Pakistan's secret dirty war in Baluchistan

[bons]

Some people have chosen to retaliate because they got it worse than others...

Then why are you trying to create an ethnic divide.

 

[bons]

And I think you are an idiot. Thats why you have a problem with diverse and dissenting opinion and unless people agree with your cranky version of events, you conveniently label them qadiani/kaffir/murtid/munafiq/CIA/RAW/Illuminati agent!

This thread is not just a dissenting opinion. It is clearly an anti Pakistan thread. You should be ashamed of yourself for writing such title.

 

[awan4ever]

Establishment is not Punjabi, they are opressing everyone, including Punjabis. Only few cities are developed in Punjab, rest of them are crying for resources.

Be careful and think before opening your mouth.

The establishment is made up largely of people from the Punjab. You can go about looking at it in any other way but that is the truth.
Secondly you should see what the aggrieved nation is saying. They blame the same cadre for their wretched condition.
I agree that Punjab is not really a gleaming beacon of prosperity but the people have been in a better position to act against the tyranny of the oppressive elite yet we have stood idly by and done nothing. So in essence people from amongst us not only oppressed us but also the Baluchis. If I were a Baluchi I wouldnt be soothed by this argument that 'oh we are also being oppressed by these people'. Well if you are then do something about it or we are going to try ourselves. That is the response the Baluchi nation is now giving. They are acting on their own and we can all sit here and condemn them as being 'agents' and 'ghaddars' and whatnot but the fact of the matter is this isnt anything new. We did the same in Bangladesh but the name calling didnt deter them. They went ahead and did what they had to to throw off the yolk of the oppressive West Pakistani establishment.
Once again we are repeating history. We are asking an oppressed minority to shut the hell up and bear the abuse that is being shelled out. If we dont think differently than we did back in 1971, do you seriously expect a different outcome?

 

[Wadaich]

Well truth hurts.................why r u hiding yourself behind islam like a hypocrite.

The strategies of hypocrites hiding behind Islam or Pakistani flag gets more lethal. And you know how the propaganda war works. A common man just gets emotional when he observes open lies and as much lies that it appears to be true. Western media's prapo.gan.da is case in point. A Mir Jaafar or Saadiq has no worries since he has already sold out his self respect, and is such a shameless person that you prove him 100 times wrong and shamelessly he shall come out with another sham answer. In the case of Baluchistan even a man with normal knowledge knows its importance due to the natural resources and strategic importance in the region. And all the forces which are up against Pakistan and China are desperate to destabilize it. Who are these forces, you need be a rocket scientist to identify them. Destabilization of Baluchistan means destabilization of Pakistan. Some people opine that Pak Army controls the economics of Pakistan and does take over when its economic interests are endangered. Even if you buy this story, shall this be in army's interest to enrage the people of Baluchistan. Moreover, which type of canals of milk and honey are flowing in Punjab? There is no difference between the elites of Pakistan, and same is true for the oppressed across the board. The Mir Jafars are activated to demoralize the nations. When you succeed in demoralization of nation. Half of the battle is one and target is softened. It is what is the role of trojan horses in 4th generation media warfare.

 

[awan4ever]

The strategies of hypocrites hiding behind Islam or Pakistani flag gets more lethal. And you know how the propaganda war works. A common man just gets emotional when he observes open lies and as much lies that it appears to be true. Western media's prapo.gan.da is case in point. A Mir Jaafar or Saadiq has no worries since he has already sold out his self respect, and is such a shameless person that you prove him 100 times wrong and shamelessly he shall come out with another sham answer. In the case of Baluchistan even a man with normal knowledge knows its importance due to the natural resources and strategic importance in the region. And all the forces which are up against Pakistan and China are desperate to destabilize it. Who are these forces, you need be a rocket scientist to identify them. Destabilization of Baluchistan means destabilization of Pakistan. Some people opine that Pak Army controls the economics of Pakistan and does take over when its economic interests are endangered. Even if you buy this story, shall this be in army's interest to enrage the people of Baluchistan. Moreover, which type of canals of milk and honey are flowing in Punjab? There is no difference between the elites of Pakistan, and same is true for the oppressed across the board. The Mir Jafars are activated to demoralize the nations. When you succeed in demoralization of nation. Half of the battle is one and target is softened. It is what is the role of trojan horses in 4th generation media warfare.

Right.
Everything is fine in Baluchistan. The writ of the government extends in all directions. No Baluchis are dying its just false reporting by hypocrites. The Baluchis dont hate the Punjabis (rightly or wrongly) and its all Mir Jafirs spreading hate.

One question. Why is the independent media not allowed to go into Baluchistan and report from there? Also why does the government refuse licenses to Baluchis to start their own language channel? What has the government got to hide that it doesnt want on the air waves?

How about you take a trip to Dera Bugti and see what is going on there?

Two of my friends from UET have disappeared. Good guys they were. Please find out what happened to them. Their families say the FC abducted them on route to the Sui Gas field where they worked.

 

[Wadaich]

Right.
Everything is fine in Baluchistan. The writ of the government extends in all directions. No Baluchis are dying its just false reporting by hypocrites. The Baluchis dont hate the Punjabis (rightly or wrongly) and its all Mir Jafirs spreading hate.

One question. Why is the independent media not allowed to go into Baluchistan and report from there? Also why does the government refuse licenses to Baluchis to start their own language channel? What has the government got to hide that it doesnt want on the air waves?

How about you take a trip to Dera Bugti and see what is going on there?

Two of my friends from UET have disappeared. Good guys they were. Please find out what happened to them. Their families say the FC abducted them on route to the Sui Gas field where they worked.

Why is Pakistan engaged in the dirty secret war in Baluchistan? What would they achieve by destabilizing Baluchistan, which they cannot in peaceful Baluchistan?

 

[awan4ever]

Why is Pakistan engaged in the dirty secret war in Baluchistan? What would they achieve by destabilizing Baluchistan, which they cannot in peaceful Baluchistan?

Always looking at the 'foreign' hand and never at the not so secret local hand.
IF you setup a mutinous entity within your own borders why in the world do you expect your enemies NOT to interfere and cash in on the situation??

Its like you cut a wound in your leg by yourself and then expect the germs to not infect it!

 

[hans]

Pictures says all ..... !!!!

 

[Wadaich]

Always looking at the 'foreign' hand and never at the not so secret local hand.
IF you setup a mutinous entity within your own borders why in the world do you expect your enemies NOT to interfere and cash in on the situation??

Its like you cut a wound in your leg by yourself and then expect the germs to not infect it!

Malik Sahib!
My question was very simple(serious)

 

[Wadaich]

Always looking at the 'foreign' hand and never at the not so secret local hand.
IF you setup a mutinous entity within your own borders why in the world do you expect your enemies NOT to interfere and cash in on the situation??

Its like you cut a wound in your leg by yourself and then expect the germs to not infect it!

You have a very good knowledge base, and always come up with some logic and facts regardless of there credibility. Please point out some of the mouth watering benefits Pak Army establishment shall wrap up by destabilizing Pakistan, which are not accessible in a stable Baluchistan and Pakistan?

 

[awan4ever]

You have a very good knowledge base, and always come up with some logic and facts regardless of there credibility. Please point out some of the mouth watering benefits Pak Army establishment shall wrap up by destabilizing Pakistan, which are not accessible in a stable Baluchistan and Pakistan?

Its not always about 'benefits'. Sometimes its about sheer incompetence.

 

[Wadaich]

Its not always about 'benefits'. Sometimes its about sheer incompetence.

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You mean as Thomas Hardy in his famous novel "Tess" says "As flies to wanton boys, are we to gods they kill us for their sport"???????????????

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[awan4ever]

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You mean as Thomas Hardy in his famous novel "Tess" says "As flies to wanton boys, are we to gods they kill us for their sport"???????????????

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Actually its from Shakespears King Lear.

I' th' last night's storm I such a fellow saw,
Which made me think a man a worm. My son
Came then into my mind, and yet my mind
Was then scarce friends with him. I have heard more
since.
As flies to wanton boys are we to th' gods,
They kill us for their sport.

King Lear Act 4-scene 1

And this is something that I can actually picture a Baluchi saying these days in light of what our security agencies are doing in their lands.

I dont know what context you used it in.

 

[Nangyale]

Europe is becoming a country from a continent and we want to divide each and everything, rather against the shaitan, we are fighting with our own blood , our own brothers. There is no nation except Islam, and we as a ummah must realize this. The land belongs to Allah and everything will be left here sooner or later. Pakistan came into being in the name of islam and Inshallah it will be forever no matter what the hypocrite western media and its machinery says.Everyone can see now, the truth is out there, they goes there only if they have some benefit from. Kashmir is burning but they have a blind eye to that. Dividing sudan was a quick decision cause it was hurting muslims and the list goes on and on.
Balochistan is a land of brave people and they have the power to vote. Change the regime with that, Pakistanis are now realizing their rights and now know how they were fooled. We are one nation.
The article was very disturbing, what was meant by saying "we are the most secular people of the region". And also killing innocent peoples is prohibited in Islam. Everyone have to answer and we will not be freed from the court of Allah by just saying they were killing us so we killed them or they were spies, without any solid proof it is strongly prohibited in case we call ourself muslims.

What the Holy Prophet Muhammad pbuh said about Asbiyat, everyone on this forum know very well. What i don't understand each and everytime, i heard a phrase "outsiders" or not locals. what this means. Those who lives there were always there or came directly from heaven. This is Allah's land and where we want we will live

Har mulk mulk-e-khuda ast


And still if want division than division never stops.

 

[usmanjee786]

Just on da based on da gardian ..............? Blochis r our pakistani bros do u know mr ...

 

[usmanjee786]

tumhain yeh likhtey hoe koe sharm nahii aye kiss dheet hadi kay ho blochis r our bros ....tum jaisey log wahaan koe progress nahii chahtey kiss agenday pey ho koee sherm karo tum bhii jantey ho maslaa kiaa hai meree boht see bloch dost hain main punjabi hoon lakin aj tak ham ne kabii nahi soochaa ..tum jaisay log iss donyaa main cancer ki terhaa hain ..... bloch tab tarakki karaikian gay jab gud education lain gay apney barey main sochoo nafrat phalaney walay insaan

Actually its from Shakespears King Lear.

I' th' last night's storm I such a fellow saw,
Which made me think a man a worm. My son
Came then into my mind, and yet my mind
Was then scarce friends with him. I have heard more
since.
As flies to wanton boys are we to th' gods,
They kill us for their sport.

King Lear Act 4-scene 1

And this is something that I can actually picture a Baluchi saying these days in light of what our security agencies are doing in their lands.

I dont know what context you used it in.

 

[awan4ever]

tumhain yeh likhtey hoe koe sharm nahii aye kiss dheet hadi kay ho blochis r our bros ....tum jaisey log wahaan koe progress nahii chahtey kiss agenday pey ho koee sherm karo tum bhii jantey ho maslaa kiaa hai meree boht see bloch dost hain main punjabi hoon lakin aj tak ham ne kabii nahi soochaa ..tum jaisay log iss donyaa main cancer ki terhaa hain ..... bloch tab tarakki karaikian gay jab gud education lain gay apney barey main sochoo nafrat phalaney walay insaan

Killing of your bros might not bother you but it does bother me.

The rest of your stuff has already been answered in my previous posts.

 

[awan4ever]

Orya Maqbool Jan

 

[Wadaich]

Actually its from Shakespears King Lear.

I' th' last night's storm I such a fellow saw,
Which made me think a man a worm. My son
Came then into my mind, and yet my mind
Was then scarce friends with him. I have heard more
since.
As flies to wanton boys are we to th' gods,
They kill us for their sport.

King Lear Act 4-scene 1

And this is something that I can actually picture a Baluchi saying these days in light of what our security agencies are doing in their lands.

I dont know what context you used it in.

Very humbly the mistake is admitted and am highly obliged for your kind correction. So far I remember the character "Gloucester" delivers it.
Actually, in critical appreciation of Hardy's "Tess", this quote was quoted for the miseries inflicted on Tess by so called tyrant Nature. :biggthumpup:

 

[samar]

And the actions of our establishment and security forces ARE speaking louder then the shallow words of their supporters like you...

Well its a lot better to be a supporter of establishment and security forces than a supporter of maloon kazab qadiani.