angryoldman
Minister (2k+ posts)
Men in Black II
The Next Generations of Politicians: Sons and daughters
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shiningstar
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: kiya pakistan 2012 main siasi family mafias se azad ho jae gaa?
Those who have served english people, they are also part of siasi mafia, and successors of those mafias are vice chairman of PTI as a result of one hour activity.
Most accurately I should say he was vice-chairman before being part of PTI.
dont worry about us.. PMLN has got most talented and PMLN made team.
Those who have served english people, they are also part of siasi mafia, and successors of those mafias are vice chairman of PTI as a result of one hour activity.
Most accurately I should say he was vice-chairman before being part of PTI.
Re: kiya pakistan 2012 main siasi family mafias se azad ho jae gaa?
If he was so corrupt then why nawaz was trying to woo him.. Doosron ko nasihat khud mian fasihat..
Dont worry inshallah tsunami will destroy PMLN and PPP and all other looters of this country in one go.
Wait and watch..
If he was so corrupt then why nawaz was trying to woo him.. Doosron ko nasihat khud mian fasihat..
Dont worry inshallah tsunami will destroy PMLN and PPP and all other looters of this country in one go.
Wait and watch..
shiningstar
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: kiya pakistan 2012 main siasi family mafias se azad ho jae gaa?
Successor of servents of English people aap ko Mubarak ho.........who have bargained for ce-chairman ship before joining PTI.
Tsunami from people like this aap ko mubarak ho.........one George Sikandar Zaman is waiting for sunami in Haripur.........
Man there was no place for him like vice-chairman in PMLN..
Successor of servents of English people aap ko Mubarak ho.........who have bargained for ce-chairman ship before joining PTI.
Tsunami from people like this aap ko mubarak ho.........one George Sikandar Zaman is waiting for sunami in Haripur.........
آپکے جذبات قابل قدر ہیں مگر موصوفہ کے بارے میں آپکی معلومات ناکافی ہیں اتنی بالی سی عمریہ میں ہی محترمہ جارج کولونی جیسے خرانٹ بھگتا چکی ہیں۔پارٹی میمبر تو نہیں البتہ افیئرانکا خوب چلے گا عمران خان کے ساتھ کیونکہ اس لحاظ سے دونوں نہلے پہ دہلہ ہیں
Re: kiya pakistan 2012 main siasi family mafias se azad ho jae gaa?
Inshallah ye tsunami pehly barey choron ki khabar le ga baad main chote choron ki baari...
Inshallah ye tsunami pehly barey choron ki khabar le ga baad main chote choron ki baari...
shiningstar
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: kiya pakistan 2012 main siasi family mafias se azad ho jae gaa?
INSHALLAH.........yeah Shah Mehmood Qureshi aur george sikandar zaman jaisay siasi mafia k sath nai aa sakta....
BuTurabi
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Aap Ko Etraaz Baali Umeryya Pe Hai, George Clooney Pe, Uss Ke Khraant Hony Pe, Bhugtany Pe, Ya Khud George Clooney Na Hony Pe...LoL
Waisy one of my journalist friend once told me all that was propaganda by Zardari to discredit "Real Bhuttos".... Although she's also not "Mary" or "Maryam" (Shareef Wali Nahi Eeesa A.S Wali)
مجھے اعتراض کسی بات پر بھی نھیں ہے میں تو اس نسل در نسل چلنے والی غلامی کے خلاف ہوں سیاست دانوں کی دوسری نسل اور بھٹو خاندان کی تیسری نسل حکمرانی کے خواب دیکھ رہی ہے۔اور ہم لوگ موروثی غلاموں کی طرح انہی خاندانوں کے راگ الاپتے رہتے ہیں۔آج پاکستان کی جو حالت ہے اس کے ذمے دار یہی دو چار خاندان ہیں۔جن کو ہم نے نعوذ بہ الله نبیوں کا درجہ دے رکھا ہے۔
حضرت بی بی مریم علیہ سلام کا حوالہ آپ نے بہت غلط دیا۔الله ہم سب کو معاف کرے۔ اور اپنے جذبات پر قابو پانے کی توفیق عطا فرمائے آمین
حضرت بی بی مریم علیہ سلام کا حوالہ آپ نے بہت غلط دیا۔الله ہم سب کو معاف کرے۔ اور اپنے جذبات پر قابو پانے کی توفیق عطا فرمائے آمین
BuTurabi
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
100% Agree, I was just kidding, no hard feeling at all.
NauzBilla Touheen Qatan Maqsad Nahi, BiBi Maryam A.S Ki Taqdees Tashbeehan Bhi Dena Shaied Munaasab Nahi Tha, Allah Maaf Farmaei.
By the way how do you type Urdu Fonts?
Naive Politician born to rule only!
The word "naive" means innocent or natural. It is a french word and is spelled nave or naf. But has now more usual spelling in english naive.The word politics stems from the greek word Πολιτικά (politika). It is derivedfrom two words πολίτης (polites) means citizen and from the word πόλις (polis) which means city. It means the way in which city and citizen behaves or work. In the middle french era the word politique was addopted from theLatin word politicus and it was latinisation of the greek word πολιτικός (politikos). It means amongst others "of, for, or relating to citizens, civil, civic, or belonging to the state.The english translation of the Aristotles book "affairs of the city in mid of 15[SUP]th[/SUP] century from Latinized "Polettiques" paved the way to induct word "politics" in middele english around 1520. But singular world politic first arrived in english 1430 from middle French time.Aristotle's had presented a model on governing and governments. Besides Aristotle had classified state into: Monarchies (monrches, μονάρχης from mnos, μόνος, "one/singular," and rchon, aρχων, "leader/ruler/chief", which referr to a single, at least nominally absolute ruler), Aristocracies (aριστοκρατία aristokrata, from aριστος aristos "excellent," and κράτος kratos "power", is a form of government in which a few elite citizens rule), timocracies, democracies, oligarchies, and tyrannies, which was based on political experiencies.There are many political systems to run the states or to chain the people, which may be: Monarchy (by one person): which are one of the oldest political systems known, developing from tribal structure with one person the absolute ruler. On the otherhand Democracy or Parliamentary democracy (by the popular vote through parliament), Meritocracy (by best), Technocracy (by experts), and Republic (by non-monarch).Sultanate (by one person and Allah) an Islamic political structure combining aspects of monarchy and theocracy. But Theocracy (by God and his representatives) and other religions too. It can also force to convert other non-religious person. Feudalism (ruled by lord/king), Fascism (by a leader), Oligarchy (by a few), Military government (run by military), Aristocracy (by nobles), Plutocracy (by money), Communism (ruled by workers), and Socialism (run by equality).All poltical systems depends upon the needs, resources, and management. However, in all other countries, poltical parties present a comprehensive plan for the best of their nation and community. Moreover, the Political Representative in the Assemblies of the Pakistan consider themselves beyound any law. They think that no body has right to question them. It is because the 1973 constitution had provided them extra judical rights. Their beaviour since last three decades is irresponsible in all speheres of life. They can exercise any powers.The politcal appointments in all state governed department like Banks, Communication, Transport: Railway, Air, Ship, Education, Steel and other Mills are glaring examples. It results into the detiorting state of all institutions. On 15.12.2011 a representative of PPP Fozia Wahab has answered to a question in cross-fire TV-show that every government places the head of intstitutes or at the key position the most loyal persons of the party. Thus with a clear objective to serve the personal goals rather than public. The political appointties do not take care of any rules and follow only the ruling elites. Mr. Musharaf had also annouced in an interview that all vaccancies must be filled on merit. But Sheikh Rashid, who was at that time information Minister was against it. He had argued that if it was done so. Then it would be political sucide for all politicians. He emphasized that if they do not interfere in offering jobs to the people. Then Public may not cast vote for them. Thus, all memebers were on this issue together.On the other hand, during second Nawaz regime, he had directed aparently to all departemnts that they must select the persons on merit. There were few people, who were selected as clerk in audit for Military as well in district account offices and in other departments on merit. They had tried to serve fairly but the system had not allowed them to continue. It also happened first time in the history that the bank of Punjab and Banking council of Pakistan had conducted examination openly for the recruitments. It had worked only for short period. The ruling people strengthen hands of each other and consider themself to be beyound any jurisdiction and law. This is evident from the statement of JUI head Mulana Fazl on 16.12.2011 to the Dunnya TV that issues relating to the vice or cirmes of the Parlimentarian must not be discussed or trialed out side the Assembly. He has also threatended like other ruling people the collapse of system. Hence, one can raise the question, why is it so crucial that a handful apportunists in Assemblies could play with the aspiration of the whole nation. Why they sell National Security at the cost of their power hunger and desire to stick to chairs? Why parties are not grown up and always try to protect unfair, economically, and administrativly corrupt leaders? Is there no one among the partites, who are fair, truthful and loyal to the state.The Prime Minister in his Senate speech, and other key ruling allies are threatning directly or partially the division of Pakistan into small parts like fall of Dhaka Bangladesh in 1971. Is this not a treason with integraty and soladarity with state? Is there corruption problem or security problem?.There is always mismanagement examples in the centre and provencial level. It is because the greedy Ministers are interested only to make mony either through appointments or commissions or kick backs in governmental tenders and contracts. They are interested for their chairs not for the welfare of public. There is famous saying of the Muhammad (PBUH) that whether change your name or your deeds. If someone, who is hungry and has nothing to eat. Then his theft would not be considered a crime or sinn. But the the rulling families have more than enough money by hook and crook. If political leader were invloved in corruption or kickbacks in the past; have they now changed their habits during last three or four years? The answer is definitly not! Why are they still involved in looting the natinal assets and people have to suffer? An example is that a solar-park project, which was sponsered by a US company in south punjab in 2010. The contractor from US had meeting in capital with the officials. The official staf of US Eembassy was also assisting the contracting company to deal with Pak. Adminstration. They had landed in the Presidency and Mr. President had informed them that he did not involve himself directly for these matters but his sisiter is responsible for those matters. The project was explained to her and others. They had praised the projects good out come in south punjab. However, there was no direct and indirect benefit for them. Therefore, the companys negotiation person had asked Presidentsister bank account; then an agreed amount ranging 100-200 Million US$ was immediately transfered as commission or kickback for this approvel.
The team now heads to Lahore so that they may acquire the land. The Governor Punjab, Chief Minister and other advisors had meeting with company in the presence of US-Embayssy Representative. The company had clarified that no commission would be paid to any person or department in Punajab. They have to offer the states land for the proposed project. This story was told by the companys spokesman directly to us in seminar cum meeting in Lahore.Now if a company has paid approximately 20% of the investment for nothing in a project. It is clear that company is interested to earn her whole investment at first. Therefore, much higher price per production unit of electricity or a price hike is always there. This result into many extra charges in electricity bills like fuel, misc.adjustment, TV and other sur-charges. Despite, the Memorandum is a letter between two parties with an offical consent. Letus suppose that it has been sent through some ones consent from Islambad. A few messages were posted through Black Berry Server(BBS). Now a days the modern Mobile telephone has very secure communication technique. The transmitted message has always the header senders name, account name, time, date and communication identity too). A copy of all comunicated messages has been always kept at the main Server(computer). It has also a backup for all trafics. However, it is very trivial for a system Administrator to retrive even deleted private customer messages from the main server. It may also true that a Black-Barry SIM (telephone identity) works only with a unique set, it must be verified by service provider. There might be no chance of tampering of the message. In principle, the communication would be safe and sound. In conclusion, there might be many more missmanagement, commissions and plundering of money in the system. No politician in the treasuray benches is interested to address this problem. But they are always hand in hand to protect their unqualified friends and hires.The nave or clever members are very good in accusing each other. They always devise ways to humilate others and also pasify the true information into illusion. It may be the basic requirement to be a politician that he or she must always tell a lie, ape and apease their masters and send people to hell into stone age life. Thus, commission mafia in politics as well as in the Bureucracy is responsible for the expansive life utilties and they drag collectively the degradation of the country. They have money which is earned at the sacrifices of common and helpless people.Is there any one who will take care of the majority of the nations suffering? The answer seems to be unclear, there is lack of motivation among or public issues are not important. But Memo issue is more critical for ruling party; it may hurt the fate of one person or all ministers. That is why there is big cry from all corners of rulling allies to protect som one by force. No one is beyond the law; even Parliment or you pave the way for Talibans.
The word "naive" means innocent or natural. It is a french word and is spelled nave or naf. But has now more usual spelling in english naive.The word politics stems from the greek word Πολιτικά (politika). It is derivedfrom two words πολίτης (polites) means citizen and from the word πόλις (polis) which means city. It means the way in which city and citizen behaves or work. In the middle french era the word politique was addopted from theLatin word politicus and it was latinisation of the greek word πολιτικός (politikos). It means amongst others "of, for, or relating to citizens, civil, civic, or belonging to the state.The english translation of the Aristotles book "affairs of the city in mid of 15[SUP]th[/SUP] century from Latinized "Polettiques" paved the way to induct word "politics" in middele english around 1520. But singular world politic first arrived in english 1430 from middle French time.Aristotle's had presented a model on governing and governments. Besides Aristotle had classified state into: Monarchies (monrches, μονάρχης from mnos, μόνος, "one/singular," and rchon, aρχων, "leader/ruler/chief", which referr to a single, at least nominally absolute ruler), Aristocracies (aριστοκρατία aristokrata, from aριστος aristos "excellent," and κράτος kratos "power", is a form of government in which a few elite citizens rule), timocracies, democracies, oligarchies, and tyrannies, which was based on political experiencies.There are many political systems to run the states or to chain the people, which may be: Monarchy (by one person): which are one of the oldest political systems known, developing from tribal structure with one person the absolute ruler. On the otherhand Democracy or Parliamentary democracy (by the popular vote through parliament), Meritocracy (by best), Technocracy (by experts), and Republic (by non-monarch).Sultanate (by one person and Allah) an Islamic political structure combining aspects of monarchy and theocracy. But Theocracy (by God and his representatives) and other religions too. It can also force to convert other non-religious person. Feudalism (ruled by lord/king), Fascism (by a leader), Oligarchy (by a few), Military government (run by military), Aristocracy (by nobles), Plutocracy (by money), Communism (ruled by workers), and Socialism (run by equality).All poltical systems depends upon the needs, resources, and management. However, in all other countries, poltical parties present a comprehensive plan for the best of their nation and community. Moreover, the Political Representative in the Assemblies of the Pakistan consider themselves beyound any law. They think that no body has right to question them. It is because the 1973 constitution had provided them extra judical rights. Their beaviour since last three decades is irresponsible in all speheres of life. They can exercise any powers.The politcal appointments in all state governed department like Banks, Communication, Transport: Railway, Air, Ship, Education, Steel and other Mills are glaring examples. It results into the detiorting state of all institutions. On 15.12.2011 a representative of PPP Fozia Wahab has answered to a question in cross-fire TV-show that every government places the head of intstitutes or at the key position the most loyal persons of the party. Thus with a clear objective to serve the personal goals rather than public. The political appointties do not take care of any rules and follow only the ruling elites. Mr. Musharaf had also annouced in an interview that all vaccancies must be filled on merit. But Sheikh Rashid, who was at that time information Minister was against it. He had argued that if it was done so. Then it would be political sucide for all politicians. He emphasized that if they do not interfere in offering jobs to the people. Then Public may not cast vote for them. Thus, all memebers were on this issue together.On the other hand, during second Nawaz regime, he had directed aparently to all departemnts that they must select the persons on merit. There were few people, who were selected as clerk in audit for Military as well in district account offices and in other departments on merit. They had tried to serve fairly but the system had not allowed them to continue. It also happened first time in the history that the bank of Punjab and Banking council of Pakistan had conducted examination openly for the recruitments. It had worked only for short period. The ruling people strengthen hands of each other and consider themself to be beyound any jurisdiction and law. This is evident from the statement of JUI head Mulana Fazl on 16.12.2011 to the Dunnya TV that issues relating to the vice or cirmes of the Parlimentarian must not be discussed or trialed out side the Assembly. He has also threatended like other ruling people the collapse of system. Hence, one can raise the question, why is it so crucial that a handful apportunists in Assemblies could play with the aspiration of the whole nation. Why they sell National Security at the cost of their power hunger and desire to stick to chairs? Why parties are not grown up and always try to protect unfair, economically, and administrativly corrupt leaders? Is there no one among the partites, who are fair, truthful and loyal to the state.The Prime Minister in his Senate speech, and other key ruling allies are threatning directly or partially the division of Pakistan into small parts like fall of Dhaka Bangladesh in 1971. Is this not a treason with integraty and soladarity with state? Is there corruption problem or security problem?.There is always mismanagement examples in the centre and provencial level. It is because the greedy Ministers are interested only to make mony either through appointments or commissions or kick backs in governmental tenders and contracts. They are interested for their chairs not for the welfare of public. There is famous saying of the Muhammad (PBUH) that whether change your name or your deeds. If someone, who is hungry and has nothing to eat. Then his theft would not be considered a crime or sinn. But the the rulling families have more than enough money by hook and crook. If political leader were invloved in corruption or kickbacks in the past; have they now changed their habits during last three or four years? The answer is definitly not! Why are they still involved in looting the natinal assets and people have to suffer? An example is that a solar-park project, which was sponsered by a US company in south punjab in 2010. The contractor from US had meeting in capital with the officials. The official staf of US Eembassy was also assisting the contracting company to deal with Pak. Adminstration. They had landed in the Presidency and Mr. President had informed them that he did not involve himself directly for these matters but his sisiter is responsible for those matters. The project was explained to her and others. They had praised the projects good out come in south punjab. However, there was no direct and indirect benefit for them. Therefore, the companys negotiation person had asked Presidentsister bank account; then an agreed amount ranging 100-200 Million US$ was immediately transfered as commission or kickback for this approvel.
The team now heads to Lahore so that they may acquire the land. The Governor Punjab, Chief Minister and other advisors had meeting with company in the presence of US-Embayssy Representative. The company had clarified that no commission would be paid to any person or department in Punajab. They have to offer the states land for the proposed project. This story was told by the companys spokesman directly to us in seminar cum meeting in Lahore.Now if a company has paid approximately 20% of the investment for nothing in a project. It is clear that company is interested to earn her whole investment at first. Therefore, much higher price per production unit of electricity or a price hike is always there. This result into many extra charges in electricity bills like fuel, misc.adjustment, TV and other sur-charges. Despite, the Memorandum is a letter between two parties with an offical consent. Letus suppose that it has been sent through some ones consent from Islambad. A few messages were posted through Black Berry Server(BBS). Now a days the modern Mobile telephone has very secure communication technique. The transmitted message has always the header senders name, account name, time, date and communication identity too). A copy of all comunicated messages has been always kept at the main Server(computer). It has also a backup for all trafics. However, it is very trivial for a system Administrator to retrive even deleted private customer messages from the main server. It may also true that a Black-Barry SIM (telephone identity) works only with a unique set, it must be verified by service provider. There might be no chance of tampering of the message. In principle, the communication would be safe and sound. In conclusion, there might be many more missmanagement, commissions and plundering of money in the system. No politician in the treasuray benches is interested to address this problem. But they are always hand in hand to protect their unqualified friends and hires.The nave or clever members are very good in accusing each other. They always devise ways to humilate others and also pasify the true information into illusion. It may be the basic requirement to be a politician that he or she must always tell a lie, ape and apease their masters and send people to hell into stone age life. Thus, commission mafia in politics as well as in the Bureucracy is responsible for the expansive life utilties and they drag collectively the degradation of the country. They have money which is earned at the sacrifices of common and helpless people.Is there any one who will take care of the majority of the nations suffering? The answer seems to be unclear, there is lack of motivation among or public issues are not important. But Memo issue is more critical for ruling party; it may hurt the fate of one person or all ministers. That is why there is big cry from all corners of rulling allies to protect som one by force. No one is beyond the law; even Parliment or you pave the way for Talibans.
canadian
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Naive Politician born to rule only!
Thank you for such a useful and well written reply.:thank:
Thank you for such a useful and well written reply.:thank:
Name Game through Bilawal and Mariam
Hi , first come to Bilawal whose birth name was simple Bilawal Zardari and his mother also put Bhutto name with her she was Benazir Zardari at real and also years she never added Bhutto with her son name at her death suddenly added by Mr.Zardari . Strange but he is BILAWAL ZARDARI as according to our society.
Now comes to marium her mother left her father name and adopt her husband name Nawaz with her but Mariam even married long time ago have father name Nawaz with her but she is MARIAM SAFDER.
It shows Munafqat from top and this only for political use so fake people with fake names .
Hi , first come to Bilawal whose birth name was simple Bilawal Zardari and his mother also put Bhutto name with her she was Benazir Zardari at real and also years she never added Bhutto with her son name at her death suddenly added by Mr.Zardari . Strange but he is BILAWAL ZARDARI as according to our society.
Now comes to marium her mother left her father name and adopt her husband name Nawaz with her but Mariam even married long time ago have father name Nawaz with her but she is MARIAM SAFDER.
It shows Munafqat from top and this only for political use so fake people with fake names .
Queue Farms
Banned
Re: Name Game through Bilawal and Mariam
Marium Nawaz Safdar ka case valid hay but Bhutto Zardari is derogatory
Marium Nawaz Safdar ka case valid hay but Bhutto Zardari is derogatory
Antistatusco
Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Name Game through Bilawal and Mariam
Yeh sab paisay aur mutlab ki game hai , it's famous saying Matlab Kay liay .............. So that's y keeping These names .
Yeh sab paisay aur mutlab ki game hai , it's famous saying Matlab Kay liay .............. So that's y keeping These names .
