Suggestion wanted from All members of Siasat Pk and all Pakistanis specially overseas Pakistanis

[sarbakaf]

We always see that our politicians and so called leaders / bureaucrats suck our blood rob pakistan and get setteled in uk , europe and usa.

what if we overseas pakistanis can for an organization and work against them and force them by all means to return money of pakistan and make their life socially difficult in these countries.

Well it my look like A DEEWANAY KA KHAWAB ...........but is there some thing we can do to stop these people .......

example : rehman malik owns property on edgware road value 42 million.
benazir , nawaz sharif , raja pervaiz ashraf all have properties in london. and also beloved musharaf

while pakistani parents have feeding their children less to save some money for next meal , but our presidents children are enjoying status of state guests in these countires.

you suggestions are appreciated.

 

[BrokenWing]

Lets start from the most corupt MQM

 

[forzeb]

well i suggest stop sending remitances to pakistan as soon as possible kion key aap key dollar yeh zalil log apney accounts main transfer kertey hain or hum ko rupee tarka detey hain

 

[PinkNemo]

salam.
i m new to this site.Can any one will help me to start new thread as i can't see this option.
Shukria.

 

[moadhia]

@sarbakaf... you can only make their life's socially miserable if these guys had any self- respect. They dont respect themselves nor their country and neither do they have any morals. Plus, we as a natioan are very dumb.
We have been electing PPP and PMLN for the last 5 elections, what makes you think every overseas Pakistani would comply with this plan.They would just be waiting to lick these guys balls as soon as they arrive in the UK or USA. Plus, they already get soo much criticism from the media and it doesnt seem to affect them.

 

[ProudPakistani]

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[Ammad Hafeez]

Lets start from the most corupt MQM

Hahaha, Is this VDO show corruption of MQM?? LOL I know you are suffering from MQM Phobia.. But its too much yaar.. In this Video a honorable mayor of Karachi going a little bit hyper because of asking foolish Question.. If some body works from inner side of his heart then 3rd person blames him Its really hurt.

 

[greywolf]

We always see that our politicians and so called leaders / bureaucrats suck our blood rob pakistan and get setteled in uk , europe and usa.

what if we overseas pakistanis can for an organization and work against them and force them by all means to return money of pakistan and make their life socially difficult in these countries.

Well it my look like A DEEWANAY KA KHAWAB ...........but is there some thing we can do to stop these people .......

example : rehman malik owns property on edgware road value 42 million.
benazir , nawaz sharif , raja pervaiz ashraf all have properties in london. and also beloved musharaf

while pakistani parents have feeding their children less to save some money for next meal , but our presidents children are enjoying status of state guests in these countires.

you suggestions are appreciated.

this is a good suggestion ... and don't consider it a Deewanay ka khawab brother ... you always have to take the first small step to reach the top floor and that first step is all that counts. Look at us sitting in Pakistan ... its been 63 years and we have not been able to take that small first step. Every protest in Pakistan is agencies' engineered ... even recent movement for Judiciary was engineered because if we would have been woken up ... all that has transpired after Judiciary's re-instatement would never have happened. So "In the name of Allah, the merciful and the beneficent" ... go for it.

 

[BrokenWing]

Hahaha, Is this VDO show corruption of MQM?? LOL I know you are suffering from MQM Phobia.. But its too much yaar.. In this Video a honorable mayor of Karachi going a little bit hyper because of asking foolish Question.. If some body works from inner side of his heart then 3rd person blames him Its really hurt.

............presume i got MQM fobia and the truth is you got BROKENWING fobia....Go get a life you paid scum.

 

[Ammad Hafeez]

............presume i got MQM fobia and the truth is you got BROKENWING fobia....Go get a life you paid scum.

Hahaha Mere bhai har jagah ek jesa Comment kroge? Paid Scum Paid Scum lol, Aj yeh sikha hai?

 

[Night-Hawk]

pearl bhai ... jitnee mehnat aap MQM par kar rahay ho agar PML-N par karte to aaj yeh farishton ki party hotee ... pata hai ... ganjay farishton ki ... LOL !

Graywolf Bhai ......... You seem to have read Manto......... lolzz

 

[ALI ARYAN]

Lets start from the most corupt MQM

Thanks for posting this video clip, kiyonke is se pehlay Zaid Hamid ke baray main sirf suna tha ke yeh kisi Kazzab Ka supporter raha hai, ab is ke views about karachi sunnay ke bad her shaks jo ke Karachi Rehaishi hai us ko Ba Asani Samjh aa jaye ga ke yeh sirf sath nahin balke khud bhi Kazzab (Jhoota) Hai.

 

[greywolf]

Thanks for posting this video clip, kiyonke is se pehlay Zaid Hamid ke baray main sirf suna tha ke yeh kisi Kazzab Ka supporter raha hai, ab is ke views about karachi sunnay ke bad her shaks jo ke Karachi Rehaishi hai us ko Ba Asani Samjh aa jaye ga ke yeh sirf sath nahin balke khud bhi Kazzab (Jhoota) Hai.

bohat khoob ... aik shakhs jo Karachi se bhatta le kar khata hai woh zyada reliable leader hai ... aur aik aisa shakhs jo apni mehnat ki kamai khata hai woh kazzab hai, jhoota hai. aik aisa aadmi jo india janay ko tarasta hai aur Pakistan ke wajood ko history ka sab se bada blunder qarar deta hai woh sacha hai aur doodh ka dhula hai .. aur aisa shakhs jo Pakistan se junoon ki had tak romance karta hai woh jhoota hai aur kazzab hai. Aik aisa shakhs jo apni hakumat ke liye dictators aur mulk lootne walon se haath milata hai woh sacha leader hai aur aisa shakhs jo mulk ki taraf maili aankh dekhne walon ke khilaaf jihad karne chal nikalta hai woh jhoota aur kazzab hai. aik aisa shakhs jo sab kuch apne liye mangta hai ... har kisi ko apne peeche chalne ki dawat deta hai woh qabil e aitbar hai ... aur aik aisa shakhs jo logon ko Mohammad e Mustufa SAAW ki sunnat aur chaar khulafa e rashideen ki sunnat par amal-paira honay ko kehta hai woh jhoota aur kazzab hai.
to phir hamaray saath jo kuch bhee ho raha hai theek hai.

 

[gazoomartian]

We always see that our politicians and so called leaders / bureaucrats suck our blood rob pakistan and get setteled in uk , europe and usa.

what if we overseas pakistanis can for an organization and work against them and force them by all means to return money of pakistan and make their life socially difficult in these countries.

Well it my look like A DEEWANAY KA KHAWAB ...........but is there some thing we can do to stop these people .......

example : rehman malik owns property on edgware road value 42 million.
benazir , nawaz sharif , raja pervaiz ashraf all have properties in london. and also beloved musharaf

while pakistani parents have feeding their children less to save some money for next meal , but our presidents children are enjoying status of state guests in these countires.

you suggestions are appreciated.

bhai jaan you will not be successful if you try to scare rich Pakistanis back to homeland. For one, the govt of UK/US will not allow money to be taken out and you will be branded as a 'terrorist' harassing 'innocent' people. And you do know there are literally 1000's of Pakistanis left the country, how will you force them to go back and what would they do if they do decide to go back? How will they earn money, how will they protect their money that they brought in from overseas?

The solution to our financial ailments does not lie in bringing people in by force. As a matter of fact the last thing you should do is to bring them home by force.

so how do we accomplish re-patriation? Lets do some root cause analysis.

1. How did the 'flee the country' syndrome started and when: During gen Ayyub Khan, despite his dictatorship, right or wrong, Pak was much more stable. Industry was flourishing, people were well fed compared to now. Yes people did not have freedom, but what good is freedom, which we do now, if you are hungry, cannot educate your kids, your life is not safe?

I remember very well when my brother supported us in Dhaka from Canada by sending only US$500/month. We used to get Rs5.00 to a US $. We lived happily in that amount. The world trading currency was gold at that time so we weren’t any slave to the US dollar.

Suddenly in 1971, by this time the ruthless Zionists Free Masons have completed the project of
migrating all the gold reserve of the world to their repository in the bank of England and in the Fed reserve of the US and started forcing the world to accept US dollars as trading currency. They had also bought out all the gold from the Fort Knox, Kentucky. This forced the US govt to borrow from the Freemasons giving them more leverage. Iran was the only country that attempted to defy that call to which Richard Nixon said about Iran : It won’t be good to their health (if they did not heed to US call)’

As soon as this happened, value of the US dollar shot up overnight (because every country was trying bring dollar for import of oil), rupees had to be devalued to be able to sell more to the US, whihc in turn worsened our economy. This vicious circle continued in circle and still does. By the way, despite what Americans are, I do not blame them for bringing US dollar as the trading currency. They did what they should have one to protect their interest. It’s sad if OUR leaders did not do to protect Pakistan.

While we didn’t even have to think of any recovery from this disaster, Gen Yahya Khan took over, making things worse. To make the long story short, and to add fuel to the fire, Bhutto got elected (regardless of how badly he broke my East Pakistan). Because he was a socialist and staunchly pro soviets and pro India, he wanted to take a revenge with the US. Because he had acquired immense amount of respect due to his performance in the UN and his ability to mobilize the Pak masses, Shah Feisal of Saudia was very impressed. Bhutto was instrumental in making two big mistakes out of his tyranny and stupidity. He convinced the King to impose oil embargo against the US and UK in 1971, just to revenge the US because of his hatred in his heart. Now the subsequent events prove that both men were mistaken, both died by the hands of others, assassinated and hanged.

He also made a terrible mistake, though it may have been good temporarily, that he sent 1000’s of Pakistanis to work in Saudia and other parts of the middle east. He didn’t have brain enough to realize that brain drain is a killer for any country. Why do you think US BRINGS people in instead of sending them out. People are the reasons for a country to flourish. This brain drain drove the labour shortage in sky, increased cost, resulting in price go up in every sector.

This mass migration of people to the US/UK/Middle East also created feeling between people who had gone and who couldn’t go so they started charging more money whether it was their corner store or bribery to the custom inspector. Every cost went up, rupee kept being devalued, price kept going up resulting in the disaster that we have right now. People started feeling insecure living in Pakistan. They started leaving at their first opportunity. And when my brother came to Canada in 1965, he sponsored me also in 1975, foreseeing the economic condition of the country, non-controllable by common man.

If I were to advertise in Pak newspapers today that I have become rich and wanted to bring 100 Pakis into Canada, I don’t have to tell you that I would get 10 million inquiries. Why? Do people not have any love for their motherland? NO that’s not the case. People love the country but are helpless, in that they cannot fix it.
I just thought I give you a brief scenario of what has actually happened because I believe you are too young to know or to remember, if you are old enough to have witnessed the aforementioned.

2. Here is the solution to our inherited destruction of the homeland. By reading the above you know why people stash money away in overseas accounts – very simple – they do not feel secure in Pakistan specially leaders – because they are ones who are worsening the situations.

Instead of harassing people to come mama (motherland) why don’t we make the mama some one to come home to? Beautify mom, make her healthy, prosper, worthwhile for the people to come and live with mom. You do know poor mom is not the world’s best asset. If Pakistan has developed to scale 10, 10 being the highest, has lost to offer for the people’s money, is peaceful, people’s lives are safe, suicide bombings ceased, no more NRO’s, article 248, no more theft from the banks. You will see the sons and daughters flock to see our purdied up mom, with full cosmetic on face, so good looking that kafereens become jealous.

3. To accomplish the above, that is to purdy up the homeland, we must do the following which is at the minimum:
1. Regardless of how you do it just do it. Get rid of the foreign forces from within and at the border with Afghan such forces from US/UK/NATO, kala pani (Black Water), etc. We have absolutely no reason to fight a war that isn’t even ours and also that has been waged and imposed on us using fake 911 drama staged by the smart Jews.
2. Get rid if the corrupt govt. Prosecute and hang them – YES no less than that – you don’t want them released 5 years later because Americans want them back in power as puppets. Doesn’t require too much effort and money to hang a couple of hundred people but you must do in public and publicise it so other take lessons as prescribed in the Quran.

3. Elect a new govt with people that have vision, loyalty to country, have NOT been in power before. We must not hire (or is it elect), Zardari (if not hanged), NS, AH. These are useless free loaders (NS wasn’t a freeloader before but he is NOW). IK is the best amongst these all but i have serious doubt in his ability to even form a govt much less run it, not that he is not sincere, I just don’t see him fit in the shoes, whether you like my comments or not. He is a wonderful man for the charity work he is doing and people recognize him as such by donating billions of rupees. He is a good Samaritan but not a good politician.

I would go even further in suggesting that the should award the chairmanship of his party to other person thru electoral process, and concentrate on making the hospitals debt free – his hospitals have budget deficit of several crore rupees. He is more or less of my age. In 15, 20 years from now we both will become helpless and useless. He might as well spend his time making the most of it in charity as his efforts will be more recognized.

4. In order to make our homeland sit on top of the world in justice, law, economics, military, what we need is a person with charisma, determination ( like YES WE CAN DO IT), jazba, love and fear of Allah and rasul (s.a.w.) but most of all he has to be a democratic dictator with vision of where the country should be taken to. In my vocabulary, democratic dictator means a person elected to rule the country you could say HIRED) for the position above the PM and the President. This person must have power to control bureaucrats, control the run away expenses, the lavish lifestyle of the PM/President, punish them for violations, arrest and convict the corrupt rushwat khors, chors, etc.

I have called the aforementioned person in my Patriots flowchart as the Director. This useless western democracy is great but for the white countries because it has been invented by them to suit them which is not a problem for us. Because of all these pains that we have regarding our country, I have created the virtual political party called Patriots. All the Director needs is three years with the power to prosecute, hang w/o prosecute if he sees it justified. Jail the corrupts, hang the rapists, arsonists, murderers, ghaddars, etc. One who has the courage and charisma to stand up eye to eye with the US and tell them ‘ Enough is enough is buddy. Now get the hell out of my country. No more diplomatic ties with you.’ Same thing for the UK. See India eye-to-eye and see how they run with their tail between their legs. We are momeneen, the best of the all Ummahs, Allah has set fear in hearts of the kafereens (called khauf-ul-momeneens) BUT we must complete the taqaza of deserving it. Farishatey will not come and help you if you don’t measure up to be the deserving person.

I swear by Allah that I have all the desire of bringing our nation back on the top and turn her into what she was supposed to be – an example for others to follow- but I do not have money to even register the party much less campaign for it. They very same courts that we have restored and love will come to oppose if you were to take drastic measures. Because they are just as corrupt if not more and they would never want their power see eroded. So they would have to be put under control too and nothing wrong with that if the intention is valid. In my opinion, justices, specially in a corrupt country, must be left unchecked simply because they are also a by product of a corrupt country. I do not believe in completely free judiciary.


I pray that some one does it the way I have described it. It doesn’t have to be me for I am not in it looking for power. As long as my country has been taking care of in my lifetime I would be happy.

Sorry that it got this long but sometimes you have to open your heart to let it out.
Thanks for reading this. Much obliged. :)

 

[khan afghan1]

wE SHOULD USE ALL FORUMS AND MEANS TO EXPOSE CORRUPT POLITICIANS NO MATTER WHAT PARTY HE OR SHE BELONGS TO.AT THE SAME TIME WE SHOULD SUPPORT AND LOBBY FOR THOSE POLITICIANS WHO ARE LOYAL TO THE COUNTRY AND THE NATION NO MATTER WHAT PARTY OR GOUP HE OR SHE BELONGS TO .SUPPORT AND EXPOSE SHOULD BE OUR MOTTO.

 

[greywolf]

wE SHOULD USE ALL FORUMS AND MEANS TO EXPOSE CORRUPT POLITICIANS NO MATTER WHAT PARTY HE OR SHE BELONGS TO.AT THE SAME TIME WE SHOULD SUPPORT AND LOBBY FOR THOSE POLITICIANS WHO ARE LOYAL TO THE COUNTRY AND THE NATION NO MATTER WHAT PARTY OR GOUP HE OR SHE BELONGS TO .SUPPORT AND EXPOSE SHOULD BE OUR MOTTO.

Who will decide which politician is loyal to the country ? Because we have this fine fraction among us ... there are geniuses among us who would call Altaf Hussein the most loyal ... Takla & Brothers, BBZee(as in BBC-here BBZardari) the most loyal to the country ... so it seems after an hour of this campaign we will be back to square one. MQMers won't back off because they would want PML-Ners to back off first, they won't too because they would want PPP-ians to come out clean first ... so who will bell the cat ?

 

[gazoomartian]

bohat khoob ... aik shakhs jo Karachi se bhatta le kar khata hai woh zyada reliable leader hai ... aur aik aisa shakhs jo apni mehnat ki kamai khata hai woh kazzab hai, jhoota hai. aik aisa aadmi jo india janay ko tarasta hai aur Pakistan ke wajood ko history ka sab se bada blunder qarar deta hai woh sacha hai aur doodh ka dhula hai .. aur aisa shakhs jo Pakistan se junoon ki had tak romance karta hai woh jhoota hai aur kazzab hai. Aik aisa shakhs jo apni hakumat ke liye dictators aur mulk lootne walon se haath milata hai woh sacha leader hai aur aisa shakhs jo mulk ki taraf maili aankh dekhne walon ke khilaaf jihad karne chal nikalta hai woh jhoota aur kazzab hai. aik aisa shakhs jo sab kuch apne liye mangta hai ... har kisi ko apne peeche chalne ki dawat deta hai woh qabil e aitbar hai ... aur aik aisa shakhs jo logon ko Mohammad e Mustufa SAAW ki sunnat aur chaar khulafa e rashideen ki sunnat par amal-paira honay ko kehta hai woh jhoota aur kazzab hai.
to phir hamaray saath jo kuch bhee ho raha hai theek hai.

Zaid Hamid, the only clear alternative for Pakistanis, Zindabad
Pakistan Paindabad

 

[contra]

Friends, Brothers...
1. Politics is really tough and requires commitment and the person should be thick skinned...

2. I think you should have laws which help the common citizen in gaining access to the government documents etc. This way, citizens can keep an eye on the working of the government and ensure that corrupt practices are minimized.
In India we have the Right to Information Act, this has helped the common people a lot, and we have been able to confront the bureaucrats and politicians with facts and have taken corruption head on...
Please visit this website: http://righttoinformation.gov.in/

You can lobby with your local politicians and NGO's to bring put pressure on the government to bring this law.

 

[gazoomartian]

@sarbakaf... you can only make their life's socially miserable if these guys had any self- respect. They dont respect themselves nor their country and neither do they have any morals. Plus, we as a natioan are very dumb.
We have been electing PPP and PMLN for the last 5 elections, what makes you think every overseas Pakistani would comply with this plan.They would just be waiting to lick these guys balls as soon as they arrive in the UK or USA. Plus, they already get soo much criticism from the media and it doesnt seem to affect them.

ewwwwwwwwww yike LOL

 

[greywolf]

Friends, Brothers...
1. Politics is really tough and requires commitment and the person should be thick skinned...

2. I think you should have laws which help the common citizen in gaining access to the government documents etc. This way, citizens can keep an eye on the working of the government and ensure that corrupt practices are minimized.
In India we have the Right to Information Act, this has helped the common people a lot, and we have been able to confront the bureaucrats and politicians with facts and have taken corruption head on...
Please visit this website: http://righttoinformation.gov.in/

You can lobby with your local politicians and NGO's to bring put pressure on the government to bring this law.

dear brother ... sure there is improvement in india's political structure but the problem still persists. Since we are trying to solve our problems ... why not be a little more sensible and eliminate the issue once and for all. Improvements are not forever ... they are like a volatile market which could dip shallow and peak higher at times. The last line of your message that I highlighted has everything in it ... if we were able to do that ... or at least the nation was ready to step up despite all the accusations and revelations ... this would not even have merited as a problem. Even our glorified Judiciary is wasting time behind the excuses of Lie Detecting Machines and regulating the same orders over and over again ... we are fast forwarding towards a crecendo ... and you know what happens once the crecendo ends ... its total silence.