PARTITION OF 1947-A CONTINUITY OF INDIAN HISTORY ONLY

Star Gazer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Following are some facts of history for all to read and know that Never in the history of india has it been ruled as a whole land other than Ashoka amd much later the Mughal. So why do th indians think that their land was divided,it was never their land only the land of the people ruling it and most of the great rulers either were Buddhist or Muslims .
The numbers of the kings attending the gatherings mentioned gives you an idea that how big the kingdom of that king would have been.


Some facts from infoplease.com

By 600 B.C., sixteen such territorial powers--including the Magadha, Kosala, Kuru, and Gandhara--stretched across the North India plains from modern-day Afghanistan to Bangladesh. The right of a king to his throne, no matter how it was gained, was usually legitimized through elaborate sacrifice rituals and genealogies concocted by priests who ascribed to the king divine or superhuman origins.
Maurya (mou'uryu) [key], ancient Indian dynasty, c.325c.183 B.C., founded by Chandragupta (Chandragupta Maurya). He conquered the Magadha kingdom and established his capital at Pataliputra (now Patna). His son, Bindusara (d. c.273), and his grandson, Asoka, the most notable ruler of ancient India, for the first time in history brought nearly all India, together with Afghanistan, under one rule. The culture of the Mauryan empire represents the first great flowering of Indian civilization, not to be equaled until the coming of the Gupta dynasty.(infoplease.com)
Harsha (hr'shu) [key], b. c.590, Indian emperor (60647). He became (606) king of a small state in the upper Ganges Valley, and by 612 he had built up a vast army with which he forged nearly all India N of the Narmada River into an empire. An extremely able military leader, his only defeat was at the hands of the Chalukyas, when he attempted (c.620) to invade the Deccan. His capital at Kanauj was an artistic and literary center, and Harsha himself was a distinguished poet and dramatist. A Hindu early in life, Harsha later became a devout Buddhist and forbade the killing of animals in his realm. He built innumerable stupas, established many monasteries, and founded several state hospitals. His great Buddhist convocation at Kanauj (643) was reputedly attended by 20 kings and thousands of pilgrims. The life and times of Harsha are described in the Harsha-charita, a flowery work by Bana, the court poet, and in the Si-yu-ki [records of the Western world] written by the Chinese pilgrim Hsan-tsang. After Harsha's death, N India relapsed into anarchy.

Following are sme excerpts from,http://adaniel.tripod.com/india-past.htm

Different parts of India have different histories and legends. Indians in different parts of the country look at their past from a different point of view than Indians in other parts of India. Indian history has a past of over thousands of years. The Hindus record their religious history at over millions of year. They believe that the world is created and destroyed every few million years. Religious Hindus and some Hindu historians record their present history at over 7000 years. This belief is different from the accepted general history which claims Indian history to be shorter than 5000 years.

In general Indian history different kingdoms were established in different parts of India, some by foreign invaders. The first known invaders of India were Aryans (also mentioned sometimes as Indo-Aryans). It is believed that the Aryans arrived in north India somewhere from Iran and southern Russia at around 1500 B. C. The Aryans fought and pushed the local people called Dravidians southwards. The Aryans are referred to in Indian history as fair skinned people who pushed the dark skinned Dravidians southwards (see also Aryans and Dravidians - a controversial issue

But never in Indian history was there a kingdom that ruled the whole of India. These different kingdoms that were established in different parts in India created different aspects of Indian history for different regions of India.


There were many other empires which were established at different periods in different parts of India and reigned over large parts of India. In south India the Vijayanagar Empire was established in the 14th century. In central India the Bahmani Empire was also established in the 14th century. Alongside with the empires, there were also small kingdoms which ruled on small parts of India. In present day Rajasthan there were many such kingdoms and their rulers belonged to the Rajput caste. The Rajputs even today symbolize the warrior castes of India. These kingdoms sometimes were completely independent and at other times acted as autonomies of bigger empires. Some of these kingdoms came into existence after a collapse of bigger empire and sometimes after a mutiny in a bigger empire. The Bahmani Empire broke up into five kingdoms. The world famous Moghul Empire from the Delhi-Agra region collapsed into many small kingdoms and into Maratha Empire.

The Moghuls are perhaps the most famous of the Indian Empires which ever existed. At their height they controlled the whole of north India, present day Pakistan and large parts of south India. In their empire they had many kings and rulers who were subjected to them. In west India, there were many local rulers who were subjected to the Moghul Empire. These rulers of West India were called Maratha (or Maharatha). Till the Moghul Empire, different Maratha rulers acted sometimes as independent rulers and at other times subjected to different larger kingdoms or empires including the Moghuls.
 
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sobia bb we r in 21 century khalazaan.yeh kon si kissagoi kar rahi. kuda k liye maan jao.ab aur bheja fry mat karo [wall]
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
pappufromindia said:
sobia bb we r in 21 century khalazaan.yeh kon si kissagoi kar rahi. kuda k liye maan jao.ab aur bheja fry mat karo [wall]

You should be the last one to worry about Bheja Fry, they won't find anything up yours when your turn comes.
Wonder how long mederators will allow this Pappu of mine to continue insulting this way.
Why does his responses keep appearing and mine are deleted?
 

true_pakistani

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Dear sobia

dont worry

these hindu baaniaa.........kaa kaam hai fact ko distort karna aur kuch nahi

n they r only........Maaa naa manoo
 

Star Gazer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
pappufromindia said:
sobia bb we r in 21 century khalazaan.yeh kon si kissagoi kar rahi. kuda k liye maan jao.ab aur bheja fry mat karo [wall]


Bheja fry? what do you mean by that? Are you loosing temper over some historical facts? Too bad!
"Those who do not remember history have to relive it"
 

niazi

MPA (400+ posts)
sobia403 said:
pappufromindia said:
sobia bb we r in 21 century khalazaan.yeh kon si kissagoi kar rahi. kuda k liye maan jao.ab aur bheja fry mat karo [wall]


Bheja fry? what do you mean by that? Are you loosing temper over some historical facts? Too bad!
"Those who do not remember history have to relive it"
These indians can never face reality,when ever we try to show them mirror they say that fault is in mirror.
 

Star Gazer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
pappufromindia said:
sobia bb we r in 21 century khalazaan.yeh kon si kissagoi kar rahi. kuda k liye maan jao.ab aur bheja fry mat karo [wall]


We and some indians are for sure in the 21st century but what about the 450 million untouchables? are they in the 21st century or still in 325 BC?
 

Star Gazer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Nepali Pandit said:
You have started giving somebody's free personal webpage as source. Tripod is free web hosting site I could type something today and post in in tripod, will you consider it as source.. At least use Wikipedia even though it is not reliable.


Now I have to ask you to open the parachute and come down on this earth to face the reality. If the history as described in the web page is not correct bring me evidence that it is otherwise OR accept the truth for you know that it is true.
 

Star Gazer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The one mistake that the muslims committed is that they made india as one big state by conquering all the small little estates ruled by the rajas and then ruled it for over 700 years thus giving the indians of present day india an ILLUSION of grandiosity in which they believe that india,their land was divided in 1947! Please takes a long hard look into facts and history and understand the confusion that has led to false belifs.
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
pappufromindia said:
sobia bb we r in 21 century khalazaan.yeh kon si kissagoi kar rahi. kuda k liye maan jao.ab aur bheja fry mat karo [wall]


pappau beta

agar tumharey paas bheja hota to tum bhy fry kartey!!! [hilar] [hilar]
 
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Guest

Guest
gazoomartian said:
pappufromindia said:
sobia bb we r in 21 century khalazaan.yeh kon si kissagoi kar rahi. kuda k liye maan jao.ab aur bheja fry mat karo [wall]


pappau beta

agar tumharey paas bheja hota to tum bhy fry kartey!!!

gazzu uncle

i love non-veg.i can,t resist when i see any bheja fry. [hilar]
sobia bb take care [funnny]
 

Red_Indian

Citizen
You are making this issue too complicated before 1947 from Sindh to Bangladesh from Kerla to Kashmir India was one Nation with different cultures and religions. Muslims in India campaigned for a separate country based on religion, votes were casted in a democratic manner and a new country emerged fair and square.

Your notion that we claim India was divided is a false one, if there are a few its a very tiny minority like Shiv Sena.

Significant population of the region converted from Hindus to Muslims. I know most claim that "their ancestors came from outside" it look good on their resume. The Indian civilization prior to 1947 is not part of their psyche and most of them have disowned it.

By the way you have done good work in describing history going back 6000 year you missed a fee regions like Panchall
 

adonis_look

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Red_Indian said:
You are making this issue too complicated before 1947 from Sindh to Bangladesh from Kerla to Kashmir India was one Nation with different cultures and religions. Muslims in India campaigned for a separate country based on religion, votes were casted in a democratic manner and a new country emerged fair and square.

Your notion that we claim India was divided is a false one, if there are a few its a very tiny minority like Shiv Sena.

Significant population of the region converted from Hindus to Muslims. I know most claim that "their ancestors came from outside" it look good on their resume. The Indian civilization prior to 1947 is not part of their psyche and most of them have disowned it.

By the way you have done good work in describing history going back 6000 year you missed a fee regions like Panchall

Even Shiv Sena will not give a dman if peace messengers like Qsab do not visit mumbai
 

Star Gazer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
adonis_look said:
[quote="Red_Indian":203ywybs]
Even Shiv Sena will not give a dman if peace messengers like Qsab do not visit mumbai
[/quote:203ywybs]


Don't you get it, WE do not care what rubbish you believe in because truth always wins.
 

desicad

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
sobia403 said:
adonis_look said:
[quote="Red_Indian":2owjyhc0]
Even Shiv Sena will not give a dman if peace messengers like Qsab do not visit mumbai


Don't you get it, WE do not care what rubbish you believe in because truth always wins.[/quote:2owjyhc0]
And the truth is that Kasab and his handlers were not peace messengers. Truth has already won, Pakistan govt. has charged about a dozen or so Pakistani citizens involved in 26/11 after denying it for long.
 

Star Gazer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
desicad said:
sobia403 said:
adonis_look said:
[quote="Red_Indian":wf8ssft7]
Even Shiv Sena will not give a dman if peace messengers like Qsab do not visit mumbai


Don't you get it, WE do not care what rubbish you believe in because truth always wins.
And the truth is that Kasab and his handlers were not peace messengers. Truth has already won, Pakistan govt. has charged about a dozen or so Pakistani citizens involved in 26/11 after denying it for long.[/quote:wf8ssft7]

And the truth is that the only time india was a united country was under the rule of the Muslims called Mughals for over 800 years, and then by the British. You guys are lucky.Be happy
 

desicad

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
sobia403 said:
desicad said:
sobia403 said:
adonis_look said:
[quote="Red_Indian":20k77kel]
Even Shiv Sena will not give a dman if peace messengers like Qsab do not visit mumbai


Don't you get it, WE do not care what rubbish you believe in because truth always wins.
And the truth is that Kasab and his handlers were not peace messengers. Truth has already won, Pakistan govt. has charged about a dozen or so Pakistani citizens involved in 26/11 after denying it for long.

And the truth is that the only time india was a united country was under the rule of the Muslims called Mughals for over 800 years, and then by the British. You guys are lucky.Be happy[/quote:20k77kel]
Thanks for your wishes.
The truth also is you and your ancestors were not mughals. They were Hindus and forcibly converted to islam by the rulers then.
 

adonis_look

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Pakistan as one entity never existed in past and it kept on chanigng hands in bts and pieces.. So I guess continuation of that part of history too should not be forgotten..

You see you can't cherry-pick history can you
 

adonis_look

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
idiots here are claiming Mughals ruled for 800 years.. at least do a gogle check before spouting nonsense..

here is total mughal period mind you not all of them were all pervading they were in btis and pieces that too in just north india but toal period itself is hardly 1526-1858

if you don;t know how to calculate let me help.. total becomes 325 years.. where the hell you get that number of 800years from...
 

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