Pakistan me Jannati Drwaza???????????????????

[aqeel813]

but if you asked him what type of education do you recommend for them ........answer would have been follow our views of islam.that what education means here. 2-3 main madrassaas in Karachi are main breeding grounds for TTP leaders and extreemist minded people but no one speaks about them no one says anything about their actions against islam no body recommends education for them.hypocracy!!!!!

o bhai! kya ho gya ha? kis taraf le gay ho iss sari cheez ko. Mujay charha do yar suuli pe. mein ne ghalti ker di education ki bat ker k. Kis school of thought ki bat ker rahay ho. mein ne to shayd iss banday ko dekha e pehli bar ha. mje to iss ka nam b isi thread mein pata chla ha kisi ki post se. mein ne to ghlti se itna keh diya k bhai buldozer chlanay ki kya tuq ha. oun Allah k naik bandun ka kya qasoor ha jinhon ne apni zindagian islam k nam pe waqf ker din aur jo wahan meethi neend so rahay hen. logon ko achay buray ki tameez sikha do baqi oun pe chord do. aur janab achay buray se meri murad koi specific school of thought nai ha sir. Lekin ye beemari wese e badi purani ha yahan. koi aap ki merzi k khilaf zara c bat kya ker de foran ous pe dosray firqay ka honay ka thappa lga do. wese koi masjid sanbhal lo. sari khubian hen tum mein. education ki to bat iss liay ker di k ye log deen k nam b masoom awam ki jaibain loot rahay hen ye zyada ter derbaron k so called gaddi nasheen. ab jo banda "syed" yousuf raza gilani ya "Makhdoom" shah mehmood qureshi k qadmon ko aa k chummay to ous se bada aqalmand kon ho ga iss dunya mein. aur bhai mehrbani ker k zara apnay lehjay ko e thoda naram ker lo.

 

[khan125]

o bhai! kya ho gya ha? kis taraf le gay ho iss sari cheez ko. Mujay charha do yar suuli pe. mein ne ghalti ker di education ki bat ker k. Kis school of thought ki bat ker rahay ho. mein ne to shayd iss banday ko dekha e pehli bar ha. mje to iss ka nam b isi thread mein pata chla ha kisi ki post se. mein ne to ghlti se itna keh diya k bhai buldozer chlanay ki kya tuq ha. oun Allah k naik bandun ka kya qasoor ha jinhon ne apni zindagian islam k nam pe waqf ker din aur jo wahan meethi neend so rahay hen. logon ko achay buray ki tameez sikha do baqi oun pe chord do. aur janab achay buray se meri murad koi specific school of thought nai ha sir. Lekin ye beemari wese e badi purani ha yahan. koi aap ki merzi k khilaf zara c bat kya ker de foran ous pe dosray firqay ka honay ka thappa lga do. wese koi masjid sanbhal lo. sari khubian hen tum mein. education ki to bat iss liay ker di k ye log deen k nam b masoom awam ki jaibain loot rahay hen ye zyada ter derbaron k so called gaddi nasheen. ab jo banda "syed" yousuf raza gilani ya "Makhdoom" shah mehmood qureshi k qadmon ko aa k chummay to ous se bada aqalmand kon ho ga iss dunya mein. aur bhai mehrbani ker k zara apnay lehjay ko e thoda naram ker lo.

hahahahaha.......................koi nai yaar maaf kia lol...........
sahih keh rahey ho aap i misunderstood......ab khush(clap)(clap)

 

[Knowledge Seeker]

Mufti's view about Jannati Darwaza:

[video]http://mufti.faizaneattar.net/Answer.php?Q=7599[/video]

 

[Malik495]

Mann k qadmo me jannat kion he kabi soch he,Hajj me aisee konsi khaas baat he jo sarey gunahoon se insaan Pak ho jata he, TUM NE APNA GOBAR VALA BHARA HOA DABBA USE KR K.
momin ki qabr jannat k bagho me se aik baagh he kia ye nhi parha tum ne APNA GOBAR SE BHARA HOA DABBA USE KR K.
uskey darwazey ko kia jannat ka darwaza kehna ghalt he...........???????


Abey oo dhakkan shayad tujhey pechus lagg gaiey hain tujhey pait kharab ki golee deta hoon sabr kr.

me ne yahi kaha he k kisi aik cheez ko pakr leney se islam mukammal nhi hota sab cheezo pe amal zroori he.

Is me Allah ki khatir mohabat or Allah ki khatir nafrat b shamil he.koi asani ho ya koi mushkil denn me ne nhi bnaya Allah ne bnaya he.usi ne shab e qadr b rakhi jisko hzaar maheeno ki ibadat se afzal kaha usi ne rozana ki abidaat b rakhain ye uski marzi he.
usi ne jihad me shaheed honey valo ko jannat ki khushkhabri dee usi ne valedain ko muhabat se daikhney valo ko jannat ki khushkhabri dee.

Barkain to baree maree hain lakin kuch sabit nhi kr sakey Quran o Hadyt se.
JAO JA KR SUPREME COURT YA SHARIAT COURT ME CASE DAKHIL KRVAO K YE DARWAZA JANATI KAISEY HO GAYA...........YE KOI AAJ SE NAHI KAIE SADION SE HE.



Tauseef ur rehman to khud saabka shia he??????
ye he b do no .FAKE syed ??
isi k imam ibn e taymia k fatwey k mutabik apni waldiat change krney vala kafir he...
ye baat to hadyt p base krtee he...........
abb btao Quran o hadyt k mutabik aik Kafir(jisney apni waldiat/qomiat change kee vo kafir he ba mutabik imam ibn e tamia) uski daleelain sun kr musalmano ko mushrik or bidati kehna kia he ba mutabik quran o hadyt.

Na meree jaan buree lagee to tera ghar ajaon ga koi masla nhi uska darwaza to hr wakt khula hi rehta he......

Maaf krna mujhe nahi pata tha main kis haji sanaullah k moonh lag raha tha.. bahas krnay pe aaon to teri aik aik daleel pe kaee hazar daleelain de skta hon... pr tere baat krnay k andaz se lagta hay tujh se bahas krna yun hay jasay keechar men pathar phainkna k cheentain urr kr mujhe hi lagain gi ..
Hazrat Umar (Raziallah ta'ala anhu) ne wo darakht jar se ukharwa dia tha jis k neechay bait-e-rizwan hoi thi.. kuch log uss k neechay ahtamam k saath namazain parhnay lag gaye thay.. Hazrat Umar(R.A) ne iss ki yeh daleel di thi jis ka mafhoom yeh hay k aaj tum iss k neechay barkat k liye namazain parh rahay ho kal log iss darakht ki pooja krnay lag jayen gay..
ab bata tu apnay extra genius pathan(muaaf krna khan k paas kitna demagh hota hay yeh sab jantay hain) demagh ko use kr k Hazrat Umar(R.A) ne aisa kion kaha.. tera yeh bahishti darwaza na to sahaba k daur men tha na taba tabaeen k daur men.. kis ki himmat ho gaee jannati darwaza bananay ki aur kis ne yeh bidat shuru ki? hay koi jawab.. kisi ibadat k fazael bayan kr k bahishti darwazay k haq honay ka suboot kahan se lay aya tu? bahas krni ho to daleel se baat krni hoti hay bayhooda gufutgu krni hay to jaa k kisi apnay jasay khan ko dhond..
now getlost..

 

[khan125]

Maaf krna mujhe nahi pata tha main kis haji sanaullah k moonh lag raha tha.. bahas krnay pe aaon to teri aik aik daleel pe kaee hazar daleelain de skta hon... pr tere baat krnay k andaz se lagta hay tujh se bahas krna yun hay jasay keechar men pathar phainkna k cheentain urr kr mujhe hi lagain gi ..
Hazrat Umar (Raziallah ta'ala anhu) ne wo darakht jar se ukharwa dia tha jis k neechay bait-e-rizwan hoi thi.. kuch log uss k neechay ahtamam k saath namazain parhnay lag gaye thay.. Hazrat Umar(R.A) ne iss ki yeh daleel di thi jis ka mafhoom yeh hay k aaj tum iss k neechay barkat k liye namazain parh rahay ho kal log iss darakht ki pooja krnay lag jayen gay..
ab bata tu apnay extra genius pathan(muaaf krna khan k paas kitna demagh hota hay yeh sab jantay hain) demagh ko use kr k Hazrat Umar(R.A) ne aisa kion kaha.. tera yeh bahishti darwaza na to sahaba k daur men tha na taba tabaeen k daur men.. kis ki himmat ho gaee jannati darwaza bananay ki aur kis ne yeh bidat shuru ki? hay koi jawab.. kisi ibadat k fazael bayan kr k bahishti darwazay k haq honay ka suboot kahan se lay aya tu? bahas krni ho to daleel se baat krni hoti hay bayhooda gufutgu krni hay to jaa k kisi apnay jasay khan ko dhond..
now getlost..

Tum Malko ka b pata he kitney panee me ho koi aik tareekh me aisa kam ginvao jis pe fakhr kr sako.
chal chore me zaat paat qaum bradari pe baat nhi krta shayad tujhey yahi sikhaya gaya he.
apney awkaat daikh ore batain daikh zara apni shakl daikh baad me kisi ko kuch kehna bara aya naseehatain krney vala.
tera kaam hi kechar uchalna he tujhey kia parwa apni ore paree izzat ki MALIK sahab.

logo ko pakistan se mohabat ho jaey to pakistan pe atom bomb phaink do kio kionkey hazrat umer ne drakht katwa diya tha.
kia idher udher ki maar raha he.
koiee daikh shoiab malik jesa bazaree malik us k saath teree khobe guzrey gee.
khan k paas kia hota he ye b jantey ho gey ana parey ga terey ghar b.
rehman malik k ristey daar Qadeer khan ka naam suna hoga ,firdus ashiq awan ka naam b suna hoga mashAllah bara dimaagh he rehman bhai ore firdous anty ka.

tera bara dil kr raha he tu ja kr darwaza ukhaar le agar himmat he agar vakaiee mard ka bacha he begharat buzdil nhi to ukhar de gira de ore daleel b de dena vesey b terey paas hazaro daleelain hain.

 

[Peaceful]

Mufti's view about Jannati Darwaza:

[video]http://mufti.faizaneattar.net/Answer.php?Q=7599[/video]

@knowledge Seekering,

I am wondering how would you be able to seek knowledge if you follow the Mufti in the above URL who is saying Ayain Baiyan Shayen but is not condemning so called "Bahishti darwaza". Your so called Mufti also seems to be convinced that the so called Bahisti Darwaza" is key to Janat.

 

[babadeena]

وَسِيقَ الَّذِينَ اتَّقَوْا رَبَّهُمْ إِلَى الْجَنَّةِ زُمَرًا حَتَّى إِذَا جَاؤُوهَا وَفُتِحَتْ أَبْوَابُهَا وَقَالَ لَهُمْ خَزَنَتُهَا سَلَامٌ عَلَيْكُمْ طِبْتُمْ فَادْخُلُوهَا خَالِدِينَ
اور جو لوگ اپنے رب سے ڈرتے رہے انہیں (بھی) جنّت کی طرف گروہ در گروہ لے جایا جائے گا، یہاں تک کہ جب وہ اس (جنّت) کے پاس پہنچیں گے اور اُس کے دروازے (پہلے ہی) کھولے جا چکے ہوں گے تو اُن سے وہاں کے نگران (خوش آمدید کرتے ہوئے) کہیں گے: تم پر سلام ہو، تم خوش و خرّم رہو سو ہمیشہ رہنے کے لئے اس میں داخل ہو جا

Well Quran says that people will enter into Janat "for Ever" (Khalideen), whereas in this fraud people come and go. This is total non-sense and it is nothing to do with any sect, but it is utter non-sense and contrary to Quranic Teaching.

 

[Knowledge Seeker]

@knowledge Seekering,

I am wondering how would you be able to seek knowledge if you follow the Mufti in the above URL who is saying Ayain Baiyan Shayen but is not condemning so called "Bahishti darwaza". Your so called Mufti also seems to be convinced that the so called Bahisti Darwaza" is key to Janat.

I appreciate your comments so if you are interested to discuss then please let me know what is your understanding about Tassawwaff (Sufism)?? How credible for you are People of Tassawwaff (e.g., Hadhrat Abdul Qadir Jilani, Hadhrat Baba Farid, Hadhrat Nizam ud din Auliya,..)??

I hope that you do not support Mr. Tauseef ur Rehman and his group who spread hatred against Tassawwaff in order to, show loyality to Al-e-Saud and justify their disgraceful actions of demolition of shrines of Sahab Karam (May Allah Please with them).In fact, They do not stop here but also declare the Taqleed in Fiqh of Imams(i.e. Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Shafa’i, Imam Malik, Imam Ahmed bin Hunbal) as Shirk. Do you???

I will be looking forward for your response about my Queries in order to go ahead for discussion.

 

[khan125]

@knowledge Seekering,

I am wondering how would you be able to seek knowledge if you follow the Mufti in the above URL who is saying Ayain Baiyan Shayen but is not condemning so called "Bahishti darwaza". Your so called Mufti also seems to be convinced that the so called Bahisti Darwaza" is key to Janat.

Would you please tell us which mufties should be followed and which ones should be avoided.

By the way jo hmaree pasand ka jawab na de vo mufti sahih nhi hota kia khial he aapka sahih keh raha hoon main???????

I think he clearly explained it with reference to shariat............aap kuch ore sun na chatey they ya aapki marzi ka jawab mufti sahab ne nhi diya to aap ne keh diya jee mufti sahab ko to kuch pata nhi nhi fake mufti he bhai.

jbb aap apney aapko hi mufti e Azam of Islam samhajtey ho to phir to mushkil he k aapko kisi k baat se ittefaak ho jaey.

vesey konsi baat mufti sahab ne ghalat kahee kia aap apney deeni ilm se kuch hmarey saath share krna pasand krain gey.???????

 

[khan125]

وَسِيقَ الَّذِينَ اتَّقَوْا رَبَّهُمْ إِلَى الْجَنَّةِ زُمَرًا حَتَّى إِذَا جَاؤُوهَا وَفُتِحَتْ أَبْوَابُهَا وَقَالَ لَهُمْ خَزَنَتُهَا سَلَامٌ عَلَيْكُمْ طِبْتُمْ فَادْخُلُوهَا خَالِدِينَ
اور جو لوگ اپنے رب سے ڈرتے رہے انہیں (بھی) جنّت کی طرف گروہ در گروہ لے جایا جائے گا، یہاں تک کہ جب وہ اس (جنّت) کے پاس پہنچیں گے اور اُس کے دروازے (پہلے ہی) کھولے جا چکے ہوں گے تو اُن سے وہاں کے نگران (خوش آمدید کرتے ہوئے) کہیں گے: تم پر سلام ہو، تم خوش و خرّم رہو سو ہمیشہ رہنے کے لئے اس میں داخل ہو جا

Well Quran says that people will enter into Janat "for Ever" (Khalideen), whereas in this fraud people come and go. This is total non-sense and it is nothing to do with any sect, but it is utter non-sense and contrary to Quranic Teaching.

I challenge you its has no contradiction with Quran.
Problem is that you did not understood or you were totally fooled by this hate monger ,behooda and gustaakh molvi tauseef ur rehman.
No one says that it is the door of the jannat ,doors of the jannat are were jannat is not any where else.
its called behashti darwaza ..........reason being narrated (by knowledge seeker http://mufti.faizaneattar.net/Answer.php?Q=7599) in post above.the one who passes through the door will go to jannat............after qayamat.
I think it will be clear to you know that its not the real door to jannat as you mentioned in your reference no one believes it as that.
jannat and dauzakh will be decided for humans by their aamaal and Allah's will thats the bottom line i think it will be clear to you if you listen to the link above.
Wheras as you are mixing it with door of jannat its not like that

 

[Muhammad Afzal]

Dear Malik495 ; Bons ; Aqeel813 ; Ghias Asslam-o-alikum

you know when i came to this forum i thought it will be a good learning experience for me. A constructive criticism will be good to learn from each other. But sorry to say i never knew that some paand and marassi also share the same forum. Who just sit there like a fox, and watch for any thread against their beliefs and they will open their filthy mouth without even realising that people from all over the world are watching. just for an example go through this thread's posts and see what kind of language is used by some members. you feel is if you r sitting in Alhamara open air theatre and listening to the vulgar language of some of the pands of stage.
you give some dalil and the reply will come in such a Jahil way that you feel like hitting your head with the wall. As is obvious in this thread. no supporter of this sect condemn that it was bad, and it should be banned. but instead every effort was made to put other people down by irrelevent arguments. so just sit back and relax and see what jugglery some of these clowns perform to support their views. They like this stupid Taseef ur rehman believe that they are the only firqa going to janat rest every body is kafir. And when Allah will expose reality to them they will say why we did not listen to it when Haque was told to us.
Now watch and see the reply to my mail.

 

[khan125]

Dear Malik495 ; Bons ; Aqeel813 ; Ghias Asslam-o-alikum

you know when i came to this forum i thought it will be a good learning experience for me. A constructive criticism will be good to learn from each other. But sorry to say i never knew that some paand and marassi also share the same forum. Who just sit there like a fox, and watch for any thread against their beliefs and they will open their filthy mouth without even realising that people from all over the world are watching. just for an example go through this thread's posts and see what kind of language is used by some members. you feel is if you r sitting in Alhamara open air theatre and listening to the vulgar language of some of the pands of stage.
you give some dalil and the reply will come in such a Jahil way that you feel like hitting your head with the wall. As is obvious in this thread. no supporter of this sect condemn that it was bad, and it should be banned. but instead every effort was made to put other people down by irrelevent arguments. so just sit back and relax and see what jugglery some of these clowns perform to support their views. They like this stupid Taseef ur rehman believe that they are the only firqa going to janat rest every body is kafir. And when Allah will expose reality to them they will say why we did not listen to it when Haque was told to us.
Now watch and see the reply to my mail.

wah bhai ulta chore kotwaal ko dantey...........................

tableeghion valey thread me merey pochey hoey sawaloon ka jawab na de sakey yahan dramey bazi kr rahey ho.

jao jaa kr pehley un sawalaat ka jawab de marasion ki to shayad koi kaom ho gee kuch beghare baap k b hotey hain jo daleel to na de sakain lakin galion pe utar atey hain.

baree debate krnee he to us thread me debate kro jahan challenge kia tha k tum bhaag giey merey sawalo ka jawab do lakin jb me ne jawabo k saath mazeed sawalaat kiaey to dum dba kr bhaag gaey.

abb yahan aakr bazaree zubaan use krna shuru kr dee pehley apney garebaaan main jhanko phir doosro pe ungli uthao.

yaar afsoos he kisi marasi ki awlaad ne is tauseef ur rehman ko condemn nhi kia balkey sab apney dil ka bughz nikal rahey hain aik khaas firkey k against.sharam anee chahey.

Bs bohut ho gaya ,bohut faida utha lia tum logo ne narmi ka.tum log khud to dehshat gardoon k madrassey bnao deen k naam pe dehshat gardi sikhao or firka variat phelao us vakt koi marasi ki awlaad nhi bolta lakin barelvio pr koi baat aiey to logo k zatee fail ko barelvion pe thaop detey ho.

tumhain kis ne deen ka thekedaar bnaya he jao jaa kr alhamra me apna khandani kaam kro.barey aiey criticism krney valey apney oooper to aik lafz bardasht nhi hota dosro pe critisicm krnaey aya he.

vo wakt gaya k log sharafat me chup ho jatey they abb nhi tum logo ne hdd hi cross kr de bs bohut ho gaya.criticism krnee he to apney ooper kro doosro pe criticism kro gey to vo b tumharey ooper krey ga.

vesey btaya nhi k deobandion k akabiron ne to piree mureedi kee aaj kion piree mureedi haram ho gaee????????????

Apney alfaaz ko zara ghore se parho phir kisi k ooper ungli uthaney ki himmat kro.
Plz jo naam apney abba jaan k liaey piyaar se use krtey ho vo kisi ore ko na kaho log mind krtey hain.

 

[Malik495]

Dear Malik495 ; Bons ; Aqeel813 ; Ghias Asslam-o-alikum

you know when i came to this forum i thought it will be a good learning experience for me. A constructive criticism will be good to learn from each other. But sorry to say i never knew that some paand and marassi also share the same forum. Who just sit there like a fox, and watch for any thread against their beliefs and they will open their filthy mouth without even realising that people from all over the world are watching. just for an example go through this thread's posts and see what kind of language is used by some members. you feel is if you r sitting in Alhamara open air theatre and listening to the vulgar language of some of the pands of stage.
you give some dalil and the reply will come in such a Jahil way that you feel like hitting your head with the wall. As is obvious in this thread. no supporter of this sect condemn that it was bad, and it should be banned. but instead every effort was made to put other people down by irrelevent arguments. so just sit back and relax and see what jugglery some of these clowns perform to support their views. They like this stupid Taseef ur rehman believe that they are the only firqa going to janat rest every body is kafir. And when Allah will expose reality to them they will say why we did not listen to it when Haque was told to us.
Now watch and see the reply to my mail.

Dear brother Muahammad Afzal..
I am sorry i think i became rude aswell.. but if you see from start all post of so called Khan sahib .. you will realise what kind of language he is using againt everyone.. its not his fault as we all know.. no need to talk to him further.. anyway will try not to be rude again with these kind of ..
take care brother..

 

[khan125]

Dear Friends i have no heart feelings against anyone and i apologize if i hurt someone ,its just a hot discussion nothing personal.

As long as we keep ourselves away from promoting hate and respect each other such scenarios will never occur but when we only think that we are right and the one who dis agrees with us is wrong ,start targeting others beliefs ,dat will only provoke people ,vesey mera mashwara he kabi live kisi se isterha ki guftago mut krna .

Discussion ka aik asool hota he vo ye k argument k 3 pehlo hotey hain aik aapka doosra mera ore teesra sahih pehlo.jb tk hm sahih aim nhi bnaien to kabi b discussion nhi ho sakti.
me apney argument ko pakrey rakho aap apney ko masla sachaee tk pohanchna nhi blkey apni zaati ana ho to phir koi discussion nhi hotee.

Is liaey meree guzarish he k doosro ka ihteraam krain gey to aapka koi aihteraam krey ga aap logo k faith ka mazaak urain agla aap ko galey me haar nhi pehnaiey ga.
Sharafat apni jaga hotee he lakin jb koi aapkey ghar me kood aiey to usko phir proper responce dena perta he verna ghalti krney valey ko ghalti k ihsaas nhi hota (jo dilana zroori he) ore chup rehney vala begharto me shamil hota he.

Merey dost ne nasal pe baat kee to me sirf itna hi kehta hota hoon k ye intehaee fazool behs he or bs.
ye Allah ki marzi he k us ne mujhey ore aapko aik achey khandaan me paida kia vo chahta to hm aik chakley main b aankh khool saktey they.
is me gharoor sharam ya bara chota honey valee baat hi koi nhi bs Allah ka shukr ada krna chahey.

I hope aap meree bradarana ilteja pe ghore krain gey ore ainda aik dosrey k views ko due respect daingey.

 

[babadeena]

I challenge you its has no contradiction with Quran.
Problem is that you did not understood or you were totally fooled by this hate monger ,behooda and gustaakh molvi tauseef ur rehman.
No one says that it is the door of the jannat ,doors of the jannat are were jannat is not any where else.
its called behashti darwaza ..........reason being narrated (by knowledge seeker http://mufti.faizaneattar.net/Answer.php?Q=7599) in post above.the one who passes through the door will go to jannat............after qayamat.
I think it will be clear to you know that its not the real door to jannat as you mentioned in your reference no one believes it as that.
jannat and dauzakh will be decided for humans by their aamaal and Allah's will thats the bottom line i think it will be clear to you if you listen to the link above.
Wheras as you are mixing it with door of jannat its not like that

@Khan125,
"the one who passes through the door will go to jannat", it is of no authority. Quran has clearly set guidelines. These type of things that "bashraat in Sleep" are far fetched. Quran states that the entry into Janat will not be according to Muslims or no Muslims DESIRES, but whosoever will believe and do good deeds......That does not include the phenom-on of "Bahasitee" drawaza. BTW what is meant by "Bahasit". Enlighten us. These sorts of practices have nothing to do with the reality. Waliallah neither can grant you Jannat nor he can withdraw it from from you. This is the discretion of ONLY ONE SUPREME.

 

[Raaz]

Mr Khan and Malik!

Please do not fight , it is the matter of principle...

All these kind of traditions are not valid in Islam...according to Quran and Sunat.....

This is not worship of Allah Talla.....Please try to understand the meanin of our Kalam .

We need pure Islam ...

 

[Muhammad Afzal]

wah bhai ulta chore kotwaal ko dantey...........................

tableeghion valey thread me merey pochey hoey sawaloon ka jawab na de sakey yahan dramey bazi kr rahey ho.

jao jaa kr pehley un sawalaat ka jawab de marasion ki to shayad koi kaom ho gee kuch beghare baap k b hotey hain jo daleel to na de sakain lakin galion pe utar atey hain.

baree debate krnee he to us thread me debate kro jahan challenge kia tha k tum bhaag giey merey sawalo ka jawab do lakin jb me ne jawabo k saath mazeed sawalaat kiaey to dum dba kr bhaag gaey.

abb yahan aakr bazaree zubaan use krna shuru kr dee pehley apney garebaaan main jhanko phir doosro pe ungli uthao.

yaar afsoos he kisi marasi ki awlaad ne is tauseef ur rehman ko condemn nhi kia balkey sab apney dil ka bughz nikal rahey hain aik khaas firkey k against.sharam anee chahey.

Bs bohut ho gaya ,bohut faida utha lia tum logo ne narmi ka.tum log khud to dehshat gardoon k madrassey bnao deen k naam pe dehshat gardi sikhao or firka variat phelao us vakt koi marasi ki awlaad nhi bolta lakin barelvio pr koi baat aiey to logo k zatee fail ko barelvion pe thaop detey ho.

tumhain kis ne deen ka thekedaar bnaya he jao jaa kr alhamra me apna khandani kaam kro.barey aiey criticism krney valey apney oooper to aik lafz bardasht nhi hota dosro pe critisicm krnaey aya he.

vo wakt gaya k log sharafat me chup ho jatey they abb nhi tum logo ne hdd hi cross kr de bs bohut ho gaya.criticism krnee he to apney ooper kro doosro pe criticism kro gey to vo b tumharey ooper krey ga.

vesey btaya nhi k deobandion k akabiron ne to piree mureedi kee aaj kion piree mureedi haram ho gaee????????????

Apney alfaaz ko zara ghore se parho phir kisi k ooper ungli uthaney ki himmat kro.
Plz jo naam apney abba jaan k liaey piyaar se use krtey ho vo kisi ore ko na kaho log mind krtey hain.

I don't say a word, let people say who is without father. YOU TRY TO show every body low but on this forum every body is spitting on your face. I told you, you are a Maggot who lives in shit holes. another member here said that you are shit and if he throw stone in it his own clothes will get dirty. so a maggot who survive on others shit, only shit will come out of his mouth. khandan to tumhara sab ko pata chal giya hey. you said sometghing about tablighi jamaat and their women. let me tell you jinho nei haram karna hota hey woh 40 din ka intizar nehi karti hein, woh ghar mein keh key jati hein key pir sahib ko nazar o niaz deini hey. aur peer sahib phir khoob nazar o niaz laitey hein. And out put is something like you. so watch your language budy. donj't teach your father how to f--k. when i was doing my masters degree you were still in liquid form of whom even your father don't know.
you foulmouthed against Maulana tariq jameel, Uleemae deoband tujhe sharam nehi atti zaat key cockroach. i think you said somewhere that you r from multan. every body knows what is most famous about multan. f---le pr-----tes that are supplied all over pakistan. jo bazaro admi hota hey us ko kissi key baap dada ki izaat ka pass nahi hota. so appologise from every body that you foul mouth against than we move forward. mujhe pata hey tujhey bohat mirchi lagey gaa is mail say or to khob gand boley ga. koi baat nahi mein us key jawab mein tujhey kuch nahi bolon ga. bas meiney tujhe teri is mail ka jawab dena tha.

 

[Muhammad Afzal]

بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ-آج میں نے اُنکو اُنکے صبر کا بدلہ دیا،کہ وہ کامیاب ہوگئے(۱۱۱)(خدا)پوچھے گاکہ تم زمین میں کتنے برس رہے؟(۱۱۲)وہ کہیں گے کہ ہم ایک روز یا ایک روز سے بھی کم رہے تھے،شمار کرنے والوں سے پوچھ لیجیئے(۱۱۳)(خدا) فرمائے گا کہ(وہاں)تم(بہت ہی)کم رہے۔کاش تم جانتے ہوتے(۱۱۴)کیا تم یہ خیال ...کرتے ہو کہ ہم نے تم کو بےفائدہ پیدا کیا ہےاور یہ تم ہماری طرف لوٹ کر نہیں آؤ گے؟-سورة المؤمنون

 

[aqeel813]

Dear Malik495 ; Bons ; Aqeel813 ; Ghias Asslam-o-alikum

you know when i came to this forum i thought it will be a good learning experience for me. A constructive criticism will be good to learn from each other. But sorry to say i never knew that some paand and marassi also share the same forum. Who just sit there like a fox, and watch for any thread against their beliefs and they will open their filthy mouth without even realising that people from all over the world are watching. just for an example go through this thread's posts and see what kind of language is used by some members. you feel is if you r sitting in Alhamara open air theatre and listening to the vulgar language of some of the pands of stage.
you give some dalil and the reply will come in such a Jahil way that you feel like hitting your head with the wall. As is obvious in this thread. no supporter of this sect condemn that it was bad, and it should be banned. but instead every effort was made to put other people down by irrelevent arguments. so just sit back and relax and see what jugglery some of these clowns perform to support their views. They like this stupid Taseef ur rehman believe that they are the only firqa going to janat rest every body is kafir. And when Allah will expose reality to them they will say why we did not listen to it when Haque was told to us.
Now watch and see the reply to my mail.

Yar shayd mein e kuch dumb hun. mje samaj nai aai k mje aap ne kya samjhana chaha ha. Will you please explain? janab kya kahin muj se to koi badtamizi nai ho gai? agar kuch wazahat ho jay to behter hai.

 

[Bret Hawk]

True Spirit of Islamic Mysticism is Needed to Revive.


Im a great admirer of Tasawuf as roughly known as Islamic mysticism and have high regards for the true mystics of Allah SWT who had devoted their lives and times for the service of this faith and disseminating the holy divine message of Islam around the world to the Muslims and Non Muslims alike. But seriously speaking from the bottom of my heart these sort of polytheistic and ignorant practices are doing no good service for the cause of this school of thought of Islam. The basic framework of Islamic teaching should be considered here which emphasize for the purification of heart & soul and to associate our hearts only for the remembrance of Allah SWT and practicing on the blessed path of our Holy Prophet SAW. Therefore any mystic practice of Islamic spirituality, which contradicts with this basic framework of Islamic teachings and its legal contours (Shariah Law), cant be appreciated and justified when someone criticizes its rationale. The great mystics of Islam including the legendary Baba Farid Rahima Hu Allah SWT never urged his followers to perform such sort of deviant rituals and therefore we have to educated our ignorant brothers and sisters on such issues and try to educate them about the true spirit of those sages who always urged the common people to get the highest form of purification of their inner selves and to obtain knowledge of Islam and physical sciences so that the humanity can be served perfectly rather than to tread on the course of arrogance and gaining power & influence for the selected influential classes of personnel of this world.