Peshawar Incident # PTI GOVT

[Respect]

PTI is generally doing a good job in KPK. Thing is that IK has not come forward himself to support the Christian community during this time of crisis. This is not media propaganda that he is nowhere to be seen, I am very disappointed by his reaction. In a few days when the dust settles down he will reappear again with his demands of talking to these terrorists even accepting all their demands for so-called peace. Either he start negotiating with TTP or let them be killed.

brother he did go to the christian comunity there is a video around somewhere. If milatary solution was the way it would have solved the problem by now, don't u think? We have no choice but to talk to them because our last 1- years or so startegy has failed, to say let them be killed brother they have been killing more of us then we have of them.

 

[Imranpak]

brother he did go to the christian comunity there is a video around somewhere. If milatary solution was the way it would have solved the problem by now, don't u think? We have no choice but to talk to them because our last 1- years or so startegy has failed, to say let them be killed brother they have been killing more of us then we have of them.

Problem is that one of TTP demands is for their terrorists to be released from prison. They also want the military to give up certain parts of the country allowing them to take over those regions once again. Talking to them does not guarantee an end to terrorist attacks, what we should do is pull out from WOT as this will greatly satisfy them without the military needing to bomb them. Talks or not they will continue to kill until the government does not abandon the American WOT and end the drone attacks.

 

[Respect]

Problem is that one of TTP demands is for their terrorists to be released from prison. They also want the military to give up certain parts of the country allowing them to take over those regions once again. Talking to them does not guarantee an end to terrorist attacks, what we should do is pull out from WOT as this will greatly satisfy them without the military needing to bomb them. Talks or not they will continue to kill until the government does not abandon the American WOT and end the drone attacks.

brother there are many groups fighting against us in Pakistan and TTP is one of them. I could be wrong in my analysis but I think TTP could not care less whether drones STOP or NOT because going by media and other people on this forum they KILL innocent people themselves, so why would they care for drones to STOP.

What we need to identify is who are fighting us, i other words how many groups. We need to STOP drones and ask foreign agents to leave, this is a MUST and make this our own war. By getting out of this war and stopping drones then we can try to make amends with north wariztan people, for that we need to show in media what they have been going through. If we are successful in making them come back to us, then the ones that are hell ben in bombing us we can take action against them. It will make it difficult for these groups to operate if we make this war our own. Once we are out then we can intellectually challenge them through Quran and Sunnah.

However by just talking to them the end result will not be much, and even milatary action will not help things. We are stuck and the main problem we have is honest leadership.

 

[Imranpak]

brother there are many groups fighting against us in Pakistan and TTP is one of them. I could be wrong in my analysis but I think TTP could not care less whether drones STOP or NOT because going by media and other people on this forum they KILL innocent people themselves, so why would they care for drones to STOP.

What we need to identify is who are fighting us, i other words how many groups. We need to STOP drones and ask foreign agents to leave, this is a MUST and make this our own war. By getting out of this war and stopping drones then we can try to make amends with north wariztan people, for that we need to show in media what they have been going through. If we are successful in making them come back to us, then the ones that are hell ben in bombing us we can take action against them. It will make it difficult for these groups to operate if we make this war our own. Once we are out then we can intellectually challenge them through Quran and Sunnah.

However by just talking to them the end result will not be much, and even milatary action will not help things. We are stuck and the main problem we have is honest leadership.

Thing to remember is that we had no such problems prior to the war in Afghanistan. Imran Khan is correct in his analysis that when the American's drone them in FATA supported by our government it will turn anyone in to a terrorist. Now many are actively working under the name of "Taliban" including petty thieves and gangsters who have different agenda's. The TTP kill to avenge the drones that murder their people. I am afraid foreign agents can not be "asked" but forced to leave by hook or by crook so we have to become much tougher. The terrorists are not up for intellectual debates now or in the future that they see as a sign of weakness.

If we kill them or allow the Americans to drone them then they are sure to take revenge by continuing such attacks. Talking to them whilst they are being bombed or droned will not solve anything either so the best thing to do is pull out of the WOT and stop NATO supplies permanently like Zaid Hamid says.

 

[adamfani]

Changroan ki Hatak na karo yaar

 

[ali-raj]

PTI is generally doing a good job in KPK. Thing is that IK has not come forward himself to support the Christian community during this time of crisis. This is not media propaganda that he is nowhere to be seen, I am very disappointed by his reaction. In a few days when the dust settles down he will reappear again with his demands of talking to these terrorists even accepting all their demands for so-called peace. Either he start negotiating with TTP or let them be killed.

You High?
Media showed videos of him. He is in Peshawar, overlooking everything. Infact, he is the only Leader of the Political Party, who visited the Ground Zero himself.
Get your facts straight first.
By the way, if you are not getting any news, it is because, the media is biased towards PTI. They show 1 minute clip, with useless info about PTI and 30 mins clips against PTI.

 

[Imranpak]

You High?
Media showed videos of him. He is in Peshawar, overlooking everything. Infact, he is the only Leader of the Political Party, who visited the Ground Zero himself.
Get your facts straight first.
By the way, if you are not getting any news, it is because, the media is biased towards PTI. They show 1 minute clip, with useless info about PTI and 30 mins clips against PTI.

No I am not high but real unlike you! I have only seen IK visiting the blast site yesterday for a few minutes. Today in some programme the Pak Christians are complaining of inadequate medicines and lack of facilities in KPK hospitals. I am not being told this by a journalist bit have heard people say it themselves. Unless you can provide solid evidence your points are nothing but conjecture.

 

[gazoomartian]

Musharraf was much much better, at least he knows how to make and implement decisions. He implemented Dialogue, Deterrent and Development policy.

Keep in mind "Problems Never Fix Automatically, Someone Has to Take Actions to Fix the Problems"

PTI is stupidly saying again and again that we already fought with terrorist and we couldn't win......Unfortunately we never fought with terrorist, Army only did few small operations... this is the time to Fight as NATION and as a WAR against terrorist. InshAllahh we will win in days....just a resolve is needed

and not to mention another policy: lay down in front of the West and let them walk over us. plicy of being a coward.

 

[AhsanAltaf1]

No I am not high but real unlike you! I have only seen IK visiting the blast site yesterday for a few minutes. Today in some programme the Pak Christians are complaining of inadequate medicines and lack of facilities in KPK hospitals. I am not being told this by a journalist bit have heard people say it themselves. Unless you can provide solid evidence your points are nothing but conjecture.

will u please check your DM sir ??

 

[ali-raj]

No I am not high but real unlike you! I have only seen IK visiting the blast site yesterday for a few minutes. Today in some programme the Pak Christians are complaining of inadequate medicines and lack of facilities in KPK hospitals. I am not being told this by a journalist bit have heard people say it themselves. Unless you can provide solid evidence your points are nothing but conjecture.

Your lack of knowledge/information is what makes you unreal. you are looking at the picture from only one view, the view which you like the most. Get real.

As far as the Christians are concerned, pick out any other program related to them, they always complain. Look at your self too, when you don't get a reply from a simple store clerk in few second, you start to complain, its a natural tendency of a human being.

Same media was showing Hospitals with efficient working day before the blast.As far as facilities are concerned, whole pakistan lacks, but govt is working on it, nothing comes out in a whim of an eye.

To get the evidence, come down to Pakistan, other wise, your requirement of solid evidence is as false as your believe on reality. you cannot judge anything by the views of other, to be the judge, you have to experience it first hand, keeping every factor in account.

 

[zain shafique]

LAL topi wala bunder

 

[karella]

Re: LAL topi wala bunder

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[jangjoo786]

Re: LAL topi wala bunder

 

[gorgias]

Why you dont go Peshawar to meet christians families who lost their loved ones? No need to call UK and waste your time with someone who believe and follow idiot khan with close eyes. Open your eyes. It is not about pti is popular or not but it is about 86 people are dead in peshwar and Army General lost his life in another part of kpk.

People of kpk are very happy becuase you should be happy before death.

میں پشاور میں رہتا ہوں اور میرے کرسچن کمیونٹی سے اچھے اور گہرے تعلقات ہیں۔ میں بتا تا ہوں لوگوں کو مشتعل افتخار حسین نے کیا۔ لوگوں کو مشتعل ٹی کی اس پٹی نے کہ؛صفائی کرنے والوں کا صفایا ہو گیا نے کیا۔ پشاور کے سب لوگ ان کی مدد کو گئے۔ دہشت گردی کی وجہ سے پشاور کا انفراسٹرکچر تباہ ہو چکا ہے۔ یہاں کے لوگ اپنی مدد آپ کے تحت کام کرتے ہیں ۔ یہاں کے لوگ خون دینے ہسپتال گئے۔محض عمران خان کی دشمنی میں غیر معقول باتوں اور دیگر بہتان تراشی سے سے پرہیز کریں۔ میں آپ کی پوسٹ پڑھتا رہتا ہوں۔ لیکن تبصرہ اس لیے نہیں کرتا کہ محض انٹر نیٹ پر بیٹھ کر دوسروں کا گالیاں دینے وے کوئی معتبر یا اس قابل نہیں بن جاتا کہ اس کی بات کا جواب دیا جائے۔ اور ہاں میں آپ کو مشورہ دیتا ہوں آپ تو پنڈی میں رہتے ہیں۔ اور صرف دشنام طرازی کرتے ہیں آپ پشاور آجائیں اور خود حالات دیکھ لیں۔ شائد یہاں آکر آپ کوئی سبق حاصل کر سکیں۔
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[Mikkix]

IK should stop this stupidity. Everyone agreed for action in militant areas. We should not stop action, and dont try to fools ourselves.
If Army and federation wants action then we should say go ahead. We dont need to persuade our thinking to them, let them do whatever they want.
Agar bewaqoof ghalti kar raha ho to usko roka na karo balke karne do, We should not let them stop.

 

[Imranpak]

Your lack of knowledge/information is what makes you unreal. you are looking at the picture from only one view, the view which you like the most. Get real.

As far as the Christians are concerned, pick out any other program related to them, they always complain. Look at your self too, when you don't get a reply from a simple store clerk in few second, you start to complain, its a natural tendency of a human being.

Same media was showing Hospitals with efficient working day before the blast.As far as facilities are concerned, whole pakistan lacks, but govt is working on it, nothing comes out in a whim of an eye.

To get the evidence, come down to Pakistan, other wise, your requirement of solid evidence is as false as your believe on reality. you cannot judge anything by the views of other, to be the judge, you have to experience it first hand, keeping every factor in account.

Next you will be telling me that Christians are being treated well in Pakistan:lol::lol:. I am simply stating the facts that IK only visited the church and community for a few minutes, you can clearly hear what the Christians think of him with their chants. Your bias comments of PTI having done a lot for the suffering people are absurd to say the least.

Christians are not always complaining rather stating the facts of how they are regularly discriminated against in Pakistan, I don't know why you are denying the obvious?? I have been to Pak many times and seen how often Muslim's don't even accept water from the hands of "kafir Christian's". By contrast Muslim people are treated much better in the west/non-Muslim countries. You don't have a clue of what you talking about!

 

[ali-raj]

Next you will be telling me that Christians are being treated well in Pakistan:lol::lol:. I am simply stating the facts that IK only visited the church and community for a few minutes, you can clearly hear what the Christians think of him with their chants. Your bias comments of PTI having done a lot for the suffering people are absurd to say the least.

Christians are not always complaining rather stating the facts of how they are regularly discriminated against in Pakistan, I don't know why you are denying the obvious?? I have been to Pak many times and seen how often Muslim's don't even accept water from the hands of "kafir Christian's". By contrast Muslim people are treated much better in the west/non-Muslim countries. You don't have a clue of what you talking about!

Your facts are distorted, thats what i can clearly see and say. Discrimination for minorities is every where. What do you call man handling of Muslims all over the world? is it a fact or fiction? And chanting of a few is not to be considered as the voice of all.

I am not denying the obvious, but stating fact. All minorities complain, this is how they ensure their well being. A lot of Christians are in Pakistan, those who changed themselves, studied , got better jobs and living, those who remained behind, are working as sweepers etc, which no one asked them to do.

I guess, you are a muslim. Do read about "Taharat" to get the answer about seperate mugs etc.

 

[Imranpak]

Your facts are distorted, thats what i can clearly see and say. Discrimination for minorities is every where. What do you call man handling of Muslims all over the world? is it a fact or fiction? And chanting of a few is not to be considered as the voice of all.

I am not denying the obvious, but stating fact. All minorities complain, this is how they ensure their well being. A lot of Christians are in Pakistan, those who changed themselves, studied , got better jobs and living, those who remained behind, are working as sweepers etc, which no one asked them to do.

I guess, you are a muslim. Do read about "Taharat" to get the answer about seperate mugs etc.

You being ridiculous with your "discrimination is everywhere" comment! Two or more wrongs never make a right, just because such things happen in other countries does not mean they should do so in Pak as well. Muslim's being killed by American's does not mean we should be killing our innocent Christian community. Rather you should read the agreement by pbuh on our position with Christian people. Your views are those of a child not worthy of any attention! Your attempts to justify the killings of innocent Christians are even more pathetic so grow up and act your age(serious)