open letter to the leader of ISIS Al-Baghdadi

abdlsy

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
[FONT=wf_segoe-ui_light]the one who think shia are muslim must read this:[/FONT][FONT=wf_segoe-ui_light]

What is the position on the 12 Imams of the Shia, especiallt the later ones?.
Praise be to Allaah.
Firstly:
The Raafidis, Imamis or Ithna Asharis (Twelvers) are one of the branches of Shiism. They are called Raafidis because they rejected (rafada) most of the Sahaabah and they rejected the leadership of the two Shaykhs Abu Bakr and Umar, or because they rejected the imamate of Zayd ibn Ali, and deserted him. They called Imamis because they are primarily focused on the issue of imamate, and they made it a basic principle of their religion, or because they claim that the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stated that Ali and his descendents would be imams. They are called Ithna Asharis (Twelvers) because they believe in the imamate of twelve men from the Prophets family (ahl al-bayt), the first of whom was Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) and the last of whom was Muhammad ibn al-Hasan al-Askari, the supposed hidden imam, who they say entered the tunnel of Samarra in the middle of the third century AH and he is still alive therein, and they are waiting for him to come out!

They hold beliefs and principles which are contrary to those of the people of Islam, such as the following:
-1- They exaggerate about their imams, claiming that they are infallible, and they devote many acts of worship to them such as supplication, seeking help, offering sacrifices and tawaaf (circumambulating their tombs). This is major shirk which Allaah tells us will not be forgiven. These acts of shirk are committed by their scholars and common folk alike, without anyone among them objecting to that.

2-
They say that the Holy Quraan has been distorted, and that things have been added and taken away. They have books concerning that which are known to their scholars and many of their common folk, and they even say that believing that the Quraan has been distorted is an essential tenet of their beliefs.

-3-They regard most of the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) as kaafirs, and disavow them, and they seek to draw closer to Allaah by cursing and reviling them. They claim that they apostatized after the death of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) except very few (only seven). This is a rejection of the Quraan which affirms their virtue, and says that Allaah was pleased with them and chose them to accompany His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). It also implies a slur against the Quraan itself, because it was transmitted via them; if they were kuffaar then there is no guarantee that they did not distort it or change it. This is what the Raafidis believe anyway, as stated above.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: As for the one who goes further and claims that they apostatized after the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) died, apart from a small number, no more than ten or so, or that they became evildoers, there is no doubt that he is a kaafir, because he is rejecting what it says in the Quraan in more than one place, that Allaah was pleased with them and praised them. Indeed, the one who doubts that such a person is a kaafir is to be labelled as a kaafir himself, because what this view implies is that those who transmitted the Quraan and Sunnah were kuffaar or rebellious evildoers. The verse says You (true believers in Islamic Monotheism, and real followers of Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم and his Sunnah) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind [Aal Imraan 3:110], and the best of them were the first generation. But according to this view, most of them were kaafirs and rebellious evildoers, and this ummah is the worst of nations and the earliest generations of this ummah were the most evil of them. The fact that this is kufr is something that no Muslim has any excuse for not knowing. End quote from al-Saarim al-Maslool ala Shaatim al-Rasool (p. 590).

-4-They attribute badaa to Allaah, i.e., forming a new opinion that was not held before. This implies attribution of ignorance to Allaah, may He be exalted.

-5-They believe in taqiyah (dissimulation) which means showing outwardly something other than what one feels inside. In fact this is lying and hypocrisy and skill in deceiving people. This is not something that they do at times of fear; rather they regard use of taqiyah as a religious duty for minor and major matters, at times of fear and times of safety. Whatever of truth was narrated from one of their imams, such as praise for the companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), or agreeing with Ahl al-Sunnah, even in matters of purification or food and drink, is rejected by the Shiah who say that the Imam only said that by way of taqiyah.

-6-Belief in rajaah, which is the belief that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and the members of his household (ahl al-bayt), Ali, al-Hasan, al-Husayn and the other imams will return. At the same time, Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthmaan, Muaawiyah, Yazeed, Ibn Dhil-Jooshan and everyone who harmed Ahl al-bayt according to their claims will also return.

All of these people will return according to their beliefs to this world once more before the Day of Resurrection, when the Mahdi reappears, as the enemy of Allaah Ibn Saba told them; they will return in order to be punished because they harmed Ahl al-Bayt and transgressed against them and denied them their rights, so they will be severely punished, then they will all die, then they will be resurrected on the Day of Resurrection for the final recompense. This is what they believe.
And there are other corrupt beliefs which one can find more details about in the following books, which explain how false they are:
al-Khutoot al-Areedah by Muhibb al-Deen al-Khateeb (available in English, translated by Abu Bilal Mustafa al-Kanadi)

Usool Madhhab al-Shiah al-Imamiyyah by Dr. Naasir al-Qafaari

Firaq Muaasirah tantasib ila al-Islam by Dr. Ghaalib ibn Ali Awaaji (1/127-269)

Al-Mawsooah al-Muyassarah fil-Adyaan wal-Madhaahib wal-Ahzaab al-Muaasirah (1/51-57).

The scholars of the Standing Committee for Issuing Fatwas were asked: Is the Imam Shiah way part of Islam? Who made it up? Because they, i.e., the Shiah, attribute their madhhab to Sayyiduna Ali (may Allaah ennoble his face).

Answer: The Imami Shiah madhhab is a fabricated madhhab that has been introduced into Islam. We advise you to read the book al-Khutoot al-Areedah and Mukhtasar al-Tuhfah al-Ithna Ashariyyah andMinhaaj al-Sunnah by Shaykh al-Islam [Ibn Taymiyah], which will explain a lot of their innovations.
Abd al-Azeez ibn Abd-Allaah ibn Baaz, Abd al-Razzaaq Afeefi, Abd-Allaah ibn Ghadyaan. End quote.

Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daaimah (2/377).

Secondly:
From the above it is clear that this madhahb is false and that it goes against the beliefs of Ahl al-Sunnah wal-Jamaaah, and that its beliefs will not be acceptable from anyone, either from their scholars or their common folk.

As for the imams to whom they claim to belong, they are innocent of this lie and falsehood.
There follow the names of these imams:
1- Ali ibn Abi Taalib (may Allaah be pleased with him) who was martyred in 40 AH.
2- Al-Hasan ibn Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) (3-50 AH)
3- Al-Husayn ibn Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) (4-61 AH)
4- Ali Zayn al-Aabideen ibn al-Husayn (38-95 AH), whom they call al-Sajjaad
5- Muhammad ibn Ali Zayn al-Aabideen (57-114 AH) whom they call al-Baaqir
6- Jafar ibn Muhammad al-Baaqir (83-148 AH) whom they call al-Saadiq
7- Moosa ibn Jafar al-Saadiq (128-148 AH) whom they call al-Kaadim
8- Ali ibn Moosa al-Kaadim (148-203 AH) whom they call al-Rida (Reza)
9- Muhammad al-Jawaad ibn Ali al-Rida (195-220 AH) whom they call al-Taqiy
10- Ali al-Haadi ibn Muhammad al-Jawaad (212-254 AH) whom they call al-Naqiy
11- al-Hasan al-Askari ibn Ali al-Haadi (232-260) whom they call al-Zakiy
12- Muhammad al-Mahdi ibn al-Hasan al-Askari, whom they call al-Hujjah al-Qaaim al-Muntazar. They claim that he entered a tunnel in Samarra, but most researchers are of the view that he did not exist at all, and that he is a Shii myth.

See: al-Mawsooah al-Muyassarah (1/51).

Ibn Katheer said in al-Bidaayah wal-Nihaayah (1/177): As for what they believe about the tunnel of Samarra, that is a myth which has no basis in reality and no proof or sound reports. End quote.

Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) divided the Imams of the Ithna Ashari Shiah into four categories:

1 Ali ibn Abi Taalib, al-Hasan and al-Husayn (may Allaah be pleased with them). They are noble Sahaabah and no one doubts their virtue and leadership, but many others shared with them the virtue of being companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and among the Sahaabah there are others who were more virtuous than them, based on saheeh evidence from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

2 Ali ibn al-Husayn, Muhammad ibn Ali al-Baaqir, Jafar ibn Muhammad al-Saadiq and Moosa ibn Jafar. They are among the trustworthy and reliable scholars. Manhaaj al-Sunnah (2/243, 244).

3 Ali ibn Moosa al-Rida, Muhammad ibn Ali ibn Moosa al-Jawaad, Ali ibn Muhammad ibn Ali al-Askari, and al-Hasan ibn Ali ibn Muhammad al-Askari. Concerning them, Shaykh al-Islam (Ibn Taymiyah) said: They did not show a great deal of knowledge such that the ummah might benefit from them, nor did they have any authority by means of which they could help the ummah. Rather they were like any other Haashimis, they occupy a respected position, and they have sufficient knowledge of what which is needed by them and expected of people like them; it is a type is knowledge that is widely available to ordinary Muslims. But the type of knowledge that is exclusive to the scholars was not present in their case. Therefore seeks of knowledge did not receive from them what they received from the other three. Had they had that which was useful to seekers of knowledge, they would have sought it from them, as seekers of knowledge are well aware of where to go for knowledge. Minhaaj al-Sunnah (6/387).

4 Muhammad ibn al-Hasan al-Askari al-Muntazar (the awaited one). He did not exist at all, as stated above.

And Allaah knows b
est.

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shame on you for disrespecting others beliefs, rozae hushur mein inshallah allahtallah tumhara hisaab kurrae gaa, apnee fikur kurr baiwaqoof insaan baeshurum
 

Rooh-e-Safar

Senator (1k+ posts)
shame on you for disrespecting others beliefs, rozae hushur mein inshallah allahtallah tumhara hisaab kurrae gaa, apnee fikur kurr baiwaqoof insaan baeshurum

shutup jalee pig charsee, abhee green card milae toe tairee raal tupkae gee orr fourun bhagae gaaa amreeeka, when you eat free USA wheat for 20 years tub shurum nahee atee fatso

chal burraa aya hae quran koe follow kurnae wala charsee, copy paste master

who cares without air superiority like Taliban you all with super military dudes will be dead meat inshallah, jalee fauj form sadaam who r jobless shaitaans, jalee fauj of ghadafee jobless, joining stupid peace of s ISIS which is ie IS S H I T

iss beecharae budhae kae khandan koe bundooq rukh kae yae jalee interview, all ISI freaks zombies n jerks charsee jalee jehadees

please dont Bs h i t OK?

by the way do you really know what your BELIEFS are and what you have to do as a human, I DONT think so, so shut f up, respect EVERYBODYS belief, pehlae apnae aaap koe toe sudhar baiwaqoof, leave it to allahtallah

aik aur ghuddar fitna, allah buchae ameen: Mullah Omar ( kidhar kaa mullah hae tu dusturkhwan kaa sirf zalim), Musa khan/yahya khan dead in operation, Khanhariupr ( panee puree), freedomlover ( no freedom in a cave). Roohae azab why the hell all of u LAZY bums dont join all these fraud jehadees sale overweight kee wuja sae upkoe reject kurdeeya free loaders of NATO wheat, all of u r ghuddars, Intelligence officials will find u soon inshallah.

stop refering quran Mullah of dusturkhwan of free NATO wheat naan, free medical care of NATO baeshurum mullah

shutup stop Bs iting

Never have I read such intellectual and logical replies on a single thread by a singe user...[hilar]
 

abdlsy

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Never have I read such intellectual and logical replies on a single thread by a singe user...[hilar]

This was really my very milder versions for shaitans who support anti Muslim khwarijis. We usually delete them ASAP if face to face.
 

mr.car

MPA (400+ posts)
shame on you for disrespecting others beliefs, rozae hushur mein inshallah allahtallah tumhara hisaab kurrae gaa, apnee fikur kurr baiwaqoof insaan baeshurum

This was really my very milder versions for shaitans who support anti Muslim khwarijis. We usually delete them ASAP if face to face.

you know at the time of prophet when he start spreading allah message. there were two types of people. one of them was those who listen to him and tried to understand what this guy is taking about and with time they came in the fold of islam. the seconds type was those people who didnt listen to our prophet (pbuh) and start abusing him because according to them the prophet was disrespectful to their forefathers beliefs.they wage a war against islam.

as a muslim it is our responsibility to tell people about kufr. in now a day some kafr have start calling themself muslim, but in reality they are not,

may allah guide you to the right path. may allah guide to the right path. ameen...
 
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abdlsy

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
you know at the time of prophet when he start spreading allah message. there were two types of people. one of them was those who listen to him and tried to understand what this guy is taking about and with time they came in the fold of islam. the seconds type was those people who didnt listen to our prophet (pbuh) and start abusing him because according to them the prophet was disrespectful to their forefathers beliefs.they wage a war against islam.

as a muslim it is our responsibility to tell people about kufr. in now a day some kafr have start calling themself muslim, but in reality they are not,

may allah guide you to the right path. may allah guide to the right path. ameen...

too many muslims, dont need to spread, just be good humans as momin musalmans and nonbelievers will automatically enter islam seeing the humanity and kindness in you, islam you are trying to support is khwarjee who butchers humans and misrepresent huzoorsulalhwalhaesulums kind human islam, may allhtallah guide you too, ameen
 

Shanzeh

Minister (2k+ posts)

اصل بات یہ ہے کے امریکا شریعت اسلامی کا دشمن ہے جہاں بھی شریعت کا نظام نافذ ہو جاتا ہے یہ پاگل ہاتھی کی طرح دورہ چلا آتا ہے لیکن کب تک آخر کب تک 10،20،100 یا سینکڑوں سال تک امریکا مسلمانوں کے ساتھ لڑی گا مسلمان حق کا دامن نہیں چھوڑینگے انشاللہ



شانزے خان ڈيجيٹل آؤٹ ريچ ٹيم يو ايس اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹمينٹ

امريکی حکومت دنيا بھر کے ممالک ميں اسلامی قوانين کے خاتمے کے مشن پر نہيں ہے۔ اس ضمن میں آپ کو سعودی عرب کی مثال دوں گی جہاں قانونی سازی کے عمل ميں وسيع بنيادوں پر اسلامی قوانين کا اطلاق کيا جاتا ہے۔ يہ درست ہے کہ امريکہ بہت سے قوانين اور روايات سے متفق نہيں ليکن اس کے باوجود سعودی عرب کے عوام اور ان کی حکومت سے امريکہ کے ديرينيہ تعلقات ہيں جو کئ دہائيوں پر محيط ہيں۔

اس وقت دنيا ميں قريب 50 سے زائد اسلامک ممالک ہيں اور ان ميں سے زيادہ تر ممالک سے امريکہ کے باہم احترام کے اصولوں کی بنياد پر دوستانہ تعلقات ہيں۔

ميں يہ بھی واضح کر دوں کہ ايسے کئ غير مسلم ممالک بھی ہیں جہاں پر کچھ روايات اور قوانين امريکی معاشرے کے اصولوں سے مطابقت نہيں رکھتے ليکن اس کا يہ مطلب ہرگز نہيں ہے کہ امريکہ ان ممالک سے سفارتی تعلقات استوار کرنے سے پہلے ان قوانين کو تبديل کرے۔


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Freedomlover

Minister (2k+ posts)

شانزے خان ڈيجيٹل آؤٹ ريچ ٹيم يو ايس اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹمينٹ

امريکی حکومت دنيا بھر کے ممالک ميں اسلامی قوانين کے خاتمے کے مشن پر نہيں ہے۔ اس ضمن میں آپ کو سعودی عرب کی مثال دوں گی جہاں قانونی سازی کے عمل ميں وسيع بنيادوں پر اسلامی قوانين کا اطلاق کيا جاتا ہے۔ يہ درست ہے کہ امريکہ بہت سے قوانين اور روايات سے متفق نہيں ليکن اس کے باوجود سعودی عرب کے عوام اور ان کی حکومت سے امريکہ کے ديرينيہ تعلقات ہيں جو کئ دہائيوں پر محيط ہيں۔

اس وقت دنيا ميں قريب 50 سے زائد اسلامک ممالک ہيں اور ان ميں سے زيادہ تر ممالک سے امريکہ کے باہم احترام کے اصولوں کی بنياد پر دوستانہ تعلقات ہيں۔

ميں يہ بھی واضح کر دوں کہ ايسے کئ غير مسلم ممالک بھی ہیں جہاں پر کچھ روايات اور قوانين امريکی معاشرے کے اصولوں سے مطابقت نہيں رکھتے ليکن اس کا يہ مطلب ہرگز نہيں ہے کہ امريکہ ان ممالک سے سفارتی تعلقات استوار کرنے سے پہلے ان قوانين کو تبديل کرے۔


شانزے خان ڈيجيٹل آؤٹ ريچ ٹيم يو ايس اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹمينٹ

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امریکا کے تعلقات صرف ان نام نہاد اسلامی ملکوں کے ساتھ سہی ہیں جہاں پر آقا اور غلام والی صورت حال ہے رہی بات سعودیہ کی تو وہاں پر کوئی شریعت نہیں مسلمانوں کی آنکھوں میں دھول جھونکنے کے لیے تھوڑا بہت جو اسلامی قانون نافذ ہے امریکا اس کے خلاف بھی میڈیا پروپیگنڈا کرتا رہتا ہے

 

Smiter

MPA (400+ posts)
and how many of these 120 puppets are graveworshipers ? :lol:
Looks like this laugh is an attempt by a khariji to hide his fear. The list of ulema who approved this letter is available. Any seeker of truth can access it. But obviously, khawarij can never answer the arguments presented by Muslims accept to laugh it out.

Every Muslim knows that these people, including their Talibani brothers in Pakistan, are KHAWARIJ. They called Hazrat Ali and Hazrat Usman KAAFIR. And they are doing the same thing with Muslims today.
But rest assured, their fate is not going to be any different from the past. Slaughter.

Here is Saudi Wahhabi Imam e Kaaba's approval of ISIS as KHAWARIJ.
"DAAISH KHAWARIJ ... HEIN"

http://express.com.pk/images/NP_LHE/20141004/Sub_Images/1102458473-1.jpg
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"khuda zameen se gaya nahin he"
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xtyicy_khuda-zameen-se-gaya-nahi-hai_shortfilms
 
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Smiter

MPA (400+ posts)
ya open letter kesi shia na lika ho ga[hilar]
Are killings, rapings and doing takfir on Muslims a laughing matter? May be to khawarij.

Some signatories of this letter:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...e_n_5878038.html?&ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067

The letter’s authors include well-known religious and scholarly figures in the Muslim world, including Sheikh Shawqi Allam, the grand mufti of Egypt, and Sheikh Muhammad Ahmad Hussein, the mufti of Jerusalem and All Palestine.

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"khuda zameen se gaya nahin he"
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xtyicy_khuda-zameen-se-gaya-nahi-hai_shortfilms
 
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ekdumReady

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)



يعنی جو آپ کی بات نا مانے آپ نے جھٹ اس پر فتوہ لگانا ہۓ کہ کافر، مارو اس کی گردن۔ يار ايسے ميں تو دنيا کے مسلمانوں ميں سے ننانوے اعشاريہ ننانوے فيصد لوگ تمھارے خلاف ہيں، تم سب کو تہ تيغ کروگے؟

پاسا بھائی میں آپ کی بات سے اتفاق کرتا ہوں جب بھی آپ لوگوں نے حق سچ کی بات کی اور آئی ایس آئی ایس کی بربریت کے لیے اپنی آواز بلند کی اور کچھ کہناچاہا- آپ کو اسکےجواب میں شکوہ براۓ شکوہ ملا- بجاۓ مذمت کی الٹا ان کی جارحیت کی حما یت کی کچھ لوگوں نے-"سب سے خطا وار شخص وہ ہے جو دوسروں کی برائیاں بیان کرتا پھرے اور مسلمانوں کو کافر قرار دے
 

Shanzeh

Minister (2k+ posts)

امریکا کے تعلقات صرف ان نام نہاد اسلامی ملکوں کے ساتھ سہی ہیں جہاں پر آقا اور غلام والی صورت حال ہے رہی بات سعودیہ کی تو وہاں پر کوئی شریعت نہیں مسلمانوں کی آنکھوں میں دھول جھونکنے کے لیے تھوڑا بہت جو اسلامی قانون نافذ ہے امریکا اس کے خلاف بھی میڈیا پروپیگنڈا کرتا رہتا ہے


شانزے خان ڈيجيٹل آؤٹ ريچ ٹيم يو ايس اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹمينٹ


ميں نے بارہا يہ واضح کيا ہے کہ امريکی حکومت دنيا بھر ميں بيرونی حکومتوں کے زير اثر قوانين ميں تراميم کی متمنی نہيں ہے۔ امريکی حکومت کے پاس ايسی غير حقيقی مہم جوئ کے حوالے سے نا تو وسائل ہيں اور نا ہی کوئ ارادہ يا خواہش ہے۔ بلکہ حقيقت تو يہ ہے کہ امريکی حکومت کو اپنے ملک ميں قوانين ميں تبديلی يا نۓ قوانين روشناس کروانے کے ليے تگ ودو لابنگ اور باقاعدہ مہم چلانی پڑتی ہے۔ اگر امریکی حکومت کے پاس اپنی سرحدوں کے اندر اتنا اختيار نہيں ہے کہ ہم ايسی تراميم بغير کسی روک ٹوک کے اپنی مرضی کے مطابق کر سکيں تو پھر يہ کيسے ممکن ہے کہ ہم ہزاروں ميل دور دوسرے ممالک کے پورے قانونی سسٹم کو اپنی منشا کے مطابق ڈھال سکيں؟

امريکہ سياسی، معاشی اور سفارتی سطح پر ايسے بہت سے ممالک سے باہمی دلچسپی کے امور پر تعلقات استوار رکھتا ہے جس کی قيادت، قوانين اور طرز حکومت سے امريکی حکومت کے نظرياتی اختلافات ہوتے ہيں۔

جہاں امريکہ کے ايسے ممالک سے روابط رہے ہيں جہاں آمريت ہے، وہاں ايسے بھی بہت سے ممالک ہيں جہاں جمہوريت يا اور کوئ اور نظام حکومت ہے


شانزے خان ڈيجيٹل آؤٹ ريچ ٹيم يو ايس اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹمينٹ

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