Pakistan DEBT Clock - Disaster economy

UniFaithDici

Senator (1k+ posts)
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اس لنک کو کھولیں


http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/pakistan






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scolfeild

Minister (2k+ posts)
NOORA EXPERIENCE TEAM ka Kamal ...Lag nahi raha kay koi be experience hoo. Expire team lagrahii hai...
 
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GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Fact as proven by one your thread

Debt Increment Ratio 2008-2013 >>>>>> 24 Percent
Debt Increment Ratio 2013-2015 >>>>>> 11 Percent

Things getting much better
 

jee_nee_us

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Fact as proven by one your thread

Debt Increment Ratio 2008-2013 >>>>>> 24 Percent
Debt Increment Ratio 2013-2015 >>>>>> 11 Percent

Things getting much better


thing is apart from metros and roads where the money is being spent. Everything in the universe is better than PPPP govt.
 

Ahmed.bilal

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Fact as proven by one your thread

Debt Increment Ratio 2008-2013 >>>>>> 24 Percent
Debt Increment Ratio 2013-2015 >>>>>> 11 Percent

Things getting much better

This is only International Loan. and it is about 30% of our total Debt. and this Govt has taken more loans from local banks.
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
thing is apart from metros and roads where the money is being spent. Everything in the universe is better than PPPP govt.

Kamal Kartay ho Bhaai
Roads aur Metro Bana-nay Kay Bawajood Debt is going down
If this an improvement than previous Govt, then what it is?
 
Clocks would keep on ticking until Imran Becomes PM, and JUST IN CASE, KHAAKIM E BAD_HAN if he gets a position like PM, his excuses are well known

70 saal ka **** main kaisay saaf karoon

mulk ka bera gharaq kar deya Shareef Khaandaan nay

Yeh mulk aik Foji nay banaya thaa

Muhammad Ali Jinnah was an Air Marshal and his aerial strikes gave us Pakistan

Shareef Khandaan nay mulk kay naam per qarzay lay kar jeddah steel mill lagai

Shareef khaandaan nay 1947 say qarzay lena shurru keyay huay hain, india nay jo Pakistan ka hissa naheen deya partition kay waqt uss say ittefaq foundry laga dee india main

india main bhee noon league ke sugar mills hain

Oye main Prime Minister ban gyaa huun per dhandli tou phir bhee huee hai

oye judicial commission

Oye Pakistanio samajhtay kia ho apnay aap ko

oyeeeeee

oye.....

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stranger

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Fact as proven by one your thread

Debt Increment Ratio 2008-2013 >>>>>> 24 Percent
Debt Increment Ratio 2013-2015 >>>>>> 11 Percent

Things getting much better

100 ko 1000 kerne se 10 time azafa hua per net loan 900 ka hai....... 1000 ko 2000 kerne se azafa to 2 times hi hua... per loan 1000 ka ho gia....

nahi samajh aai to khud bhi math perh lo or apnay party ko bhi parha do......
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
100 ko 1000 kerne se 10 time azafa hua per net loan 900 ka hai....... 1000 ko 2000 kerne se azafa to 2 times hi hua... per loan 1000 ka ho gia....

nahi samajh aai to khud bhi math perh lo or apnay party ko bhi parha do......

Write the figures if you have guts ...
 

stranger

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

Prove it ...


go read about national debt, public debt and foreign debt.... i explained it with references on the following thread

http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthre...istani-during-Nawaz-Era&p=3358489#post3358489

my last post on the thread is as follow

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Originally Posted by wadda.chaudhry
The external debt ($62billion) is almost same as national debt ($58 billion). So the figure given by Rauf klasara still doesn't make sense. Does it?
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/pakistan/external-debt

$62 billion / $180 million = $344 = 34,400 PKR

And yes sorry, national debt is not same as foreign debt. But for Pakistan both debt amounts are approx. same.

Correct me If I am still wrong?





good at least you corrected your figures.... now sum up both... 34400 + 31125 = 65525 per person??? still less than what he claimed???

now add up the national and external debt and per capita debt is $ 666.66 per person(180 million population).... exchange rate as of today: $1 = RS 102.6 (http://www.forexpk.com/) = RS 68400

again he is proved wrong??

now look at it again (from my point of view :)

external debt of Pakistan: check worldbank, CIA factsheet and IMF factsheet.. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._external_debt)

external debt in May 2013 was $67 billion... please share how you calculated it $62 billion (that means Pakistan paid $5 billion in last two years and did not took any external loan - my estimate of current external loan stands around $82-90 billion as of April 2015 but need to find some source, some assumptions are IMF loans in last 2 years + Chinese loans given to pk + investment bonds of worth $7-8 billions Pakistan sold at 7-8% interest last year)

last years report says that per capita debt is around Rs82627 (http://tribune.com.pk/story/716725/e...-owes-rs82627/) and for current year it is definitely more than that (but again i will bring some valid sources of external + public debt)

and lastly, please check the CIA factbook for 2013 and govt debt per capita at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_debt

it says per capita debt of Pak govt is $1462 ($ 283 billion in total), and remember its 2 years old data till april 2013


now talking about only national and external debt, please read this
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-New...er-Rs1-lac-now

and lastly, govt is using investment bonds to keep external borrowing to a lower level, which add to govt debt but wont be visible in external debt..... they are way too smart to cheat us all :)
 

stranger

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Write the figures if you have guts ...

just gave you figures of foreign debt, national and/or public debt...... govt wont release those details.. but IMF, World Bank, and CIA fact sheet will publish it periodically.... have a look on the links i mentioned in my previous post....

now a simple question regarding foreign debt only.... how much do they borrow in last 2 year.... give me a figure only... not a ratio..
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
just gave you figures of foreign debt, national and/or public debt...... govt wont release those details.. but IMF, World Bank, and CIA fact sheet will publish it periodically.... have a look on the links i mentioned in my previous post....

now a simple question regarding foreign debt only.... how much do they borrow in last 2 year.... give me a figure only... not a ratio..


Write the figures of National Debt - Internal and External
for the last four years for comparison
 

stranger

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)

Write the figures of National Debt - Internal and External
for the last four years for comparison


dear sir.... it is your part to prove what you just said... give me the figures... not a ratio.... i gave you all the links.... go and read them.... and then come back with a comparison of 10 years (why four years)... take mush era, zardari era and nawaz era...
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
dear sir.... it is your part to prove what you just said... give me the figures... not a ratio.... i gave you all the links.... go and read them.... and then come back with a comparison of 10 years (why four years)... take mush era, zardari era and nawaz era...

My dear sir,
you are the ones making claims about internal and external
so please bring the figures you have based on assertion
I have no issue if you post figures for 10 years...