Should we congratulate nonmuslims on their festivals???

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arshad_lahore

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masadi1980

MPA (400+ posts)
@Such bolo
Brov i dont know which Islam you are representing, Islam, which is available on internet??? i'm not opposing internet but on internet there'r also other factors exist which are spoiling Islam. So be careful.

@all
Please search very carefully on internet and ask any Aalim about these issues before posting and also before reading these posts and developing your thoughts.

islam is very pliant and has great esteem for other religions.

In islam there is no clearly mentioned that you couldnt greet any non muslim for their sacred events ( i'm not talking about saying assalam u alaikum). But everybody knows, how islam looks after the rights of minorities, and there are alot of hadis and verses in Quran when Holy Prophet (pbuh) used to visit non muslims, cleans their homes and also look after them. Even jews those got no shelter even behind the Kaaba Ghilaaf, Holy Prophet goes for their condolence. so plzzz be keep ur heart and mind open.

I didnt want to post any on this thread, because it gives impression that we are provoking each other instead of uniting.
 

jimpack

Minister (2k+ posts)
If you like to wish people please do wish and if it is not allowed, nobody is waiting for you to wave your hand.

You can wink also we will understand.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
jimpack said:
If you like to wish people please do wish and if it is not allowed, nobody is waiting for you to wave your hand.

You can wink also we will understand.


-you really meant that :roll: :lol: :lol:
 

jimpack

Minister (2k+ posts)
taul said:
jimpack said:
If you like to wish people please do wish and if it is not allowed, nobody is waiting for you to wave your hand.

You can wink also we will understand.


-you really meant that :roll: :lol: :lol:

Belated Happy Eid taul
 

such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
masadi1980 said:
@Such bolo
Brov i dont know which Islam you are representing, Islam, which is available on internet??? i'm not opposing internet but on internet there'r also other factors exist which are spoiling Islam. So be careful.

@all
Please search very carefully on internet and ask any Aalim about these issues before posting and also before reading these posts and developing your thoughts.

islam is very pliant and has great esteem for other religions.

In islam there is no clearly mentioned that you couldnt greet any non muslim for their sacred events ( i'm not talking about saying assalam u alaikum). But everybody knows, how islam looks after the rights of minorities, and there are alot of hadis and verses in Quran when Holy Prophet (pbuh) used to visit non muslims, cleans their homes and also look after them. Even jews those got no shelter even behind the Kaaba Ghilaaf, Holy Prophet goes for their condolence. so plzzz be keep ur heart and mind open.

I didnt want to post any on this thread, because it gives impression that we are provoking each other instead of uniting.

Bismillah ir Rahman ir Raheem,

i would also suggest to all readers that do investigate before following any verdict.. whether that verdict comes from your madhab/scholar or internet. Purly follow Quran and Sunnah... and dont follow anyone blindly.

You must investiagte first before congratulating any non muslim on his religous festival. Ask Ulema e Deen, ask them for proves, dont follow them blindly, follow Quran and Sunnah.

My Opinion: Congratulating non muslims on their religious festivals is a different issue and it has nothing to do with minorities rights or treating nonmuslims nicely. It is completely a different issue. Please dont mix these two different issues with each other.
 
salam guys..get over all this...we are living in new era new world so if we are indulged in these petty issues then i dont think we can survive and flourish in this world..such people trying to send us to stone age..come on guys..get over this..we shld congratulate non muslims...we shldnt be so rigid..be open to this...
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Top Guns said:
Taul Bhai its better you don't say nothing, More you talk, More taliban will capture your land, Cause when you talk, one word, Pakistan gets in trouble


--i thought so,you're incapable of even grasping minor things,guess for whom it was intended they pretty much got the drift unlike amateurs and dorks like you :D ..Rest assured your agony will keep on boiling further 8-) take a deep breath or try breathing in and out of a bag to compensate for your ever lasting state of Hyperventilation :ugeek: :lol: ..Raw rats and all conspirators will be crushed 8-) ..Time for some introspection,, being triple size of our land,ya'll couldn't save part of it :oops: :lol:
 

niazi

MPA (400+ posts)
such bolo said:
shaheedchoudry said:
Syd said:
Mr Sach Bolo, your post has references from Quran-e-Pak but these ayahts are not relevent to your point. Please ONLY use the Quranic referneces that are supporting your point. You are giving a wrong impression here as if you have proved your point from Quran-e-Pak. It is very very unfortunate.
THANKS, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO SAY.
THIS SHAIKH AND SUCH BOLO HAS PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTRA WHO IS MAKING FUN OF US.
HAPPY DEWALI EVERYONE WHO CARES ABOUT THAT.

Bismillah ir Rahman ir Raheem,

@syd and @sheedchoudhry if you think that by greeting to a non muslim on his religous festival you have shown good gesture and this would help you to convey message of Islam then I would say that you desparately need to know the true methodology of Dawah of Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) and also the requirements of Aqeedah e Tauheed.

You said that the Ayah quoted by Sheikh Saleh al Uthaimeen are not relevent to the subject, whereas it is not so. First you would have to read the whole paragraph and then relating the ayahs is very simple. (Of course these ayahs are of general meaning and not specific). I would try to explain the relation of these ayahs to the subject, just read the underlined phrases and the relation to the aayahs would be clear:

Congratulating the kuffaar on their religious festivals is haraam to the extent described by Ibn al-Qayyim because it implies that one accepts or approves of their rituals of kufr, even if one would not accept those things for oneself. But the Muslim should not accept the rituals of kufr or congratulate anyone else for them, because Allaah does not accept any of that at all, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

(Riligous festivals of kuffar are based on their polytheist faith...and normally on this day they do more shirk then on other days. How come a muslim congratulate a kafir on that day knowing that they are doing more shirk then other days. Allah will not accept the shirk and the festivals of kuffaar and they will be part of hell fire. The biggest sin on the earth is Shirk. Allah says in quran (mafhoom) that "ibn e adam mujhey gaali deta hai jub woh kehta hai k Allah ki olaad hai" now these mushriks are abusing Almighty Allah and we are congratulating them on their shirkiya festival) Now you read the following aayaahs.

"If you disbelieve, then verily, Allaah is not in need of you, He likes not disbelief for His slaves. And if you are grateful (by being believers), He is pleased therewith for you. .
[al-Zumar 39:7]

furthermore, we should be proud of Islam and being a muslim. Our religion islam is a complete deen. we dont need to do things which are not from Islam. Can you give me one example from the life of our Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) that he has ever congratulated any kafir/mushrik on his Religous festival?????:

This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islaam as your religion . .

[al-Maaidah 5:3]

So congratulating them is forbidden, whether they are ones colleagues at work or otherwise.

[quote:2yvznkfj]If they greet us on the occasion of their festivals, we should not respond, because these are not our festivals, and because they are not festivals which are acceptable to Allaah. These festivals are innovations in their religions, and even those which may have been prescribed formerly have been abrogated by the religion of Islaam, with which Allaah sent Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to the whole of mankind. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

"Whoever seeks a religion other than Islaam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers."

[Aal Imraan 3:85]

I would also like you both guys to just read the following ahadeeth. I hope these ahadeeth would more help you to correct your view point:

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wamaa alain illal balaagh[/quote:2yvznkfj]
JazakAllah of clearing misconceptions about the topic.
 

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