MQM Loathing is Not Without Reason !!!

canadian

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
MQM Loathing is Not Without Reason

By Salman Mugsi May 26th, 2011
Did we need the revelation of wikileaks to know that the MQM is the number one terrorist party in the Karachi, and they are the ones who are responsible for all the target killing, crimes, kidnappings, street crimes, and all the bad things happening to the people of Karachi?
We, the people of Sindh and especially Karachi very well know that MQM has the armed gangs of thugs in every area. These armed gangs are involved in all kinds of crimes, and they send all the earnings to the London, and it also gets distributed in buying the people in police and establishment.
One of the biggest crime of Musharraf is that he distributed massive amount of arms among the MQM. Containers were brought to the shores of Karachi full of automatic weapons and MQM has enough stack of them now, which is being used upon the people of Karachi at every hour.
Only Karachiites can get rid of themselves from the MQM terrorism. Police is corrupt and MQM has managed to recruit its men in it, and establishment considers MQM its tool to carry on political shenanigans. So its now just the people versus MQM.

(http://www.pkhope.com/mqm-loathing-is-not-without-reason/)
 

Salik

Senator (1k+ posts)
We, the people of Sindh and especially Karachi very well know that MQM has the armed gangs of thugs in every area. These armed gangs are involved in all kinds of crimes, and they send all the “earnings” to the London, and it also gets distributed in buying the people in police and establishment.

We .. the people of Sind and elsewhere conveniently forget how the feudals in the Interior of Sind maintain their private jails, treat their Haris like some subhuman species... We conveniently forget .... Why Karachi is far ahead than Sukker, Larkana, Dadu, Thatta, Nawabshah... and why the rest of the cities (excluding Hyderabad) are still in the stone age... Why the poor from these cities have to travel to Karachi to get treatment... no education, no health facilities, no roads, nothing... and still... "only" MQM is the terrorist organization...

At least they care for the city they belong to...
 

xiaahmad

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
NEW MUKTI BHANI :

LONDON, Jan 27: Muttahida Qaumi Movement appears close to declaring unilateral declaration of independence as its chief Altaf Hussain on Thursday sounded, what he termed, "bugle" of war by warning the establishment that if killings of Mohajirs are not stopped he will have no other option but to launch an armed struggle and seek support from a neighbouring country. Talking to Pakistani reporters at MQM's international secretariat at Colindale area of London after its formal inauguration, the MQM chief said that he had tried every method while remaining within the four walls of the Constitution but the "Punjabi establishment" has refused to accept Mohajirs and the mandate given to the MQM by the people. "We are termed anti-Pakistani, agents of (Indian intelligence agency) RAW, and anti-state," he said while referring to the oft- repeated charges levelled by the intelligence agencies against his organization. A few years ago the ISI had claimed to have unearthed MQM's plan of creating "Jinnahpur" but the MQM had denied the plan and said it was a conspiracy to defame Mohajirs. Mr Hussain said the ISI from the very beginning had been accusing him as an agent of RAW, a charge he denied vehemently. The MQM chief regretted that despite all his assurances to the army and other authorities that neither he nor the MQM, nor Mohajirs were anti-Pakistani, they were being persistently pushed against the wall. Asked whether he was close to declaring unilateral declaration of independence, the MQM Chief said "Khuda Karey" (may God help in doing so). The MQM chief, who told the Pakistani establishment to take his today's statement as a "bugle" of war, said he was not anti- Pakistani and wanted to remain in Pakistan. SINDHI-MOHAJIR UNITY: Meanwhile the MQM chief in an open letter, said Sindh had virtually become a colony of Punjab, and that the Sindhis had been denied their rights. Addressing the people of Sindh, he asked them to give serious consideration to his letter, in which he posed the question: "Have the common Sindhis of the province of Sindh got freedom after the creation of Pakistan? "
 

canadian

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
NEW MUKTI BHANI :

LONDON, Jan 27: Muttahida Qaumi Movement appears close to declaring unilateral declaration of independence as its chief Altaf Hussain on Thursday sounded, what he termed, "bugle" of war by warning the establishment that if killings of Mohajirs are not stopped he will have no other option but to launch an armed struggle and seek support from a neighbouring country. Talking to Pakistani reporters at MQM's international secretariat at Colindale area of London after its formal inauguration, the MQM chief said that he had tried every method while remaining within the four walls of the Constitution but the "Punjabi establishment" has refused to accept Mohajirs and the mandate given to the MQM by the people. "We are termed anti-Pakistani, agents of (Indian intelligence agency) RAW, and anti-state," he said while referring to the oft- repeated charges levelled by the intelligence agencies against his organization. A few years ago the ISI had claimed to have unearthed MQM's plan of creating "Jinnahpur" but the MQM had denied the plan and said it was a conspiracy to defame Mohajirs. Mr Hussain said the ISI from the very beginning had been accusing him as an agent of RAW, a charge he denied vehemently. The MQM chief regretted that despite all his assurances to the army and other authorities that neither he nor the MQM, nor Mohajirs were anti-Pakistani, they were being persistently pushed against the wall. Asked whether he was close to declaring unilateral declaration of independence, the MQM Chief said "Khuda Karey" (may God help in doing so). The MQM chief, who told the Pakistani establishment to take his today's statement as a "bugle" of war, said he was not anti- Pakistani and wanted to remain in Pakistan. SINDHI-MOHAJIR UNITY: Meanwhile the MQM chief in an open letter, said Sindh had virtually become a colony of Punjab, and that the Sindhis had been denied their rights. Addressing the people of Sindh, he asked them to give serious consideration to his letter, in which he posed the question: "Have the common Sindhis of the province of Sindh got freedom after the creation of Pakistan? "

We knew that is his eventual aim........disemberment of Pakistan(God Forbid )He is an Indian agent.This is the problem,all those murderers,looters and Mulk dushman Annasir are at the helm with complete state resources at their disposal and they are playing
havoc with the Country.
 

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
"only" MQM is the terrorist organization...

At least they care for the city they belong to...

Well, they were the only one in the past, but after looking at their behavior and their control of Karachi through arms, other parties have organised themselves on the same line. Therefore, MQM is not only responsible for the terror and crimes but it is also responsible for spreading the violence.

They care for their city? How by killing everyone? I don't know what kind of thinking you got, and how can you even contemplate to support or justify the violence of MQM, is beyond me.
 

Salik

Senator (1k+ posts)
Well, they were the only one in the past, but after looking at their behavior and their control of Karachi through arms, other parties have organised themselves on the same line. Therefore, MQM is not only responsible for the terror and crimes but it is also responsible for spreading the violence.

They care for their city? How by killing everyone? I don't know what kind of thinking you got, and how can you even contemplate to support or justify the violence of MQM, is beyond me.

Unfortunately the عينك of your bias against MQM wont let you see the facts...for instance.... the history of violence of Jama'at Islami bred organization called "Islami" Jamiat Tulaba dates long back even the birth of MQM.....

You have to live in Karachi and then compare it to Larkana or Sukker to know what caring means...

And rest of the things I mentioned... You also conveniently excluded from quote :)...

"only" MQM is the terrorist organization...

At least they care for the city they belong to...

Why?? Because you like the truth which suits you....

چلیں آپ نے یہ تو مانا كہ باقی بھی كچھ نہ كچھ كر رہے ہیں۔۔۔ ورنہ اكثر تو لوگ یہ تصور كرتے ہیں كہ باقی لوگ پھولوں كے ہار بانٹتے پھرتے ہیں۔۔۔

I am totally not in a mood to argue these days.... So that s all from me... :)
 

elipst

Minister (2k+ posts)
Did we need the revelation of wikileaks to know that the MQM is the number one terrorist party in the Karachi, and they are the ones who are responsible for all the target killing, crimes, kidnappings, street crimes, and all the bad things happening to the people of Karachi?
We, the people of Sindh and especially Karachi very well know that MQM has the armed gangs of thugs in every area. These armed gangs are involved in all kinds of crimes, and they send all the earnings to the London, and it also gets distributed in buying the people in police and establishment.

Convenient to blame MQM for everything that goes on in Karachi without knowing what is what. It is the easier way out of any argument, no one tries to understand the root cause of the unrest in Karachi.

We the people of of Karachi know who does what and who is responsible. We know MQM is the only party of the city who cares for the city and the people who live in it.

Every other party is just after their own narrow minded interests. Karachi is like an egg laying goose for them. Its only good as long as it keeps their pockets full. They dont care about it. They live here and earn here but still they dont call it home... Even if they are born here they still call their obscure village or town home. Only MQM calls Karachi home and does something for it.

Frankly we are tired of people considering the party we vote for and who cares for us as terrorists.

Only Karachiites can get rid of themselves from the MQM terrorism. Police is corrupt and MQM has managed to recruit its men in it, and establishment considers MQM its tool to carry on political shenanigans. So its now just the people versus MQM.

Yes people in Karachi need to unite but against the gangsters who form the core of the Lyari gangsters and who scare me. MQM doesnt, it never has. We need to unite against the network of banned sectarian and terrorist organisation who are very much active in Karachi. They are everywhere, recruiting, collecting, criminalizing, stealing, planning, they scare me as well. No one talks of them, no one expect MQM.
 

elipst

Minister (2k+ posts)
We knew that is his eventual aim........disemberment of Pakistan(God Forbid )He is an Indian agent.This is the problem,all those murderers,looters and Mulk dushman Annasir are at the helm with complete state resources at their disposal and they are playing
havoc with the Country.

Absolutely ridiculous. I dont expect intelligent people to start agreeing to this. You may not realise it but people living in Karachi love Pakistan too. It is inconceivable to us to support any party who wants to break it up. You think for one moment if that was the case with MQM we would still be supporting it?
 

canadian

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Absolutely ridiculous. I dont expect intelligent people to start agreeing to this. You may not realise it but people living in Karachi love Pakistan too. It is inconceivable to us to support any party who wants to break it up. You think for one moment if that was the case with MQM we would still be supporting it?

By the time you realise that it will be too late.If you knowingly keep your eyes closed to what's happening there then you are a part of the problem.
 

fido82

Senator (1k+ posts)
No matter MQM terrorist , No matter MQM bhutta khor , People of Karachi will keep voting them. Jalo jalo tappo tappo....
 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
We .. the people of Sind and elsewhere conveniently forget how the feudals in the Interior of Sind maintain their private jails, treat their Haris like some subhuman species... We conveniently forget .... Why Karachi is far ahead than Sukker, Larkana, Dadu, Thatta, Nawabshah... and why the rest of the cities (excluding Hyderabad) are still in the stone age... Why the poor from these cities have to travel to Karachi to get treatment... no education, no health facilities, no roads, nothing... and still... "only" MQM is the terrorist organization...

At least they care for the city they belong to...

A better logical response was expected of you Bro
You are justifying MQM Gangsters because of Sindhi waidairas but does any wadaira have a jail in Sindh.

You stated that you don't support AH as leader but like the policies of MQM and today you are yourself putting a question mark to that philosophy by justifying vast amount of ammunition held by MQM as per Wikileaks...

Waidara Jails, ill treatment of people in interior Sindh is no way a justification of MQM ills..
 

Salik

Senator (1k+ posts)
A better logical response was expected of you Bro
You are justifying MQM Gangsters because of Sindhi waidairas but does any wadaira have a jail in Sindh.

You stated that you don't support AH as leader but like the policies of MQM and today you are yourself putting a question mark to that philosophy by justifying vast amount of ammunition held by MQM as per Wikileaks...

Waidara Jails, ill treatment of people in interior Sindh is no way a justification of MQM ills..

No Sir... i am not justifying... I have never justified... I have always and will keep opposing something you can label.. "singling out MQM" ... which creates a sense of pushing them to wall... that is dangerous... If they are terrorizing Karachi... so are the others... and it is not being done only in Karachi... it is happening everywhere... though there is a very clear difference between MQM and others...MQM develops infrastructure... which helps everyone..and makes everyone's life easier.... without any discrimination .....and they are probably free from the financial corruption...

باقی آپ میرے نقطہ نظر سے واقف ہی ہیں۔۔۔۔
:)

You are justifying MQM Gangsters because of Sindhi waidairas but does any wadaira have a jail in Sindh.

Some research needed my dear... countless...
 
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GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
No Sir... i am not justifying... I have never justified... I have always and will keep opposing something you can label.. "singling out MQM" ... which creates a sense of pushing them to wall... that is dangerous... If they are terrorizing Karachi... so are the others... and it is not being done only in Karachi... it is happening everywhere... though there is a very clear difference between MQM and others...MQM develops infrastructure... which helps everyone..and makes everyone's life easier.... without any discrimination .....and they are probably free from the financial corruption...

باقی آپ میرے نقطہ نظر سے واقف ہی ہیں۔۔۔۔
:)



Some research needed my dear... countless...

Sorry I meant to say, Does any Waidaira have a jail in Karachi..
 

Ammad Hafeez

Minister (2k+ posts)
Bhatta is mostly used for buying arms.. both , MQM and ANP....

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Here is the video,
which mentioned in above RED UNDERLINE.


 

Ammad Hafeez

Minister (2k+ posts)
NEW MUKTI BHANI :

LONDON, Jan 27: Muttahida Qaumi Movement appears close to declaring unilateral declaration of independence as its chief Altaf Hussain on Thursday sounded, what he termed, "bugle" of war by warning the establishment that if killings of Mohajirs are not stopped he will have no other option but to launch an armed struggle and seek support from a neighbouring country. Talking to Pakistani reporters at MQM's international secretariat at Colindale area of London after its formal inauguration, the MQM chief said that he had tried every method while remaining within the four walls of the Constitution but the "Punjabi establishment" has refused to accept Mohajirs and the mandate given to the MQM by the people. "We are termed anti-Pakistani, agents of (Indian intelligence agency) RAW, and anti-state," he said while referring to the oft- repeated charges levelled by the intelligence agencies against his organization. A few years ago the ISI had claimed to have unearthed MQM's plan of creating "Jinnahpur" but the MQM had denied the plan and said it was a conspiracy to defame Mohajirs. Mr Hussain said the ISI from the very beginning had been accusing him as an agent of RAW, a charge he denied vehemently. The MQM chief regretted that despite all his assurances to the army and other authorities that neither he nor the MQM, nor Mohajirs were anti-Pakistani, they were being persistently pushed against the wall. Asked whether he was close to declaring unilateral declaration of independence, the MQM Chief said "Khuda Karey" (may God help in doing so). The MQM chief, who told the Pakistani establishment to take his today's statement as a "bugle" of war, said he was not anti- Pakistani and wanted to remain in Pakistan. SINDHI-MOHAJIR UNITY: Meanwhile the MQM chief in an open letter, said Sindh had virtually become a colony of Punjab, and that the Sindhis had been denied their rights. Addressing the people of Sindh, he asked them to give serious consideration to his letter, in which he posed the question: "Have the common Sindhis of the province of Sindh got freedom after the creation of Pakistan? "

Is it written by KAZZAB ZAID ZAMAN HAMID?? :P
Source??
 

Ammad Hafeez

Minister (2k+ posts)
MQM Loathing is Not Without Reason

By Salman Mugsi • May 26th, 2011 •
Did we need the revelation of wikileaks to know that the MQM is the number one terrorist party in the Karachi, and they are the ones who are responsible for all the target killing, crimes, kidnappings, street crimes, and all the bad things happening to the people of Karachi?
We, the people of Sindh and especially Karachi very well know that MQM has the armed gangs of thugs in every area. These armed gangs are involved in all kinds of crimes, and they send all the “earnings” to the London, and it also gets distributed in buying the people in police and establishment.
One of the biggest crime of Musharraf is that he distributed massive amount of arms among the MQM. Containers were brought to the shores of Karachi full of automatic weapons and MQM has enough stack of them now, which is being used upon the people of Karachi at every hour.
Only Karachiites can get rid of themselves from the MQM terrorism. Police is corrupt and MQM has managed to recruit its men in it, and establishment considers MQM its tool to carry on political shenanigans. So its now just the people versus MQM.

(http://www.pkhope.com/mqm-loathing-is-not-without-reason/)

How much credibility of this post. LOL, Any ANTI-MQMer operates this site.
 

Ammad Hafeez

Minister (2k+ posts)
A better logical response was expected of you Bro
You are justifying MQM Gangsters because of Sindhi waidairas but does any wadaira have a jail in Sindh.

You stated that you don't support AH as leader but like the policies of MQM and today you are yourself putting a question mark to that philosophy by justifying vast amount of ammunition held by MQM as per Wikileaks...

Waidara Jails, ill treatment of people in interior Sindh is no way a justification of MQM ills..

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I've noticed some points which are annoying me alot and I would like to share with you..

1) Cable directly hitting the credibility of Karachi Police, Cable said, Police is the biggest arm gang in Karachi.

2) Then, Cable said all contents are written on the statement of Karachi Police those are called ‘ARM GANG’ in this cable.

3) Now, Cable said, Karachi Police (ARM GANG by the WIKI-Leaks) estimate the quantities of so called Arm groups of Karachi. On the report of an ARM GANG (Police) MQM (Muthaida Qoumi Movement) has ten thousands arms active members?? Is it not annoying you?? Above, Cable said ‘POLICE IS THE BIGGEST ARM GANG’ after all they published cables on the statement of this ARM GANG (Police).

4) Then, Cable labelled MQM as an ethnic based political party which represents only ‘MUHAJIRS’. This cable is written in 2009 and in this era ‘MQM (Muthaida Qoumi Movement present in the AZAD-KASHMIR, MQM elected personalities were there and then MQM went for the GENERAL ELECTION in Gilgit Baltistan and there MQM got the success. MQM was busy in the organizing the MEGA convention in PUNJAB and then open a new door in the politics of Pakistan


I observed these points and these points mark the doubt on the credibility of WIKI-LEAKS cable. Hope, reader try to understand the credibility of this cable that ‘FIRST it’s called Karachi Police as ARMED GANG then quote the statement of this ARM GANG (Police) commenting on Political party.

Opps (thumbsdown) :lol::lol:
 

elipst

Minister (2k+ posts)
By the time you realise that it will be too late.If you knowingly keep your eyes closed to what's happening there then you are a part of the problem.

You cannot keep such things hidden. If this was the agenda of MQM it would have come out, no question about it. Whether you believe it or not, there are honest, God fearing people in MQM who love Pakistan as much as you and me. This was propaganda done by the agencies when they launched an operation on MQM. In all my years of association with MQM I have never seen or heard anything to substantiate that claim. If this was the case it would only take me and thousands of others two seconds to stop supporting it.

YOu are a smart, intelligent person, you should not be saying these things