She Will be Attacked Again if Survived - Taliban

Raaz

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BuTurabi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

ڈرتے ہیں بندوقوں والے ایک نہتی لڑکی سے

پھیلے ہیں ہمت کے اُجالے ایک نہتی لڑکی سے

ڈرے ہوئے ہیں مرے ہوئے ہیں لرزیدہ، لرزیدہ ہیں

مُلّا، غُنڈے، بد اعمالے، ایک نہتی لڑکی سے



حبیب جالب مرحوم کی روح سے معافی کا خواستگار ہوُں

 
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UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The Great Mighty Taliban, who brought Mighty Soviet Union to its knees

Then is fighting the great satanic superpower USA

Is afraid of Malala the mighty, a 14 year old kid,

who can destroy them with few words and few strokes of a pen

Malala will encourage 000s of others to wonder what could be.

How many Malala's will they try to silence ?
 

sadia_gul

Senator (1k+ posts)
Inn khabeesoon se mozakraat ki baat ki ja rahi hey...:angry_smile:

They deserve capital punishment only...They are incorregible.............

Down with Taliban

Down with theocracy
 

sherkhan314

Minister (2k+ posts)
The Great Mighty Taliban, who brought Mighty Soviet Union to its knees

Then is fighting the great satanic superpower USA

Is afraid of Malala the mighty, a 14 year old kid,

who can destroy them with few words and few strokes of a pen

Malala will encourage 000s of others to wonder what could be.

How many Malala's will they try to silence ?


Please differentiate between them. They are NOT the same taliban who fought the soviet union. I'm surprised at the level of ignorance among our people.

These TTP people are foreign funded by USA and India and are completely anti Pakistan and they should be eradicated. But please remember these are not the same jihaadis who fought the afghan war.

[HI]No Mujahid or muslim can attack a little girl. These people are definitely non muslims and their job is to cause pain and destruction.[/HI] There was a news a few years earlier where they showed that these men were not even circumcised when Pakistan army checked them after killing them.

Imran Khan always says "Know your enemy". Duniya mein koi bhi uth ke "Taliban" ban sakta hai. The name Taliban itself has become immensely popular among terrorists. Its our job to figure out who they really are and kill them.


 

Pakeagle

MPA (400+ posts)
I ve no doubts in my mind that TTP is organised, supported and funded by US since its formation. It is the same situation when we were doing jehad against Russians in 80's with the help of US. Shariah is being used exactly in the same way now but against our own ppl.If you look at the timings of all major terrorist acts so far within Pakistan, you find purpose to suit their masters in the west. The govt authorities in Pakistan know it very well but they have been so weak to react in a positive manner due to the fear of US backlash. Until and unless we fight this menace whole heartedly we would continue to have incidents of this kind. We have to abandon the hard and soft approach to the cancer at hand with getting out of US war on terror first. Only then we can have periods of peace and tranquility in our homeland.
 

UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Please differentiate between them. They are NOT the same taliban who fought the soviet union. I'm surprised at the level of ignorance among our people.

These TTP people are foreign funded by USA and India and are completely anti Pakistan and they should be eradicated. But please remember these are not the same jihaadis who fought the afghan war.

[HI]No Mujahid or muslim can attack a little girl. These people are definitely non muslims and their job is to cause pain and destruction.[/HI] There was a news a few years earlier where they showed that these men were not even circumcised when Pakistan army checked them after killing them.

Imran Khan always says "Know your enemy". Duniya mein koi bhi uth ke "Taliban" ban sakta hai. The name Taliban itself has become immensely popular among terrorists. Its our job to figure out who they really are and kill them.

I do know the difference, but there are also many similarities. What are they both trying to achieve/have achieved, what is their religious background. The methods they both use, who is funding them both, Do they overlap, do they facilitate each other, are there people who have switched from one to the other, and finally, do they see each other as enemies, or brothers who share a common cause.

Finally the leaders of the TTP, what is their background ? did they just appear out of thin air 5 or six years ago, or did they come out of the "other" taliban,, who were fighting the Yanks ?


The Relationship Between the Afghan and Pakistani Taliban
The Afghan Taliban do not engage in attacks in Pakistan. Its efforts are focused on fighting Afghan and international troops in Afghanistan. Yet despite their differences, all of the Pakistani Taliban factions—even those that attack Pakistani interests—call the reclusive Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Omar their leader, or amir al-mu’minin. Their allegiance to Mullah Omar can be gauged from the late TTP chief Baitullah Mehsud’s continued insistence on being a disciple of Mullah Omar despite the Afghan Taliban distancing itself from Baitullah in 2008.Media reports at the time suggested that Baitullah was expelled from the Afghan Taliban due to his continued attacks on Pakistani interests.

The reason for this is obvious. Among the Pashtun tribesmen who make up the ranks of both the Afghan and Pakistani Taliban, there is widespread support for the Afghan “jihad.” The Pakistani Taliban must use that support to recruit the maximum number of young men to fill their ranks.

Indeed, even after reports suggested that the Afghan Taliban distanced itself from Baitullah, he continued to pledge allegiance to Mullah Omar as he wanted to maintain his support base in his native Waziristan as well as in the rest of Pakistan. Just like his predecessor, current TTP chief Hakimullah Mehsud also calls Mullah Omar his leader despite the fact that the Afghan Taliban never supported and approved attacks against Pakistani forces, the government or civilians.

From the Afghan Taliban’s perspective, despite their disapproval of Pakistani Taliban attacks inside Pakistan, they are hesitant to disown the TTP mainly because they need Pakistani Taliban support in the tribal regions to maintain their safe havens and sanctuaries, as well as to recruit Pashtun tribesmen to fight in neighboring Afghanistan.

Therefore, long-term interests as well as strategic expediencies are keeping both the Afghan and Pakistani Taliban—including the TTP—together despite having different approaches to the conflict in South Asia. Various reports also suggest that the Afghan Taliban sometimes leverages the Haqqani network to help maintain peace between the TTP and other Afghan or Pakistani Taliban factions in the tribal areas.

As for Pakistan’s military apparatus, it appears to ignore the activities of groups focused on cross-border attacks in Afghanistan. The military instead concentrates its operations against those groups that primarily target Pakistani troops and civilians. The Hakimullah Mehsud-led TTP is at the top of Pakistan’s target list for this reason.



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Spartacus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
We MUST stop Talban with all means ...........Spartacus

We MUST stop Talban with all means ...........Spartacus

Those who ever supported Talban must rethink . WE MUST stop TALBAN with all means possible.
After the attack on a 14 years old girl by TALBAN there MUST be a change in the mind of stupid and naive supporters of TALBAN.
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
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قاضی شرم تو تیرے پاس سے بھی گزری


کیا تعلیم باقی لڑکیوں کی لے نہی ہے
 

M Ali Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
[h=6]http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/opinion/kristof-her-crime-was-loving-schools.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1&[/h] [h=1]Her ‘Crime’ Was Loving Schools[/h] [h=6]By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF[/h] [h=6]Published: October 10, 2012[/h] Twice the Taliban threw warning letters into the home of Malala Yousafzai, a 14-year-old Pakistan girl who is one of the world’s most persuasive advocates for girls’ education. They told her to stop her advocacy — or else.

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[h=6]Damon Winter/The New York Times[/h] Nicholas D. Kristof

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She refused to back down, stepped up her campaign and even started a fund to help impoverished Pakistani girls get an education. So, on Tuesday, masked gunmen approached her school bus and asked for her by name. Then they shot her in the head and neck.


“Let this be a lesson,” a spokesman for the Pakistani Taliban, Ehsanullah Ehsan, said afterward. He added that if she survives, the Taliban would again try to kill her.


Surgeons have removed a bullet
from Malala, and she remains unconscious in critical condition in a hospital in Peshawar. A close family friend, Fazal Moula Zahid, told me that doctors are hopeful that there has been no brain damage and that she will ultimately return to school.


“After recovery, she will continue to get an education,” Fazal said. “She will never, never drop out of school. She will go to the last.”


“Please thank all your people who are supporting us and who stand with us in this war,” he added. “You energize us.”


The day before Malala was shot, far away in Indonesia, another 14-year-old girl seeking an education suffered from a different kind of misogyny. Sex traffickers had reached out to this girl through Facebook, then detained her and raped her for a week. They released her after her disappearance made the local news.


When her private junior high school got wind of what happened, it told her she had “tarnished the school’s image,” according to an account from Indonesia’s National Commission for Protection of Child Rights. The school publicly expelled her — in front of hundreds of classmates — for having been raped.


These events coincide with the first international Day of the Girl on Thursday, and they remind us that the global struggle for gender equality is the paramount moral struggle of this century, equivalent to the campaigns against slavery in the 19th century and against totalitarianism in the 20th century.


Here in the United States, it’s easy to dismiss such incidents as distant barbarities, but we have a blind spot for our own injustices — like sex trafficking. Across America, teenage girls are trafficked by pimps on Web sites like Backpage.com, and then far too often they are treated by police as criminals rather than victims. These girls aren’t just expelled from school; they’re arrested.


Jerry Sandusky’s sex abuse
of boys provoked outrage. But similar abuse is routine for trafficked girls across America, and local authorities often shrug with indifference in the same way some people at Penn State evidently did.


We also don’t appreciate the way incidents like the attack on Tuesday in Pakistan represent a broad argument about whether girls deserve human rights and equality of education. Malala was a leader of the camp that said “yes.” After earlier aspiring to be a doctor, more recently she said she wanted to be a politician — modeled on President Obama, one of her heroes — to advance the cause of girls’ education.


Pakistan is a country that has historically suffered from timid and ineffectual leadership, unwilling to stand up to militants. Instead, true leadership emerged from a courageous 14-year-old girl.


On the other side are the Taliban, who understand the stakes perfectly. They shot Malala because girls’ education threatens everything that they stand for. The greatest risk for violent extremists in Pakistan isn’t American drones. It’s educated girls.


“This is not just Malala’s war,” a 19-year-old female student in Peshawar told me. “It is a war between two ideologies, between the light of education and darkness.”


She said she was happy to be quoted by name. But after what happened to Malala, I don’t dare put her at risk.


For those wanting to honor Malala’s courage, there are excellent organizations building schools in Pakistan, such as Developments in Literacy (dil.org) and The Citizens Foundation (tcfusa.org). I’ve seen their schools and how they transform girls — and communities.


One of my greatest frustrations when I travel to Pakistan is that I routinely spot extremist madrassas, or schools, financed by medieval misogynists from Saudi Arabia or elsewhere. They provide meals, free tuition and sometimes scholarships to lure boys — because their donors understand perfectly that education shapes countries.


In contrast, American aid is mainly about supporting the Pakistani Army. We have tripled aid to Pakistani education to $170 million annually, and that’s terrific. But that’s less than one-tenth of our security aid to Pakistan.


In Malala’s most recent e-mail to a Times colleague, Adam Ellick,
she wrote: “I want an access to the world of knowledge.” The Taliban clearly understands the transformative power of girls’ education.



Do we?
 

sherkhan314

Minister (2k+ posts)
@UKPakistani:

Please see the source of this article.

"From the Afghan Taliban’s perspective, despite their disapproval of Pakistani Taliban attacks inside Pakistan, they are hesitant to disown the TTP mainly because they need Pakistani Taliban support in the tribal regions to maintain their safe havens and sanctuaries, as well as to recruit Pashtun tribesmen to fight in neighboring Afghanistan."


This is their excuse for the war and drone attacks and everything. The question is, who informed them of this love/hate relationship between Afghan Taliban and TTP? Do we really need their expert opinion on these matters? Sometimes I listen to news and hear "Taliban said this and that". Who tells the media what Taliban said? How do they know its them? Don't you see whats happening here?

[HI]All I'm trying to say is, somebody out there wants to badmouth jihaad and jihaadis and muslim. Even in our sub-conscience, we start hating the word jihaad. And this is one of the important aspects of Islam. Religion as we know it is being attacked and somebody is trying to mess with our minds.[/HI] Just remember the following saying of Mohammed pbuh

He further said, “Just before the end of time, young, idiotic people will rise. They will say words similar to (the good words) of the best people. They will recite the Quran, but it will not go beyond their throats. They will deviate from the religion as fast as an arrow pierces the game. If you meet them, kill them, for killing them will bring about a reward from Allah on the Day of Resurrection for whoever kills them.” [Al-Bukhari & Muslim].


 

UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)


Zaid hamid jaisa bhi hai jo bhi hai, He has been spot on regarding these matters!

Brother I have no dispute with you and we can agree to differ, but in the interests of knowledge sharing, I ask you again Mullah Omar and B Masud, is there a connection

secondly is all this news propoganda

[h=1]Taliban flouted Sharia law by public execution of Afhan woman over adultary[/h]
http://paknews.pk/780/taliban-flout...c-execution-of-afhan-woman-over-adultary.html

[h=1]Seventeen villagers beheaded in southern Afghanistan[/h]
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/27/us-afghanistan-beheadings-idUSBRE87Q04T20120827

[h=1]Afghanistan: “The Taliban follow the true Islamic Shariah. What’s wrong with what they do?”[/h]
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...ain-if-Survived-Taliban&p=1068380#post1068380



So PLEASE do tell me the differences between Afghan Taliban and TTP, please comment on the similarities and differences, and the fact that they all acknowledge Mullah Omar as Amir Ul Momeneen including B Masud,

Do You ?

Finally before 2006/7 what and where were the TTP before they suddenly became armed and dangerous with a strength of 000s, thin air ? or Taliban Afghanistan

PLEASE be honest in your answers and thought sharing !
 

In flames

MPA (400+ posts)
This is all the propaganda by evil secular government of Zardari and Kiyanni and also evil media of Pakistan,they cant wait to destroy Islam Astaghfirullah,thanks to US Aid they have been peddling this propaganda since 9/111 shame on these traitors of Islam.

And Yes Baitullah Meshud sworn Allegiance on the hand of Mullah Umar, those who think that TTP has no connection with Afghan taliban are living on Mars they have been brainwashed by bloody Zaid Zion Hamid.
 

M Ali Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
A load of bull****

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2012/10/10/comment/columns/a-load-of-bull/

No human being could possibly think of justifying the savage attack on a 14-year-old schoolgirl. But many have tried


Today, and in the days and weeks to follow, much will be written on the subject that I will be attempting to address today. While each one of the right-honorable journalists, columnists and analysts who offer their two-cents on the subject will be more thorough and erudite than I can ever hope to be, I just want to make sure that you are listening. And paying attention. How do you argue with people who still think that the Taliban are just a bunch of ‘misunderstood’ people? Simple. You don’t. Instead, you show them images of Malala Yousafzai’s blood-soaked school uniform. If they have even an iota of humanity in them, they will need no further convincing.

Monday’s attack on the Sitara-e-Jurrat recipient is not just a grim reminder that terror knows no scruples, it is a call to arms. The government, that includes the armed forces of Pakistan as well, which has pussyfooted around the issue of dealing with these villains for far too long, has no excuse for their inaction anymore. No human being, no matter who they are or where they are from, could possibly think of justifying the savage targeted attack on a 14-year-old schoolgirl.

But many have tried.

At a time when the nation should have been united against a common foe, many were still bickering about who the bigger enemy is. The logic they present is horrendous. The United States is killing innocent civilians in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan; therefore, the Taliban are justified in seeking revenge for these deaths by killing and maiming even more innocent civilians. And besides, because the United States sends unmanned drones to bomb funerals, weddings and other gatherings; any Pakistani who does not support the Taliban automatically becomes the target of anti-US anger. And rightly so. Because they did not oppose the US’ injustices in Iraq, Afghanistan and a plethora of other geographically distant entities.

What a load of bull****.

Let me break it down for you.

Pakistan has been patronizing (with and without sanction from the US) a large number of militant groups for various purposes. These can be divided into two major groups: those who fight the ‘good fight’ in Kashmir and those who fight the ‘good fight’ in Afghanistan.

On the Afghan side, Pakistan has been patronizing groups such as those of the Haqqanis, Molvi Gul Bahadur and Molvi Nazir, but they have never dared attack inside of Pakistani territory and concentrate their violence against US forces on the other side of the Durand Line. Of the Kashmiri groups, Hizb-e-Islami and its off-shoot Al-Badr, along with the Lashkar-e-Tayyaba, have never carried out attacks within Pakistan or against Pakistanis.

However, the Harkat-ul-Ansar and its offspring the Jaish-e-Muhammad (of Maulana Masood Azhar fame), have a stellar kill record inside of Pakistan. This is because they have linked up with the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), which is a decidedly anti-Pakistan movement. Add to this mix the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ) and you’ve got yourself a recipe for bloodbaths and mayhem.


So who are the TTP and the LeJ? In truth, no one knows for certain. However, those who have reported on their activities and met with their leadership say that these are groups that are, in turn, supported, funded and armed by the Afghan and Indian governments (as revenge for all the stunts they pulled in the past).

While all three states (Pakistan included) deny publicly any involvement with these ruffians, the truth is that each is using certain groups to its own advantage. Add to this mix the US, which uses drones to attack only Taliban not aligned with the TTP (with some notable exceptions in the cases of the two elder Mehsuds, who were enemies of both).

The drone strikes occur on the Pakistani side of the border because all groups of Taliban, good and bad, have sought refuge here. Even the common criminals and thugs who comprise the LeJ and TTP are let off, simply because they are not a direct threat to the US. Confused yet? You should be.

There is a solution to this regional game of good-and-bad Taliban, but no side is willing to make the first move that will end this bloody stalemate. Pakistan, for one, needs to stop supporting all kinds of Taliban and abandon dreams of strategic depth through a friendly Afghanistan. The United States needs to realize that there can be no alliance until they go after all sorts of Taliban and terrorists, indiscriminately. Afghanistan and India need to stop funding and backing the TTP. But obviously, it is far easier and more convenient to keep the charade going and to let innocent Pakistanis suffer.

We need to realize that we are fast becoming our own worst enemies. As long as we keep kidding ourselves, a Malala Yousafzai will be shot every day in every part of the country. I, for one, will not stand for a Pakistan like that. Neither should you.
 

M Ali Khan

Minister (2k+ posts)
And Yes Baitullah Meshud sworn Allegiance on the hand of Mullah Umar, those who think that TTP has no connection with Afghan taliban are living on Mars they have been brainwashed by bloody Zaid Zion Hamid.

Well at least you are being honest and open about it.

Many of the members here love our true national sport: CONSPIRACY THEORIES
 

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