Takmeel e Pakistan Resolution 23rd March 2010

[qurat]

I always knew this guy is a fake, I am just happy most pakistanis think so too. 53 people, what could be more humiliating than this? Now I will stop commenting on this guy , this guy is so irrelevant......

What the hell you are doing on this forum? And why the hell you are opposing Zaid Hamid coz he talks about kicking your ass.. Why are you so interested in Pakistani issues? FUCK OFF

 

[Sialkot01]

I always knew this guy is a fake, I am just happy most pakistanis think so too. 53 people, what could be more humiliating than this? Now I will stop commenting on this guy , this guy is so irrelevant......

What the hell you are doing on this forum? And why the hell you are opposing Zaid Hamid coz he talks about kicking your ass.. Why are you so interested in Pakistani issues? &*&* OFF

Very well said. I do not understand why the admin of this website doesnt block these INDIAN AGENTS. By the way funny thing is their fear from Pakistan brings them over this forum. They know Zaid Hamid will kick their ass for sure.

[hilar] [hilar]

 

[shaheedchoudry]

Alhamdulillah Islam

If you don't mind please tell us if you like Pervaiz Musharraf?
The answer of this question may help understand you.

 

[sagaciouscorpion]

Unrealistic Emotional Day dreamers???

I liked that expression ahsan...

 

[gazoomartian]

I always knew this guy is a fake, I am just happy most pakistanis think so too. 53 people, what could be more humiliating than this? Now I will stop commenting on this guy , this guy is so irrelevant......

What the hell you are doing on this forum? And why the hell you are opposing Zaid Hamid coz he talks about kicking your ass.. Why are you so interested in Pakistani issues? &*&* OFF

Very well said. I do not understand why the admin of this website doesnt block these INDIAN AGENTS. By the way funny thing is their fear from Pakistan brings them over this forum. They know Zaid Hamid will kick their ass for sure.

[hilar] [hilar]

I requested the same to ban them but to no avail. siasat owners believe in freedom of speech LOL

I went on an Indian forum and made a post and deliberately put this: India should stop meddling in the affairs of pakistan

guess what, moderator never posted it..... and India is democratic and has freedom of speech [hilar]

 

[waseemmanno]

I always knew this guy is a fake, I am just happy most pakistanis think so too. 53 people, what could be more humiliating than this? Now I will stop commenting on this guy , this guy is so irrelevant......

What the hell you are doing on this forum? And why the hell you are opposing Zaid Hamid coz he talks about kicking your ass.. Why are you so interested in Pakistani issues? &*&* OFF

Very well said. I do not understand why the admin of this website doesnt block these INDIAN AGENTS. By the way funny thing is their fear from Pakistan brings them over this forum. They know Zaid Hamid will kick their ass for sure.

[hilar] [hilar]

I requested the same to ban them but to no avail. siasat owners believe in freedom of speech LOL

I went on an Indian forum and made a post and deliberately put this: India should stop meddling in the affairs of pakistan

guess what, moderator never posted it..... and India is democratic and has freedom of speech [hilar]

Well I can understand the freedom of speech logic for our people. But whats the point to interfere in other's country matters. This is why anti Pakistani media is getting strong because they use their own channels of expression at the same time our's too. Siasat.pk should mean a channel for Pakistanis not for anti Pakistani elements.

 

[qurat]

If this website has to give freedom of speech to everyone why dont they change the URL from siasat.pk to siasat.com

 

[ahsan]

Didnt sohail post a pro-Israel thread above?
The fasadis and authorities had stopped people form coming. But what they dont know is that masjid mein azan eik hi mu'azzin detey hain. Namazi ahista ahista atey hain
Bsed on the environement, NOC from govt, we see more people than expected. We have started the process, and given the azan, namazi will be coming in fauj der fauj

This is how all tahreek start. I bet Jinnah had only one listerner in the beginning

by the way, anybody knows what NOC means?? (notice of cancellation may be?)
NOC stands for "No Objection Certificate" n is opposite.
Good work Zaid bhai keep it up

Please with no offence should be observed...

Before the election in NA 55 and 123 ive seen IK people with attitude of "YES We will Win".. IK is the next PM of Pakistan and etc... etc....

I observed you people were pretending or acting to be very Happy :) and optimistic even after a Heavy defeat of Imran Khan.... Even though YOU know things surely better than me n future of IK...

Now the same thing happend with ZH.. I know it very well you can negate anyone who doesnt follow ZH .. You People created a Hype, that he is the only hope, Sharia, Pakistan etc..etc...etc.. But when the baloon bursts............. Still the same attitude (HAPPY :) )....

Should I call you people as Unrealistic Emotional Day dreamers???
Or there is an Agenda which im missing.... I hope you dont mind, its the weird attitude making me curious....

it goes in reverse too. You all always negate those who are in support of ZH. We are justing support what should have been our ideology since 1947. We are not inventing, just reviving it. If you wnat to get stuck with some uneducated maulanas, I have no problem with that at all but dont expect me to side with totally uneducated molvis. Tell me ONE molvi that even knows what khilafat-e-rashda is

You can call me anything you want, it dont matter a bit. It has been the practice in muslims to oppose when ever anyone gives call to sharia or better system, we have tonnes of jaffers and sadique but the show must go on

Agenda is quiet open, Watch, Listen, Grasp... so simple

Zaid Hamid Zindabad
Pakistan Paindabad

Thanks for you reply, so it was "Zameer ki awaz" behind that attitude..:) I understand your "Agende" now and I respect that. "Goes in reverse too"... Things comming to Moulvies directly abt their credibility pplz calling them uneducated n blah blah... I dont think anyone doubted Dr. Israr or his Jammat which stood against right in the end (kind of indirectly)..... for Z.H definitely yeah...When it comes to Moulvies there are good and not very good moulvies everywhere, just like us Non moulvies. Its not people, its their belives, deeds and views are wrong and should be opposed, NOT people themselves or their so called brands.(it hit me somewhere when ppl say bad abt Moulvies in general, specially considering taking someone side making them "educated" and opposing is "uneducated").

Point is do WE have to go to the very extreme stance for every issue, from where we can never come back? or Always right attitude pushing us to a fantacy world where boundaries are made up of unbreakable eggos...

I Like your agenda ingredients... For myself stealing your all three and adding "calculate" to the third... Anyways below is my views in my 2nd post directly about Z.H. in case if you wanna brand me too ....:)

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=19413

 

[gazoomartian]

Didnt sohail post a pro-Israel thread above?
The fasadis and authorities had stopped people form coming. But what they dont know is that masjid mein azan eik hi mu'azzin detey hain. Namazi ahista ahista atey hain
Bsed on the environement, NOC from govt, we see more people than expected. We have started the process, and given the azan, namazi will be coming in fauj der fauj

This is how all tahreek start. I bet Jinnah had only one listerner in the beginning

by the way, anybody knows what NOC means?? (notice of cancellation may be?)
NOC stands for "No Objection Certificate" n is opposite.
Good work Zaid bhai keep it up

Please with no offence should be observed...

Before the election in NA 55 and 123 ive seen IK people with attitude of "YES We will Win".. IK is the next PM of Pakistan and etc... etc....

I observed you people were pretending or acting to be very Happy :) and optimistic even after a Heavy defeat of Imran Khan.... Even though YOU know things surely better than me n future of IK...

Now the same thing happend with ZH.. I know it very well you can negate anyone who doesnt follow ZH .. You People created a Hype, that he is the only hope, Sharia, Pakistan etc..etc...etc.. But when the baloon bursts............. Still the same attitude (HAPPY :) )....

Should I call you people as Unrealistic Emotional Day dreamers???
Or there is an Agenda which im missing.... I hope you dont mind, its the weird attitude making me curious....

it goes in reverse too. You all always negate those who are in support of ZH. We are justing support what should have been our ideology since 1947. We are not inventing, just reviving it. If you wnat to get stuck with some uneducated maulanas, I have no problem with that at all but dont expect me to side with totally uneducated molvis. Tell me ONE molvi that even knows what khilafat-e-rashda is

You can call me anything you want, it dont matter a bit. It has been the practice in muslims to oppose when ever anyone gives call to sharia or better system, we have tonnes of jaffers and sadique but the show must go on

Agenda is quiet open, Watch, Listen, Grasp... so simple

Zaid Hamid Zindabad
Pakistan Paindabad

Thanks for you reply, so it was "Zameer ki awaz" behind that attitude..:) I understand your "Agende" now and I respect that. "Goes in reverse too"... Things comming to Moulvies directly abt their credibility pplz calling them uneducated n blah blah... I dont think anyone doubted Dr. Israr or his Jammat which stood against right in the end (kind of indirectly)..... for Z.H definitely yeah...When it comes to Moulvies there are good and not very good moulvies everywhere, just like us Non moulvies. Its not people, its their belives, deeds and views are wrong and should be opposed, NOT people themselves or their so called brands.(it hit me somewhere when ppl say bad abt Moulvies in general, specially considering taking someone side making them "educated" and opposing is "uneducated").

Point is do WE have to go to the very extreme stance for every issue, from where we can never come back? or Always right attitude pushing us to a fantacy world where boundaries are made up of unbreakable eggos...

I Like your agenda ingredients... For myself stealing your all three and adding "calculate" to the third... Anyways below is my views in my 2nd post directly about Z.H. in case if you wanna brand me too ....:)

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=19413

I have no desire to brand you as I would hope you have none for me as well.

When I say uneducated molvis, I am referring to the molvis or maulanas who are truly bad, all they want is impose their own fatwas and wishes. Most are maulanas, molvis just because they have large unattended beard. There have been many maulanas that were great and some are alive. Just to name a few, Ashraf Ali Thanvi, Ihteshamul Haq thanvi, Maudoodi, Israr Ahmad (alaihir rahmah)etc.

And of course my father, Maulana Hakeem Alim Fazil Mubin Ahmad (a r). These are or were very eductaed, and knew their domain. Look at Dr Israr for example, Love that sheikh, he knows what he is talking about

Now there are lot of molvis who have no education, no training, no certificate, just long untrimmed beard and they are maulana. I am willing to bet they dont know what khilafat - e- Rashda from 10ft hole in the ground

Because ZH is a very eloquent speaker and knows his subject, carries conviction heavily in his lecture, molvis are jealous and want to trap in qazia (controversies) of yousf ali. of course the molvis have their game plan, for only they know. I do not know of any maulana, including all above, who can deliver message as good as ZH. That doesnt mean Israr, Thanvis, Haq, Maudoodi, Ahmad are or were bad, they just dont have the know how of public speech.

In such a short time, I have gained immense amount of knowledge by listening to ZH. Another great quality that ZH has, that is also very rare in people, that I never got bored in any of the VDO. I usually been waiting for next release.

such to yeh hai key: qari nazar aata hai, haqiqat main hai qur'an

Zaid Hamid Zindabad
Pakistan Paindabad

 

[QSHAH]

Didnt sohail post a pro-Israel thread above?
The fasadis and authorities had stopped people form coming. But what they dont know is that masjid mein azan eik hi mu'azzin detey hain. Namazi ahista ahista atey hain
Bsed on the environement, NOC from govt, we see more people than expected. We have started the process, and given the azan, namazi will be coming in fauj der fauj

This is how all tahreek start. I bet Jinnah had only one listerner in the beginning

by the way, anybody knows what NOC means?? (notice of cancellation may be?)
NOC stands for "No Objection Certificate" n is opposite.
Good work Zaid bhai keep it up

Please with no offence should be observed...

Before the election in NA 55 and 123 ive seen IK people with attitude of "YES We will Win".. IK is the next PM of Pakistan and etc... etc....

I observed you people were pretending or acting to be very Happy :) and optimistic even after a Heavy defeat of Imran Khan.... Even though YOU know things surely better than me n future of IK...

Now the same thing happend with ZH.. I know it very well you can negate anyone who doesnt follow ZH .. You People created a Hype, that he is the only hope, Sharia, Pakistan etc..etc...etc.. But when the baloon bursts............. Still the same attitude (HAPPY :) )....

Should I call you people as Unrealistic Emotional Day dreamers???
Or there is an Agenda which im missing.... I hope you dont mind, its the weird attitude making me curious....

it goes in reverse too. You all always negate those who are in support of ZH. We are justing support what should have been our ideology since 1947. We are not inventing, just reviving it. If you wnat to get stuck with some uneducated maulanas, I have no problem with that at all but dont expect me to side with totally uneducated molvis. Tell me ONE molvi that even knows what khilafat-e-rashda is

You can call me anything you want, it dont matter a bit. It has been the practice in muslims to oppose when ever anyone gives call to sharia or better system, we have tonnes of jaffers and sadique but the show must go on

Agenda is quiet open, Watch, Listen, Grasp... so simple

Zaid Hamid Zindabad
Pakistan Paindabad

Thanks for you reply, so it was "Zameer ki awaz" behind that attitude..:) I understand your "Agende" now and I respect that. "Goes in reverse too"... Things comming to Moulvies directly abt their credibility pplz calling them uneducated n blah blah... I dont think anyone doubted Dr. Israr or his Jammat which stood against right in the end (kind of indirectly)..... for Z.H definitely yeah...When it comes to Moulvies there are good and not very good moulvies everywhere, just like us Non moulvies. Its not people, its their belives, deeds and views are wrong and should be opposed, NOT people themselves or their so called brands.(it hit me somewhere when ppl say bad abt Moulvies in general, specially considering taking someone side making them "educated" and opposing is "uneducated").

Point is do WE have to go to the very extreme stance for every issue, from where we can never come back? or Always right attitude pushing us to a fantacy world where boundaries are made up of unbreakable eggos...

I Like your agenda ingredients... For myself stealing your all three and adding "calculate" to the third... Anyways below is my views in my 2nd post directly about Z.H. in case if you wanna brand me too ....:)

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=19413

I have no desire to brand you as I would hope you have none for me as well.

When I say uneducated molvis, I am referring to the molvis or maulanas who are truly bad, all they want is impose their own fatwas and wishes. Most are maulanas, molvis just because they have large unattended beard. There have been many maulanas that were great and some are alive. Just to name a few, Ashraf Ali Thanvi, Ihteshamul Haq thanvi, Maudoodi, Israr Ahmad (alaihir rahmah)etc.

And of course my father, Maulana Hakeem Alim Fazil Mubin Ahmad (a r). These are or were very eductaed, and knew their domain. Look at Dr Israr for example, Love that sheikh, he knows what he is talking about

Now there are lot of molvis who have no education, no training, no certificate, just long untrimmed beard and they are maulana. I am willing to bet they dont know what khilafat - e- Rashda from 10ft hole in the ground

Because ZH is a very eloquent speaker and knows his subject, carries conviction heavily in his lecture, molvis are jealous and want to trap in qazia (controversies) of yousf ali. of course the molvis have their game plan, for only they know. I do not know of any maulana, including all above, who can deliver message as good as ZH. That doesnt mean Israr, Thanvis, Haq, Maudoodi, Ahmad are or were bad, they just dont have the know how of public speech.

In such a short time, I have gained immense amount of knowledge by listening to ZH. Another great quality that ZH has, that is also very rare in people, that I never got bored in any of the VDO. I usually been waiting for next release.

such to yeh hai key: qari nazar aata hai, haqiqat main hai qur'an

Zaid Hamid Zindabad
Pakistan Paindabad

Very well said Gazoo [clap]