Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid's Take on APC Decision

Sohraab

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
aankhain kholo aur ghour karo Ameraica aur zaid zaman hamid ka aik hi mokkaf(موقف) hai.

zara ghaur karo

11th may 2013 ke Election se pehle Tahir ul qadri , Zaid hamid dono ka moaqqaf aik hi tha k Election na ho

aur America ne puri koshish ki ke pehle to election hi na ho aur agar ho to PTI kisi keemat per na jeetay

aur aap ko yeh bhi yaad dila doon ke Tahir ul qadri ki jo Long march hui thi , jis main woh Islamabad main container main baitha tha us long march ka sab se barra maqsad yeh tha k kisi tarha Election rukwa diye jain , aur us long march main musharraf ki jamaat APML ke tamaam numaiday maujood thay

it means jo kuch Tahir ul qadri chahta tha k election na hoon , wohi Musharraf bhi chahta tha aur wohi Zaid Hamid bhi chahta tha , it means these 3 Guys are on Same page at that time

Zaid Hamig khuwarij khuwarij ki Rat laga kar wohi khail khail raha hai jo america aur army chahti hain

Is Zaid Kazzab ko to bharray bazzar main Phansi deni chahiyee
 

ASQR1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Army is not taking money, your elected leaders are, Army rather go it alone and make its own weapons but your leaders who get cut from buying the weapons will not let Army become independent, Kargil was lost by politicians, Bangladesh was formed due to your politicians refusal to discuss the winners the position by calling him you there and we here, and told elected member in west that if they went to talk to eastern wing's elected members, he will break their legs. Who gets paid for all the transportation of equipment going through Pakistan, where does that money go, it is in millions. should I go more but I will not till I hear frm some of you who like to polarize Pakistan and see things in a myopic way.
 
Ab Yousaf Kazzab ka Chaila hum ko Islam ka Sabaq parhai ga (serious)

Zaid Hamid is a mental retard who promotes hate against others and misquotes quran and hadith to incite violence. He should be put behind bars and enrolled in some rehab for proper mental grooming.

Stupid Hamid with his stupid followers!
 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Mr. ZH

If TTP is the proxy of CIA then why paki fouj is cooperating with CIA; it takes money from CIA and kill pakistani citizens, just like TTP? I don't understand, if both TTP and fouj are on CIA's payroll then who are the bad guys?

I have seen many retards throwing this idea that, TTP is a CIA proxy, before, but no one could explain the predicament above. Since you are a cunning and seasoned propagandist for fouj, I would appreciate your take on this matter.

my analysis on this is that CIA could be through third party helping TTP. Or they could be both working separately and having the same agenda cause disruption in Pakistan. I do not think both are working side by side and discussing matters what to do next.

As for Pakistani army I think they are playing the waiting game and hoping for US to leave Afghanistan.

Yes it is all a confusing game that is going on.
 
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Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Army is not taking money, your elected leaders are, Army rather go it alone and make its own weapons but your leaders who get cut from buying the weapons will not let Army become independent, Kargil was lost by politicians, Bangladesh was formed due to your politicians refusal to discuss the winners the position by calling him you there and we here, and told elected member in west that if they went to talk to eastern wing's elected members, he will break their legs. Who gets paid for all the transportation of equipment going through Pakistan, where does that money go, it is in millions. should I go more but I will not till I hear frm some of you who like to polarize Pakistan and see things in a myopic way.

So are u telling me that army has never gotten money from US? well in Musharraf regime they sold so many Pakistanies and Afghnies to US for dollors, did this not happen? at this time was not army independent? Army has always wanted drones from US, but they have not given them any.

Bangladesh people were treated wrongly just like what is happening to certain groups of people today. The fire was already lit by us, all India did was put petrol on that fire.
 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
zara ghaur karo

11th may 2013 ke Election se pehle Tahir ul qadri , Zaid hamid dono ka moaqqaf aik hi tha k Election na ho

aur America ne puri koshish ki ke pehle to election hi na ho aur agar ho to PTI kisi keemat per na jeetay

aur aap ko yeh bhi yaad dila doon ke Tahir ul qadri ki jo Long march hui thi , jis main woh Islamabad main container main baitha tha us long march ka sab se barra maqsad yeh tha k kisi tarha Election rukwa diye jain , aur us long march main musharraf ki jamaat APML ke tamaam numaiday maujood thay

it means jo kuch Tahir ul qadri chahta tha k election na hoon , wohi Musharraf bhi chahta tha aur wohi Zaid Hamid bhi chahta tha , it means these 3 Guys are on Same page at that time

Zaid Hamig khuwarij khuwarij ki Rat laga kar wohi khail khail raha hai jo america aur army chahti hain

Is Zaid Kazzab ko to bharray bazzar main Phansi deni chahiyee

Completly disagree with you Zaid Hamid and Shiekh tahir Ul Qadri are good people. The reason Zaid Hamid did not want elections is because he knew that it will make no difference to awam, the same goes for Shiekh Tahir Ul Qadri. Even deep down I knew that status quo will do rigging because last elections there was 45% bogus votes, and foreign powers will no way allow IK to come to power.
Sheikh Tahir Ul Qadri was right also what he said came to be true.

We may have differences with Zaid Hamid on certain things especially when it comes to the performance of army however Zaid Hamid is a patriot and he loves Pakistan there is NO doubt about it.

STQ when he went to Islamabad to take on Zardari all status quo including army went against him, the exact same happened to IK in recent elections whole status quo and army went up against him.
 

Respect

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Firstly I would like to say Zaid Hamid is a patriot who loves Pakistan however he boosts the army too much and he concentrates on Kahsmir/India too much, otherwise 85% of what he say's is right. Just because we may have differences in opinion however he does not deserve abuse from anyone. Now coming to points he raised I have some diagreements with some of the points.

(1) I do not think TTP and CIA are working hand in hand, CIA may be supporting TTP through third parties but directly there is no link. However TTP I think is being backed by extreme Saudi groups and there agenda is too disrupt Pakistan by blowing people up. CIA/mosad has the same agenda as well.

(2) I do agree that speaking to them would be a waste of time because there agenda is too cause problems for Pakistan I think. However we still need to talk to them just to clarify to our people what they want.


(3) The solution is I think is firstly to get out of this so called war in terror, by stopping drones and asking CIA/Mosad to leave Pakistan. A complete investigation is also required in what CIA/Mosad have been doing in Pakistan. Once u are out of this war, we need our muslim Scholars to come out and condone innocent killing whether it be muslims or non-muslims. There has to be a intellectual debate on this as well by using Quran and Hadith. Also we need to talk to the terrorists as well, to see what will it take for them to STOP.

Now when all of these points are being done at the same time, if groups such as TTP or like minded groups will not STOP them hardcore action needs to be taken against them, and this is where Afghani Taliban come into it, if we can get help from them then there is a good chance inshallah we can give them a whopping.

(4) Concerning the point TTP are down now, are do not really know how much truth is in that. If they were down than why the heck are we going to talk to them, also ground realities show a different picture, it shows that we are on the backfoot and we need them to STOP. If they were on the backfoot why does GK not make it public that this is the case?


(5) I do agree that our judiciary has been useless when it comes too trailing the terrorists. However even our army and intelligence seems to be weak when it comes too interjecting terrorists bombs.



 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
also I have question for zaid hamid almaaroof kawaarij labeler .mister your lies got revealed after Pakistani army is releasing the whole leadership of afgjhan Taliban that were in Pakistani jails since 5 years or more.you claimed that Pakistani Taliban are "khwarij" but afghan Taliban are "good" and Pakistani army infact controls them (lol)...now how will you khwarij labler hypocrite explain the whole leadership of afghan Taliban in Pakistani jails ?and tortured badly by americans etc


اس سے کوئی پوچھے کہ اگر ساری طالبان کی لیڈر شپ کراچی کی جیل میں تھی تو وہاں افغانستان میں لڑ کون رہا تھا ؟؟
وہاں افغان غریب قوم لڑ اور مر رہی تھی ، ملا عمر تو ادھر کراچی میں مستیاں مارتا پھرتا ہے
یہ طالبان کا عجیب ڈرامہ ہے یہ سارے ہی امریکی کھلاڑی ہیں ، چاہے وہ پاکستانی ہوں یا افغانی

قطر میں طالبان کا دفتر مسلمان ملکوں نے بند کروایا زور دے کر اور امریکہ کی منت سماجت کر کے

کیوں کہ وہ ان مکروہ لوگوں کو اپنے ملک میں نہی دیکھنا چاہتے ،ان کو پتہ ہے کہ یہ کراۓ کے قاتل ہیں

یہ اپنی حرکتوں سے خود ہی دنیا سے معدوم ہو جایں گے باقی رہ جاین گے وہ جن کو قاضی دھوکہ دے کر چلا گیا

ضیاء اور قاضی ، دونوں کے بیٹے امریکہ میں تھے اور لوگوں کے بیٹے افغانستان میں تھے​
 

modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Dhul Khuwaisra sub say pehla Kharji tha ....meray AKKA pbuh ki hadith hai . Yeh TTP takfeeri ussi kay chalay hain ...aur ussi ki "ideology" ko follow kertay hain :

The heresy of the Departers [Kharajites] was the first group of people who deviated from the pure and sublime faith of Islam. The first and worst of those who departed from the Sunni path was the Kharijī known as the Dhul-Khuwaisarah. The Companion Abu Sa`īd al-Khudrī (r) related, “Once Sayyidina `Alī (r) sent some gold ore wrapped in dyed leather from Yemen to the Prophet of Allah (s), and he divided it among four people: Zaid al-Khalīl, al-Aqra ibn Hābis, Unaiyna ibn Hisn andAlqamah ibn Ulāthah.

A person among the Companions remarked that they had a better claim to the wealth than these people. When this remark reached the Prophet (s), He said, “Will you not trust me whom the One above the heavens has trusted? Information comes to me from the heavens morning and evening.”

Then a man with sunken eyes, high check bones, protruding forehead, thick beard and a shaven head, stood up and said, “Muhammad! Fear Allah!” The Prophet (s) turned to him and replied, “Woe be to you, am I not the person who fears Allah (s.w) the most?” The man than walked away and Khālid ibn al-Walīd (r) jumped up and said, “Perhaps one who observes prayer says with his tongue what is not in his heart.” The Prophet (s) said, “I was not commanded to pierce the hearts of the people or slit open their bellies.”
He (s) glanced at the man who was walking away and said, “There will arise a people from among the progeny of this man who will recite the Qur'an but it will not go beyond their throats. They will pass through the religion as an arrow passes through its target.”

Khālid ibn al-Walīd (r) asked the Prophet (s), “O Prophet of Allah (s) this man has all the [athar] effects of sunnah, his eyes are red due to crying, his face has two scars of tears on his checks, his feet are swollen due to standing the whole night in [tahajjud] night vigil, he has a thick beard …” The Prophet (s) replied, “The meaning of this Verse [qul in kuntum tuhib'būna allāh fat'tabiunī] say if you love Allah follow me.” He asked, “How O Prophet of Allah (s)?' He (s) replied, 'Be kind like me, be compassionate, love the poor and the destitute, be gentle, care and love your brothers and be protective.’”

The cursed man was called Dhul-Khuwaisarah at-Tamīmī and he is considered the first of the Kharijī to arise in Islam. The root of his sickness was that he preferred his own opinion above that of the Prophet (s). If he had waited to hear what the Prophet (s) had to say, he would have realized that no opinion can be given precedence over that of The Prophet (s), and it was his individual's tribe men who later rose in arms against the fourth Khalipha Sayyidina `Alī ibn Abi Talib (r).

Dhul Khuwaisra ??????

yeh kia cheez hai ???
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
:lol::lol::lol:

یہ خارجی نہی ہیں یہ خارشی ہیں

اگر رسول الله کے دور میں ہوتے تو ان کی کمر پر اونٹ کی اوجھڑی ان میں سے کسی نے رکھنی تھی

عبدللہ بن ابی کی جگہ بیت الله محسود ہونا تھا

باقی زید حامد کی موجودہ باتوں سے میں اتفاق نہی کرتا معزرت کے ساتھ
 

modern.fakir

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Yaar lugta bara tapaya hai zaid bhai nay [hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]

Zaid Hamid is a mental retard who promotes hate against others and misquotes quran and hadith to incite violence. He should be put behind bars and enrolled in some rehab for proper mental grooming.

Stupid Hamid with his stupid followers!
 

zhohaq

Minister (2k+ posts)
Mr. ZH

If TTP is the proxy of CIA then why paki fouj is cooperating with CIA; it takes money from CIA and kill pakistani citizens, just like TTP? I don't understand, if both TTP and fouj are on CIA's payroll then who are the bad guys?

I have seen many retards throwing this idea that, TTP is a CIA proxy, before, but no one could explain the predicament above. Since you are a cunning and seasoned propagandist for fouj, I would appreciate your take on this matter.


They can never explain it.
Its such a basic point that you have have an IQ below 40 to fall for the s hit Zaid Hamid is peddling.
They cant als explain if TTP is on CIA payroll how come CIA is spending billions to kill them with drones?

But thats what Lal topi, Kazab kay tatoo is paid for by ISPR 4 lakh mahana.
Confuse the nation so they dont ask to many question.

Yehi CIA, RAW, Kharji ,Ghazwa e Hindh etc kai chakron mein pari rahi, oar yeh dollar gintay rahay.:lol:
 
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Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Good to hear from Zaid after a few weeks of complete silence. I was beginning to think he'd be half way to Delhi by now after the rioting in Muzzafarnagar!!;)
 
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