REAL FACE OF CITY MAYER 2 IN THE WORLD AND MQM

mehwish_ali

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Malik495 said:
* Even many much much bigger Personalities than Mustafa Kamal (i.e. Sahaba Karam and Mothers of Believers) became angry and they used harsh words among themselves in anger. But all this is Human.

Can you please tell any example of Sahaba-e-kiram in which any Sahabi shouted like this on any person? If any Sahabi became angered then there always be a justified point and that anger was as a common man not as an Ameer.. and by the way as a common man you can justify this human nature but as a leader or as an official of Govt you cant use anger as a human nature.. and mustafa kamal at that moment was an official authorative personality infront of those women.....There should be politeness in the behaviour when you have been given the authority....all thse who criticize this kind of attitude are not haters of mustafa kamal so bear it...

Malik bhai,
Either normal person, or as President or Prime Minister of Pakistan, ..... first thing to note is their Status is always much much lower than Sahaba Karam, who are at much bigger Status than any President/Prime Minister/City Nazim could ever be.

Problem is this Human Weaknesses compelled such big Personalities too to make some mistakes at one point or other.

For example, I hope you have read the Tafsir of Surah Tehrim where Mothers of Believers got jealous with each other and made a mistake.

This same Human Nature of jealousy and making mistakes out of it is found in this tradition too:

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 47, Number 755
Narrated 'Urwa from 'Aisha:
The wives of Allah's Apostle were in two groups. One group consisted of 'Aisha, Hafsa, Safiyya and Sauda; and the other group consisted of Um Salama and the other wives of Allah's Apostle. The Muslims knew that Allah's Apostle loved 'Aisha, so if any of them had a gift and wished to give to Allah's Apostle, he would delay it, till Allah's Apostle had come to 'Aisha's home and then he would send his gift to Allah's Apostle in her home. The group of Um Salama discussed the matter together and decided that Um Salama should request Allah's Apostle to tell the people to send their gifts to him in whatever wife's house he was. Um Salama told Allah's Apostle of what they had said, but he did not reply. Then they (those wives) asked Um Salama about it. She said, "He did not say anything to me." They asked her to talk to him again. She talked to him again when she met him on her day, but he gave no reply. When they asked her, she replied that he had given no reply. They said to her, "Talk to him till he gives you a reply." When it was her turn, she talked to him again. He then said to her, "Do not hurt me regarding Aisha, as the Divine Inspirations do not come to me on any of the beds except that of Aisha." On that Um Salama said, "I repent to Allah for hurting you." Then the group of Um Salama called Fatima, the daughter of Allah's Apostle and sent her to Allah's Apostle to say to him, "Your wives request to treat them and the daughter of Abu Bakr on equal terms." Then Fatima conveyed the message to him. The Prophet said, "O my daughter! Don't you love whom I love?" She replied in the affirmative and returned and told them of the situation. They requested her to go to him again but she refused. They then sent Zainab bint Jahsh who went to him and used harsh words saying, "Your wives request you to treat them and the daughter of Ibn Abu Quhafa on equal terms." On that she raised her voice and abused 'Aisha to her face so much so that Allah's Apostle looked at 'Aisha to see whether she would retort. 'Aisha started replying to Zainab till she silenced her. The Prophet then looked at 'Aisha and said, "She is really the daughter of Abu Bakr."


This incident is here for us to get lesson that at one point or another, a person could make Human Mistakes. But for this, we should show patience and don't start Character Assassination, which is unfortunately has been done in case of Mustafa Kamal, and it has been turned into Political Issue and Character Assassination is done by Opponents on big scale.
 

rahat

Senator (1k+ posts)
It is ilogical and shameful to compare the crminals. terrorists, exploiters of MQM with the "SAHAB -E-KARAM".
The so-called development of Karachi is a proof of expliotation of the urban centres on the cost of rest of the nation.

MQM was and is supporting to all the dictators acts and was involved in killing the innocent peoples in Karachi on May 12th, 2007 to demonstrate its commitment with dictator Musharraf.

As far as the so-called developments of Karachi and other cities are concerned, these are all being done on the cost of the other poor peoples of the country. The real hardworking peoples of the country especially in Baluchistan and NWFP and other areas of the country being deprived from their due share and ignored in the process of development. Our ruling elite since independence always deprived these areas and all the national resources from these areas were allocated to some big cities, which developed sense of alienation in these areas and what we are experiencing now.

We should not be so selfish and should have the courage to speak truth and rights and justice for all.
 

Malik495

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
sister mehwish again you didnt get my words...you are reading all those views only by single eye... and offcourse i am nto comparing Sahab-e-kiraam with Mr Mustafa Kamal who is well wisher of Musharraf ... and who was musharraf i know better cz he lives here in london at edgwer road just few mints drive to my home..and what kind of life he is enjoying you cant imagine so forget it.. there is no relation whatever you have explained in Sahi bukhari hadith about Ummahaat-ul-momineen. there wasnt any faryadi complaind about this enternal matter of Ummahat-ul-momineen..i am not comparing Sahab-e-kiram with mustafa kamal. the only thing which i tried to compare is the authority.. if you have the authority to govern anything wether an NGO or any department then you are superior then others.. you must act with those who works under your control as an honest ruler does...
the thing which i wanted to highlight is the behaviour between an officer and a common man...
if i will say that Asif Zardari has the power as any of muslim Leader had in the past then there isnt anything wrong but that doesnt means i am comparing asif zardar with Salahuddin Ayubi... but what matter is the approach towards the problem or towards complains or faryaad...
It is human nature i understand what u have tried to convince i am agreed.. when you praised a man on his performance then you must bear criticism also..
there is no doubt that mustafa kamal's approach on this issue was absolutley rubbish... he should be polite and thats all ...why you are defending such an attitude which you cant accept yourself..
 

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