Pakistan DEBT Clock - Disaster economy

stranger

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

My dear sir,
you are the ones making claims about internal and external
so please bring the figures you have based on assertion
I have no issue if you post figures for 10 years...


just answered you earlier..... read this again... and then answer to my question.... how much foreign borrowing by nawaz govt.... please tell the figure...

and read it once again.. do check the references..... i am posting the same thing again....

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Originally Posted by GeoG

Prove it ...





go read about national debt, public debt and foreign debt.... i explained it with references on the following thread

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthrea...89#post3358489

my last post on the thread is as follow

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Originally Posted by wadda.chaudhry
The external debt ($62billion) is almost same as national debt ($58 billion). So the figure given by Rauf klasara still doesn't make sense. Does it?
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/pakistan/external-debt

$62 billion / $180 million = $344 = 34,400 PKR

And yes sorry, national debt is not same as foreign debt. But for Pakistan both debt amounts are approx. same.

Correct me If I am still wrong?





good at least you corrected your figures.... now sum up both... 34400 + 31125 = 65525 per person??? still less than what he claimed???

now add up the national and external debt and per capita debt is $ 666.66 per person(180 million population).... exchange rate as of today: $1 = RS 102.6 (http://www.forexpk.com/) = RS 68400

again he is proved wrong??

now look at it again (from my point of view :)

external debt of Pakistan: check worldbank, CIA factsheet and IMF factsheet.. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._external_debt)

external debt in May 2013 was $67 billion... please share how you calculated it $62 billion (that means Pakistan paid $5 billion in last two years and did not took any external loan - my estimate of current external loan stands around $82-90 billion as of April 2015 but need to find some source, some assumptions are IMF loans in last 2 years + Chinese loans given to pk + investment bonds of worth $7-8 billions Pakistan sold at 7-8% interest last year)

last years report says that per capita debt is around Rs82627 (http://tribune.com.pk/story/716725/e...-owes-rs82627/) and for current year it is definitely more than that (but again i will bring some valid sources of external + public debt)

and lastly, please check the CIA factbook for 2013 and govt debt per capita at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_debt

it says per capita debt of Pak govt is $1462 ($ 283 billion in total), and remember its 2 years old data till april 2013


now talking about only national and external debt, please read this
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-New...er-Rs1-lac-now

and lastly, govt is using investment bonds to keep external borrowing to a lower level, which add to govt debt but wont be visible in external debt..... they are way too smart to cheat us all :)​
 

Raiwind-Destroyer

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Thankyou zionist nawaz and dajjal family




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(Those who eat Riba will not stand (on the Day of Resurrection) except like the standing of a person beaten by Shaytan


This Ayah means, on the Day of Resurrection, these people will get up from their graves just as the person afflicted by insanity or possesed by a demon would. Ibn `Abbas said, "On the Day of Resurrection, those who consume Riba will be resurrected while insane and suffering from seizures.'' Ibn Abi Hatim also recorded this and then commented, "This Tafsir was reported from `Awf bin Malik, Sa`id bin Jubayr, As-Suddi, Ar-Rabi` bin Anas, Qatadah and Muqatil bin Hayyan.'' Al-Bukhari recorded that Samurah bin Jundub said in the long Hadith about the dream that the Prophet had,
 

stranger

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

better copy paste here please and we can debate it

oh you are so lazy that you cant read it..... typical pml-n people

2004
Public debt: $54,622,131,148
Per Person: $339.91
Population: 160,836,885
% of GDP: 60.1%
Debt Change: 8.5%



2008
Public debt: $72,108,196,721
Per Person: $410.98
Population: 175,453,278
% of GDP: 53.5%
Debt Change: 0.7%


2013
Public debt: $121,504,371,585
Per Person: $623.39
Population: 195,532,786
% of GDP: 48.0%
Debt Change: 14.3%


2015

Public debt: $151,821,311,475
Per Person: $759.02
Population: 203,909,836
% of GDP: 47.2%
Debt Change: 11.1%





this is just public debt... and i too hope that you will learn the differences in national, public and foreign debt


now your turn to give figures of foreign borrowing by nawaz govt please... Write the figures if you have guts ... (in your words)please
 

jee_nee_us

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Kamal Kartay ho Bhaai
Roads aur Metro Bana-nay Kay Bawajood Debt is going down
If this an improvement than previous Govt, then what it is?

Debt is infact building up , percentage decreace in increment of debts does not mean that debt is going down.

A fundamental perception loss here.
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Debt is infact building up , percentage decreace in increment of debts does not mean that debt is going down.

A fundamental perception loss here.

Lolz,

A actually get paid per post, don't get anything for research so it was wasted of time for me
Don't try to be over clever

you can skip a few years
and then make comparison

to judge yearly improvement you consider year on year
so calculate that year on year incremental value
Allah SWT Afaqa Day Ga ...
 

jee_nee_us

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

Lolz,

A actually get paid per post, don't get anything for research so it was wasted of time for me
Don't try to be over clever

you can skip a few years
and then make comparison

to judge yearly improvement you consider year on year
so calculate that year on year incremental value
Allah SWT Afaqa Day Ga ...


Again fundamental perception loss.

2+1+0.5+0.3

Things are still adding up.

If you can't understand this you should pay me , i am ready to teach you basic math.
 

UniFaithDici

Senator (1k+ posts)
Kamal Kartay ho Bhaai
Roads aur Metro Bana-nay Kay Bawajood Debt is going down
If this an improvement than previous Govt, then what it is?

You are an Idiot and most of people laughing at you. Reason is simple, you deliberately ignore fact that per Capita debt has increased. Inflation is increased and people are bearing this all.
 

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