve ho jaenge....

Duaon me yad rakhiye ga

allah hafiz

 

SalmanKhanN

MPA (400+ posts)
bhai dont waste ur time with some people here.. some of the people are rude and arrogant and talk without knowledge.. they are scholars in their own world.. so i suggest.. dont spend time with some fools here inshAllah
All of us want to implement Quran and Sunnah, but seeing women in this show without any pardah and open mingling with opposite sex is creating a destructive force to our islamic values. Atleast Imran khan should have mentioned that he will be the torch bearer of islamic teachings in this era and will take help of Ulama to teach islamic values and laws to society which is getting away from islam day by day due to liberal agenda being pushed by media. But seeing women shout on this statement by Ik , i was disappointed to the core where are we going.

Brother in sweden, women are not extra happy because they can wear almost no clothes in the swedish society, and i believe this constant agenda of women liberation is a hoax. It was Islam which actually liberated women and these western women are a slave to latest fashions, make up items and etc. Believe u me, western women are not liberated and i have seen them being exploited under the name of women liberation in west. So, We need to get back to our Islamic values and be proud of that. Ik should have said something about that.

Also yes i agree that most probably IK will make an alliance with religious parties which would help drive some change towards islam in our society.
 

AhsanJavaid

New Member
Zabardast
Islam main jabar nahin hai toh
Mulk main sharab Baghair license openly sale out honi chahyay.
X rated channels should be opened up which display desi porn.
Homosexuality should not be a crime.
Prostitution should be legalized.

What the hell r u guys talking about?

It is a governments responsibility to block porn sites at an Internet gateway.
It is a governments responsibility to provide honorable work to sex workers.
It is a governments job to have a strict censor board for tv and cinema.
It is a governments job to provide education regarding a good dress code that is scripted in Islam with public penetration not through danda.

I must say host nay sawal hi ghalat poochaa.
He should have asked Kai imran aap hamari ikhlaaqi iqdaar kaisay bachaain gai.
Whatever women were wearing in this show was a direct result of wqhat they see everyday on media. If one really needs to change that the media needs to be transformed. Ab aap ais ko jabar samjhain ya whatever but it must become. Danda Is not the solution here and affects come in slowly. But if you argue it's a personal matter, my friends u r living in an Islamic republic not in turkey.wake up...
 

IhsanIlahi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
1- jo log kisi ka bhi maal khate hain wo zulm kerte hain aap pehle islam me aurat ke huqooq parhiye to sahi apko maloom ho ye islam me nahi ke aurat ke sath esa kiya jae ye kisi bhi mard or aurat ka zati amal ho sakta hai. Islam to hukum deta hai ke shohar apni biwi ke maan baap behen bhai ko apni maan baap behen bhai samjhe isi tarha biwi ko.

2- islam ne aurat or mard ko bilkul ijazat hai wo apni pasand se shadi ker sakte hain magar date mar ker nahi ye problem un chacha chachi mama mami ka hai jo zabardasti kerte hain

3- ji aap aurat per sakhti ka maan sakte hain magar islam ijazat nahi deta ye or bat hai ke aap islami qanoon ko sakhti mante hain. Jo 4,4 gf rakhi hain apko sochna chahiye apki bhi behen beti hain or un gf ko bhi jo apni izat dao per laga ker ghar se nikalti hain islam me girl frnd rakhne ki kahin per ijazat nahi

4- ji tamam mard ese nahi hote jo ghar or office me maze kerte hain or biwi ko apni khadim bana ker rakhte hain jo log esa kerte hain wo ghalat kerte hain. Biwi or shohar dono ko apni zimadari ka pata hona chahiye biwi pardeh me har jaez kaam ker sakti hai agar wo nahi kerti to shohar uska haath bata sakte hain. Ye hamare islam ki taleemat hain.

Mere bhai islam deen-e-fitrat hai means natural religion agar koi islam qabool na bhi kare magar islam ki dunyawi cheezon per amal ker le to bhi uski zindgi me bohot si problem solve ho jati hain.... Islam per itni mushkilat ke bawjood aj dunya specially america europe me islam hi wahid mazhab hai jo tezi se phail raha hai.. Agar islam .. Itna hi kamzor deen hota .... To wo american or european sab kuch ker ke .... Dekh chuke hain. ... Lihaza .... Ye muasharti, samaji problems hain jis din islam ko sache dil se maaan liye us din .... Ye tamam problem solve ho jaenge....

Duaon me yad rakhiye ga

allah hafiz


ap ne bhi wahi kaha jo mene kaha tha k ye sab kuch jo hota hai galat aur islam nahi manta sab,,,, lekin afsoos k ho to yehi raha hai,,,,,
 
meray bhai aap is baat ko positive angle se bhi dekh saktay hain, woh is tara he ho sakta hai IK ki baat sun kar khwateen ko kuch sharam aa jaay


Tehreek-e-Insaf auraton k kapron main mudakhlat nahin kare ge.

IK ne apni asli shakal dikha de...


IK agar tum Pakistan ko Islami falahi riyasat banana chahite ho to Islami nizam bhi lana pare gaa...
 

InsafianPTI

Minister (2k+ posts)
yes it is the best option for him I think to make alliance with religious parties, but instead of creating controvercies he should built up concensus and then make appropriate laws, regarding your first two paragraphs our civil society need to be strong enough and bring a movement in society, it is wrong to expect him or anyone else to impose it on people.

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All of us want to implement Quran and Sunnah, but seeing women in this show without any pardah and open mingling with opposite sex is creating a destructive force to our islamic values. Atleast Imran khan should have mentioned that he will be the torch bearer of islamic teachings in this era and will take help of Ulama to teach islamic values and laws to society which is getting away from islam day by day due to liberal agenda being pushed by media. But seeing women shout on this statement by Ik , i was disappointed to the core where are we going.

Brother in sweden, women are not extra happy because they can wear almost no clothes in the swedish society, and i believe this constant agenda of women liberation is a hoax. It was Islam which actually liberated women and these western women are a slave to latest fashions, make up items and etc. Believe u me, western women are not liberated and i have seen them being exploited under the name of women liberation in west. So, We need to get back to our Islamic values and be proud of that. Ik should have said something about that.

Also yes i agree that most probably IK will make an alliance with religious parties which would help drive some change towards islam in our society.
 

InsafianPTI

Minister (2k+ posts)
Zabardast
Islam main jabar nahin hai toh
Mulk main sharab Baghair license openly sale out honi chahyay.
X rated channels should be opened up which display desi porn.
Homosexuality should not be a crime.
Prostitution should be legalized.

QUOTE]

no these things shouldn't be allowed and gov should take appropriate measures, even in west there are rules and regulations about them so why can't we have our own rules. I don't think majority of people in pakistan would have any problem with your views in these particular issues.
not these but there are other things that taliban and saudi gov have done which are controvercial even within islamic world, we should be very careful about that.
 

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