Off The Record - 16th Nov 2010 - Nawaz Sharif Exposed By Abid Raza & Musharraf's Spokesman

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Listen again, SiddiqulFarooq has answered all the questions, Factories of Mian Nawaz Sharif were having 32000 employees in 1973, when both of these (so-called politicians Faisal Raza & Fawad) were playing in LAPS of their of their PAPAS . If Faisal Raza has shown these documents to SiddiquiFarooq along with full detail prior to the program, then he might have accepted these documents otherwise we are not sure from where he has got these documents or these might be fake, as they are in govt. Those who can change Termination of Rehman Malik from FIA into a retirement, they can also present fake documents.
Fawad has not answered the uranium question, this was the version of SiddiqulFarooq that they have said it was a mistake, Fawad should confirm or else give the detail of how this has happened. These are not mistakes, they have housearrested the Dr. Adbul Qadeer Khan on similar charges. These are not simple things, all of these Generals are involved in these incidents. My question is why this sensitive Advertisement incident has happened, and on the order of whom? On one side they have housearrested our national hero for years and when similar story has been disclosed against them,then they have presented it as a mistake. DRAMAY BAZ ....


I fully agree with you.The advertisement of such a sensitive material could not just be a simple mistake. It was indeed a grave mistake which was done with full intention. The dictator perhaps made another short U turn there as well since he was practicing it for many years. I call him Pathological Lier.Anything is expected from such a loose character person.
 

Spartacus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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This talk show is nothing but a Political (forced) raped of PML-n by Fawad and Abidi .
CJ should take Somoto action against Abidi and Fawad.
I think this was a pre-planed talk show and Kashif abbasi is also with those two blody guys.
 

Urooj_lbw

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
haha haha, Nawaz culprit has been fully exposed, aik do oor shows and then Sher Punjab will be gone :)
I fully agree with you.The advertisement of such a sensitive material could not just be a simple mistake. It was indeed a grave mistake which was done with full intention. The dictator perhaps made another short U turn there as well since he was practicing it for many years. I call him Pathological Lier.Anything is expected from such a loose character person.
 

shiningstar

Minister (2k+ posts)
haha haha, Nawaz culprit has been fully exposed, aik do oor shows and then Sher Punjab will be gone :)
I agree with you that there should be shows on all politicians. But I think your desire has overcommed your analysis, NS is most popular leader now, all other are down to zero or some of them even run out of the country.
 

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
There should be a "Judicial Commission" under an impartial Chief Justice to probe all Politicians, Generals, Bureaucrats and
all others from 1971 onwards. Otherwise every party has gangsters/mercenaries who come on these type of
talk show to score points. One thing is for sure that "EVERYONE" ,in one way or other, has some corruption
blood on his/her hand.
Last but not the least someone has labelled Nawaz Sharif as "Lohar", unless the accuser does not hail from
all people who were on boat of Noah, he can say so but at the same time, then he can be anybody but a Muslim.
 

Urooj_lbw

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
chalo abhi dekhte hen, ye saare jaage ge, jab inhen isi tarha expose kia jai ga, itne bare looters, 3 billion $, 1981 onwards kia kia kha gai mian sahab, Allah maaf kare, bas dekhte jao bete, abhi aage aage dekho is ganje loha chor ke saath kia hota he
I agree with you that there should be shows on all politicians. But I think your desire has overcommed your analysis, NS is most popular leader now, all other are down to zero or some of them even run out of the country.
 

shiningstar

Minister (2k+ posts)
chalo abhi dekhte hen, ye saare jaage ge, jab inhen isi tarha expose kia jai ga, itne bare looters, 3 billion $, 1981 onwards kia kia kha gai mian sahab, Allah maaf kare, bas dekhte jao bete, abhi aage aage dekho is ganje loha chor ke saath kia hota he
bahrhaal I appreciate k unhon nay kuch nai chupaya, aur is discussion say kuch ghalat prove nai hua, haan yeah proof hua k un ka business 1937 say hai aur agar wo itne bare party chala rahay hain tu un ki source of income bhe declared hai, yahan tu poore poore partian BAHTTA MAFIA chala raha hay. aap ki khuahisat par qurban.............
 

Edangered

Citizen
bahrhaal I appreciate k unhon nay kuch nai chupaya, aur is discussion say kuch ghalat prove nai hua, haan yeah proof hua k un ka business 1937 say hai aur agar wo itne bare party chala rahay hain tu un ki source of income bhe declared hai, yahan tu poore poore partian BAHTTA MAFIA chala raha hay. aap ki khuahisat par qurban.............

1936 se kon sa business hae? Sabb tu bhutto ne nationalize ker diya tha agar kuch thaa bhi tu ... inn ke factories lagna shuru huee haen jabb NS finance minister banaa hae ... this baseless claim has been exposed today when Fawad gave EXACT years of opening of Shareef Empire factories aur siddique-ul-farooq ke pas koi jawaab nahin tha ... phir abidi jo retuns laaya hae 92 ki ... unn ke baare mein kya khayal hae? 92 mein 2 lakh tax dya company ein ... last year 50 crore :O ... oh haan .. 2 prie minister ki terms guzri haen beech mein...

Haan abhi wo ye claim shayad ker dein ke qaroon jaate hue apni daulat inn ke naam ker gya tha.
 

Urooj_lbw

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
even If we accept the fact that Musharraf is a looter, fine but the point is who is speaking about corruption ? Mian Nawaz oh mere Allah, agar khud chor hun then I would just keep my bloody mouth shut, kion ke ussee to me bhi expose hunga na ? it is very logical, yaar hud hogai
1936 se kon sa business hae? Sabb tu bhutto ne nationalize ker diya tha agar kuch thaa bhi tu ... inn ke factories lagna shuru huee haen jabb NS finance minister banaa hae ... this baseless claim has been exposed today when Fawad gave EXACT years of opening of Shareef Empire factories aur siddique-ul-farooq ke pas koi jawaab nahin tha ... phir abidi jo retuns laaya hae 92 ki ... unn ke baare mein kya khayal hae? 92 mein 2 lakh tax dya company ein ... last year 50 crore :O ... oh haan .. 2 prie minister ki terms guzri haen beech mein...

Haan abhi wo ye claim shayad ker dein ke qaroon jaate hue apni daulat inn ke naam ker gya tha.
 

shiningstar

Minister (2k+ posts)
1936 se kon sa business hae? Sabb tu bhutto ne nationalize ker diya tha agar kuch thaa bhi tu ... inn ke factories lagna shuru huee haen jabb NS finance minister banaa hae ... this baseless claim has been exposed today when Fawad gave EXACT years of opening of Shareef Empire factories aur siddique-ul-farooq ke pas koi jawaab nahin tha ... phir abidi jo retuns laaya hae 92 ki ... unn ke baare mein kya khayal hae? 92 mein 2 lakh tax dya company ein ... last year 50 crore :O ... oh haan .. 2 prie minister ki terms guzri haen beech mein...

Haan abhi wo ye claim shayad ker dein ke qaroon jaate hue apni daulat inn ke naam ker gya tha.
aap pehlay kuch information lay lain phir comment karain tu answer krnay main bhe kuch maza aay ga. yea business NS nay shuru nai kya, NS ka father nay aur in ka cacha (jin ke abhe death hue hay) Mairaj Din nay 1937 shuru kya tha aur pakistan k top industrialist thay. bhutto nay nationalise kar lee tu inhoon nay 3 industries aur laga leen. aur 1973 tak 32000 employees thay. us k baad phir NS aur us ki family nay is business ko jare rakha. Fawad us waqt bacha tha, aur ghalat facts bata raha tha, at one stage siddiqulfarooq nay point out kya hai, listen carefully.
abidi wali returns main nay kya sadiqulfarooq nay bhe kabhe nai dhekeen, that might be real or tempered, I dont for sure. Itna mujay yakeen hai BHATTA lay kar aur Pakistani sale kr k nai aay paisay, sab declared hai.
 

Edangered

Citizen
aap pehlay kuch information lay lain phir comment karain tu answer krnay main bhe kuch maza aay ga. yea business NS nay shuru nai kya, NS ka father nay aur in ka cacha (jin ke abhe death hue hay) Mairaj Din nay 1937 shuru kya tha aur pakistan k top industrialist thay. bhutto nay nationalise kar lee tu inhoon nay 3 industries aur laga leen. aur 1973 tak 32000 employees thay. us k baad phir NS aur us ki family nay is business ko jare rakha. Fawad us waqt bacha tha, aur ghalat facts bata raha tha, at one stage siddiqulfarooq nay point out kya hai, listen carefully.
abidi wali returns main nay kya sadiqulfarooq nay bhe kabhe nai dhekeen, that might be real or tempered, I dont for sure. Itna mujay yakeen hai BHATTA lay kar aur Pakistani sale kr k nai aay paisay, sab declared hai.

what about the LOnNnnnGggg list of industries setup as soon as NS became finance minister? do you have any idea 32000 employees kitne hote haen? Mian Mansha aaj declared billionaire hae ... uss ki companies mein bhi almost 50,000 haen ... shareef baradraan ko bolo ... thori kamm choraa karein ... 73 mein bari families ki list mein inn ka naamkahiin bhi nahin hae ... it was all sehgals, dewan, adamjee, etc. aaj takk 73 ki nationalization mein bari families mein shareef family ka naam nahin sunaa kisi ne

haan .. aaj shayad 32000 employees hon ... lekin uss mein phir unn ki saari factories 80s mein lagi haen ... a VERY LONG list ...

mujhe hansi iss baat pe aati hae ke 13 sugar millein haen .. .phir siasi jalse mein kehte haen: "Awam pooch rahi hae ... cheeni kidher gayi ... Zardaari sahab ... aap zimmedaar haen" ... Sarkaar Nawaz Shareef Sahab, uss bechaare ki tu shayad 2-3 hi sugar mills haen ... 13 aap ki haen ... aap bataen kidher gayi chiini.
 

shiningstar

Minister (2k+ posts)
even If we accept the fact that Musharraf is a looter, fine but the point is who is speaking about corruption ? Mian Nawaz oh mere Allah, agar khud chor hun then I would just keep my bloody mouth shut, kion ke ussee to me bhi expose hunga na ? it is very logical, yaar hud hogai
that doesnt matter whether you accept or not, this is the reality that he is GHADDAR aand DALAL. In his book he has accepted that I have sold pakistanis and get money for that, and he has given an advertisement for sale of uranium and has house arrested our hero for years for the similar reason. He has taken extra consitituional step to dismiss the democratically elected govt. All the industries and money of NS is declared and he has given tax in billions.
What are tax and asset details of Musharraf?? He was a govt servent how he is staying in 5 star hotel in NewYork and have house in london???
 

Edangered

Citizen
that doesnt matter whether you accept or not, this is the reality that he is GHADDAR aand DALAL. In his book he has accepted that I have sold pakistanis and get money for that, and he has given an advertisement for sale of uranium and has house arrested our hero for years for the similar reason. He has taken extra consitituional step to dismiss the democratically elected govt. All the industries and money of NS is declared and he has given tax in billions.
What are tax and asset details of Musharraf?? He was a govt servent how he is staying in 5 star hotel in NewYork and have house in london???

oo yaar aaj takk kitaab nahin parhi lagta hae ... sirf noon league ke jhoote reps ki baat pe yakiin kerte ho that they used to say before Musharraf's reps start coming to shows?? There is a reason ke siddiq al farooq ne aaj ke show mein ye nahin kaha ke "Pakistanion ko becha aur apni kitaab mein likh diya" ... coz there is no such thing :D ... hamm jaesi awaam ko bewakoof banaaya hae in noon leagion ne jabb takk musharraf ki taraf se jawab dene waala koi nahin tha ..go read the book yourself ... if you are not interested ... here is what is in the book: "Al Qaeda fighters jo ishtahaari mujrim the international law ke under, wo pakistan ne pakre aur amrika ko diye" ... aur jo bounty money aaya hae uss ka wo qaumi khazaane mein hae ... agar aek dollar bhi liya hota musharraf ne tu noon league waale logon ko rooz sone se pehle aur uthne ke baad 10 dafa bataate aur apni "so called charge sheet" mein 14 ke 14 pooints yahi likhte ... grow up man ..

Musharraf is a renowned speaker globally and he charges close to 200K USD for each lecture that he delivers in world's prominent universities like Stanford, etc. and think tanks and forums. Issi liye uss ke aek flat ko koi question nahin kerta!

http://www.newsweek.com/2008/08/22/musharraf-in-the-money.html
 

shiningstar

Minister (2k+ posts)
what about the LOnNnnnGggg list of industries setup as soon as NS became finance minister? do you have any idea 32000 employees kitne hote haen? Mian Mansha aaj declared billionaire hae ... uss ki companies mein bhi almost 50,000 haen ... shareef baradraan ko bolo ... thori kamm choraa karein ... 73 mein bari families ki list mein inn ka naamkahiin bhi nahin hae ... it was all sehgals, dewan, adamjee, etc. aaj takk 73 ki nationalization mein bari families mein shareef family ka naam nahin sunaa kisi ne

haan .. aaj shayad 32000 employees hon ... lekin uss mein phir unn ki saari factories 80s mein lagi haen ... a VERY LONG list ...

mujhe hansi iss baat pe aati hae ke 13 sugar millein haen .. .phir siasi jalse mein kehte haen: "Awam pooch rahi hae ... cheeni kidher gayi ... Zardaari sahab ... aap zimmedaar haen" ... Sarkaar Nawaz Shareef Sahab, uss bechaare ki tu shayad 2-3 hi sugar mills haen ... 13 aap ki haen ... aap bataen kidher gayi chiini.
The word LongList does not fits for NS, you are trusting the person who have advertised sale of uranium mistakenly, this is their another mistake to give wrong details. Actually you cant see anything beyond political rivalry, if you are very interesed then ask them for details but dont blame without any reason or proof.

sugar ki price barhnay ki wajha proper time par import na hona aur hoarding hai. There was no sugar in the mills and our improper system is repsonsible for it. aap nay dushmni main Zardari ko becchara keh dya jis ka kuch bhe declared nai, france ka palace ya saray palace which he has not accpeted for many years and then some years back he has sold it to some Indian.
 

Edangered

Citizen
The word LongList does not fits for NS, you are trusting the person who have advertised sale of uranium mistakenly, this is their another mistake to give wrong details. Actually you cant see anything beyond political rivalry, if you are very interesed then ask them for details but dont blame without any reason or proof.

sugar ki price barhnay ki wajha proper time par import na hona aur hoarding hai. There was no sugar in the mills and our improper system is repsonsible for it. aap nay dushmni main Zardari ko becchara keh dya jis ka kuch bhe declared nai, france ka palace ya saray palace which he has not accpeted for many years and then some years back he has sold it to some Indian.

paa ji ... SECP bhi idher hi hae jahan se APML record nikaal ke layii hae ... agar list ghalat hae tu I will expect a denial with SECP's registration proofs from Nawaz Shariif in 1 week or so ... Aap khud bhi jaa ke dekh sakte haen agar yakiin nahin hae aap ko iss LONG LIST ki sachaaii pe... Na ghoraa duur na maedaan ... kya khyaal hae?
 

Classified

Senator (1k+ posts)









Congrats and kudos to Ch. Fawwad & all team of APML on exposing the real corrupt doity doity face of Nawaz sharif ! Rat siddiq al Farooq must had blackouts many times during the show hehe
 

mrbaig

Senator (1k+ posts)
Bey eeman jhoota Nawas Sharif.Jiss ka takya kalam he"Allah k fazlo karam se".Agar dobara iqtidar mein aa gaya to kuch bhi nahin chore ga.
 

shiningstar

Minister (2k+ posts)
paa ji ... SECP bhi idher hi hae jahan se APML record nikaal ke layii hae ... agar list ghalat hae tu I will expect a denial with SECP's registration proofs from Nawaz Shariif in 1 week or so ... Aap khud bhi jaa ke dekh sakte haen agar yakiin nahin hae aap ko iss LONG LIST ki sachaaii pe... Na ghoraa duur na maedaan ... kya khyaal hae?
is ka aik he solution hai, 'NEUTRAL ACCOUNTABILITY COMMISSION', main nay aik example quote ki hai, jo log TERMINATION ko RETIREMENT main badal saktay hain, wo kuch bhe change aur ammend kar saktay hain. NS aur un ki family 1937 say business kar rahe hai, aur aab un ka baeta LONDON main bhe business kar raha, sub declared hai aur open hai, Zardari ki tarah FRENCH ENGRS nahen marwa k lya paisa, jis ka case abhe bhe chal raha hai.
 

shiningstar

Minister (2k+ posts)
oo yaar aaj takk kitaab nahin parhi lagta hae ... sirf noon league ke jhoote reps ki baat pe yakiin kerte ho that they used to say before Musharraf's reps start coming to shows?? There is a reason ke siddiq al farooq ne aaj ke show mein ye nahin kaha ke "Pakistanion ko becha aur apni kitaab mein likh diya" ... coz there is no such thing :D ... hamm jaesi awaam ko bewakoof banaaya hae in noon leagion ne jabb takk musharraf ki taraf se jawab dene waala koi nahin tha ..go read the book yourself ... if you are not interested ... here is what is in the book: "Al Qaeda fighters jo ishtahaari mujrim the international law ke under, wo pakistan ne pakre aur amrika ko diye" ... aur jo bounty money aaya hae uss ka wo qaumi khazaane mein hae ... agar aek dollar bhi liya hota musharraf ne tu noon league waale logon ko rooz sone se pehle aur uthne ke baad 10 dafa bataate aur apni "so called charge sheet" mein 14 ke 14 pooints yahi likhte ... grow up man ..

Musharraf is a renowned speaker globally and he charges close to 200K USD for each lecture that he delivers in world's prominent universities like Stanford, etc. and think tanks and forums. Issi liye uss ke aek flat ko koi question nahin kerta!

http://www.newsweek.com/2008/08/22/musharraf-in-the-money.html
waisay mujay sharam ae hai, jab aap nay aik DARPOOK aur DALAL ki support ki hai aur usay farishta prove krnay ki khoshish ki hai, jis nay so-called ALQAIDA (aap mujay AL-QAIDA ka intro krwa dain, saray selfmade intro hain, pata nai kahan exist krte hai, main aap say kahun ga, padaehshi GHULAMOON, kuch apnay damag say bhe sooch lia karo) keh kar saray pakistanio ko becha hai. jis nay AFIA SIDDIQUI ko becha hai, jis main himat nai Pakistan anay ki, jis nay extra constituional step lya, jis nay pakistan ko kargil main ruswa kya, jis nay lal masjid main logon ko mara etc etc. Noon league nay 14 points waisay kum likhay hain, is ki badmashiyan 1400 hain.

GLOBALLY reknowned speaker hona koi standard nai hai. dunya badhe pare hai reknowned SPEAKERS say yea logics apnay pass rakho. wo 200USD lay ya 2000USD lay, we never care, he should declare his assets and should tell us about how much tax he hs paid like NS has declared everything. He should answer about his extra constituional step that he has taken to dismiss elected democrated govt, aur buzdil comando ko kahun ga. HIMAT hay tu pakistan aay.
 

hassam

MPA (400+ posts)
بہت زبردست پروگرام ہے . وہ ڈیشنگ پن اور دی پرل کہاں ہیں ہا ہا میرے خیال میں یہ پروگرام دیکھنے کے بعد خود کشی کر لی ہو گی اور اگر زندہ ہیں تو یہ پروگرام دیکھیں اور سنجیدگی سے پیٹرول یا پھر کوئی کیڑے مار دوا پینے پے غور کریں ! میرے خدایا ! اس قدر دولت تو شاید قارون نے ہی سمیٹی ہوگی یا پھر اوپر بیٹھ کر نواز شریف اور زرداری کو دیکھ کر شرمندہ ہوتا ہوگا ! ایک سوال جو بہت ہی سنجیدہ ہے وہ یہ کے کیا یہ ناجائز طریقے سے کمائی ہوئی دولت واپس پاکستان میں آ سکتی ہے ؟ اگر آ سکتی ہے تو پھر کیسے ؟

I was also looking for a comment from Dashin pun. I think he must be stirring up a new thread about khidmat of Khadime-e-ala.
 

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