There is no Imam Mahdi (A.S.) (Na-Auoozubillah) - Javed Ahmad GHAMIDI The King of LIARS
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w-a-n-t-e-d-
Minister (2k+ posts)
Bhai English Scholers Ilm-e-Hadith Pay Bilkul bhi malomaat nahi rakhtay na inko kise hadith say
masail talash karna attay hain ....
yeh qabl-e-tars log hain
masail talash karna attay hain ....
yeh qabl-e-tars log hain
Assalam o Alaikum,
Read the following books just to recognize how great lier this man ''Ghamidi'' is
Read the following books just to recognize how great lier this man ''Ghamidi'' is
mrbaig
Senator (1k+ posts)
Bangash
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
شائد اپ درست کہ رہے ہوں یا شائد نہیں کسی کو جھوٹا ثابت کرنے کے لیے صرف جھوٹ جھوٹ کہنا کافی نہیں
adnan_younus
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
if u prove him wrong... then speak.. i disagree with many of his views but if he says imam mehdi name is not present in quran and in sahih hadith then prove him wrong..... many ppl like this story as a fantasy and wait for his arrival while not looking at teh basic thingis of islam.. i.e. pray 5 times
adnan_younus
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: ''Even Contemporary Non-Muslims Are Not Kafir'', Says A Jahil Intellectual. Must Watch & Enjoy The Comedy hahahahahaha!!!
i 100% agree with him...
i 100% agree with him...
khawaja555
Councller (250+ posts)
ye baat is forum pe boht se log nahin samajte ..............jo baat kisi ke mizaj ke khilaf ho us ko jhooti baat kehte hain:smashfreakB:
Allama Iqbal, Maulana Ubaidullah Sindhi AND I think Ibn e Khuldun also did not believe on Mahdi AND Esa's arrival. abb inn ko bhi galian do gay ???? Pakistan kee qom mulla keee baat par andha aitmaad karti hai aur QURAN ko almost completely ignore kar daity hai... agar kisi alim ka mukhtalif view hai tu bhai reasons kee base par ho sakta hai .... kia galian dainay walon ko Allah nay diloun ka haal jannay kee quwwat bakhsh dee hai jo kisi humble scholar kee niyat ka bhi batanay lagtay hain.????
Khuda ka khouf karo yar saray !!!!!!!
Khuda ka khouf karo yar saray !!!!!!!
indigo
Siasat.pk - Blogger
many many respect for you...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th3Kx914tqs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Ghamidi is lying when he says no where in sahih hadith it is mentined about the arrival of Imam Mahdi when indeed it is mentined in Shih Muslim. Watch the above video for refernce and please stop following someone blindly on sensative issues. As a Muslim it is our responsibility to research on such topic and not follow him blindly. If he is saying its not mentioned in any of the sahih Hadith then do a reaserch on youtube and listen to what other scholars has to say and if a scholar mention a Hadith which is sahih go and check that hadith your self. Dont let anyone misguide you because you are lazy and dont have the energy to research the sahih Ahadith books.
Ghamidi is lying when he says no where in sahih hadith it is mentined about the arrival of Imam Mahdi when indeed it is mentined in Shih Muslim. Watch the above video for refernce and please stop following someone blindly on sensative issues. As a Muslim it is our responsibility to research on such topic and not follow him blindly. If he is saying its not mentioned in any of the sahih Hadith then do a reaserch on youtube and listen to what other scholars has to say and if a scholar mention a Hadith which is sahih go and check that hadith your self. Dont let anyone misguide you because you are lazy and dont have the energy to research the sahih Ahadith books.
messam
MPA (400+ posts)
With all due respect, this is lie.....
ALLAMA IQBAL never denied in his writing of no believing IMAM MEHDI (AS)... If you say he did not believed prove it through references...
What is the status of Ibn-e-Khaldoon in Islam anyway ?? (Mufti, Aalim, Muslim scholar, Muslim Researcher., Mujtahid, etc etc )??
Maulana Ubaid Ullah Sindhi was a controversial figure.... (Born Sikh, converted to Muslim, Studied in Deoband, worked as political activist, and even before deoband scholars he is controversial.)..
Allama Iqbal Can not be.. I give you challenge.. You Prove ALLAMA IQBAL did not believed on Syedna Iman MEhdi (AS) I will also start believing this and will take it as a fact... (I challenge openly to all)... For references of Syedna Imam Mehdi AS Coming see my next post..
Regards
messam
MPA (400+ posts)
MESSAGE FOR BANGASH, INDIGO, Adnaa APML, and KHAAJA 5555 saab....
THE AHADEETH REFER TO HADHRAT ALI RADI ALLAH, ABDULLAH BIN MASAOOD RADI ALLAH, ABU HURAIRA, HADHRAT UMME SALMAH RADIA ALLAH , HADHRAT ABU SAEED KHUDRI RADI ALLAH... (TELL ME WHICH ONE OF THEM YOU WILL DOUBT)....????? If there Sanad in the Hadeeth make the Hadeeth a ZAEEF HAdeeth, then gimmmmeeeeeeeee breakkkkkk....
THEY ARE QUOTED FROM ALL THE SAHAHE SITTA BOOOK INSHA ALLAH......Which one you will deny..
The following are the collection of Sahih (authentic) Hadith regarding Mahdi.
Hadhrat Abdullah bin Mas'ood(RA) reports from the Prophet(SAW), who said:
The world will not come to pass until a man from among my family, whose name will be my name, rules over the Arabs.
(Tirmidhi Sahih, Vol. 9, P. 74; Abu Dawud, Sahih, Vol. 5, P. 207; also narrated by Ali b. Abi Talib, Abu Sa'id, Umm Salma, Abu Hurayra)
The Prophet(SAW) said:
Allah will bring out from concealment al-Mahdi from my family and just before the day of Judgment; even if only one day were to remain in the life of the world, and he will spread on this earth justice and equity and will eradicate tyranny and oppression.
(Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, Vol. 1, P. 99)
Hadhrat Ali(RA) narrates that Rasulullah(SAW) said:
Even if only a day remains for Qiyamah to come, yet Allah will surely send a man from my family who will fill this world with such justice and fairness, just as it initially was filled with oppression.
(Abu Dawood)
Ali b. Abi Talib(RA) has related a tradition from the Prophet(SAW) who informed him:
The promised Mahdi will be among my family. God will make the provisions for his emergence within a single night.
(Ibn Majah, Sahih, Vol. 2, P. 519)
Hazrat Umme Salmah(RA), Prophet's wife, narrates that she heard the Prophet(SAW) say:
The promised Mahdi will be among my progeny, among the descendants of Fatima.
(Abu Dawud, Sahih, Vol. 2, P. 207; Ibn Majah, Sahih, Vol. 2, P. 519)
Rasulullah(SAW) announced:
The Mahdi will be of my family, of the descendants of Fatima (the Prophet's daughter).
(Sunan Ibn Majah, Vol. 2, Tradition No. 4086)
The Prophet(SAW) taught:
Al-Mahdi is one of us, the members of the household (Ahlul-Bayt).
(Sunan Ibn Majah, Vol. 2, Tradition No. 4085)
Abu Sa'id al-Khudari(RA) narrated that the Prophet(SAW) said:
Our Mahdi will have a broad forehead and a pointed (prominent) nose. He will fill the earth with justice as it is filled with injustice and tyranny. He will rule for seven years.
(Abu Dawud, Sahih, Vol. 2, p. 208; Fusul al-muhimma, p. 275)
Hadhrat Abu Saeed Khudri(RA) relates that Rasulullah(SAW) said:
Al Mahdi will be from my progeny. His forehead will be broad and his nose will be high. He will fill the world with justice and fairness at a time when the world will be filled with oppression. He will rule for seven years.
Hadhrat Umme Salmah(RA) narrates that Rasulullah(SAW) said:
After the death of a Ruler there will be some dispute between the people. At that time a citizen of Madina will flee (from Madina) and go to Makkah. While in Makkah, certain people will approach him between Hajrul Aswad and Maqaame Ibraheem, and forcefully pledge their allegiance to him.
Thereafter a huge army will proceed from Syria to attack him but when they will be at Baida, which is between Makkah and Madina, they will be swallowed into the ground.
On seeing this, the Abdaals of Shaam as well as large numbers of people from Iraq will come to him and pledge their allegiance to him. Then a person from the Quraish, whose uncle will be from the Bani Kalb tribe will send an army to attack him, only to be overpowered, by the will of Allah. This (defeated) army will be that of the Bani Kalb. Unfortunate indeed is he who does not receive a share from the booty of the Kalb. This person (Imam Mahdi) will distribute the spoils of war after the battle. He will lead the people according to the Sunnat and during his reign Islam will spread throughout the world. He will remain till seven years (since his emergence). He will pass away and the Muslims will perform his Janazah salaat.
(Abu Dawood)
The holy Prophet(SAW) said:
A group of my Ummah will fight for the truth until near the day of judgment when Jesus, the son of Marry, will descend, and the leader of them will ask him to lead the prayer, but Jesus declines, saying: "No, Verily, among you Allah has made leaders for others and He has bestowed his bounty upon them.
(Sahih Muslim)
It is reported from Abu Hurayra(RA) that the Prophet(SAW) said:
What will be your reaction when the son of Mary (Jesus) descends and your Imam is from among yourselves?
(Sahih Muslim, bab nuzul 'isa, Vol. 2; Sahih Bukhari, kitab bad' al-khalq wa nuzul 'isa, Vol. 4)
The holy Prophet(SAW) said:
What would be your situation if the Son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends upon you and your Imam is from among you?
(Bukhari, kitabul-Anbiya, Chapter Nuzul Isa bin Maryam)
THE AHADEETH REFER TO HADHRAT ALI RADI ALLAH, ABDULLAH BIN MASAOOD RADI ALLAH, ABU HURAIRA, HADHRAT UMME SALMAH RADIA ALLAH , HADHRAT ABU SAEED KHUDRI RADI ALLAH... (TELL ME WHICH ONE OF THEM YOU WILL DOUBT)....????? If there Sanad in the Hadeeth make the Hadeeth a ZAEEF HAdeeth, then gimmmmeeeeeeeee breakkkkkk....
THEY ARE QUOTED FROM ALL THE SAHAHE SITTA BOOOK INSHA ALLAH......Which one you will deny..
The following are the collection of Sahih (authentic) Hadith regarding Mahdi.
Hadhrat Abdullah bin Mas'ood(RA) reports from the Prophet(SAW), who said:
The world will not come to pass until a man from among my family, whose name will be my name, rules over the Arabs.
(Tirmidhi Sahih, Vol. 9, P. 74; Abu Dawud, Sahih, Vol. 5, P. 207; also narrated by Ali b. Abi Talib, Abu Sa'id, Umm Salma, Abu Hurayra)
The Prophet(SAW) said:
Allah will bring out from concealment al-Mahdi from my family and just before the day of Judgment; even if only one day were to remain in the life of the world, and he will spread on this earth justice and equity and will eradicate tyranny and oppression.
(Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, Vol. 1, P. 99)
Hadhrat Ali(RA) narrates that Rasulullah(SAW) said:
Even if only a day remains for Qiyamah to come, yet Allah will surely send a man from my family who will fill this world with such justice and fairness, just as it initially was filled with oppression.
(Abu Dawood)
Ali b. Abi Talib(RA) has related a tradition from the Prophet(SAW) who informed him:
The promised Mahdi will be among my family. God will make the provisions for his emergence within a single night.
(Ibn Majah, Sahih, Vol. 2, P. 519)
Hazrat Umme Salmah(RA), Prophet's wife, narrates that she heard the Prophet(SAW) say:
The promised Mahdi will be among my progeny, among the descendants of Fatima.
(Abu Dawud, Sahih, Vol. 2, P. 207; Ibn Majah, Sahih, Vol. 2, P. 519)
Rasulullah(SAW) announced:
The Mahdi will be of my family, of the descendants of Fatima (the Prophet's daughter).
(Sunan Ibn Majah, Vol. 2, Tradition No. 4086)
The Prophet(SAW) taught:
Al-Mahdi is one of us, the members of the household (Ahlul-Bayt).
(Sunan Ibn Majah, Vol. 2, Tradition No. 4085)
Abu Sa'id al-Khudari(RA) narrated that the Prophet(SAW) said:
Our Mahdi will have a broad forehead and a pointed (prominent) nose. He will fill the earth with justice as it is filled with injustice and tyranny. He will rule for seven years.
(Abu Dawud, Sahih, Vol. 2, p. 208; Fusul al-muhimma, p. 275)
Hadhrat Abu Saeed Khudri(RA) relates that Rasulullah(SAW) said:
Al Mahdi will be from my progeny. His forehead will be broad and his nose will be high. He will fill the world with justice and fairness at a time when the world will be filled with oppression. He will rule for seven years.
Hadhrat Umme Salmah(RA) narrates that Rasulullah(SAW) said:
After the death of a Ruler there will be some dispute between the people. At that time a citizen of Madina will flee (from Madina) and go to Makkah. While in Makkah, certain people will approach him between Hajrul Aswad and Maqaame Ibraheem, and forcefully pledge their allegiance to him.
Thereafter a huge army will proceed from Syria to attack him but when they will be at Baida, which is between Makkah and Madina, they will be swallowed into the ground.
On seeing this, the Abdaals of Shaam as well as large numbers of people from Iraq will come to him and pledge their allegiance to him. Then a person from the Quraish, whose uncle will be from the Bani Kalb tribe will send an army to attack him, only to be overpowered, by the will of Allah. This (defeated) army will be that of the Bani Kalb. Unfortunate indeed is he who does not receive a share from the booty of the Kalb. This person (Imam Mahdi) will distribute the spoils of war after the battle. He will lead the people according to the Sunnat and during his reign Islam will spread throughout the world. He will remain till seven years (since his emergence). He will pass away and the Muslims will perform his Janazah salaat.
(Abu Dawood)
The holy Prophet(SAW) said:
A group of my Ummah will fight for the truth until near the day of judgment when Jesus, the son of Marry, will descend, and the leader of them will ask him to lead the prayer, but Jesus declines, saying: "No, Verily, among you Allah has made leaders for others and He has bestowed his bounty upon them.
(Sahih Muslim)
It is reported from Abu Hurayra(RA) that the Prophet(SAW) said:
What will be your reaction when the son of Mary (Jesus) descends and your Imam is from among yourselves?
(Sahih Muslim, bab nuzul 'isa, Vol. 2; Sahih Bukhari, kitab bad' al-khalq wa nuzul 'isa, Vol. 4)
The holy Prophet(SAW) said:
What would be your situation if the Son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends upon you and your Imam is from among you?
(Bukhari, kitabul-Anbiya, Chapter Nuzul Isa bin Maryam)
Allama Iqbal didn't believe in Imam Mahdi????? Are you serious? Mate, you don't know anything then. Ibn e Khuldun was a historian of lesser credibility as in his muqaddimah, he has clearly stated that he has quoted all that he had heard without verifying it. Sindhi was no freedom fighter as well, lets not pull more history into it or there would be chapters of what he actually did to Muslims.
Good one mate. The reason behind negating Imam's A.S existence is to negate the reason for jihad as ghamdi clearly said that there were requirements and status of jihad that was analysed by Muhammad pbuh and after visaal, who has the authority to ascertain the same reasons and status. This happens when a person starts using more of intellect and relies on it than being humble and seeking guidance from Allah.
