MQM - Shuhda-e-Haq - Documentary

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shrf390

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YES SCUCH HAY SUCH HAY WITH FULL REFRENCE

Judge orders deportation of Pakistani party chief

Stewart Bell
National Post
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Wednesday, July 18, 2007

The head of the Quebec branch of a Pakistani political party is facing deportation after the Federal Court of Canada ruled he belonged to an organization that committed terrorism.
The judge upheld the deportation of Mohammed Kashif Omer, a resident of Montreal, on the grounds he is a member of the Mothaidda Quami Movement, or MQM.
It is the second time this year Canadian courts have ruled the MQM party meets the legal definition of a terrorist organization.
Mr. Omer is one of dozens of Pakistanis whom Canadian immigration authorities are trying to deport because of their involvement in the MQM.
Despite being blamed for the kidnapping, torture and murder of its political rivals in Pakistan, the MQM has opened a Canadian branch called MQM-Canada.
Members of the group have worked on Conservative election campaigns, met Prime Minister Stephen Harper and recently hosted a conference in Calgary.
Conservative MP Art Hanger spoke at the June 8-10 MQM Canada convention, which was attended by several Pakistanis who are being deported for their alleged involvement in terrorism. Mr. Hanger said he did not support the group. Conservative MLA Shiraz Shariff also attended. He said yesterday he was unaware Canadian courts had deemed the MQM a terrorist organization. "Why are we as a nation then allowing them to have a congregation here?" he said.
Among the speakers at the convention was Mr. Omer, who presented a report on the "achievements and future strategy" of the Montreal office of MQM, according to the group's Web Site.
Mr. Omer has no immigration status in Canada. A Canada Border Services Agency spokesman, Erik Paradis, said the court ruling means that the deportation order against Mr. Omer is now in effect.
The MQM is a Pakistani political party that is part of President Pervez Musharraf's ruling coalition. The Canadian MQM branch has never been accused of illegal activities but in Pakistan the party has been blamed for widespread violence, most recently in May when gunfights between the MQM and anti-government demonstrators left more than 40 dead.
MQM officials deny any role in attacks and say they are victims of misinformation spread by Pakistani authorities. Canada's Security Intelligence Review Committee has been looking into complaints from MQM members that immigration authorities have unfairly branded them as terrorists.
Mr. Omer came to Canada in 1998 and was granted refugee status but in 2005 immigration officials said he could not remain in Canada "because he knowingly and for a long period of time belonged to an organization that has engaged in terrorism."
In Pakistan, Mr. Omer had been a member of the MQM and its student wing from 1987 to 1998. He denied any involvement with the MQM in Canada but eventually acknowledged he was in charge of the MQM's Quebec office.
The Immigration and Refugee Board said "Mr. Omer's reasons for trying to hide that, in Canada, he is responsible for the Montreal section of the MQM-Canada lead me to believe that he knew that his party was committing many violent acts."
He appealed the decision to the Federal Court, arguing that the MQM is not a terrorist organization and that the violence was committed by rogue elements in the party, but the court was not convinced.
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National Post 2007

BORI BUND LASHOON KA ATTA HAY ZAMANA

[altaf] YEH JHOOT HEY JHOOT HEY ABOUT [altaf] ?

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avatar

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shrf390 said:
[altaf] FRADIAYS, THUGS, BHATTA KHOUR, CHOOOR, DAKOOK RISHWAT KHOOR,= MUNAFQEEN QATILS & QADIANIES MOVEMENT [altaf]

ITNI QUALITIES HONE KY BAWAJOOD LOG MQM SAY KITNA PAYAR KARTE HAIN. RECORD VOTE LAY JATE HAIN. THEY HAVE 52 MPAs AND 25 MNAs AND 3 Senitor lots of Nazims.
Jalte rahoo, esi bakte rahoo. We have never listen you nor will listen you. Burn your blood. Bhonkte rahoo yehee tumra kam hy. :lol: :lol:
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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To "shrf390" & "rahat"
One held for killing 3,869 people

One held for killing 3,869 people

KARACHI: The CIA police arrested a man allegedly involved in more than 3,869 killings and affiliated with MQM. This was disclosed at a press conference addressed by SSP CIA Manzoor Mughal at CIA Center Saddar on Thursday.

The SSP said a CIA raiding team under Inspector Javed Anjum, acting on a tip, arrested Shakeel alias Chikna from Islamabad when he was trying to flee the country on a forged passport. At the time of arrest he was so chikna that FIA official had to soak their hands in boric powder to hold him. FIA also recovered 127 passports of different countries in his pocket.

It was also revealed that his plan-B was to hijack a 2-seater PAF F-16 fighter plane, later to be flown to London. He also confessed that he had already arranged for three in-flight refueling events for his flight.

Mughal said during initial interrogation the accused disclosed that he was involved in murdering some 3,869 people. He said Shakeel joined MQM in 1939 and killed people on instructions of the party. He also kidnapped more than 17,000 people, took them to torture cells and shot them dead with his dagger. He would also keep a blood sample of his victims in Roh-e-Afza bottles. Those bottles have already been sent to Hamdard Labs for analysis.

The accused confessed that he was involved in 1,254 police encounters and also managed to provide fake sureties to the courts for the release of his comrades including Ashfaq Geela and Haji aka Passport. Shakeel collected 2,000,000,000,000,000,000 Euro through extortion and gave the cash to the party leaders. He also looted 3,472 Bank of America branches in Mardan and handed over the cash to the iftar party.

He also set ablaze some 74,308 shops including one pan shop, three 'thaila' of sweet potatoe, one tri-cycle of his neighbour's 4-year old son. He was also involved in setting the house of editor Takbeer Salahuddin on fire during which one of his comrades was burnt alive because he had sprinkled petrol over his comrades body by mistake. During various strikes called by the party, he torched some 87,829 vehicles mostly 1999 model which also included a BMW from Senetor Saif's showroom. He also set on fire a Shalimar express train at Orangi Railway Station.

He told SSP that he used to collect the shells of unexploded fire crackers the day after every Shab-e-Baraat to use their masala to make a bigger bomb. He claimed that he filed a patent for his bomb, long before Kahuta Labs did. When asked what kind of bomb was that, he replied "Un-clear". He said that the bomb is stored in the bathroom of Editor-in-Chief of the Jang Group, Mir Shakilur Rehman. About 36 'dibri' fuses were also recoverd from him.

He alleged that the MQM chief was trying to divide the country into 50 states and iftar party leaders Abdul Sattar Edhi, Wasim Bari, Zulqernain Haider, Khalid Anam, Athar Shah Khan, Rangela, Ismail Tara and others were working for the purpose.

The SSP alleged that the party had established one torture cell on the top floor of Habib Bank Plaza in Nazimabad which were run by Naeem Fire Brigade Wala, Usman Ambulance, Tariq Mobile, Mooda Tain Patas, Rashid Sabziwala, Maqbool Chaddi, Nawaz Diaper, Khawar aka Pakhtoon, Ilyas Kaamchori, Naeem aka Poosti, Javed Montreal, Naveed Punjabi. SSP also disclosed that one person's aka could not be established.

Meanwhile, the CIA police found his car in Karachi and recovered 24 Kalashnikovs, 89 pistols, thirteen revolvers, one bazooka, 5 flame throwers, one 'Silk-Worm' chinese made anti-ship missile, one poster of Madhuri Dixit from the trunk of his car. He was declared an Indian agent at the spot and his case was sent to Military Court for a swift trial.
 

FlyHigh

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We have been discussing these allegations against MQM under various threads. Not once have jury, pakpaatriot and others admitted any wrong doing by MQM. Now we have Nadia in theri group.

Almost 9000 NRO beneficiaries and almost 90% are crimminal cases from Sindh and from this 90% majority of the cases are against MQM. Instead of going back and forth and wasting time let us wait what the honorable CJ of Pakistan decides.
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: MQM - Shuda-e-Haq - Documentary

Food for Thought

Only a few of Mohajirs have gone to the top like Saeed uz Zaman Siddiqui but then a bigger percentage who have achieved some status have worked against Pakitan's interes.

Zia Ul Haq - Mohajir
Musharraf - Mohajir

Are they better off going back to India?
 

adnanax

Voter (50+ posts)
bus yehi kahani hai mqm ki.....jab koi facts pay bat karta hai tu randi roona shurru hoo jata hai.

apnay khilaf operation pay tu bohat shorr machta hai leekin sarhad aur swat mai operation ki hamayat hoti hai....rahat nay itni detail mai ek post ki jis mai news papers kay refernces thay leekin uss ka jawab deena kissi nay munasab nahi samjha. mqm par koi bhi case hoo woh jhoota hi kyun hota hai.
 

rahat

Senator (1k+ posts)
This so-called educated class of Karachi is actually the privileged class, and they are exploiting the nation since long. They occupied all the resources and still want more.
These are selfish opportunists peoples, who were neither sincere with the creation of Pakistan, nor they migrated to Pakistan in 1947.
They came after selling their belongings and obtain fake properties papers/ education degrees and then came without any trouble to Pakistan and start occupying the properties / jobs on these fake papers.

Now the whole nation knows them well.

Zardari is still supporting these peoples to get his political gain, but in future these terrorist / privileged class peoples will be treated with what they deserved
The real fact behind the worst situation in Karachi is that MQM is trying to divert the investigation of Karachi incident.

The report has established MQM involvement in that incident. Now MQM is trying to create a situation where they are forcing the zardari Government to destroy this investigation and to get free the peoples arrested in this connection.
MQM killed poor Balauch / Pashtoon to create an ethnical clash in Karachi, so the real issue can of MQM terrorist / looting in Karachi incident will buried like other investigations.

In this connection MQM is using Shia leaders to demand the release of persons arrested in this connection.

However, the zardari government is bowing to MQM and they are not taking action. It is evident from the remarks of Rehman Malik, when he got the investigation report in which it is established that MQM was behind the Karachi incident.

Rehman Malik said that he asked the investigators to investigate more, which clearly indicates the government intention to protect MQM to save the government.

It is interesting to note that USA ambassador to Pakistan visited 90 and assured MQM their support to clear them from the incident and after that visit MQM has initiated terrorist activities against poor peoples of Karachi.

But now time has come to expose these MQM terrorists activities and their masters, who are the enemies of Pakistan and the nation.
 

syed_nd

MPA (400+ posts)
spartacus shaam kay akhbaar main khabbar ayee or tum nay yaqeen kar liya wali baat aisay he hai jaisa kay tum nay kaha kay sipah sahaba magar bhaee tum sipah e sahaba kay aik leader ka bayaan nahi dikhla saktay kay un ko bahadur ali say koee shikayat thee haa magar mqm ko bahadur ali kay (cheeray) marnay say baree shikayat thee or meri yaddasht kay mutabiq fahim commando jisse police nay giriftaar kia or uss nay kaha kay uss ka bhaee bahadur ali kay saath police muqablay main mara gaya tha to ussay us ka ghussa tha iss liye us nay bahadur ali to qatal kia
 

FlyHigh

Senator (1k+ posts)
syed_nd said:
spartacus shaam kay akhbaar main khabbar ayee or tum nay yaqeen kar liya wali baat aisay he hai jaisa kay tum nay kaha kay sipah sahaba magar bhaee tum sipah e sahaba kay aik leader ka bayaan nahi dikhla saktay kay un ko bahadur ali say koee shikayat thee haa magar mqm ko bahadur ali kay (cheeray) marnay say baree shikayat thee or meri yaddasht kay mutabiq fahim commando jisse police nay giriftaar kia or uss nay kaha kay uss ka bhaee bahadur ali kay saath police muqablay main mara gaya tha to ussay us ka ghussa tha iss liye us nay bahadur ali to qatal kia

Syed we can all sing together till the fat lady sings or the cows come home, but these MQM goons like the Indians in Kashmir or the Israelis in Palestine will never admit to the crimes committed by their terror leaders.
 

Muttahaida

Councller (250+ posts)
BaAHADUR ALI sharif admi???? acha hoa kuttey ki moot mara allah us ko jhannum ata karay ameen summa ameen or un ko bhi jo us ko sharif kehtey hai ameen summa ameen.

"sham ka waqt tha or hum cricket khailrahay tha" abay o bhai ye tamashay mat kia karo choro 420
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Muttahaida said:
BaAHADUR ALI sharif admi???? acha hoa kuttey ki moot mara allah us ko jhannum ata karay ameen summa ameen or un ko bhi jo us ko sharif kehtey hai ameen summa ameen.

"sham ka waqt tha or hum cricket khailrahay tha" abay o bhai ye tamashay mat kia karo choro 420

Allah Ta'ala Sab Katilon Ko Kuttay Ki Mot Maray,
Un Ko Jahanam Wasil Karay aur Un Ko Bhi Jo Un Ko Follow Kartay Hain.
Ameen Summa Ameen
 

Paki_Loyal

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Muttahida, mujhey dukh hota hai tum logo ke soch jaan ker, tum log wahi ho jin k baray main kaha gaya tha, k tumhari safho main fitnay majood ho gay, aur tum un main se aik ho, aik taraf shalwar qameez pehannay walay fitnay, doosri taraf shirk kerne walay clean shave jeans pehnay Fitney, Allah k ihkamat ko paray rekhtey howay tum logo ne Altaf Hussain ko Naouz Billah apna Khuda bana rekha hai, asal main qasoor aap logo ka nahi, ye qasoor uss mahol ka hai jis main tumharey baro ne aankhein kholi, jahan hewan aur insan ko khuda samjha jata hai, aur iss se bala nazar k uss insan(Khuda) yanhi k altaf hussain ka character kia hai, Qadiyani to wo ho gaya hai,, ab baqi kya reh jata hai, tum log ussey defend ker ker k apnay gunaho main izafa kertey ja rahay ho, shaied tum logo ko ye tameez hai k nahi, k islam main gunah naam ke bhe koi cheaz hai, aur jis ka hisab roz e qayamat khud dena parey ga,, mujhey nahi lagta k tum logo ko jhoot aur such main tameez maloom hai,, sorry to say, kisi barey aalim k paas jaao, aur usey kaho k main jhoot ko defend kertay aaya hoo, aik insan ko khuda samjhtay aaya hoo, aur phir poochna k kia main ab tak muslim hoo ya main islam se bahir ho chuka hoowa hoo,,
 

jazbaedil

Voter (50+ posts)
why is it even debated here that mqm is THE biggest terrorist mafia of pakistan??? its a fact and there should not be any debate about facts. earth has gravity, its a fact , and we dont debate it, likewise there is no debate about mqm being a terrorist party. are we all blinds or deaf? or what? cant we not know what is going on in karachi right now? balouchis are the new food for this terrorist mafia.
 

avatar

Councller (250+ posts)
GeoG said:
Muttahaida said:
BaAHADUR ALI sharif admi???? acha hoa kuttey ki moot mara allah us ko jhannum ata karay ameen summa ameen or un ko bhi jo us ko sharif kehtey hai ameen summa ameen.

"sham ka waqt tha or hum cricket khailrahay tha" abay o bhai ye tamashay mat kia karo choro 420

Allah Ta'ala Sab Katilon Ko ***** Ki Mot Maray,
Un Ko Jahanam Wasil Karay aur Un Ko Bhi Jo Un Ko Follow Kartay Hain.
Ameen Summa Ameen

Phaly AbbaG and GASindh now GeoG, most common thing in his all IDs is G. . hahahah hahahah :lol: :lol:
 

karachi

MPA (400+ posts)
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GeoG said:
@Spartacus, Jury

I have read the argument from you and from Paki Loyal.
Can you please explain that why is the perception of all other communities against MQM not Mohajirs.

Twenty years has passed and during this time MQM has been ruling and no inquiry has cleared MQM.
Why MQM to take advantage of NRO for clearing all murders, including against Altaf Hussain.

Dal Main Kuch To Kalla Hai and Dal Bananay Waley Yeh Zaroor Jantay Hon Gay, So I guess you can explain better that why Sindhis, Punjabis, Pathans, Baluchis and even some Mohajirs are against MQM.

An honest answer, no politics, may be it will help me to understand MQM better.
No Paper Cuttings please.

Regards.

if i m not wrong (do correct me)

GeoG can u remember this quote

abbasiali said:
GASindh If you think Nadia is a repeat ID, what about your self, what was your earlier ID

pls do correct me
 

Muttahaida

Councller (250+ posts)
Paki_Loyal said:
Muttahida, mujhey dukh hota hai tum logo ke soch jaan ker, tum log wahi ho jin k baray main kaha gaya tha, k tumhari safho main fitnay majood ho gay, aur tum un main se aik ho, aik taraf shalwar qameez pehannay walay fitnay, doosri taraf shirk kerne walay clean shave jeans pehnay Fitney, Allah k ihkamat ko paray rekhtey howay tum logo ne Altaf Hussain ko Naouz Billah apna Khuda bana rekha hai, asal main qasoor aap logo ka nahi, ye qasoor uss mahol ka hai jis main tumharey baro ne aankhein kholi, jahan hewan aur insan ko khuda samjha jata hai, aur iss se bala nazar k uss insan(Khuda) yanhi k altaf hussain ka character kia hai, Qadiyani to wo ho gaya hai,, ab baqi kya reh jata hai, tum log ussey defend ker ker k apnay gunaho main izafa kertey ja rahay ho, shaied tum logo ko ye tameez hai k nahi, k islam main gunah naam ke bhe koi cheaz hai, aur jis ka hisab roz e qayamat khud dena parey ga,, mujhey nahi lagta k tum logo ko jhoot aur such main tameez maloom hai,, sorry to say, kisi barey aalim k paas jaao, aur usey kaho k main jhoot ko defend kertay aaya hoo, aik insan ko khuda samjhtay aaya hoo, aur phir poochna k kia main ab tak muslim hoo ya main islam se bahir ho chuka hoowa hoo,,



hamay fitna boltay ho or khud fitna pehlatey ho kisi per jhoota bhotan laganay walo per allah ki lanat tum nai altaf hussain per qadyaniat ka ilzam lagaya tum per meri lanat or tujhey dukh horaha hai tu hai kon bai hum karachi mai rehtey hai hamai yaha ki asliyat pata hai tum log ho fitna ger jo sirif fasad machatay ho jab hamarey log mertey hai tum janwer hum per tana kashi kertey ho dafa door bako or bako lakin is bar hum apanay logo kai katlo ko nahi chorey gai inshallah allah wo waqt na laye magar aya tou inshallah kharay hogai apni safo mai sai tum jaisa janwero ka manshiat farosho ka or fitna pehlanai walo ka ilaj karay gai
 

rahat

Senator (1k+ posts)
This recent meetings of Governor with MQM and PPP, expose MQM tacties to Blackmail the others and to hide their crimes. It is the way that present Zardari gocerment, which is losing its grounds due to their corruption will bow before MQM to divert the investigations of karachi incident and that will be buried under their political benefits.
Zardari goverment has no courage to expose these culprits as they are also partner with MQM in corruption.
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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karachi said:
pls do correct me

Your Damage is Beyond Repairs, Can't be corrected. Scrap Main Bhi Syad Kuch Na Milay, sorry Can't help you.
 

Cupertino

Voter (50+ posts)
rahat said:
......... This so-called educated class of Karachi is actually the privileged class, and they are exploiting the nation since long. They occupied all the resources and still want more. These are selfish opportunists peoples, who were neither sincere with the creation of Pakistan, nor they migrated to Pakistan in 1947........

'They occupied all the resources and still want more" ....... This one statement shows your lack of knowledge and depth of hatred towards Mohajirs. Karachi contribute 60-70% to country's revenue and hardly gets 2-3% in return. That's the reason Punjab don't want NFC award on the basis of revenue generation.

"Privileged class" ..... A unique quota system for civil services job was introduced in 70's to isolate and target the Mohajirs in urban Sind. This urban-rural quota system is unique to Sind and does not apply to other provinces of Pakistan. You may consider this as a privilege of being a Mohajir from Urban Sind.

Yes, what I truly feel privileged about is the fact that the creator and founder of the nation, Muhammad Ali Jinnah, was born in Karachi and if he was alive today then his ethnic classification would have been a Pakistani and a Mohajir from Karachi.
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Cupertino said:
rahat said:
......... This so-called educated class of Karachi is actually the privileged class, and they are exploiting the nation since long. They occupied all the resources and still want more. These are selfish opportunists peoples, who were neither sincere with the creation of Pakistan, nor they migrated to Pakistan in 1947........

'They occupied all the resources and still want more" ....... This one statement shows your lack of knowledge and depth of hatred towards Mohajirs. Karachi contribute 60-70% to country's revenue and hardly gets 2-3% in return. That's the reason Punjab don't want NFC award on the basis of revenue generation.

"Privileged class" ..... A unique quota system for civil services job was introduced in 70's to isolate and target the Mohajirs in urban Sind. This urban-rural quota system is unique to Sind and does not apply to other provinces of Pakistan. You may consider this as a privilege of being a Mohajir from Urban Sind.

Yes, what I truly feel privileged about is the fact that the creator and founder of the nation, Muhammad Ali Jinnah, was born in Karachi and if he was alive today then his ethnic classification would have been a Pakistani and a Mohajir from Karachi.
Cupertino
Great reply!
You've made my day.
 
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