Pakistan me Jannati Drwaza???????????????????

[khan125]

@Khan125,
"the one who passes through the door will go to jannat", it is of no authority. Quran has clearly set guidelines. These type of things that "bashraat in Sleep" are far fetched. Quran states that the entry into Janat will not be according to Muslims or no Muslims DESIRES, but whosoever will believe and do good deeds......That does not include the phenom-on of "Bahasitee" drawaza. BTW what is meant by "Bahasit". Enlighten us. These sorts of practices have nothing to do with the reality. Waliallah neither can grant you Jannat nor he can withdraw it from from you. This is the discretion of ONLY ONE SUPREME.

Its our first priority to be sincere in our acts and our beliefs ,there is a proper method for achieving something and its always the best approach to follow that method ,I have no difference on that.
As for as weather an act can give someone jannat or not we are not final verdict on that.Its Allah who will decide.
If you don't believe in that then its your right nobody can force you.There was nothing about jannat mentioned in quran when Hazrat Ali r.a and Hazrat Abubakr r.a accepted Islam......you cannot say that jannat did not exist at that time bcs it was not mentioned in quran.Quran is not a book which is about geography and locations like atlas ,places do exist which are not mentioned in quran ,i don't find that in contradiction with Quran.
yes Good deeds are a key to jannat but good neyat is key to good deeds ,many good deeds will be rejected when checked on the bases of neyat.
And nobody is saying that if you don't pass through it you won't go to jannat its not like that its just for the sake of baraka its up to you .
you like to pass through it or not that will not have any effect on your right of jannat if you deserve it on your aamal.
you can google for bahisht :)
this practice shown was reality its not a drama.
If Allah gives someone this authority than he can but if Allah does not give someone this authority than no one can.
Only Allah is Almighty every power or authority if someone has is given by Allah no one has any personal authority or power.(by they way that was not point of discussion here)

 

[khan125]

I told you, you are a Maggot who lives in shit holes. another member here said that you are shit and if he throw stone in it his own clothes will get dirty. so a maggot who survive on others shit, only shit will come out of his mouth. khandan to tumhara sab ko pata chal giya hey.

MahAllah aapki zubaan vakaee bohut khoob ............
aap sab se sawal he
KIA ALLAH NE APNEY DEEN KI TABLEEGH K LIAEY AISEE ZUBANAIN MUNTAKHIB KRNEE HAIN(jesee aap tableeghi jamaat k afzal sahab ki mulahiza kr rahye hain)

aap ne sabit kr diya k aap vakaee tableeghi jamaat se hi talluk rakhtey hain shagird ko daikh kr andaza ho jata he k taleem kahan se hasil kee he.
I think i have proved k kia hakkoq ul ibaad sikhaeye jatey hain tum logo ko sab k samney hain, aiey hain hazrat gher muslimo ko tableegh krney

you said sometghing about tablighi jamaat and their women. let me tell you jinho nei haram karna hota hey woh 40 din ka intizar nehi karti hein,

aapko ziada pata ho ga .............:P

woh ghar mein keh key jati hein key pir sahib ko nazar o niaz deini hey. aur peer sahib phir khoob nazar o niaz laitey hein.And out put is something like you.

Konsey Pir sahab jo deobandion k akabereen k they unki izzat afzaiee kr rahey hain aap ya jinkey paas aapkey ghar valey jatey they unko bura bhala keh rahey hain.

shayad inhi burey tajrebaat ki vaja se aap lafz pir se itney mutanafir hain halankey tareekh daikhain to aapkey deoban k akabireen b yahi kaam krtey rahey.

merey khial me behtr hoga k tehkeek krain k kion deband me abb pir nhi kahen yahi kaam to nhi hota raha jiska aap ne zikr kia he.

me aap key dukh me barabr ka shareek hoo aisey Pir ko sar e aam saza denee chahey.vesey aajkal kia nizaam chalta he pehley to phir aik hi pir sahab hotey hongey aajkal parosion ko kharab kia jata he:(:(

chalin aap jo marze he kahein ye aapki tarbiat ka nateeja he jo aapko tarq jameel sahab ne dee he unhee so poochiey ga k aapki kitney baap hain ya koi ijtemaiey kam ka nateeja he vasey b aap hr kam ijtemaiey krney k adee hotey hain.

so watch your language budy. donj't teach your father how to f--k. when i was doing my masters degree you were still in liquid form of whom even your father don't know.
you foulmouthed against Maulana tariq jameel, Uleemae deoband tujhe sharam nehi atti zaat key cockroach.

[hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]Tablighi nanga ho gaya daikh lo bhai [hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]tableeghion ki asal haqeeqat[hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]

chalo cockroach hi sahi koi zaat to he hi kisi tableeghi ijtema ka nateeja to nhi:lol:

i think you said somewhere that you r from multan. every body knows what is most famous about multan. f---le pr-----tes that are supplied all over pakistan.

Kahein Raiwind me Ailaan to nhi hoa tha k me Multan se hoon.itna jhoot bola jata he ye b keh diya hoga(I am not from Multan)agar multan ka hota b to ye fakhr ki baat he sharm ki nhi.

Baki hr insaan ko apni field k barey me maloomaat hotee hain aap multaan b tableegh k liaey jatey hongey konsi tableegh krney jatey hain vo abb aap khud logo ko bta rahey hain me ne kuch nhi kaha.

jo bazaro admi hota hey us ko kissi key baap dada ki izaat ka pass nahi hota. so appologise from every body that you foul mouth against than we move forward. mujhe pata hey tujhey bohat mirchi lagey gaa is mail say or to khob gand boley ga. koi baat nahi mein us key jawab mein tujhey kuch nahi bolon ga. bas meiney tujhe teri is mail ka jawab dena tha.

Nai afzal sahab aapka kasoor nhi aapko abb sikhaya he yahi gaya he tu abb aapko kion koi mured e ilzaam thehraey.

vesey main ne aik post kee thee aapko izzat deney k liaey lakin shayad aapko izzat vali baat samhaj hi nhi atee ,usey parhney k baad b aapki tabiat kharab he to ye paidaishi fault he iska koi ilaaj nhi.

baree mehrbani jnab lakin shak hi he k aap kuch na bolain ya aap koi achi baat kaein chalain daikhtey hain.

 

[khan125]

Mr Khan and Malik!

Please do not fight , it is the matter of principle...

All these kind of traditions are not valid in Islam...according to Quran and Sunat.....

This is not worship of Allah Talla.....Please try to understand the meanin of our Kalam .

We need pure Islam ...

It is a matter of principal but when we are biased in our comment then its just point scoring nothing else.

Well Islam kisi ki zaati jageer nhi k vo uska thekedaar bn jaey what i am noticing on this forum that there is alot of hatred spread against a particular school of thought and no one says a word against it.its extreme hypocracy that we criticize others but we do not see our own actions.

quran o sunna se kia valid he kia nhi vo kisi post me mufti sahab k view para hoa he aapki marzi aap mantey ho ya nhi lakin agar aap kisi ko is tareekey se islam se utha kr ander bahir kro gey to agla b kal aapkey saath yahi kr sakta he.ore yahi hoga.

Pure islam k naam pe wahabiat jo k khud aik naiey bidat or firka he uska phelana hrgiz kabil e kabool nhi.hmain ye approach rakhnee chahey k na quran deoband pe utra he na bareli pe na najd pe quran makka madina me utra he ,is cheez pe mutafik hain to theek he agey chaltey hain nhi to phir behtr ye he apney jo aqaid hain vo apney paas rakho dosro pe tankeed krogey to jawabi tankeed b hogee.its natural.

 

[Muhammad Afzal]

MahAllah aapki zubaan vakaee bohut khoob ............
aap sab se sawal he
KIA ALLAH NE APNEY DEEN KI TABLEEGH K LIAEY AISEE ZUBANAIN MUNTAKHIB KRNEE HAIN(jesee aap tableeghi jamaat k afzal sahab ki mulahiza kr rahye hain)

aap ne sabit kr diya k aap vakaee tableeghi jamaat se hi talluk rakhtey hain shagird ko daikh kr andaza ho jata he k taleem kahan se hasil kee he.
I think i have proved k kia hakkoq ul ibaad sikhaeye jatey hain tum logo ko sab k samney hain, aiey hain hazrat gher muslimo ko tableegh krney



aapko ziada pata ho ga .............:P



Konsey Pir sahab jo deobandion k akabereen k they unki izzat afzaiee kr rahey hain aap ya jinkey paas aapkey ghar valey jatey they unko bura bhala keh rahey hain.

shayad inhi burey tajrebaat ki vaja se aap lafz pir se itney mutanafir hain halankey tareekh daikhain to aapkey deoban k akabireen b yahi kaam krtey rahey.

merey khial me behtr hoga k tehkeek krain k kion deband me abb pir nhi kahen yahi kaam to nhi hota raha jiska aap ne zikr kia he.

me aap key dukh me barabr ka shareek hoo aisey Pir ko sar e aam saza denee chahey.vesey aajkal kia nizaam chalta he pehley to phir aik hi pir sahab hotey hongey aajkal parosion ko kharab kia jata he:(:(

chalin aap jo marze he kahein ye aapki tarbiat ka nateeja he jo aapko tarq jameel sahab ne dee he unhee so poochiey ga k aapki kitney baap hain ya koi ijtemaiey kam ka nateeja he vasey b aap hr kam ijtemaiey krney k adee hotey hain.



[hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]Tablighi nanga ho gaya daikh lo bhai [hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]tableeghion ki asal haqeeqat[hilar][hilar][hilar][hilar]

chalo cockroach hi sahi koi zaat to he hi kisi tableeghi ijtema ka nateeja to nhi:lol:



Kahein Raiwind me Ailaan to nhi hoa tha k me Multan se hoon.itna jhoot bola jata he ye b keh diya hoga(I am not from Multan)agar multan ka hota b to ye fakhr ki baat he sharm ki nhi.

Baki hr insaan ko apni field k barey me maloomaat hotee hain aap multaan b tableegh k liaey jatey hongey konsi tableegh krney jatey hain vo abb aap khud logo ko bta rahey hain me ne kuch nhi kaha.



Nai afzal sahab aapka kasoor nhi aapko abb sikhaya he yahi gaya he tu abb aapko kion koi mured e ilzaam thehraey.

vesey main ne aik post kee thee aapko izzat deney k liaey lakin shayad aapko izzat vali baat samhaj hi nhi atee ,usey parhney k baad b aapki tabiat kharab he to ye paidaishi fault he iska koi ilaaj nhi.

baree mehrbani jnab lakin shak hi he k aap kuch na bolain ya aap koi achi baat kaein chalain daikhtey hain.

I never wanted to reply, but your change of language forced me. That proof that people like you only understand danda. Aab bara soober bantey ho. aap, janab, sahib wah bhai pehley kahan gia yeh ada. apni post khud deikho. her bandey ko tonay gand bola. foran baap aur khandan par boltey ho. Tumharaey liye eik special thread prepare kar raha hon. InshALlah it will take time but don't worry tum jo tablighi ko bora kehtey ho apney qaideen ki kitabon mein pehley dekho woh kitna gand lekhtey hein.

 

[khan125]

I never wanted to reply, but your change of language forced me. That proof that people like you only understand danda. Aab bara soober bantey ho. aap, janab, sahib wah bhai pehley kahan gia yeh ada. apni post khud deikho. her bandey ko tonay gand bola. foran baap aur khandan par boltey ho. Tumharaey liye eik special thread prepare kar raha hon. InshALlah it will take time but don't worry tum jo tablighi ko bora kehtey ho apney qaideen ki kitabon mein pehley dekho woh kitna gand lekhtey hein.

jal gaiee lakin bull nahi gaey(clap)(clap)(clap)

No its a proof that i have a DANDA also jo baat se na samjhey uskey liaey kia khial he.;);)

lagta he tumhain merey bradarana batoon ki abi tk samhaj nhi aiee.

agar koi baat kisi pe keechar uchalney k liaey kee to phir jawab khoob miley ga haan agar respectful tareekey se baat ki to respectful tareekey se jawab miley ga.

ye ghunda gardi vali approach bhool jao k tum hmain katehrey me khara kr k sawal poochtey jao gey ore me jee hazoor kr k jawab deta rahoonga.

shayad tumhain apna chehra nazar aa hi gaya hoga lakin apni lassi ko kon khatta kehta he.

me ne argument hi ye diya tha k tum tableeghion ka kaam sirf or sirf musalmano ko deobandi aqauid ki tableegh krna he ore tum logo ki zuban pe jee jee he lakin diloon me bughz ore nafrat bharee hoee he.

tum ne proof manga.........Allah ka krna aisa hoa k tum ne khud hi apni post se meree baat ko sach sabit kr diya.
is post me b tum isi bughz or nafrat jo aap logo k dilon me bharee hoee he usi ka izhaar kr rahey ho.

tum ne kaha Piri mureedi ghalat he ,gumrahi he ,shirkia he.
me ne kaha k deoband k akabireen b piri mureedi k kail they to vo phir kia sahih tha?

tum ne kaha k barelvi angrezo ne khareedey.
me ne kaha k barelvio ne to aqeeda change nhi kia aqeedey ki change to deobandion me aiey he haji imdad ullah mahajir makki tk to sab theek tha.

tum ne ilzaam tarashi kee me ne sirf minimum jawab diey ta k aik nazar apney garebaan me b jhaank lo.

yahi shoke he jnab ka to poora kr lain kitabain bharee paree hain me to is liaey avoid krta hoon k is se sirf nafratain phailtee hain lakin shayad aapko ye aihsaas kisi ne diya nhi.(yapping)(yapping)

 

[ghias]

i think this discussion is useless as all of you are talking dirty to prove their points. I hope all of you should talk on the matter rather talking dirty . Thanks