MQM Presents Land Reforms Bill in assembly

[rahat]

No one from the MQM replied my earlier post. Read it carefully and then analyize the so-called drama of MQM reprentative of elite classes:

I think that most of the politic ans make "FOOL" to the peoples of urban centers by raising the issues of "LAND Reforms".
What is is the real issue we faces is the non implementation of "RULE OF LAW" in urban/rural areas of the country.
From the first day of creation of Pakistan, the urban elite is governing the nation. The hard earning (National wealth) of the rural formers was/is wasted and invested on the urban centers and the majority of the nation denied their due share.
Now look into the existing realities. Most of the agriculture center, who is the real generator of national wealth consists of 98% of middle class formers, having a land ranging from 12 to 200 acres.
Only about 10% of land belongs to "Big Waderas". The issue should be to levy tax on all the peoples in the present scenario.
If, we compare the "Rupee" values of land of most of the farmers with a house of 500 sq. yds in dafence authority, Karachi, then the value of real generator of farmer will be very less as compare to the house in dafence.
Therefore, in this scenario, we can say that we should limit the assets of all citizens including farmers, industrialists, in the shape of house, land and all other form of assets.

The only way to implement this system is to adopt the system of "QURAN", free from "RIBA OR INTEREST" and then limit the land/ estate, industry etc.

It is the only way for the survival of mankind and all others slogans are just to make FOOL to the peoples.

 

[shiningstar]

What a Knowledge
Door K Dhol Soohane...........

It seems that now you have got the point and I am happy for that.

 

[A.Ali.T]

No one from the MQM replied my earlier post. Read it carefully and then analyize the so-called drama of MQM reprentative of elite classes:

I think that most of the politic ans make "FOOL" to the peoples of urban centers by raising the issues of "LAND Reforms".
What is is the real issue we faces is the non implementation of "RULE OF LAW" in urban/rural areas of the country.
From the first day of creation of Pakistan, the urban elite is governing the nation. The hard earning (National wealth) of the rural formers was/is wasted and invested on the urban centers and the majority of the nation denied their due share.
Now look into the existing realities. Most of the agriculture center, who is the real generator of national wealth consists of 98% of middle class formers, having a land ranging from 12 to 200 acres.
Only about 10% of land belongs to "Big Waderas". The issue should be to levy tax on all the peoples in the present scenario.
If, we compare the "Rupee" values of land of most of the farmers with a house of 500 sq. yds in dafence authority, Karachi, then the value of real generator of farmer will be very less as compare to the house in dafence.
Therefore, in this scenario, we can say that we should limit the assets of all citizens including farmers, industrialists, in the shape of house, land and all other form of assets.

The only way to implement this system is to adopt the system of "QURAN", free from "RIBA OR INTEREST" and then limit the land/ estate, industry etc.

It is the only way for the survival of mankind and all others slogans are just to make FOOL to the peoples.

Rahat
I do not represent MQM, however I would like to discuss all the issues you have raised, but I want to do it one or two at a time, so that both of us can understand each others point of view.

Let us clarify couple of things before we proceed.

First of all I am not one of those who want to punish some one for their success. However, what I believe in is that if some one owns any property, they must pay applicable property taxes and also must pay income tax, if those properties are generating any income. Any property tax paid on the said properties should be tax deductible.

Secondly, any and each financial transaction should be taxable. For example if some one transfers their property to their children as gift, then the children must pay "Gift Tax", or if some one inherits property they must pay "Inheritance tax".

Above are couple of rules that I believe in, I shall tell you few other things if our conversation proceeds any further.

Now, please clarify what do you mean when you said, Only about 10% of land belongs to "Big Waderas". Do you mean that 90% of land belongs to small farmers?

Secondly you said, If, we compare the "Rupee" values of land of most of the farmers with a house of 500 sq. yds in dafence authority, Karachi, then the value of real generator of farmer will be very less as compare to the house in dafence. That may be true if you are talking about a small farm, what about those farms that spread over hundreds and thousands of acres? I don't think MQM is talking about penalizing small farmers, they are talking about big landlords, who are not involved in active farming, rather they are receiving passive income from those farms by leasing to small "haris". However, I do realize one thing that residential property owners in big cities such as Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad, where the real estate value is very high, are not paying real estate or property taxes based on the true valuation of their properties. In my opinion our first priority should be to reform the method by which we valuate real estate properties and by which we collect various taxes.

I was hoping to be brief in my post, but the problem is so big that I could not limit it to few sentences.

 

[Night Devil]

Kya aap Logo me Kisi Achi Baat ko Appriciate Karne Ka Hosla He ???

tauseef-it bhai.. hosla kahan sey ayega?? jin ki raaton ki neendein urhh gai hoo... hosla to buhat dooooooorrrrrrr ki bat hey....... yahan to fikar lag gai hey PAINDO jaageerdar / waderaoo / Chohdirayo ko, k unho ney apni aulado or un ki aulado or un ki bhi auladoo or un ki auladoo ki bhi auladoo k liye jo 1000's 1000's of acer zameen rakhi hoi hey wo zameen HAARI/KISANO mein distribute karny ki baat horahi hey...... orr ap hosala karny ki baat karty hoo kuch to sharam karoo Q becharoo ki haata rahey hoo???? kia bigara hey aakhire in zameendaro/wadeero or chohdirayo ney tumhara ya pakistan ka???? jo tum es tarha ki baat kar rahy hoo??? SORRY KAROO JALDI SEY... :P

 

[Night Devil]

Who nominated Zardari(a wadeera) for president?
Now land reforms bill seems just a topi drama.

chohudry sahab, zardari ko As Persident nominated PML (N) ney bhi kia hey QK federal mein PPP k bad PML (N) ki sub sy ziyada seats hein.. MQM ki to sirf 3, 4 seats hein federal mey.... but PML (N) ney federal GOVT required ministries na milny k waja sy choor di... or provisional govt es liye nahi chori k wahan to already required ministries winner thy..... or provision govt bhi federal k under hey ab tak... provision govt is still not independent.... its mean k PML(N) bhi topi drama kar rahi hey opposition ban kar or continuously drama he kar rahi hey friendly opposition ban kar.....

 

[rahat]

 

[shiningstar]

chohudry sahab, zardari ko As Persident nominated PML (N) ney bhi kia hey QK federal mein PPP k bad PML (N) ki sub sy ziyada seats hein.. MQM ki to sirf 3, 4 seats hein federal mey.... but PML (N) ney federal GOVT required ministries na milny k waja sy choor di... or provisional govt es liye nahi chori k wahan to already required ministries winner thy..... or provision govt bhi federal k under hey ab tak... provision govt is still not independent.... its mean k PML(N) bhi topi drama kar rahi hey opposition ban kar or continuously drama he kar rahi hey friendly opposition ban kar.....

your reply states that you are totally unaware of the situation and your lack of information has resulted in baseless analysis, please read it once more and come up with some solid point. Also look at the portions highlighted in BOLD as they are totally wrong.

 

[tauseef-it]

It seems that now you have got the point and I am happy for that.

MoGenbo Khoosh Huwa (clap) (clap) (clap)

 

[tauseef-it]

UMMAT Akhbar Zindabaad
Jis ki Koi Nahe Sunta, Wo Ummat Ki Sunta he [hilar] [hilar] [hilar]

 

[tauseef-it]

your reply states that you are totally unaware of the situation and your lack of information has resulted in baseless analysis, please read it once more and come up with some solid point. Also look at the portions highlighted in BOLD as they are totally wrong.

All are wrong but only U r Right... (bigsmile)

 

[kashmiri]

Altaf bhai zindabad. Koi ni hy hamsa jo samnay aee.

:13::13::13:
"samnay aee"
Sardeeon main snake zameen ka under chalay jatay hain
or ALtaf bai ke sardeen hatam nahi hoee

kasee samnay aaeee
:angry_smile:

 

[tauseef-it]

:13::13::13:
"samnay aee"
Sardeeon main snake zameen ka under chalay jatay hain
or ALtaf bai ke sardeen hatam nahi hoee

kasee samnay aaeee
:angry_smile:

Kashmiri Bhai !

Hosla Rakhein ............. :P

 

[atensari]

ایم کیو ایم کا قدم قابل تحسین ہے، الله کرے ان کی نیت صاف ہو.

 

[shiningstar]

All are wrong but only U r Right... (bigsmile)

"chohudry sahab, zardari ko As Persident nominated PML (N) ney bhi kia hey QK federal mein PPP k bad PML (N) ki sub sy ziyada seats hein.. MQM ki to sirf 3, 4 seats hein federal mey.... but PML (N) ney federal GOVT required ministries na milny k waja sy choor di... or provisional govt es liye nahi chori k wahan to already required ministries winner thy..... or provision govt bhi federal k under hey ab tak... provision govt is still not independent.... its mean k PML(N) bhi topi drama kar rahi hey opposition ban kar or continuously drama he kar rahi hey friendly opposition ban kar....."

In quotes above is the statement of Mr Night Devil, now you can read yourself and confirm me whether that GTT(GANG of Target Killers(Also known as MQM)) has 3,4 seats in federal,
pura parha karo meray bhai aur sakoon say parha karo.

 

[simple_and_peacefull]

Chaloo achha hai meh .. Keh samundar main ek kankar phiankha hai. Aab dekhna yea hai Keh samundar main toofan ataa hai ya phir pahlay ke tarah khamoosh ho jai ga....sattar sahab please sirf baatoun say khosh maat krain , bill ko pass kar Keh dekhain.

 

[simple_and_peacefull]

I suggest please handover FBR department to MQM juwaans. I m dam sure they will collect lot tax from everyone as they are expart in bhata collections...

 

[shiningstar]

I suggest please handover FBR department to MQM juwaans. I m dam sure they will collect lot tax from everyone as they are expart in bhata collections...

Your suggestion seems interesting but it can only work here in Karachi as the people cant do anything and are already frightened of being killed. People of other cities will send coffins of these GANGSTERS if they try to implement it like this way.

 

[rahat]

Another fraud and destroying the environment by The MQM with celebration of Nazim is the illegal allotment of the parks and getting a big money. In this way they did not only destroyed the environment but the main cause of the present day heat waves and increase in the temperature of Karachi.

The following link will clearly elaborate this great conspiracy by the MQM to achieve their sole aim of getting money and depriving peoples from their money spent to establish the parks in Karachi.
http://www.shehri.org/encroachments.pdf

Another achievement of MQM. After winning the title of biggest Terrorist organization, now MQM established biggest Land grabber in Karachi:

http://www.shehri.org/encroachments.pdf

Look yourself the proof taken by Global Earth.

These Land Grabber works of MQM involves billions of rupees of land located in the fully developed areas of Karachi. Not only they grabbed these land to accommodate MQM supporters but then the City Government Regularized these lands. Not only the land of Parks / Playground grabbed by these MQM but they also legalized and sold the land on the Nallas in Karachi.

 

[sknawaz]

My Dear be patient, I can feel your frustration by your repeated allegations, why are you trying to mix up the thing, if you have any compliant against anyone they you need to raise it properly, but at the same time if MQM have raised a valid question of Land Reforms you should appreciate it.

You criticism even on Land Reforms Bill because it is presented by MQM shows your hatred against MQM and even against the good work done by it, how should we take it? Sorry to say, I will take it as a SICK MENTALITY!!!

Another point, I would suggest you to quit blaming others without proof, today I am considering you sick, tomorrow everyone would consider you the same!

 

[sknawaz]

@..Raaz..Please go ahead and present a bill on that too, you might see your won people as guilty! ;)