Shinning India

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Did you not get the most important part of the article that I have posted? It is that vote banks are being used to help the dominant communities of India. That is the elected people are furhtering the causes of the higher caste people. Which means that democracy is being misused and abused in India.

Also I am afraid that your dream peratining to Mayawati is a bit over-advertised. Following are the facts pertaining to Mayawati and UP:

Mayawati is a CM of the Indian state of UP. This state has a population of over 190M. Mayawati belongs to a low caste community and 50% of this state belongs to low castes ( 21% scheduled caste, 1% scheduled tribes, and 28% other backward castes). It is no fluke that a low caste individual received votes from other low caste people who happen to be a majority in the state. The other 50% include Muslims and high caste non-muslims. Her election had nothing to do with secularism it was a function of a caste based politics.
It is also interesting to know that before 2000 the state of UP used to be even bigger in population and area. However, in 2000 a new state of Uttarkhand was carved out from UP. This state has a population of 8.5M. The most interesting aspect of this state was its demographics. Unlike the current UP more than 80% of its people are either Hindu Rajputs or Brahmins. Hence a new state was created to facilitate the high caste hindus. Of course the official reason given to people was that UP is becoming too big.

I recommend you to read the Indian secularism tales to the youngs of your family at night as a fable. Indian secularism has no realistic value. It needs to be treated at its face value. That is, a work of fiction.

But all is not lost. May be you can go a little low on advertising the greatness of India and may be get yourself involved in bringing the sorry state of affairs of hundreds of millions of the low caste people of India to a more bearable set of conditions. Try to donate your money or time to these children of your lesser gods. Your government will not do anything about it because of the vote banks. Only the blessed people of India can bring change to the lives of the less blessed Indians. Only then can your India shine. And only then can your India be incredible.
Here is the website:
http://www.dalitnetwork.org/go?/dfn/donate
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well said khan saheb. this is the same india that these guys talk about? so they have been lying all along

India is not a democratic country. Democracy in india is pathetic, however only voting democracy does exist. for example, Indira ****hi paid Rs5 per voter to vote for her in Gujrat, that was the news in Canadian media years ago.

Democracy in india is good for the ruling Indians only, the poor 1.2B Indian are still suffering from British raj India as they did in the days of Nehru.... pathetic at its worst

But Indians say it is shining, where?

 

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India is great, indians are not saying this .but the whole world is saying this pakistani wants to say this too but little hesitation like accepting help from India for the floods

Lagay dam mitay gham. Lagay raho....

 

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Hello Friends,
I have found that when people talk about India, they usually manufacture their own figures. Someone just recently said 75% to 80% of people in India live below the poverty line. Some of the politicians and news people in Pakistan also use really old data to talk about India. Most Pakistanis will be very happy to note that right now poverty in India has dropped to 17-19%. Which is still very large but an achievement none the less. Forecast for India is really good and India is one of the fastest growing economy. Lets pray to god that poverty will be history in subcontinent.

Estimates of Incidence of Poverty in India
Year Poverty ratio (%) Number of poor (million)
Rural Urban Combined Rural Urban Combined
1973-74 56.4 49 54.9 261.3 60 321.3
1977-78 53.1 45.2 51.3 264.3 64.6 328.9
1983 45.7 40.8 44.5 252 70.9 322.9
1987-88 39.1 38.2 38.9 231.9 75.2 307.1
1993-94 37.3 32.4 36 244 76.3 320.3
1999-00 27.1 23.6 26.1 193.2 67.1 260.3
2007* 21.1 15.1 19.3 170.5 49.6 220.1
* Poverty projection for 2007
Source: Tenth Five Year Plan, Vol. 1, Planning Commission

Pandit sahib.

Poverty in India is 42% and not 17-19% (as claimed in your post).

You have posted the chart from wikipedia but didn't give its description. But created one of your own and stated figures about Pakistan 17%. Iss ko kehtay hain Ram naam japna paraya maal apna. These concocted FACTS will not make India shine.

For the information of all, here is the correct picture (according to wikipedia) of Indian poverty.

Poverty in India is widespread with the nation estimated to have a third of the world's poor. According to a 2005 World Bank estimate, 42% of India falls below the international poverty line of $1.25 a day (PPP, in nominal terms Rs. 21.6 a day in urban areas and Rs 14.3 in rural areas); having reduced from 60% in 1981.[1] According to the criterion used by the Planning Commission of India 27.5% of the population was living below the poverty line in 2004–2005, down from 51.3% in 1977–1978, and 36% in 1993-1994.[2] A study by the Oxford Poverty and Human Development Initiative using a Multi-dimensional Poverty Index (MPI) found that there were 421 million poor living under the MPI in 8 north India states of Bihar, Chattisgarh, Jharkand, Madhya Pradesh, Orissa, Rajasthan, Uttar Pradesh and West Bengal. This number is higher than the 410 million poor living in the 26 poorest African nations.[3]
Since the 1950s, the Indian government and non-governmental organizations have initiated several programs to alleviate poverty, including subsidizing food and other necessities, increased access to loans, improving agricultural techniques and price supports, and promoting education and family planning. These measures have helped eliminate famines, cut absolute poverty levels by more than half, and reduced illiteracy and malnutrition.[4]

Poverty estimates

The World Bank estimates that 456 million Indians (41.6% of the total Indian population) now live under the global poverty line of $1.25 per day (PPP). This means that a third of the global poor now reside in India. However, this also represents a significant decline in poverty from the 60 percent level in 1981 to 42 percent in 2005, although the rupee has decreased in value since then, while the official standard of 538/356 rupees per month has remained the same.[5][6] Income inequality in India (Gini coefficient: 32.5 in year 1999- 2000)[7] is increasing. On the other hand, the Planning Commission of India uses its own criteria and has estimated that 27.5% of the population was living below the poverty line in 2004–2005, down from 51.3% in 1977–1978, and 36% in 1993-1994[2]. The source for this was the 61st round of the National Sample Survey (NSS) and the criterion used was monthly per capita consumption expenditure below Rs. 356.35 for rural areas and Rs. 538.60 for urban areas. 75% of the poor are in rural areas, most of them are daily wagers, self-employed householders and landless labourers.
Although the Indian economy has grown steadily over the last two decades, its growth has been uneven when comparing different social groups, economic groups, geographic regions, and rural and urban areas.[4] Between 1999 and 2008, the annualized growth rates for Gujarat (8.8%), Haryana (8.7%), or Delhi (7.4%) were much higher than for Bihar (5.1%), Uttar Pradesh (4.4%), or Madhya Pradesh (3.5%).[8] Poverty rates in rural Orissa (43%) and rural Bihar (41%) are among the world's most extreme.[9] A study by the Oxford Poverty and Human Development Initiative using a Multi-dimensional Poverty Index (MPI) found that there were 421 million poor living under the MPI in Bihar, Chattisgarh, Jharkand, Madhya Pradesh, Orissa, Rajasthan, Uttar Pradesh and West Bengal. This number is higher than the 410 million poor living in the 26 poorest African nations.[3]
Despite significant economic progress, one quarter of the nation's population earns less than the government-specified poverty threshold of 12 rupees per day (approximately USD $0.25). Official figures estimate that 27.5%[10] of Indians lived below the national poverty line in 2004-2005.[11] A 2007 report by the state-run National Commission for Enterprises in the Unorganised Sector (NCEUS) found that 77% of Indians, or 836 million people, lived on less than 20 rupees (approximately USD $0.50 nominal; $2 PPP) per day. [12]It is relevant to view poverty in India on a PPP basis as food etc. are purchased in Rupees. So the annual income of a family of four at $2 PPP/day (current exchange rate of Rs 47 = $1) would be Rs 137,240 (i.e. 1.37 lakh Rupees). [13] According to a recently released World Bank report, India is on track to meet its poverty reduction goals however, by 2015 an estimated 53 million people will still live in extreme poverty and 23.6% of the population will still live under $1.25 per day. This number is expected to reduce to 20.3% or 268 million people by 2020.[14] However, at the same time, the effects of the worldwide recession in 2009 have plunged 100 million more Indians into poverty than there were in 2004 increasing the effective poverty rate from 27.5% to 37.2%.[15]
As per the 2001 census, 35.5% of Indian households availed of banking services, 35.1% owned a radio or transistor, 31.6% a television, 9.1% a phone, 43.7% a bicycle, 11.7% a scooter, motorcycle or a moped, and 2.5% a car, jeep or van; 34.5% of the households had none of these assets. [16] According to Department of Telecommunications of India the phone density has reached 33.23% by Dec 2008 and has an annual growth of 40%. [17]. This tallies with the fact that a family of four with an annual income of 1.37 lakh Rupees could afford some of these luxury items.