open letter to the leader of ISIS Al-Baghdadi

khan27

Minister (2k+ posts)
More than 120 Islamic scholars from around the world wrote an open letter to the leader of ISIS Al-Baghdadi, denouncing ISIS and its fundamentals. Everyone should at least go through these points to understand how ISISs ideology is far away from the teachings of the Quran and the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Full letter link is in the comments section.

Quick summary of the 17 page letter:

"1. It is forbidden in Islam to issue fatwas without all the necessary learning requirements. Even then fatwas must follow Islamic legal theory as defined in the Classical texts. It is also forbidden to cite a portion of a verse from the Quranor part of a verseto derive a ruling without looking at everything that the Quran and Hadith teach related to that matter. In other words, there are strict subjective and objective prerequisites for fatwas, and one cannot cherry-pick Quranic verses for legal arguments without considering the entire Quran and Hadith.

2. It is forbidden in Islam to issue legal rulings about anything without mastery of the Arabic language.

3. It is forbidden in Islam to oversimplify Shariah matters and ignore established Islamic sciences.

4. It is permissible in Islam [for scholars] to differ on any matter, except those fundamentals of religion that all Muslims must know.

5. It is forbidden in Islam to ignore the reality of contemporary times when deriving legal rulings.

6. It is forbidden in Islam to kill the innocent.

7. It is forbidden in Islam to kill emissaries, ambassadors, and diplomats; hence it is forbidden to kill journalists and aid workers.

8. Jihad in Islam is defensive war. It is not permissible without the right cause, the right purpose and without the right rules of conduct.

9. It is forbidden in Islam to declare people non-Muslim unless he (or she) openly declares disbelief.

10. It is forbidden in Islam to harm or mistreatin any wayChristians or any People of the Scripture.

11. It is obligatory to consider Yazidis as People of the Scripture.

12. The re-introduction of slavery is forbidden in Islam. It was abolished by universal consensus.

13. It is forbidden in Islam to force people to convert.

14. It is forbidden in Islam to deny women their rights.

15. It is forbidden in Islam to deny children their rights.

16. It is forbidden in Islam to enact legal punishments (hudud) without following the correct
procedures that ensure justice and mercy.

17. It is forbidden in Islam to torture people.

18. It is forbidden in Islam to disfigure the dead.

19. It is forbidden in Islam to attribute evil acts to God.

20. It is forbidden in Islam to destroy the graves and shrines of Prophets and Companions.

21. Armed insurrection is forbidden in Islam for any reason other than clear disbelief by the ruler and not allowing people to pray.

22. It is forbidden in Islam to declare a caliphate without consensus from all Muslims.

23. Loyalty to ones nation is permissible in Islam.

24. After the death of the Prophet, Islam does not require anyone to emigrate anywhere.

http://lettertobaghdadi.com/index.php
 

Pakistani1947

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
do you even know what yazidis belief is?

Yazidis are monotheists,[SUP][14][/SUP] believing in one God, who created the world and entrusted it into the care of a Heptad of seven HolyBeings, often known as Angels or heft sirr (the Seven Mysteries). Preeminent among these is Taws Melek (frequently known as "Melek Taus" in English publications), the Peacock Angel.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP]
Yazidism is not an offshoot of another religion, but shows influence from the many religions of the Middle East. Core Yazidi cosmology has a pre-Zoroastrian Iranian origin, but Yazidism also includes elements of ancient nature-worship, as well as influences from Christianity, Gnosticism, Zoroastrianism, Islam and Judaism. The heptad of angels are God's emanations which are formed of the light of God. God delegates most of his action to the heptad and is therefore somewhat deistic in nature.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP]
"The Yazidis of Kurdistan have been called many things, most notoriously 'devil-worshippers,' a term used both by unsympathetic neighbours and fascinated Westerners. This sensational epithet is not only deeply offensive to the Yazidis themselves, but quite simply wrong."[SUP][51][/SUP] Non-Yazidis have associated Melek Taus with Shaitan (Islamic/Arab name) or Satan, but Yazidis find that offensive and do not actually mention that name.[SUP][51][/SUP]
According to claims in Encyclopedia of the Orient,
The reason for the Yazidis' reputation of being devil worshipers is connected to the other name of Melek Taus, Shaytan, the same name the Koran has for Satan.[SUP][52][/SUP]
Furthermore, the Yazidi story regarding Taws Melek's rise to favor with God is almost identical to the story of the jinn Iblis in Islam, except that Yazidis revere Taws Melek for[SUP][citation needed][/SUP] refusing to submit to God by bowing to Adam, while Muslims believe that Iblis' refusal to submit caused him to fall out of Grace with God, and to later become Satan himself.[SUP][53][/SUP]
Taws Melek is often identified by Muslims and Christians with Shaitan (Satan). Yazidis, however, believe Taws Melek is not a source of evil or wickedness. They consider him to be the leader of the archangels, not a fallen angel.[SUP][16][/SUP][SUP][17][/SUP] They are forbidden from speaking the name Shaitan. They also hold that the source of evil is in the heart and spirit of humans themselves, not in Taws Melek. The active forces in their religion are Taws Melek and Sheik Ad.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP]
The Kitba Cilwe "Book of Illumination", which claims to be the words of Taws Melek, and which presumably represents Yazidi belief, states that he allocates responsibilities, blessings and misfortunes as he sees fit and that it is not for the race of Adam to question him. Sheikh Ad believed that the spirit of Taws Melek was the same as his own, perhaps as a reincarnation. He is reported to have said:
I was present when Adam was living in Paradise, and also when Nemrud threw Abraham in fire. I was present when God said to me: 'You are the ruler and Lord on the Earth'. God, the compassionate, gave me seven earths and throne of the heaven.
Yazidi accounts of creation differ from that of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. They believe that God first created Taws Melek from his own (God's) illumination (Ronah) and the other six archangels were created later. God ordered Taws Melek not to bow to other beings. Then God created the other archangels and ordered them to bring him dust (Ax) from the Earth (Erd) and build the body of Adam. Then God gave life to Adam from his own breath and instructed all archangels to bow to Adam. The archangels obeyed except for Taws Melek. In answer to God, Taws Melek replied, "How can I submit to another being! I am from your illumination while Adam is made of dust." Then God praised him and made him the leader of all angels and his deputy on the Earth. (This probably furthers what some see as a connection to the Islamic Shaytan, as according to the Quran, he too refused to bow to Adam at God's command, though in this case it is seen as being a sign of Shaytan's sinful pride.) Hence the Yazidis believe that Taws Melek is the representative of God on the face of the Earth and comes down to the Earth on the first Wednesday of Nisan (April). Yazidis hold that God created Taws Melek on this day, and celebrate it as New Year's Day. Yazidis argue that the order to bow to Adam was only a test for Taws Melek, since if God commands anything then it must happen. (Bibe, dibe). In other words, God could have made him submit to Adam, but gave Taws Melek the choice as a test. They believe that their respect and praise for Taws Melek is a way to acknowledge his majestic and sublime nature. This idea is called "Knowledge of the Sublime" (Zanista Ciwaniy). Şx Ad has observed the story of Taws Melek and believed in him.[SUP][54][/SUP]
One of the key creation beliefs held by Yazidis is that they are the descendants of Adam through his son Shehid bin Jer rather than Eve.[SUP][52][/SUP] Yazidis believe that good and evil both exist in the mind and spirit of human beings. It depends on the humans, themselves, as to which they choose. In this process, their devotion to Taws Melek is essential, since it was he who was given the same choice between good and evil by God, and chose the good.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP]
The Yazidi holy books are claimed to be the Kitba Cilwe (Book of Revelation) and the Mishefa Reş (Black Book). However, scholars generally agree that the manuscripts of both books published in 1911 and 1913 were forgeries written by non-Yazidis in response to Western travelers' and scholars' interest in the Yazidi religion; the material in them is consistent with authentic Yazidi traditions, however.[SUP][45][/SUP] True texts of those names may have existed, but remain obscure. The real core texts of the religion that exist today are the hymns known as qawls; they have also been orally transmitted during most of their history, but are now being collected with the assent of the community, effectively transforming Yazidism into a scriptural religion.[SUP][45][/SUP] The qawls are full of cryptic allusions and usually need to be accompanied by čirōks or 'stories' that explain their context.[SUP][45][/SUP]
Two key and interrelated features of Yazidism are: a) a preoccupation with religious purity and b) a belief in metempsychosis. The first of these is expressed in the system of caste, the food laws, the traditional preferences for living in Yazidi communities, and the variety of taboos governing many aspects of life. The second is crucial; Yazidis traditionally believe that the Seven Holy Beings are periodically reincarnated in human form, called a koasasa.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP]
A belief in the reincarnation of lesser Yazidi souls also exists. Like the Ahl-e Haqq, the Yazidis use the metaphor of a change of garment to describe the process, which they call kiras guhorn in Kurmanji (changing the garment). Spiritual purification of the soul can be attained via continual reincarnation within the faith group, but it can also be halted by means of expulsion from the Yazidi community; this is the worst possible fate, since the soul's spiritual progress halts and conversion back into the faith is impossible.[SUP][55][/SUP] Alongside this notion of continuous rebirth, Yazidi theology also includes descriptions of heaven and hell, with hell extinguished, and other traditions incorporating these ideas into a belief system that includes reincarnation.[SUP][52]

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidis[/SUP]
 

hans

Banned
Why do Muslim mullah write a letter to Isis leader ... who has proven again all healthy reasoning .. is a pig.
And u all know pigs can't read.
 
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حکایت جنوں

Guest
Hey you're the guy who attributed a false verse to Quran. You're such a shameless prick. Wonder what these scholars think of people who come up with non-existant quranic verses.

ملا عمر صاحب آپ کے اسلامی جذبے کی قدر مگر دولت اسلامیہ یا القائدہ کی حمایت سے پہلے سوچ لیں کہ یہ کافر سے زیادہ مسلمان کی جان لینے میں بےباک ہیں- ایسا اسلامی تاریخ میں شائد خوارج کے علاوہ کسی نے نہیں کیا- اسلام نے دنیا میں اپنی عظمت کا سکہ اپنی رواداری کی بدولت بھی جمایا تھا- مانا آج غلامی کا دور ہے- مانا کہ آگے راستہ نہیں دکھتا- مانا کہ جن ممالک میں آزادی کے لئے مسلمان لڑ رہے ہیں ان کی حمایت لازم مگر کسی عالمی اسلامی مزاحمتی تحریک کے لئے ضروری ہے کہ وہ انٹلیکچوئل طور پر توانا ہو اور تشدد کی راہ پر گامزن نہ ہو- ورنہ تباہی ہی تباہی ہے- ام مسلمان چاہے کیسا بھی گنہگار کیوں نہ ہو اس کے قتل کی کوئی جسٹیفیکیشن نہیں ہے
 

Mullah Omar

Minister (2k+ posts)

ملا عمر صاحب آپ کے اسلامی جذبے کی قدر مگر دولت اسلامیہ یا القائدہ کی حمایت سے پہلے سوچ لیں کہ یہ کافر سے زیادہ مسلمان کی جان لینے میں بےباک ہیں- ایسا اسلامی تاریخ میں شائد خوارج کے علاوہ کسی نے نہیں کیا- اسلام نے دنیا میں اپنی عظمت کا سکہ اپنی رواداری کی بدولت بھی جمایا تھا- مانا آج غلامی کا دور ہے- مانا کہ آگے راستہ نہیں دکھتا- مانا کہ جن ممالک میں آزادی کے لئے مسلمان لڑ رہے ہیں ان کی حمایت لازم مگر کسی عالمی اسلامی مزاحمتی تحریک کے لئے ضروری ہے کہ وہ انٹلیکچوئل طور پر توانا ہو اور تشدد کی راہ پر گامزن نہ ہو- ورنہ تباہی ہی تباہی ہے- ام مسلمان چاہے کیسا بھی گنہگار کیوں نہ ہو اس کے قتل کی کوئی جسٹیفیکیشن نہیں ہے
Can you tell me how many INNOCENT muslims IS has killed deliberately?
 
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حکایت جنوں

Guest
Can you tell me how many INNOCENT muslims IS has killed deliberately?

سچی بات کہنی چاہیے میں نہیں جانتا- آزادانہ میڈیا کو تو جانے کی اجازت ہی نہیں تو تعداد کا پتا کیسے چلے گا- مگر میں ایک بات جانتا ہوں کہ وہابی نظریہ مسلمانوں کا خون بہانے میں بے باک ہے- اس کا طریقہ کار متشدد ہے- آج سے نہیں ٣ صدیوں سے ایسا ہے- جنوبی ایشیا میں بالخصوص دیوبند اور اہل حدیث مکتبہ فکر پر بھی ان کا اثر پڑا اور اس کا نتیجہ اچھا نہیں نکلا-


معلوم نہیں آپ کو کیسا لگے مگر وہابی مسلمانوں میں تقلید کا انکار کرنے والے پہلا گروہ تھے- تجدد پسندوں کے مائی باپ یہی تھے- ایسے ہی تو سر سید خود کو کٹر وہابی کہا کرتے تھے
 

hans

Banned
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Atleast Grave worshiper dont kill.

ISIS if u think they are even human... should stop this stupid action.

Have some sharam.

with all this killing you can smile or laugh.. that is shameful of your kind.


and how many of these 120 puppets are graveworshipers ? :lol:
 

Rooh-e-Safar

Senator (1k+ posts)

سچی بات کہنی چاہیے میں نہیں جانتا- آزادانہ میڈیا کو تو جانے کی اجازت ہی نہیں تو تعداد کا پتا کیسے چلے گا- مگر میں ایک بات جانتا ہوں کہ وہابی نظریہ مسلمانوں کا خون بہانے میں بے باک ہے- اس کا طریقہ کار متشدد ہے- آج سے نہیں ٣ صدیوں سے ایسا ہے- جنوبی ایشیا میں بالخصوص دیوبند اور اہل حدیث مکتبہ فکر پر بھی ان کا اثر پڑا اور اس کا نتیجہ اچھا نہیں نکلا-


معلوم نہیں آپ کو کیسا لگے مگر وہابی مسلمانوں میں تقلید کا انکار کرنے والے پہلا گروہ تھے- تجدد پسندوں کے مائی باپ یہی تھے- ایسے ہی تو سر سید خود کو کٹر وہابی کہا کرتے تھے
No... In the beginning they asked independent media to visit the state and see with their own eyes the truth of fabricated stories. But since media was more interested in defaming the state and instead of reporting the truth, they started working as the spies or started biased reporting, they were banned. There is absolutely no proof of any civilian killing and any such stories have either proven false or a result of biased reporting... and IS are not wahabis.
 

Pukaar

Senator (1k+ posts)
No... In the beginning they asked independent media to visit the state and see with their own eyes the truth of fabricated stories. But since media was more interested in defaming the state and instead of reporting the truth, they started working as the spies or started biased reporting, they were banned. There is absolutely no proof of any civilian killing and any such stories have either proven false or a result of biased reporting... and IS are not wahabis.

How did ISIS get highly skilled Military training? Did God send an army of Angels to train them or did the 'Satan' work his magic?
 

Zoq_Elia

Senator (1k+ posts)
No... In the beginning they asked independent media to visit the state and see with their own eyes the truth of fabricated stories. But since media was more interested in defaming the state and instead of reporting the truth, they started working as the spies or started biased reporting, they were banned. There is absolutely no proof of any civilian killing and any such stories have either proven false or a result of biased reporting... and IS are not wahabis.

Shamelessly Wrong again.............

1. I Think These Khwarij do not Consider Shia Muslims as Civilians at all.........

2. Yazidi's Community is not Civilian ???????
[VIDEO=facebook;682537255147702]https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=682537255147702[/VIDEO]

[VIDEO=dailymotion;x23h7mr]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x23h7mr_human-tide-of-yazidis-scramble-onto-helicopter-in-rush-to-escape-death_news[/VIDEO]

[VIDEO=vimeo;107321081]https://vimeo.com/107321081[/VIDEO]

3. These Sunni Ulma Who do not Favor ISIS are Not Civilian near these idiots...........

[VIDEO=vimeo;107231862]https://vimeo.com/107231862[/VIDEO]

4. Those Sunni Communities Who do not Like ISIS and do not want ISIS in their Towns are not Civilian????
[VIDEO=dailymotion;x26umdx]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x26umdx_syria-executions-hostage-taking-by-rebels_news[/VIDEO]


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Download the ISIS made (ISIS fan made according to Rooh-e-Safar) Movie of Beheading of Poor al-Sheitat tribe in Deir Ezzor province. watch it at your own risk very graphic.

Download here


Gruesome videos have surfaced online purporting to be of the beheadings in several Sheitat villages. The footage showed men laughing and mocking the victims by mimicking goats as they performed the executions.

And many more.........

and IS are not wahabis

Yes.....
IS are not wahabis.....
They are Khwarij. (
Dogs of Hell)
 
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