Resistance & Taqleed- In Response to Haroon Rashid

samar

Minister (2k+ posts)
بھائی ، جماعت اسلامی اور مولانا فضل ہی ساتھ تھے اس خبیث روشن خیال کے،

اور مولانا فضل تو ابھی تک زرداری کے ساتھ چمٹے ہوے ہیں

ساری قوم اس کے مخالف ہو گئی ، لیکن مولوی کا دانہ پانی چلتا رہا

لال مسجد کا واقیہ ہو گیا ، لیکن ان کا دل نہی پسیجا

جماعت اس وقت علیحدہ کیوں نہی ہو گئی جب مشرف امریکہ کے آگے لیٹ گیا تھا

آپ کے پاس ہر جواب ہے ، مجھے پتا ہے

hm b to kuch gunah gaaar hain k sirf leader ko hi bura bhala kehtey hain jo uskey saath sarey favoid hasil krtey rehtey hain jo uskey haath pe bait krtey hain unhain hm aaj b kuch nhi kehtey ............
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
BTW,

Taliban managed to kill few thousand US soldiers in this whole time.

In say baray cheetay tau Vietnami thay who killed tens of thousands and to this day that war is the only real great defeat of the imperialist US army.

Today Vietnam is on the path to join the rest of the regional economies as a bustling manufactring base for many industries.

How much did Afghanistan progress after the USSR left?

Ye dramai kahanian kisi aur ko sunao molvi sahb keh Taliban ye hein aur wo hain aur pata nahi konsay cheetay kay puttar hein.
Ager Afghanio mein aqal maut naami koi cheez hoti tau USSR kay janay kay baad apas mein na lartay aur apnay mulk ko re-develop kertay.

Charity begins from home.

Israel was found one year after Pakistan. Malaysia and Korea are of same age, even Bangladesh much younger than us. Where do we stand as compare to them.
 

such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
اس میں کوئی شک نہیں کے تقلید کا اسلام میں کوئی مقام نہیں
اسلام میں تقلید نہیں اللہ اور اسکے رسول صلی اللہ علیہ وسلّم کی اتباع ہے
اور تقلید اور اتباع میں زمین آسمان کا فرق
اتباع کس طرح کی جائے اس کے لئے صحابہ کرام کا طرز عمل ہمارے لئے مشعل راہ ہے

علما کا کام لوگوں کو قرآن اور حدیث بتانا ہے اپنی تقلید کروانا نہیں


تقلید اللہ کے نبی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلّم کے ٤٠٠ سال بعد وجود میں آی جس کا مقصد لوگوں کی آزادی فکر کو صلب کر کے
علما کے مخصوص ٹولے کا پیروکار بنانا تھا

ہمارے چوٹی کے علما نے کبھی نا تقلید کی نا تقلید کی تعلیم دی ہمیشہ اتباع رسول صلی اللہ علیہ وسلّم پر زور دیا
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
hm b to kuch gunah gaaar hain k sirf leader ko hi bura bhala kehtey hain jo uskey saath sarey favoid hasil krtey rehtey hain jo uskey haath pe bait krtey hain unhain hm aaj b kuch nhi kehtey ............

Unfortunately , pakistani nation got very few benifits and mostly we got harm.

and Marshal Law ruled Pakistan ,

The paracite of Mrshal law is Jamat Islami....

from Zia time to onward , Mullah Military Itehad , ruled.

What is the natural connection of Mush and Jamat , Fazal... except personal benefits... not national.
 

wellwisher

Citizen
shuker hai atom bomb mullah ne nahi banaya warna poori dunya kab ki tabah ho chuki hoti. wesy mullah ki itni auqaat bhi nahi hai k wo halway k ilava kuch aur baRa kaam ker sky insaaanon k liay.


Kya app jantey hain key Dunya main konsey mulk per atom bomb girya gaya ager jantey hain tu app ko yeh bhi maloom ho gaa key yeh bomb kis ney girya tu phir app asal mujrim ka naam kyion nahin letey......and you should also know who is actualy destroying the world ..hairat hey app ki danishmandi per
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Charity begins from home.

Israel was found one year after Pakistan. Malaysia and Korea are of same age, even Bangladesh much younger than us. Where do we stand as compare to them.

If you cant get the context of the post w.r.t the article which is heaping praise on the Taliban, then please dont comment unnecessarily.

I have no illusions as to how deprived and underdeveloped Pakistan is but for the sake of the article I decided to limit my comments to Afghanistan.
 

huss39

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
This molvi wants to do taqleed because he has not got intelligence to do ijtihad.
What a stupid idea that toothpaste has no barkat because prohpet SAW used miswak. How talban will have barkat in jihad using tanks ,missiles,automatic guns. In prophet SAW time these things did not exit.
Taqleed has done more harm then anything else. Divided Muslims in sects. compromised on tauheed which brought Qabarparasti and sufism . See for yourself what some of these sufis and pirs do.
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Charity begins from home.

Israel was found one year after Pakistan. Malaysia and Korea are of same age, even Bangladesh much younger than us. Where do we stand as compare to them.


And this is the classic answer of Taliban apologists and chest thumping patriots that when they are asked to answer a question which they cannot find a good fit answer, they resort to counter-questioning.
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
If you cant get the context of the post w.r.t the article which is heaping praise on the Taliban, then please dont comment unnecessarily.

I have no illusions as to how deprived and underdeveloped Pakistan is but for the sake of the article I decided to limit my comments to Afghanistan.

Please enlighten us your criticism is in context to which part of the Article? I did not found any statement saying Taliban made Afghanistan "Industrial Tiger".
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
And this is the classic answer of Taliban apologists and chest thumping patriots that when they are asked to answer a question which they cannot find a good fit answer, they resort to counter-questioning.

At-least we can beat our chest, you even can't do this because this is a condition to release $s.
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Please enlighten us your criticism is in context to which part of the Article? I did not found any statement saying Taliban made Afghanistan "Industrial Tiger".


The part where it says that if the world found out about the defeat of NATO in Afghanistan tau 'muslamano ke kaya kalp ho ker reh jai ge'.

Ye batein tab bhe hoti theen jab USSR was getting hammered in Afghanistan with the aid of US dollars.

Today Russia is once again an emerging world power with a stranglehold on Europe and Central Asian states while Afghanistan is still a piece of sh*t place wher war is the only industry.

"Kaya kalp ho ker reh jai ge"...yea right....
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
The part where it says that if the world found out about the defeat of NATO in Afghanistan tau 'muslamano ke kaya kalp ho ker reh jai ge'.
Ye batein tab bhe hoti theen jab USSR was getting hammered in Afghanistan with the aid of US dollars.

Today Russia is once again an emerging world power with a stranglehold on Europe and Central Asian states while Afghanistan is still a piece of sh*t place wher war is the only industry.

"Kaya kalp ho ker reh jai ge"...yea right....

"Mzahamat" is the key word in the whole context not the "Progress". You gave your means to those line I my opinion:

After 10 years America is not as pro-active as it was in 2001. This might gave Pakistan courage to stop NATO supplies. "muslamano ke kaya kalp ho ker reh jai ge". That they try to came out from American slavery.
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
"Mzahamat" is the key word in the whole context not the "Progress". You gave your means to those line I my opinion:

After 10 years America is not as pro-active as it was in 2001. This might gave Pakistan courage to stop NATO supplies. "muslamano ke kaya kalp ho ker reh jai ge". That they try to came out from American slavery.

So what is your 'keyword' for what the "mazahmat" achieved last time that the USSR was here and how and why is it going to be different this time around?
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
So what is your 'keyword' for what the "mazahmat" achieved last time that the USSR was here and how and why is it going to be different this time around?

"mazahmat" is not my keyword it is written in article, your "progress" is totally out of context. :)

USSR no more exist, USA finding ways for honorable rescue from "Kamble"
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
"mazahmat" is not my keyword it is written in article, your "progress" is totally out of context. :)

USSR no more exist, USA finding ways for honorable rescue from "Kamble"

YEa well theres a thing called 'extrapolation'. Read about it.

USSR doesnt exist but Russia is still a global power and still holds every 'freed' state hostage to its whims. No one does anything without Putins consent in the centeral asian states.

20 years on where are the Afghans today?
Still clueless, still fighting, still miserable.

Guess where the US will be after 20 yrs? Thats right. Exactly where Russia is i.e. recovered and on the road to dominance again and 'extrapolating' from history, the muzahimat kaars will still be fighting it out in Afghanistan.

Good luck.
 

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