Sharia is a Man made Law

[ZenoInTheZoo]

Why do I believe that sharia is a man-made law? The very fact that we ask “whose Sharia” when we start a discussion on the subject tells us that it cannot be Allah’s law. When we have the Quran which is a complete book to direct our lives (can anyone deny that) why do we need ‘sharia’ to direct us. I will give you an example of one simple law about adultery in the Quran. Chapter 24 (surah An-Noor) talks in detail about this… Allah say that you need four witness to see the act of fornication. He does not say if a woman and a man are coming out of a room together they have committed adultery. You need four witness to see the act. Have we ever thought what Allah is really telling us here? This is what I think HE SWT is saying to the “Believers” that if you commit adultery your punishment is severe. Be HE SWT is also “Rehman and Just” so HE SWT makes the proving of the crime almost impossible, but today by enforcing ‘Sharia’ we Muslims proclaim ourselves judge and thus we see people and mostly “women” being proclaimed the offender and criminal. Allah SWT commands us to ponder over his “Verses in the Quran”. It is a complete code of conduct for all believers. Allah SWT is just and HE SWT has made us all equal but we Muslims like “Bani Israeli” think we are the chosen ones. Get it in your head we are NOT! Allah only like those who are honest, kind and just. “Sharia” can only be Allah’s law if every aspect of “Sharia” is according to Quran. Till that happens it is only a man-made law. Please prove me wrong!

Then perhaps u made an incorrect choice of words for the heading of your thread.

In its essence, sharia was, is and will never be man-made. Its source is the Quran. However, after the death of our beloved prophet (PBUH) it is derived/interpreted thru intermediary(s). Those intermediaries most of the time cause problems and get Islam into trouble, sometimes due to their over-zealousness, and sometimes due to their lack of proper knowledge and training and sometimes due to their sheer stupidity. So, u always need to distinguish between Islam/Sharia and intermediary/someone claiming to be muslim. Please refer to post#8 also.

......and interpretation is also not as simple as you have done in your post. It requires though knowledge, training and care in application.....just to name a few factors.

 

[crowbar]

Can you backup your claim with some authentic references. so far what you have pen down is your own understanding of sharia which obviously are not prophetic sermon.

 

[only_truths]

Yes women Have Equal Right , But........... Not the SAME Rights.

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[gazoomartian]

پتہ نہیں لوگوں کو شریعیت نے نام سے اتنی چڑ کیوں ہے۔ ​

if I remember, I write tomorrow. It will explain why some people are dead against sharia

right now I am going to bed. Salam

 

[Cyclops]

Problem arises on rape charges , as DNA is not admissible evidence as per JUI shariat , a rapist even his dna found on victims body / cloths cannot be convicted

What do u want to prove here.
Quran says you should have 4 witnesses. This is sharia. What else is it.
Did any one says against it? Did any molvi say that only seeing girl and boy coming out of room makes them adultree.


U all seculars dont have any problem when underage kids have sex with 10 different parteners till they reach 18 but have problem if they are married. U even support to make such laws where having sex out of wedlocks should not be a crime.

Islam does not give a definate age to marry girl or boy but says it should be done as soon as possible so kids dont do zinna.
Islam does not force u to marry your girls to older men its local cultural thing.

 

[Irobot]

Problem arises on rape charges , as DNA is not admissible evidence as per JUI shariat , a rapist even his dna found on victims body / cloths cannot be convicted

Do you support capital punishment for rapist as well as zaani male and female.
Or you only want punishment for rape not for zinna bil raza.

 

[drkjke]

whoever says that sharia is a man made law has committed kufer. their is not even a one percent doubt in this.
because sharia e islami is a law made by Allah and it reached to us via quran and sunnah....

 

[Cyclops]

I support All punishment given by State

Do you support capital punishment for rapist as well as zaani male and female.
Or you only want punishment for rape not for zinna bil raza.

 

[Cyclops]

Just for Info : Shariat a word u dont even find in quran or hadithScholars describe the word sharia as an archaic Arabic word denoting "pathway to be followed", or "path to the water hole". The latter definition comes from the fact that the path to water is the whole way of life in an arid desert environment

whoever says that sharia is a man made law has committed kufer. their is not even a one percent doubt in this.
because sharia e islami is a law made by Allah and it reached to us via quran and sunnah....

 

[ZenoInTheZoo]

whoever says that sharia is a man made law has committed kufer. their is not even a one percent doubt in this.
because sharia e islami is a law made by Allah and it reached to us via quran and sunnah....

Thora hath haula rakho, yaar.........

Logon ki understanding level ka aik zra khyal kar lia karo......people can be at different levels of understanding of the same issue or may have made a wrong choice of words to express their understand......

Es liye please itni jaldi fatway bazi na start kar diya karo........

 

[Voyager]

If a religion requires enforcement, it is not religion, it is tyranny.

 

[Voyager]

Then perhaps u made an incorrect choice of words for the heading of your thread.

In its essence, sharia was, is and will never be man-made. Its source is the Quran. However, after the death of our beloved prophet (PBUH) it is derived/interpreted thru intermediary(s). Those intermediaries most of the time cause problems and get Islam into trouble, sometimes due to their over-zealousness, and sometimes due to their lack of proper knowledge and training and sometimes due to their sheer stupidity. So, u always need to distinguish between Islam/Sharia and intermediary/someone claiming to be muslim. Please refer to post#8 also.

......and interpretation is also not as simple as you have done in your post. It requires though knowledge, training and care in application.....just to name a few factors.


Hello ,

Very hard to make sense of your defination of sharia, please explain us more

 

[Pakistani Resident]

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[jason]

Problem arises on rape charges , as DNA is not admissible evidence as per JUI shariat , a rapist even his dna found on victims body / cloths cannot be convicted

There are two issues in it,occurrence of
1) Adultery(both are party)
2) Rape(allegedly forced)

in both cases DNA will prove adultery but Rape needs additional evidence as its penalty is severe.

 

[Irobot]

I support All punishment given by State

This is hypocracy.
What if punishment is according to sharia and law of land is quran?
Then your assrs start to burn. And you try to call it old fashion and barbaric.

 

[Cyclops]

Did i say so ? ??? I am saying that state should implement all punishmet as per quran, dont assume anythingQUOTE=Irobot;2204331]This is hypocracy.
What if punishment is according to sharia and law of land is quran?
Then your assrs start to burn. And you try to call it old fashion and barbaric.[/QUOTE]

 

[Cyclops]

DNA proves the case. If girl is saying she is raped than it is rape. In theft case u dont consider that item lifted could be gift,

There are two issues in it,occurrence of
1) Adultery(both are party)
2) Rape(allegedly forced)

in both cases DNA will prove adultery but Rape needs additional evidence as its penalty is severe.

 

[jason]

DNA proves the case. If girl is saying she is raped than it is rape. In theft case u dont consider that item lifted could be gift,

Accusation needs proof that rape was indeed commited I am not taking side of anyone as it is highly sensitive issue but ilzam has to be proved and DNA is not a conclusive evidence of Rape.

 

[Cyclops]

What is conclusive ? u need a molvi to check the penetration to verify rape ?

Accusation needs proof that rape was indeed commited I am not taking side of anyone as it is highly sensitive issue but ilzam has to be proved and DNA is not a conclusive evidence of Rape.

 

[Cyclops]

What is conclusive ? u need a molvi to check the penetration to verify rape ?

Accusation needs proof that rape was indeed commited I am not taking side of anyone as it is highly sensitive issue but ilzam has to be proved and DNA is not a conclusive evidence of Rape.